On 16/11/2011 7:53 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I can buy multiple PCs for the price of one Mac. The PCs run Solaris,
Linux, VirtualBox and Win7 all at once.

And if you mean those under powered little crappy Macs, you get what you
pay for. Plus in Canada, they don't price them fairly, about 30% more
expensive here. So I boycott the idiots.

Granted, BSD UNIX is better, but I run that in a VM.


That you run cheesy PC's is no concern of mine. My work requires a good
word processor, a good email client, good software to prepare
presentations, and web creation and editing suites, and some other
mainstream business software, All of that runs nicely on my iMac and
Macbook Pro.

OpenOffice
Thunderbird
Firefox
GIMP
KompoZer
Wireshark
VirtualBox
PGP and more.


Dozens of others.
--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems as government is
the problem.

On 11/16/11 10:54 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/11/2011 7:53 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I can buy multiple PCs for the price of one Mac. The PCs run Solaris,
Linux, VirtualBox and Win7 all at once.

And if you mean those under powered little crappy Macs, you get what you
pay for. Plus in Canada, they don't price them fairly, about 30% more
expensive here. So I boycott the idiots.

Granted, BSD UNIX is better, but I run that in a VM.


That you run cheesy PC's is no concern of mine. My work requires a good
word processor, a good email client, good software to prepare
presentations, and web creation and editing suites, and some other
mainstream business software, All of that runs nicely on my iMac and
Macbook Pro.

OpenOffice
Thunderbird
Firefox
GIMP
KompoZer
Wireshark
VirtualBox
PGP and more.


Dozens of others.

I can run open office, t'bird, firefox, gimp, PGP, kompozer, and
probably virtual box under VM. So what's your point?

On 11/17/2011 6:10 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 10:54 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/11/2011 7:53 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I can buy multiple PCs for the price of one Mac. The PCs run Solaris,
Linux, VirtualBox and Win7 all at once.

And if you mean those under powered little crappy Macs, you get what
you
pay for. Plus in Canada, they don't price them fairly, about 30% more
expensive here. So I boycott the idiots.

Granted, BSD UNIX is better, but I run that in a VM.


That you run cheesy PC's is no concern of mine. My work requires a good
word processor, a good email client, good software to prepare
presentations, and web creation and editing suites, and some other
mainstream business software, All of that runs nicely on my iMac and
Macbook Pro.

OpenOffice
Thunderbird
Firefox
GIMP
KompoZer
Wireshark
VirtualBox
PGP and more.


Dozens of others.

I can run open office, t'bird, firefox, gimp, PGP, kompozer, and
probably virtual box under VM. So what's your point?

His point is that he isn't stuck with a proprietary, overpriced nintendo...

In article ,
says...

On 11/17/2011 6:10 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 10:54 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/11/2011 7:53 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I can buy multiple PCs for the price of one Mac. The PCs run Solaris,
Linux, VirtualBox and Win7 all at once.

And if you mean those under powered little crappy Macs, you get what
you
pay for. Plus in Canada, they don't price them fairly, about 30% more
expensive here. So I boycott the idiots.

Granted, BSD UNIX is better, but I run that in a VM.


That you run cheesy PC's is no concern of mine. My work requires a good
word processor, a good email client, good software to prepare
presentations, and web creation and editing suites, and some other
mainstream business software, All of that runs nicely on my iMac and
Macbook Pro.

OpenOffice
Thunderbird
Firefox
GIMP
KompoZer
Wireshark
VirtualBox
PGP and more.


Dozens of others.

I can run open office, t'bird, firefox, gimp, PGP, kompozer, and
probably virtual box under VM. So what's your point?

His point is that he isn't stuck with a proprietary, overpriced nintendo...

Bingo, I don't even have iTunes on my PC's. Apple software gets ahold of
your computer and tries to take over. I think Apple products are for
people who can't do things for themselves, thus they like having
software do everything for them.

On 17/11/2011 7:09 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/17/2011 6:10 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 10:54 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/11/2011 7:53 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I can buy multiple PCs for the price of one Mac. The PCs run Solaris,
Linux, VirtualBox and Win7 all at once.

And if you mean those under powered little crappy Macs, you get what
you
pay for. Plus in Canada, they don't price them fairly, about 30% more
expensive here. So I boycott the idiots.

Granted, BSD UNIX is better, but I run that in a VM.


That you run cheesy PC's is no concern of mine. My work requires a good
word processor, a good email client, good software to prepare
presentations, and web creation and editing suites, and some other
mainstream business software, All of that runs nicely on my iMac and
Macbook Pro.

OpenOffice
Thunderbird
Firefox
GIMP
KompoZer
Wireshark
VirtualBox
PGP and more.


Dozens of others.

I can run open office, t'bird, firefox, gimp, PGP, kompozer, and
probably virtual box under VM. So what's your point?

His point is that he isn't stuck with a proprietary, overpriced nintendo...

Bingo, I don't even have iTunes on my PC's. Apple software gets ahold of
your computer and tries to take over. I think Apple products are for
people who can't do things for themselves, thus they like having
software do everything for them.

PCs today on main line equipment is just as good.

It was a problem in the past, 2003 was plug and pray. But I doubt much
Apple equipment circa 2003 is in use any more either. Computers go
obsolete in 3 years, no sense in spending too much on them.

And I too don't load the Apple crap ware for the same reasons.

--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems as government is
the problem.

On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:19:01 -0500, wrote:

If you buy them when they are 3 years old you can get PCs real cheap
or free.

===

Let me know if you'd like a couple of industrial strength, rack
mountable, dual processor Xeon servers. Lots of memory and super
fast. I bought them on the cheap. They work fine but too much fan
noise and heat for in my office.

On 11/17/11 8:42 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/17/2011 6:10 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 10:54 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/11/2011 7:53 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I can buy multiple PCs for the price of one Mac. The PCs run Solaris,
Linux, VirtualBox and Win7 all at once.

And if you mean those under powered little crappy Macs, you get what
you
pay for. Plus in Canada, they don't price them fairly, about 30% more
expensive here. So I boycott the idiots.

Granted, BSD UNIX is better, but I run that in a VM.


That you run cheesy PC's is no concern of mine. My work requires a good
word processor, a good email client, good software to prepare
presentations, and web creation and editing suites, and some other
mainstream business software, All of that runs nicely on my iMac and
Macbook Pro.

OpenOffice
Thunderbird
Firefox
GIMP
KompoZer
Wireshark
VirtualBox
PGP and more.


Dozens of others.

I can run open office, t'bird, firefox, gimp, PGP, kompozer, and
probably virtual box under VM. So what's your point?

His point is that he isn't stuck with a proprietary, overpriced nintendo...


Snerk. I can buy whatever computer tickles my fancy. I switched away
from Windows machines a few years ago. The Apple OS is pretty much Unix
with a candy shell around it. I've programmed a few things, but I'm not
much interested in programming. Never was, though I did learn how to
program in Pascal years ago.

Your comments about Macs are just further evidence of your ignorance. I
simply prefer the Macs these days. Your concept of "overpriced" is just
a reflection of your limited capabilities. The hardware and OS in my
Macs are more than capable of handling my business and personal
computing needs.

On 17/11/2011 8:37 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/17/11 8:42 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/17/2011 6:10 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 10:54 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/11/2011 7:53 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I can buy multiple PCs for the price of one Mac. The PCs run Solaris,
Linux, VirtualBox and Win7 all at once.

And if you mean those under powered little crappy Macs, you get what
you
pay for. Plus in Canada, they don't price them fairly, about 30% more
expensive here. So I boycott the idiots.

Granted, BSD UNIX is better, but I run that in a VM.


That you run cheesy PC's is no concern of mine. My work requires a
good
word processor, a good email client, good software to prepare
presentations, and web creation and editing suites, and some other
mainstream business software, All of that runs nicely on my iMac and
Macbook Pro.

OpenOffice
Thunderbird
Firefox
GIMP
KompoZer
Wireshark
VirtualBox
PGP and more.


Dozens of others.

I can run open office, t'bird, firefox, gimp, PGP, kompozer, and
probably virtual box under VM. So what's your point?

His point is that he isn't stuck with a proprietary, overpriced
nintendo...


Snerk. I can buy whatever computer tickles my fancy. I switched away
from Windows machines a few years ago. The Apple OS is pretty much Unix
with a candy shell around it. I've programmed a few things, but I'm not
much interested in programming. Never was, though I did learn how to
program in Pascal years ago.

You know Pascal is a sissy language for beginners. Probably as far as
you got.

Your comments about Macs are just further evidence of your ignorance. I
simply prefer the Macs these days. Your concept of "overpriced" is just
a reflection of your limited capabilities. The hardware and OS in my
Macs are more than capable of handling my business and personal
computing needs.

Hey, money no object and excluding value for the money, Apple is a good
machine.

But price up a quad-processor laptop with 17" display and 8gb of RAM and
1TB HD, Apple pricing sucks the big one for value and are no better or
different in the end.

--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems as government is
the problem.

On 11/17/11 4:33 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/11/2011 8:37 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/17/11 8:42 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/17/2011 6:10 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 10:54 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/11/2011 7:53 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I can buy multiple PCs for the price of one Mac. The PCs run
Solaris,
Linux, VirtualBox and Win7 all at once.

And if you mean those under powered little crappy Macs, you get what
you
pay for. Plus in Canada, they don't price them fairly, about 30%
more
expensive here. So I boycott the idiots.

Granted, BSD UNIX is better, but I run that in a VM.


That you run cheesy PC's is no concern of mine. My work requires a
good
word processor, a good email client, good software to prepare
presentations, and web creation and editing suites, and some other
mainstream business software, All of that runs nicely on my iMac and
Macbook Pro.

OpenOffice
Thunderbird
Firefox
GIMP
KompoZer
Wireshark
VirtualBox
PGP and more.


Dozens of others.

I can run open office, t'bird, firefox, gimp, PGP, kompozer, and
probably virtual box under VM. So what's your point?

His point is that he isn't stuck with a proprietary, overpriced
nintendo...


Snerk. I can buy whatever computer tickles my fancy. I switched away
from Windows machines a few years ago. The Apple OS is pretty much Unix
with a candy shell around it. I've programmed a few things, but I'm not
much interested in programming. Never was, though I did learn how to
program in Pascal years ago.

You know Pascal is a sissy language for beginners. Probably as far as
you got.

Your comments about Macs are just further evidence of your ignorance. I
simply prefer the Macs these days. Your concept of "overpriced" is just
a reflection of your limited capabilities. The hardware and OS in my
Macs are more than capable of handling my business and personal
computing needs.

Hey, money no object and excluding value for the money, Apple is a good
machine.

But price up a quad-processor laptop with 17" display and 8gb of RAM and
1TB HD, Apple pricing sucks the big one for value and are no better or
different in the end.


I mostly use my laptop for checking and writing email while on the road.
No need for a quad processor, 17" laptop for that. My next laptop will
be an iPad.

On 11/17/11 7:25 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:33:12 -0700,
wrote:

On 17/11/2011 8:37 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/17/11 8:42 AM, JustWait wrote:

Your comments about Macs are just further evidence of your ignorance. I
simply prefer the Macs these days. Your concept of "overpriced" is just
a reflection of your limited capabilities. The hardware and OS in my
Macs are more than capable of handling my business and personal
computing needs.

Hey, money no object and excluding value for the money, Apple is a good
machine.

But price up a quad-processor laptop with 17" display and 8gb of RAM and
1TB HD, Apple pricing sucks the big one for value and are no better or
different in the end.

My neighbor, a snowbird from Germany and I have had this Apple/PC
argument a few times and the bottom line is, he doesn't want to know
he has a computer, it is just an appliance to him.
I like computers and I like working with them so it doesn't bother me
knowing I have a computer..


My iMac has a 27" screen, an intel i7 processor, 16 gigabytes of RAM, a
one terabyte hard drive and is "served" by an 8 terabyte Synology
server. Gee, I wonder what apps significant to me I can't run on this
mac and if it is only available under a MS OS, under Windows 7 under
VMware?

For most users, the hardware platform no longer is relevant.