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On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:09:01 -0500, X ` Man
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I had a choice of drives for my server, so I bought four of these:

Seagate Constellation ES 2 TB Internal hard drive - 300 MBps - 7200 rpm


Seagate/Maxtor is a pretty good drive


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The problem with Apple, at least in former days, was you had to buy the
drive from Apple at excessive price. Same frikken drive as on a PC but with
a unique identifier in the SCSI packet. I designed Maxtor drives and they
were the same exact drive except for the identifier. The problem with WD
drives was getting them to be reliable at 7200 rpm. As Jim McCoy, Chairman
of Maxtor when I worked there, stated, anyone can build a 3600 rpm drive,
hard to handle the head flying and control at 7200 rpm. Lots of turbulence
at the extra rpm.

On 15/11/2011 6:47 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X `
wrote:

On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X ` wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday. Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.

So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I showed up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard drive in
machine, running diagnostics.

No charge for labor or parts.

Love it.

Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still under warranty?

Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about $100 for a three
year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a problem, I call
Apple Care on the phone and usually the English speaking person who
answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is suggested. If
not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local store.

I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the machine from a backup.

Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the manufacturer
these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most computer
problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been true for a long
time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and open reel tape
drive.

No one will ever miss the cards and open reels.

In fact, a IBM keypunch with Fortran was my first computer experience in
high school. Always made sure my cards were at the top of the deck so
when the deck was aborted for errors, it might have finished your work
first. There were always a few who couldn't code. No logic.

But in college, got a hold of a PET 2000, and after that I knew the
future was a microprocessor and only worked non-micros based systems if
I had to in order to accomplish something. But did port a lot of Modula
and Cobol to C.

Yep, I have been involved with ditching many a mainframes, at least
dozen high end ones at the time.
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On Nov 15, 4:45*pm, X ` Man wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday. Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.

So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I showed up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard drive in
machine, running diagnostics.

No charge for labor or parts.

Love it.

Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still under warranty?

Well, if you look back, you'll find that Harry's been using Apples for
less than a year. I guess you could believe Harry, though.....

X ` Man wrote:

One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday. Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.

So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I showed up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard drive in
machine, running diagnostics.

No charge for labor or parts.

Love it.


Some hard drives die quickly, while some appear to last forever...

The following is a current screenshot of S.M.A.R.T. diagnostics of one
of the hard drives in my computer:
http://stigbye.motocross.io/temporar...agnostics.html

Note the diagnostics parameter "Power On Hours Count" marked with red,
as if the hexadecimal value in the rightmost column is calculated to a
decimal value, this will show the exact and total hours this hard drive
has been powered on...

When running a standard disk diagnosis tool on this hard drive, there is
also and so far not a single bad sector or other data errors found.

As both the number of power on hours and no bad sectors or data errors
has been common with many of my hard drives, what do you think my secret
is for keeping my hard drives running error free for "centuries"...?



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On 11/15/2011 3:45 PM, X ` Man wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday. Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.


So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I showed up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard drive in
machine, running diagnostics.

No charge for labor or parts.



Love it.

Too bad Apple is anti-union in those stores, eh?

On 11/15/2011 3:45 PM, X ` Man wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday. Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.


So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I showed up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard drive in
machine, running diagnostics.

No charge for labor or parts.



Love it.

Do you love the way Apple is polluting China?

"Apple recently had a meeting with Chinese environmental groups during
which it admitted that 15 of the plants it uses in its supply chain
violate China’s environmental regulations. The Cupertino-based company
has typically ignored any accusations that its plants are over
polluting. Apple reportedly made the admission during a three-hour
discussion with the EnviroFriends Institute of Environmental Science and
Technology, Friends of Nature and the Institute of Public and
Environmental Affairs."