Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 07:01:36 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

So you don't invest either? I hope you folks like cat food.

No, and I have no money worries.

Where does your money come from?

SS, savings, and more "savings" from a pension I took as a lump sum.
Before you start yakking about the stock market, why don't you ask if my
electronics gear is all Made in the U.S.A.
I already know Wall Street is a bacteria that infects most everything.
I already know I have paltry returns keeping everything in cash.
But I never traded a stock in my life.
Never wanted to, not a bit.
Never took equity from a house, and paid my mortgages off well ahead of
schedule.
Never loved counting money. Just made sure I had enough to get by.
As I said before, the pension money is pure gravy.
Never counted on it, and can do fine without it.
I could do okay with just the SS, but would have to adjust some.
The excitement would probably add some years to my life.

High salaries, defined benefit pensions, and born a boomer.
I look at it all as mostly luck, with a good pinch of frugality.
Too bad most in the following generations won't pour that gravy.
Many public sector workers are the big exception.
Of course they're unionized. Nice pension plans.
Unions keeping Wall Street flush. Seems odd.
Unions rooting for Wall Street, and Wall Street rooting for unions.
Wonder how that will all pan out.
Kinda like the news media pumping the fools up for Black Friday
hysteria, then decrying the results.

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:59:10 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/11/2011 5:26 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:38:19 -0700,
wrote:


65% of Canada has none to low (red). No mistake why I live in Alberta.

Coincidentally or not, the red provinces are also the largest,
liberal-socialist types.

i'm willing to bet alberta has socialized medicine

so he lives in a socialist state while complaining about free market
america being a socialist state

hypocrite

You should come up here and try it. But I don't think you can get in on
welfare and with a criminal record.

gee. you should try to get medical care in the US withut insurance

ever try it?


--------------------------------------------------
Just show up at the emergency room. If you have a MediCal (welfare ) card,
you go to a doctors office. Not all doctors take MediCal but a large bunch
do.
How about facts from the State of California Government.
http://www.fixourhealthcare.ca.gov/i...cts/more/6771/

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:59:42 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:33:45 -0800 (PST), North Star
wrote:
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Good Lord... does that cover both Federal and State income taxes?

That is just Federal and Florida doesn't have state income taxes.

I did run the same $100,000 against the Ontario tax web site
calculator and it was scary.

There is a "payroll" tax on wages but Obama cut that to about 5%.
(plus the employer side of 7%.)


guess he's unaware that in the US we pay for our health insurance
either by payroll deductions or when our employer pays it

not too bright, these right wingers


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Not too bright are you Bob. Lots of people pay their own medical insurance.
Those on COBRA, HIPPA, and those with assets they want to keep if they get
sick. They buy a high deductible policy. $2k out of pocket before
insurance kicks in. Lowers the premiums big time. You want cradle to grave
care, that pays for anything you desire. Let the others pay is your creed.
You want those elective surgeries covered etc.

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 16:29:03 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 13:51:34 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 12:23:18 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 09:50:24 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

and you might want to read what a CONSERVATIVE NOBEL PRIZE WINNER
says:

you right wing socialists dont care.

You spread a lot of bull****, but you've still got two questions you're unable to answer.

1. Uh, how many people have jobs?


not enough AND we dont have enough TAX revenue because we keep cutting
taxes on the RICH

That's another dodge. "Not enough"...what the hell is that supposed to mean?

typical right wing True Believer in the wall street cult

FIRST he says cutting taxes on the rich CREATES jobs

THEN he says CREATING jobs means LOSING jobs since unemployment has
INCREASED since we cut taxes on the rich

THEN he says unemployment DOESNT EVEN EXIST!!

isn't it amazing! right wing smoke and mirrors...along with disregard
for the middle class who've lost jobs



2."If you destroy all of the corporations, where will those jobs come from?"

what jobs? you keep telling me we have so many jobs because of the tax
cuts on the rich

The jobs shown below. What happens if you destroy the corporations, de plume?

gee. we have MILLIONS FEWER jobs than we did BEFORE the tax cuts

what's your cure for a hemorrhage? bleeding the victim?


where are they?

WHERE ARE THE JOBS

See below.

WHERE ARE THE JOBS??

you have CONFUSED A CHANGE in jobs with the jobs themselves

we scientists take CALCULUS...which is the math of CHANGE.

you see...if you say A causes a change in B

then you damn well better be able to MEASURE that

right wingers dont. they simply dont give a rat's ass about the middle
class. THIS moron says an INCREASE in unemployment is UNIMPORTANT
because there are still jobs

if we lose 20 MILLION more jobs, he'll STILL say that's
unimportant...or 50 million jobs

as long as we cut taxes for the rich

WHERE ARE THE JOBS???


talk about dodging a question!

No, you've dodged the same questions repeatedly. As of May, 2010, there were approximately
127,097,160 persons employed in this country. They were employed in the following occupations, with
mean hourly, mean annual, and median hourly wages as shown.

WHERE ARE THE JOBS??? cutting taxes, the right says, INCREASES the
number of jobs. instead they DECREASED

only a right wring True Believer in the wall street cult would call a
DECREASE an INCREASE!!

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:38:21 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:59:10 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:


You should come up here and try it. But I don't think you can get in on
welfare and with a criminal record.

gee. you should try to get medical care in the US withut insurance

ever try it?


--------------------------------------------------
Just show up at the emergency room. If you have a MediCal (welfare ) card,
you go to a doctors office. Not all doctors take MediCal but a large bunch
do.
How about facts from the State of California Government.
http://www.fixourhealthcare.ca.gov/i...cts/more/6771/

i'm an EMT. we take lots of cancer and heart patients to the ED.
unfortunately this is because they couldnt get medical care so a
treatable problem turned into an expensive emergency

if they survived at all.

so you're wrong

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:41:47 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:59:42 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:33:45 -0800 (PST), North Star
wrote:
quoted text -

There is a "payroll" tax on wages but Obama cut that to about 5%.
(plus the employer side of 7%.)


guess he's unaware that in the US we pay for our health insurance
either by payroll deductions or when our employer pays it

not too bright, these right wingers


-----------------------------------------------------------------
Not too bright are you Bob. Lots of people pay their own medical insurance.

gee. ever tried to price it yourself?

Those on COBRA, HIPPA, and those with assets they want to keep if they get
sick. They buy a high deductible policy.

a few years ago when the company i worked for went bankrupt, i had
COBRA.

$1200 per month..on unemployment

kinda stupid arent you? you think an unemployed person has SO much
money they can afford this

but, then, right wingers just arent smart at all


$2k out of pocket before
insurance kicks in. Lowers the premiums big time. You want cradle to grave
care, that pays for anything you desire. Let the others pay is your creed.
You want those elective surgeries covered etc.

and **** the middle class is yours. as long as the rich are cared for,
you dont give a **** what happens to the people who build this country

the right wing...hates america

loves the rich

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:41:47 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

Those on COBRA, HIPPA, and those with assets they want to keep if they get
sick. They buy a high deductible policy.

a few years ago when the company i worked for went bankrupt, i had
COBRA.

$1200 per month..on unemployment

kinda stupid arent you? you think an unemployed person has SO much
money they can afford this


He's just behind the times.
And on Medicare.
Since he gets basically free socialist health care, he doesn't know
the current cost of private market health care.
Closet socialists usually have a lot of blind spots.
And he's a boomer, so he got a lot of gravy.

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:41:47 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:59:42 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:33:45 -0800 (PST), North Star
wrote:
quoted text -

There is a "payroll" tax on wages but Obama cut that to about 5%.
(plus the employer side of 7%.)


guess he's unaware that in the US we pay for our health insurance
either by payroll deductions or when our employer pays it

not too bright, these right wingers


-----------------------------------------------------------------
Not too bright are you Bob. Lots of people pay their own medical
insurance.

gee. ever tried to price it yourself?

Those on COBRA, HIPPA, and those with assets they want to keep if they get
sick. They buy a high deductible policy.

a few years ago when the company i worked for went bankrupt, i had
COBRA.

$1200 per month..on unemployment

kinda stupid arent you? you think an unemployed person has SO much
money they can afford this

but, then, right wingers just arent smart at all


$2k out of pocket before
insurance kicks in. Lowers the premiums big time. You want cradle to
grave
care, that pays for anything you desire. Let the others pay is your creed.
You want those elective surgeries covered etc.

and **** the middle class is yours. as long as the rich are cared for,
you dont give a **** what happens to the people who build this country

the right wing...hates america

loves the rich


-------------------------------------------------------
Yup, I paid out of pocket when I got laid off. Until I got another job, or
created another career. You needed to save 30% of your money while working.
Not the IRA stuff, but everyday savings. And you have a working,
professional wife. Go on her insurance. Maybe you should have bought less
boat, so you did not have a $400 a month berthing fee, then you could afford
insurance.

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:41:47 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

Those on COBRA, HIPPA, and those with assets they want to keep if they
get
sick. They buy a high deductible policy.

a few years ago when the company i worked for went bankrupt, i had
COBRA.

$1200 per month..on unemployment

kinda stupid arent you? you think an unemployed person has SO much
money they can afford this


He's just behind the times.
And on Medicare.
Since he gets basically free socialist health care, he doesn't know
the current cost of private market health care.
Closet socialists usually have a lot of blind spots.
And he's a boomer, so he got a lot of gravy.


-------------------------------------------------------------
I know what insurance costs. I have been an employer as well as laid off
over the years. I lived below my means, which gave me a cushion when a job
went away. I worked for a few startups, so closing the doors and no COBRA
available was not that unusual. Sure I am on Medicare now. But that is
only for 2.5 years. I have been retired for 9 years, so for 6.5 years, I
paid my own insurance.

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:38:21 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:59:10 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:


You should come up here and try it. But I don't think you can get in on
welfare and with a criminal record.

gee. you should try to get medical care in the US withut insurance

ever try it?


--------------------------------------------------
Just show up at the emergency room. If you have a MediCal (welfare ) card,
you go to a doctors office. Not all doctors take MediCal but a large bunch
do.
How about facts from the State of California Government.
http://www.fixourhealthcare.ca.gov/i...cts/more/6771/

i'm an EMT. we take lots of cancer and heart patients to the ED.
unfortunately this is because they couldnt get medical care so a
treatable problem turned into an expensive emergency

if they survived at all.

so you're wrong


-----------------------------------------------------
I guess the state of California is wrong. Their statement no mine. And if
you have no assets, you go on welfare. You are probably taking heart and
cancer people to emergency for emergency reasons. Not for normal care.

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:41:51 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .

gee. you should try to get medical care in the US withut insurance

ever try it?


--------------------------------------------------
Just show up at the emergency room. If you have a MediCal (welfare ) card,
you go to a doctors office. Not all doctors take MediCal but a large bunch
do.
How about facts from the State of California Government.
http://www.fixourhealthcare.ca.gov/i...cts/more/6771/

i'm an EMT. we take lots of cancer and heart patients to the ED.
unfortunately this is because they couldnt get medical care so a
treatable problem turned into an expensive emergency

if they survived at all.

so you're wrong


-----------------------------------------------------
I guess the state of California is wrong. Their statement no mine. And if
you have no assets, you go on welfare. You are probably taking heart and
cancer people to emergency for emergency reasons. Not for normal care.

no, you dont 'go on welfare'. if you are unemployed you dont get ****.
you die.

and you seem not to understand that routine illnesses, left
unattended, often become emergencies...sometimes fatal

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

On 11/27/11 5:24 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:41:51 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

gee. you should try to get medical care in the US withut insurance

ever try it?


--------------------------------------------------
Just show up at the emergency room. If you have a MediCal (welfare ) card,
you go to a doctors office. Not all doctors take MediCal but a large bunch
do.
How about facts from the State of California Government.
http://www.fixourhealthcare.ca.gov/i...cts/more/6771/

i'm an EMT. we take lots of cancer and heart patients to the ED.
unfortunately this is because they couldnt get medical care so a
treatable problem turned into an expensive emergency

if they survived at all.

so you're wrong


-----------------------------------------------------
I guess the state of California is wrong. Their statement no mine. And if
you have no assets, you go on welfare. You are probably taking heart and
cancer people to emergency for emergency reasons. Not for normal care.

no, you dont 'go on welfare'. if you are unemployed you dont get ****.
you die.

and you seem not to understand that routine illnesses, left
unattended, often become emergencies...sometimes fatal



There's a myth perpetuated by the right that the gravely ill without
money or health insurance get good treatment by showing up at the ER.
That claim is just plain bull****. All they get, if they get treated at
all, is short term stabilization.

--
http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:39:48 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:41:47 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

Those on COBRA, HIPPA, and those with assets they want to keep if they
get
sick. They buy a high deductible policy.

a few years ago when the company i worked for went bankrupt, i had
COBRA.

$1200 per month..on unemployment

kinda stupid arent you? you think an unemployed person has SO much
money they can afford this


He's just behind the times.
And on Medicare.
Since he gets basically free socialist health care, he doesn't know
the current cost of private market health care.
Closet socialists usually have a lot of blind spots.
And he's a boomer, so he got a lot of gravy.


-------------------------------------------------------------
I know what insurance costs. I have been an employer as well as laid off
over the years. I lived below my means, which gave me a cushion when a job
went away.

a cushion! that's so quaint!

let's see...medical care for an ALS ambulance ride to the hospital
STARTS at $1500, not including meds, O2, any interventions the EMT's
or paramedics do, etc.

THEN you get to the ER where the real fun starts. thousands of dollars
in a few hours

what kind of 'cushion' do people have when they havent had a pay raise
in 20 years?


I worked for a few startups, so closing the doors and no COBRA
available was not that unusual. Sure I am on Medicare now. But that is
only for 2.5 years. I have been retired for 9 years, so for 6.5 years, I
paid my own insurance.

so you're on socialized medicine.

figures

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

On 11/27/2011 5:26 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/27/11 5:24 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:41:51 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

gee. you should try to get medical care in the US withut insurance

ever try it?


--------------------------------------------------
Just show up at the emergency room. If you have a MediCal (welfare )
card,
you go to a doctors office. Not all doctors take MediCal but a large
bunch
do.
How about facts from the State of California Government.
http://www.fixourhealthcare.ca.gov/i...cts/more/6771/

i'm an EMT. we take lots of cancer and heart patients to the ED.
unfortunately this is because they couldnt get medical care so a
treatable problem turned into an expensive emergency

if they survived at all.

so you're wrong


-----------------------------------------------------
I guess the state of California is wrong. Their statement no mine.
And if
you have no assets, you go on welfare. You are probably taking heart and
cancer people to emergency for emergency reasons. Not for normal care.

no, you dont 'go on welfare'. if you are unemployed you dont get ****.
you die.

and you seem not to understand that routine illnesses, left
unattended, often become emergencies...sometimes fatal



There's a myth perpetuated by the right that the gravely ill without
money or health insurance get good treatment by showing up at the ER.
That claim is just plain bull****. All they get, if they get treated at
all, is short term stabilization.


Might be true in bomfoch Maryland but not here. I have veeery reliable
sources.

--
1-20-13 The end of an error

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 17:26:37 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/27/11 5:24 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:41:51 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

gee. you should try to get medical care in the US withut insurance

ever try it?

no, you dont 'go on welfare'. if you are unemployed you dont get ****.
you die.

and you seem not to understand that routine illnesses, left
unattended, often become emergencies...sometimes fatal



There's a myth perpetuated by the right that the gravely ill without
money or health insurance get good treatment by showing up at the ER.
That claim is just plain bull****. All they get, if they get treated at
all, is short term stabilization.


exactly right. we often transport the same people over a period of a
few weeks or even days because of untreatrd problems that were
stablized in the ED

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 17:26:47 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:39:48 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:41:47 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

Those on COBRA, HIPPA, and those with assets they want to keep if they
get
sick. They buy a high deductible policy.

a few years ago when the company i worked for went bankrupt, i had
COBRA.

$1200 per month..on unemployment

kinda stupid arent you? you think an unemployed person has SO much
money they can afford this


He's just behind the times.
And on Medicare.
Since he gets basically free socialist health care, he doesn't know
the current cost of private market health care.
Closet socialists usually have a lot of blind spots.
And he's a boomer, so he got a lot of gravy.


-------------------------------------------------------------
I know what insurance costs. I have been an employer as well as laid off
over the years. I lived below my means, which gave me a cushion when a job
went away.

a cushion! that's so quaint!

let's see...medical care for an ALS ambulance ride to the hospital
STARTS at $1500, not including meds, O2, any interventions the EMT's
or paramedics do, etc.

THEN you get to the ER where the real fun starts. thousands of dollars
in a few hours

what kind of 'cushion' do people have when they havent had a pay raise
in 20 years?


I worked for a few startups, so closing the doors and no COBRA
available was not that unusual. Sure I am on Medicare now. But that is
only for 2.5 years. I have been retired for 9 years, so for 6.5 years, I
paid my own insurance.

so you're on socialized medicine.

figures

From your posts here, I can understand why you've not had a pay raise in 20 years of employment.

There was a reason, and it wasn't due to Republicans.

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:39:48 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:41:47 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

Those on COBRA, HIPPA, and those with assets they want to keep if they
get
sick. They buy a high deductible policy.

a few years ago when the company i worked for went bankrupt, i had
COBRA.

$1200 per month..on unemployment

kinda stupid arent you? you think an unemployed person has SO much
money they can afford this


He's just behind the times.
And on Medicare.
Since he gets basically free socialist health care, he doesn't know
the current cost of private market health care.
Closet socialists usually have a lot of blind spots.
And he's a boomer, so he got a lot of gravy.


-------------------------------------------------------------
I know what insurance costs. I have been an employer as well as laid off
over the years. I lived below my means, which gave me a cushion when a job
went away.

a cushion! that's so quaint!

let's see...medical care for an ALS ambulance ride to the hospital
STARTS at $1500, not including meds, O2, any interventions the EMT's
or paramedics do, etc.

THEN you get to the ER where the real fun starts. thousands of dollars
in a few hours

what kind of 'cushion' do people have when they havent had a pay raise
in 20 years?


I worked for a few startups, so closing the doors and no COBRA
available was not that unusual. Sure I am on Medicare now. But that is
only for 2.5 years. I have been retired for 9 years, so for 6.5 years, I
paid my own insurance.

so you're on socialized medicine.

figures


-------------------------------------------------------------------
So buy a $2000 deductible policy. Then you will have $2k out of pocket, and
the insurance will pick up the rest. And $2k deductible will cut your
insurance premium costs a lot.

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:41:51 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .

gee. you should try to get medical care in the US withut insurance

ever try it?


--------------------------------------------------
Just show up at the emergency room. If you have a MediCal (welfare )
card,
you go to a doctors office. Not all doctors take MediCal but a large
bunch
do.
How about facts from the State of California Government.
http://www.fixourhealthcare.ca.gov/i...cts/more/6771/

i'm an EMT. we take lots of cancer and heart patients to the ED.
unfortunately this is because they couldnt get medical care so a
treatable problem turned into an expensive emergency

if they survived at all.

so you're wrong


-----------------------------------------------------
I guess the state of California is wrong. Their statement no mine. And if
you have no assets, you go on welfare. You are probably taking heart and
cancer people to emergency for emergency reasons. Not for normal care.

no, you dont 'go on welfare'. if you are unemployed you dont get ****.
you die.

and you seem not to understand that routine illnesses, left
unattended, often become emergencies...sometimes fatal


--------------------------------------------------

So if you have assets they will take them and then you go on welfare. Why
should you get to keep your assets when the public is paying the doctor?
After you lose your job and spent all your money berthing a boat instead of
buying insurance.

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

On 11/28/11 2:12 PM, Califbill wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:39:48 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:41:47 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

Those on COBRA, HIPPA, and those with assets they want to keep if they
get
sick. They buy a high deductible policy.

a few years ago when the company i worked for went bankrupt, i had
COBRA.

$1200 per month..on unemployment

kinda stupid arent you? you think an unemployed person has SO much
money they can afford this


He's just behind the times.
And on Medicare.
Since he gets basically free socialist health care, he doesn't know
the current cost of private market health care.
Closet socialists usually have a lot of blind spots.
And he's a boomer, so he got a lot of gravy.


-------------------------------------------------------------
I know what insurance costs. I have been an employer as well as laid off
over the years. I lived below my means, which gave me a cushion when a
job
went away.

a cushion! that's so quaint!

let's see...medical care for an ALS ambulance ride to the hospital
STARTS at $1500, not including meds, O2, any interventions the EMT's
or paramedics do, etc.

THEN you get to the ER where the real fun starts. thousands of dollars
in a few hours

what kind of 'cushion' do people have when they havent had a pay raise
in 20 years?


I worked for a few startups, so closing the doors and no COBRA
available was not that unusual. Sure I am on Medicare now. But that is
only for 2.5 years. I have been retired for 9 years, so for 6.5 years, I
paid my own insurance.

so you're on socialized medicine.

figures


-------------------------------------------------------------------
So buy a $2000 deductible policy. Then you will have $2k out of pocket,
and the insurance will pick up the rest. And $2k deductible will cut
your insurance premium costs a lot.



Well, some insurance policies may "pick up the rest," and others will
still require the insured to handle co-pays, which may be substantial,
and other medically related expenses, which may also be substantial.

There really are no simple answers for many health care insurance
questions.

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Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:12:32 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .


kinda stupid arent you? you think an unemployed person has SO much
money they can afford this


He's just behind the times.
And on Medicare.
Since he gets basically free socialist health care, he doesn't know
the current cost of private market health care.
Closet socialists usually have a lot of blind spots.
And he's a boomer, so he got a lot of gravy.


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I know what insurance costs. I have been an employer as well as laid off
over the years. I lived below my means, which gave me a cushion when a job
went away.

a cushion! that's so quaint!

let's see...medical care for an ALS ambulance ride to the hospital
STARTS at $1500, not including meds, O2, any interventions the EMT's
or paramedics do, etc.

THEN you get to the ER where the real fun starts. thousands of dollars
in a few hours

what kind of 'cushion' do people have when they havent had a pay raise
in 20 years?


I worked for a few startups, so closing the doors and no COBRA
available was not that unusual. Sure I am on Medicare now. But that is
only for 2.5 years. I have been retired for 9 years, so for 6.5 years, I
paid my own insurance.

so you're on socialized medicine.

figures


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So buy a $2000 deductible policy. Then you will have $2k out of pocket, and
the insurance will pick up the rest. And $2k deductible will cut your
insurance premium costs a lot.

tell you what

go look up average unemployment benefits

look up the cost of health programs with a 2K deductible

get back to me

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:16:48 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .


if they survived at all.

so you're wrong


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I guess the state of California is wrong. Their statement no mine. And if
you have no assets, you go on welfare. You are probably taking heart and
cancer people to emergency for emergency reasons. Not for normal care.

no, you dont 'go on welfare'. if you are unemployed you dont get ****.
you die.

and you seem not to understand that routine illnesses, left
unattended, often become emergencies...sometimes fatal


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So if you have assets they will take them and then you go on welfare. Why
should you get to keep your assets when the public is paying the doctor?
After you lose your job and spent all your money berthing a boat instead of
buying insurance.

let's see.

donald trump, a billionaire, goes bankrupt and sticks his employees
and his creditors, while retaining bliions

joe sixpack goex bankrupt because his employer got wiped out by the
bubble

and he has to go homeless

yeah. that's conservative thinking

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:16:48 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .


if they survived at all.

so you're wrong


-----------------------------------------------------
I guess the state of California is wrong. Their statement no mine. And
if
you have no assets, you go on welfare. You are probably taking heart and
cancer people to emergency for emergency reasons. Not for normal care.

no, you dont 'go on welfare'. if you are unemployed you dont get ****.
you die.

and you seem not to understand that routine illnesses, left
unattended, often become emergencies...sometimes fatal


--------------------------------------------------

So if you have assets they will take them and then you go on welfare. Why
should you get to keep your assets when the public is paying the doctor?
After you lose your job and spent all your money berthing a boat instead of
buying insurance.

let's see.

donald trump, a billionaire, goes bankrupt and sticks his employees
and his creditors, while retaining bliions

joe sixpack goex bankrupt because his employer got wiped out by the
bubble

and he has to go homeless

yeah. that's conservative thinking


--------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have a friend who knows The Donald. He says he is probably only worth a
few million. Mostly he is a front for others. Owe enough and the bank can
not foreclose. Same reason they have not foreclosed on a lot of houses.
They would be under capitalized.

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:12:32 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .


kinda stupid arent you? you think an unemployed person has SO much
money they can afford this


He's just behind the times.
And on Medicare.
Since he gets basically free socialist health care, he doesn't know
the current cost of private market health care.
Closet socialists usually have a lot of blind spots.
And he's a boomer, so he got a lot of gravy.


-------------------------------------------------------------
I know what insurance costs. I have been an employer as well as laid off
over the years. I lived below my means, which gave me a cushion when a
job
went away.

a cushion! that's so quaint!

let's see...medical care for an ALS ambulance ride to the hospital
STARTS at $1500, not including meds, O2, any interventions the EMT's
or paramedics do, etc.

THEN you get to the ER where the real fun starts. thousands of dollars
in a few hours

what kind of 'cushion' do people have when they havent had a pay raise
in 20 years?


I worked for a few startups, so closing the doors and no COBRA
available was not that unusual. Sure I am on Medicare now. But that is
only for 2.5 years. I have been retired for 9 years, so for 6.5 years, I
paid my own insurance.

so you're on socialized medicine.

figures


-------------------------------------------------------------------
So buy a $2000 deductible policy. Then you will have $2k out of pocket,
and
the insurance will pick up the rest. And $2k deductible will cut your
insurance premium costs a lot.

tell you what

go look up average unemployment benefits

look up the cost of health programs with a 2K deductible

get back to me


-----------------------------------------------------
about $500 a week bennies. You should have saved a years cushion like
financial planners state. You are at least 50 years old, with a former high
paying job. Why didn’t you save for a rainy day?

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:29:50 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .

I worked for a few startups, so closing the doors and no COBRA
available was not that unusual. Sure I am on Medicare now. But that is
only for 2.5 years. I have been retired for 9 years, so for 6.5 years, I
paid my own insurance.

so you're on socialized medicine.

figures


-------------------------------------------------------------------
So buy a $2000 deductible policy. Then you will have $2k out of pocket,
and
the insurance will pick up the rest. And $2k deductible will cut your
insurance premium costs a lot.

tell you what

go look up average unemployment benefits

look up the cost of health programs with a 2K deductible

get back to me


-----------------------------------------------------
about $500 a week bennies. You should have saved a years cushion like
financial planners state. You are at least 50 years old, with a former high
paying job. Why didn’t you save for a rainy day?

ah. saved a cushion. no one knows what that means and when i was
unemployed i DID have a cusion.

like i said you dont know what the hell you're talking about.

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:27:52 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .

and you seem not to understand that routine illnesses, left
unattended, often become emergencies...sometimes fatal


--------------------------------------------------

So if you have assets they will take them and then you go on welfare. Why
should you get to keep your assets when the public is paying the doctor?
After you lose your job and spent all your money berthing a boat instead of
buying insurance.

let's see.

donald trump, a billionaire, goes bankrupt and sticks his employees
and his creditors, while retaining bliions

joe sixpack goex bankrupt because his employer got wiped out by the
bubble

and he has to go homeless

yeah. that's conservative thinking


--------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have a friend who knows The Donald. He says he is probably only worth a
few million. Mostly he is a front for others. Owe enough and the bank can
not foreclose. Same reason they have not foreclosed on a lot of houses.
They would be under capitalized.

breaks my heart...only a few million...

yep...banks will not foreclose. as keynes said 'if you owe the bank a
thousand, you have a problem...if you owe them a million, they have a
problem'

another example of how the wealthy skate by...

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:29:50 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .

I worked for a few startups, so closing the doors and no COBRA
available was not that unusual. Sure I am on Medicare now. But that is
only for 2.5 years. I have been retired for 9 years, so for 6.5 years, I
paid my own insurance.

so you're on socialized medicine.

figures


-------------------------------------------------------------------
So buy a $2000 deductible policy. Then you will have $2k out of pocket,
and
the insurance will pick up the rest. And $2k deductible will cut your
insurance premium costs a lot.

tell you what

go look up average unemployment benefits

look up the cost of health programs with a 2K deductible

get back to me


-----------------------------------------------------
about $500 a week bennies. You should have saved a years cushion like
financial planners state. You are at least 50 years old, with a former
high
paying job. Why didn’t you save for a rainy day?

ah. saved a cushion. no one knows what that means and when i was
unemployed i DID have a cusion.

like i said you dont know what the hell you're talking about.


------------------------------------------

Like I and others have stated. You are really stupid when it comes to
finance.

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

On 11/30/2011 12:59 PM, Califbill wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message
ah. saved a cushion. no one knows what that means and when i was
unemployed i DID have a cusion.

like i said you dont know what the hell you're talking about.


------------------------------------------

Like I and others have stated. You are really stupid when it comes to
finance.

Which means bob is good democratic material.

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

In article ,
says...

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:29:50 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .

I worked for a few startups, so closing the doors and no COBRA
available was not that unusual. Sure I am on Medicare now. But that is
only for 2.5 years. I have been retired for 9 years, so for 6.5 years, I
paid my own insurance.

so you're on socialized medicine.

figures


-------------------------------------------------------------------
So buy a $2000 deductible policy. Then you will have $2k out of pocket,
and
the insurance will pick up the rest. And $2k deductible will cut your
insurance premium costs a lot.

tell you what

go look up average unemployment benefits

look up the cost of health programs with a 2K deductible

get back to me


-----------------------------------------------------
about $500 a week bennies. You should have saved a years cushion like
financial planners state. You are at least 50 years old, with a former
high
paying job. Why didn?t you save for a rainy day?

ah. saved a cushion. no one knows what that means and when i was
unemployed i DID have a cusion.

like i said you dont know what the hell you're talking about.


------------------------------------------

Like I and others have stated. You are really stupid when it comes to
finance.

Or anything else for that matter. Well, except for being Harry's butt
plug.

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:59:38 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .


-------------------------------------------------------------------
So buy a $2000 deductible policy. Then you will have $2k out of pocket,
and
the insurance will pick up the rest. And $2k deductible will cut your
insurance premium costs a lot.

tell you what

go look up average unemployment benefits

look up the cost of health programs with a 2K deductible

get back to me


-----------------------------------------------------
about $500 a week bennies. You should have saved a years cushion like
financial planners state. You are at least 50 years old, with a former
high
paying job. Why didn’t you save for a rainy day?

ah. saved a cushion. no one knows what that means and when i was
unemployed i DID have a cusion.

like i said you dont know what the hell you're talking about.


------------------------------------------

Like I and others have stated. You are really stupid when it comes to
finance.

says the guy who thinks you can pay a million dollar medical bill

by having a 'cushion'

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 14:02:09 -0500, Ombudsman
wrote:

On 11/30/2011 12:59 PM, Califbill wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message
ah. saved a cushion. no one knows what that means and when i was
unemployed i DID have a cusion.

like i said you dont know what the hell you're talking about.


------------------------------------------

Like I and others have stated. You are really stupid when it comes to
finance.

Which means bob is good democratic material.

this from the guy who claimed obama was president in2008 and his
treasury secretary was hank paulson!!

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 14:33:20 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

"bpuharic" wrote in mess

------------------------------------------

Like I and others have stated. You are really stupid when it comes to
finance.

Or anything else for that matter. Well, except for being Harry's butt
plug.


you another right winger trying to claim obama was president in 2008?

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 14:33:20 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

"bpuharic" wrote in mess

------------------------------------------

Like I and others have stated. You are really stupid when it comes to
finance.

Or anything else for that matter. Well, except for being Harry's butt
plug.


you another right winger trying to claim obama was president in 2008?

Nah, he's a Dem, but obsessed with Krause.
Doesn't have to make any sense.

Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:59:38 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .


-------------------------------------------------------------------
So buy a $2000 deductible policy. Then you will have $2k out of pocket,
and
the insurance will pick up the rest. And $2k deductible will cut your
insurance premium costs a lot.

tell you what

go look up average unemployment benefits

look up the cost of health programs with a 2K deductible

get back to me


-----------------------------------------------------
about $500 a week bennies. You should have saved a years cushion like
financial planners state. You are at least 50 years old, with a former
high
paying job. Why didn’t you save for a rainy day?

ah. saved a cushion. no one knows what that means and when i was
unemployed i DID have a cusion.

like i said you dont know what the hell you're talking about.


------------------------------------------

Like I and others have stated. You are really stupid when it comes to
finance.

says the guy who thinks you can pay a million dollar medical bill

by having a 'cushion'
---------------------------------------------------------------
You can. You can use that cushion to pay for the $2-3k deductible insurance
policy. What I did when I was unemployed.