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Drifter[_2_] November 16th 11 06:15 PM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/16/2011 11:23 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 08:48:42 -0500, wrote:

In ,

says...

On 11/15/11 8:49 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/15/2011 8:47 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X `
wrote:

On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X ` wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been
dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday. Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.

So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I showed
up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard drive in
machine, running diagnostics.

No charge for labor or parts.

Love it.

Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still under warranty?

Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about $100 for a three
year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a problem, I call
Apple Care on the phone and usually the English speaking person who
answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is suggested. If
not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local store.

I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the machine from a backup.

Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the manufacturer
these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most computer
problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been true for a long
time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and open reel tape
drive.

Wow! You mean Harry bought an extended service plan? Holy ****!!! I wish
those were available with PC's;)snerk


I'm sure with all the imaginary computers at your facilities, you can
just hot swap a failed drive out instantaneously, right?

It's about that simple to do so.



You can hot swap any SATA drive in any win OS, XP or newer.

I was playing with drives the other day and as soon as you plug them
in, XP finds them and installs them.
I am not sure the RAID BIOS on the controller card would actually
rebuild the drive tho since that is usually only accessible on a boot.
I think you can mirror in the OS. I just haven't done it.


Yep, Harry the computer expert just doesn't know...


Maybe you could explain why Harry would need a server.

--
1-20-13 The end of an error

Canuck57[_9_] November 16th 11 06:16 PM

A nice apple story
 
On 15/11/2011 2:12 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articleFO6dnQwMceLqUl_TnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday. Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.


So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I showed up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard drive in
machine, running diagnostics.

No charge for labor or parts.



Love it.


Wow, so if someone tells you to "go to lunch" you step right to it, eh?
Must be afraid of the tech guy as well as everyone else, coward. Maybe
if they didn't deal in Chinese parts, you'd have a better computer.


American quality was so bad and expensive, they don't make them any more.
--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems as government is
the problem.

Canuck57[_9_] November 16th 11 06:26 PM

A nice apple story
 
On 15/11/2011 6:47 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X `
wrote:

On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X ` wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday. Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.

So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I showed up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard drive in
machine, running diagnostics.

No charge for labor or parts.

Love it.

Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still under warranty?


Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about $100 for a three
year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a problem, I call
Apple Care on the phone and usually the English speaking person who
answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is suggested. If
not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local store.

I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the machine from a backup.


Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the manufacturer
these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most computer
problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been true for a long
time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and open reel tape
drive.


No one will ever miss the cards and open reels.

In fact, a IBM keypunch with Fortran was my first computer experience in
high school. Always made sure my cards were at the top of the deck so
when the deck was aborted for errors, it might have finished your work
first. There were always a few who couldn't code. No logic.

But in college, got a hold of a PET 2000, and after that I knew the
future was a microprocessor and only worked non-micros based systems if
I had to in order to accomplish something. But did port a lot of Modula
and Cobol to C.

Yep, I have been involved with ditching many a mainframes, at least
dozen high end ones at the time.
--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems as government is
the problem.

Canuck57[_9_] November 16th 11 06:32 PM

A nice apple story
 
On 15/11/2011 6:49 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/15/2011 8:47 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X `
wrote:

On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X ` wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been
dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday. Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.

So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I showed
up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard drive in
machine, running diagnostics.

No charge for labor or parts.

Love it.

Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still under warranty?

Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about $100 for a three
year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a problem, I call
Apple Care on the phone and usually the English speaking person who
answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is suggested. If
not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local store.

I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the machine from a backup.


Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the manufacturer
these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most computer
problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been true for a long
time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and open reel tape
drive.


Wow! You mean Harry bought an extended service plan? Holy ****!!! I wish
those were available with PC's;) snerk


But tells us harry can't recover his own PC.

First thing you do is make sure you can recover it yourself. As buying
a 1TB laptop drive to replace an old 200MB one has advantages that
warranter will not do.

He probably has a 250M drive or less, but could have saved the warranty
money for one of these: (and fast)

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX32627

--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems as government is
the problem.

Wayne.B November 16th 11 06:35 PM

A nice apple story
 
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:07:53 -0500, wrote:

You can hot swap any SATA drive in any win OS, XP or newer.

I was playing with drives the other day and as soon as you plug them
in, XP finds them and installs them.
I am not sure the RAID BIOS on the controller card would actually
rebuild the drive tho since that is usually only accessible on a boot.
I think you can mirror in the OS. I just haven't done it.


====

It's my understanding, perhaps incorrect, that the RAID controller has
to support hot swapping. The OS does not see drives unless the
controller enables them. There are different modes of RAID of
course, but assuming you are in a mode that supports dynamic rebuild
of a failed/failing disk, the controller would look for a new drive,
perform the rebuild operation, disable the old drive and enable the
new drive. All of that would be transparent to the OS as I understand
it.

A company named EMC pioneered dynamic RAID on IBM mainframes back in
the early 90s. It totally changed the way large shops managed their
DASD farms and EMC was eating IBM's lunch for a while.


Canuck57[_9_] November 16th 11 06:41 PM

A nice apple story
 
On 16/11/2011 4:33 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/15/11 8:49 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/15/2011 8:47 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X `
wrote:

On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X ` wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been
dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday. Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.

So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I showed
up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard
drive in
machine, running diagnostics.

No charge for labor or parts.

Love it.

Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still under warranty?

Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about $100 for a three
year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a problem, I call
Apple Care on the phone and usually the English speaking person who
answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is suggested. If
not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local store.

I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the machine from a backup.

Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the manufacturer
these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most computer
problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been true for a long
time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and open reel tape
drive.


Wow! You mean Harry bought an extended service plan? Holy ****!!! I wish
those were available with PC's;) snerk



I'm sure with all the imaginary computers at your facilities, you can
just hot swap a failed drive out instantaneously, right?


Takes about 2 minutes.

Just looked them up, due to devaluing currencies of CAD/USD and the
flood of the plants in Taiwan (but China is OK) looks like the new crop
of drives have more than doubled in price. Last one I bought was a 2TB
for $75. Now $269.

--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems as government is
the problem.

iBoaterer[_2_] November 16th 11 07:00 PM

A nice apple story
 
In article m,
says...

On 11/16/2011 11:23 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 08:48:42 -0500, wrote:

In ,

says...

On 11/15/11 8:49 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/15/2011 8:47 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X `
wrote:

On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X ` wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been
dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday. Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.

So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I showed
up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard drive in
machine, running diagnostics.

No charge for labor or parts.

Love it.

Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still under warranty?

Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about $100 for a three
year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a problem, I call
Apple Care on the phone and usually the English speaking person who
answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is suggested. If
not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local store.

I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the machine from a backup.

Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the manufacturer
these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most computer
problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been true for a long
time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and open reel tape
drive.

Wow! You mean Harry bought an extended service plan? Holy ****!!! I wish
those were available with PC's;)snerk


I'm sure with all the imaginary computers at your facilities, you can
just hot swap a failed drive out instantaneously, right?

It's about that simple to do so.


You can hot swap any SATA drive in any win OS, XP or newer.

I was playing with drives the other day and as soon as you plug them
in, XP finds them and installs them.
I am not sure the RAID BIOS on the controller card would actually
rebuild the drive tho since that is usually only accessible on a boot.
I think you can mirror in the OS. I just haven't done it.


Yep, Harry the computer expert just doesn't know...


Maybe you could explain why Harry would need a server.


I have no idea why, he only has a few clients! I'd just get a one
terabyte hard drive, hook it to a desktop computer, and for $80 when
it's full, buy a new one and put the old one on a shelf.

X ` Man[_3_] November 16th 11 07:17 PM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/16/11 1:32 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 15/11/2011 6:49 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/15/2011 8:47 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X `
wrote:

On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X ` wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been
dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday. Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.

So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I showed
up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard
drive in
machine, running diagnostics.

No charge for labor or parts.

Love it.

Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still under warranty?

Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about $100 for a three
year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a problem, I call
Apple Care on the phone and usually the English speaking person who
answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is suggested. If
not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local store.

I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the machine from a backup.

Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the manufacturer
these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most computer
problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been true for a long
time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and open reel tape
drive.


Wow! You mean Harry bought an extended service plan? Holy ****!!! I wish
those were available with PC's;) snerk


But tells us harry can't recover his own PC.

First thing you do is make sure you can recover it yourself. As buying a
1TB laptop drive to replace an old 200MB one has advantages that
warranter will not do.

He probably has a 250M drive or less, but could have saved the warranty
money for one of these: (and fast)

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX32627


D'oh. Every time you post, you demonstrate your stupidity.

The drive that failed is in a sealed iMac, not a PC box. You don't just
swap out drives in an iMac. And the iMac has a service contract, so
there is no need for me to try to take it apart.

Oh, the drive that failed was a 1 terabyte drive. My Macbook Pro laptop
has a 250 MB drive, which is more than adequate for its purpose.

I have four 2TB drives in my server.

I can "recover" the iMac from a bad software condition, but that wasn't
the case in this case.

When I have six months left on the iMac service contract, I'll sell it,
just as I did with my previous iMac, and get the latest model.

Now, anything more you wish to post out of your ignorance?


Canuck57[_9_] November 16th 11 07:52 PM

A nice apple story
 
On 16/11/2011 12:17 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 1:32 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 15/11/2011 6:49 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/15/2011 8:47 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X `
wrote:

On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X ` wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been
dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday.
Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to
try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.

So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I showed
up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard
drive in
machine, running diagnostics.

No charge for labor or parts.

Love it.

Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still under warranty?

Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about $100 for a three
year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a problem, I call
Apple Care on the phone and usually the English speaking person who
answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is
suggested. If
not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local store.

I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the machine from a backup.

Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the manufacturer
these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most computer
problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been true for a long
time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and open reel tape
drive.

Wow! You mean Harry bought an extended service plan? Holy ****!!! I wish
those were available with PC's;) snerk


But tells us harry can't recover his own PC.

First thing you do is make sure you can recover it yourself. As buying a
1TB laptop drive to replace an old 200MB one has advantages that
warranter will not do.

He probably has a 250M drive or less, but could have saved the warranty
money for one of these: (and fast)

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX32627


D'oh. Every time you post, you demonstrate your stupidity.

The drive that failed is in a sealed iMac, not a PC box. You don't just
swap out drives in an iMac. And the iMac has a service contract, so
there is no need for me to try to take it apart.

Oh, the drive that failed was a 1 terabyte drive. My Macbook Pro laptop
has a 250 MB drive, which is more than adequate for its purpose.

I have four 2TB drives in my server.

I can "recover" the iMac from a bad software condition, but that wasn't
the case in this case.

When I have six months left on the iMac service contract, I'll sell it,
just as I did with my previous iMac, and get the latest model.

Now, anything more you wish to post out of your ignorance?


So Macs are proprietary crap? Stupid loser users never learn.

The best way to judge a products quality is to ask but not buy a
warranty. Lower is better.

But for hard drives, I look at them as consumables and never run any
over 5 years old.

--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems as government is
the problem.

X ` Man[_3_] November 16th 11 07:59 PM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/16/11 2:52 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/11/2011 12:17 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 1:32 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 15/11/2011 6:49 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/15/2011 8:47 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X `
wrote:

On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X ` wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been
dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday.
Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to
try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.

So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I showed
up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard
drive in
machine, running diagnostics.

No charge for labor or parts.

Love it.

Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still under warranty?

Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about $100 for a three
year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a problem, I
call
Apple Care on the phone and usually the English speaking person who
answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is
suggested. If
not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local store.

I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the machine from a
backup.

Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the manufacturer
these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most computer
problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been true for a long
time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and open reel tape
drive.

Wow! You mean Harry bought an extended service plan? Holy ****!!! I
wish
those were available with PC's;) snerk

But tells us harry can't recover his own PC.

First thing you do is make sure you can recover it yourself. As buying a
1TB laptop drive to replace an old 200MB one has advantages that
warranter will not do.

He probably has a 250M drive or less, but could have saved the warranty
money for one of these: (and fast)

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX32627


D'oh. Every time you post, you demonstrate your stupidity.

The drive that failed is in a sealed iMac, not a PC box. You don't just
swap out drives in an iMac. And the iMac has a service contract, so
there is no need for me to try to take it apart.

Oh, the drive that failed was a 1 terabyte drive. My Macbook Pro laptop
has a 250 MB drive, which is more than adequate for its purpose.

I have four 2TB drives in my server.

I can "recover" the iMac from a bad software condition, but that wasn't
the case in this case.

When I have six months left on the iMac service contract, I'll sell it,
just as I did with my previous iMac, and get the latest model.

Now, anything more you wish to post out of your ignorance?


So Macs are proprietary crap? Stupid loser users never learn.

The best way to judge a products quality is to ask but not buy a
warranty. Lower is better.

But for hard drives, I look at them as consumables and never run any
over 5 years old.



No, dummy, the issue that kept me from replacing the iMac drive was not
a proprietary issue. They use standard OEM drives. Haven't you ever seen
a a recent model iMac? Perhaps you should look at one and get back to me
about replacing the innards.

And once again, you demonstrate your ignorance.

North Star November 16th 11 08:25 PM

A nice apple story
 
On Nov 16, 2:01*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article f0362e41-628e-4021-877f-07742d196000
@u5g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, says...







On Nov 16, 12:47*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 073e0067-1f83-4e91-af54-74910cf69ba3
@u5g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, says...


On Nov 16, 11:51*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 8095b07b-3ede-4c4c-b738-9fbb45ce2db1
@o14g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says...


On Nov 16, 9:39*am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:34 AM, North Star wrote:


On Nov 16, 9:01 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com *wrote:
On 11/16/11 7:47 AM, JustWait wrote:


On 11/16/2011 7:40 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 7:31 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...


On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X `
wrote:


On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X ` *wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been
dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday.
Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to
try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.


So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I
showed up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard
drive in
machine, running diagnostics.


No charge for labor or parts.


Love it.


Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still under warranty?


Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about $100 for a three
year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a problem, I call
Apple Care on the phone and usually the English speaking person who
answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is
suggested. If
not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local store.


I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the machine from a backup.


Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the manufacturer
these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most computer
problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been true for a long
time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and open reel tape
drive.


Usually the problems with rotating media is with a lot. You get about
10,000 that are bad and you need to have them replaced. They don't
recall them but, they do work with big commercial customers to get the
lots replaced. The consumer market, Apple is the consumer market, is
left to deal with it on an individual basis.


It's nice to deal with it with a mannerly fellow in Oregon on the phone
who speaks American English and isn't reading off a script, and when his
suggestions fail, sets you up with a firm appointment at the local
service desk. It's certain better than dealing with "Dell Hell" or "HP
Hiccups" personnel somewhere in India, Pakistan, or perhaps Saturn.


We know Harry, we do the same thing right up the street at Geek Squad...
You are not special, your computer is not special, your service is not
special... Except you spend an hour on the phone first...


What? An ISP reseller with facilities as extensive as the ones you claim
relies on Geek Squad for tech support?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


It just keeps getting better!


Do you have "Geek Squad" up there? Around here, they're located at Best
Buy Big Box stores and also drive funny little cars with huge "Geek
Squad" decals. They're not the guys you'd want if you were running a
substantial commercial facility.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Sounds familiar.... we have a couple of Best Buy stores locally.. I
just invite my son to dinner and then lay any computer problems I have
on him. *;-)
I had a harddrive crash last spring so I drove to a local parts store
and bought a new one. Bit of a pain loading everything back up though.


Is this after you go get beer for him and get him drunk, or before he
goes into his drunken stupor, Suckling Don the Coward?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Where were you yesterday at 1400 hrs, coward.
I knew you wouldn't show.......


You lie as much as Harry, Suckling Don the Coward. Harry's little trick
backfired when everyone realized he was just setting me up to get
arrested at his house. I have told him, repeatedly that I'll meet him on
public property. And, by the way, YOU weren't there, cowerd.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


What is a "cowerd"?
How would you know where I was if you were home hiding under your
wife's apron?


Wow, Suckling Don the Coward caught a typo. Oh, and I'm single. By
choice. Fact is, you and Harry once again proved what cowards you are.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Uh huh!
So... you were hiding behind your own apron?

X ` Man[_3_] November 16th 11 08:41 PM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/16/11 3:25 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 16, 2:01 pm, wrote:
In articlef0362e41-628e-4021-877f-07742d196000
@u5g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, says...







On Nov 16, 12:47 pm, wrote:
In article073e0067-1f83-4e91-af54-74910cf69ba3
@u5g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, says...


On Nov 16, 11:51 am, wrote:
In article8095b07b-3ede-4c4c-b738-9fbb45ce2db1
@o14g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says...


On Nov 16, 9:39 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:34 AM, North Star wrote:


On Nov 16, 9:01 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/16/11 7:47 AM, JustWait wrote:


On 11/16/2011 7:40 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 7:31 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...


On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X `
wrote:


On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X ` wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been
dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday.
Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to
try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.


So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I
showed up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard
drive in
machine, running diagnostics.


No charge for labor or parts.


Love it.


Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still under warranty?


Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about $100 for a three
year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a problem, I call
Apple Care on the phone and usually the English speaking person who
answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is
suggested. If
not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local store.


I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the machine from a backup.


Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the manufacturer
these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most computer
problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been true for a long
time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and open reel tape
drive.


Usually the problems with rotating media is with a lot. You get about
10,000 that are bad and you need to have them replaced. They don't
recall them but, they do work with big commercial customers to get the
lots replaced. The consumer market, Apple is the consumer market, is
left to deal with it on an individual basis.


It's nice to deal with it with a mannerly fellow in Oregon on the phone
who speaks American English and isn't reading off a script, and when his
suggestions fail, sets you up with a firm appointment at the local
service desk. It's certain better than dealing with "Dell Hell" or "HP
Hiccups" personnel somewhere in India, Pakistan, or perhaps Saturn.


We know Harry, we do the same thing right up the street at Geek Squad...
You are not special, your computer is not special, your service is not
special... Except you spend an hour on the phone first...


What? An ISP reseller with facilities as extensive as the ones you claim
relies on Geek Squad for tech support?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


It just keeps getting better!


Do you have "Geek Squad" up there? Around here, they're located at Best
Buy Big Box stores and also drive funny little cars with huge "Geek
Squad" decals. They're not the guys you'd want if you were running a
substantial commercial facility.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Sounds familiar.... we have a couple of Best Buy stores locally. I
just invite my son to dinner and then lay any computer problems I have
on him. ;-)
I had a harddrive crash last spring so I drove to a local parts store
and bought a new one. Bit of a pain loading everything back up though.


Is this after you go get beer for him and get him drunk, or before he
goes into his drunken stupor, Suckling Don the Coward?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Where were you yesterday at 1400 hrs, coward.
I knew you wouldn't show.......


You lie as much as Harry, Suckling Don the Coward. Harry's little trick
backfired when everyone realized he was just setting me up to get
arrested at his house. I have told him, repeatedly that I'll meet him on
public property. And, by the way, YOU weren't there, cowerd.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


What is a "cowerd"?
How would you know where I was if you were home hiding under your
wife's apron?


Wow, Suckling Don the Coward caught a typo. Oh, and I'm single. By
choice. Fact is, you and Harry once again proved what cowards you are.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Uh huh!
So... you were hiding behind your own apron?



Lil iLoogy is a piece of work. He threatens both of us with "beatings"
for years so both of us offer him a chance and what does he do? He pees
down his pants leg. He thinks I'll have him arrested after he takes his
first swing and I knock him out cold. What would be the fun in that? All
I'd do is take lots of photos.

But, of course, to have that chance, he has to present proper ID before
he shows up and he has to show up at a prearranged time, both conditions
part of my original offer. Which he hasn't the balls to accept.

Yep...he ****es down his pants leg...and continues to call us "cowards."
He must have attended the iSnotty school of stupidity.



iBoaterer[_2_] November 16th 11 08:56 PM

A nice apple story
 
In article 357b5e0a-a11c-4a6b-88a4-bf85c8d14464
@o13g2000vbo.googlegroups.com, says...

On Nov 16, 2:01*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article f0362e41-628e-4021-877f-07742d196000
@u5g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, says...







On Nov 16, 12:47*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 073e0067-1f83-4e91-af54-74910cf69ba3
@u5g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, says...


On Nov 16, 11:51*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 8095b07b-3ede-4c4c-b738-9fbb45ce2db1
@o14g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says...


On Nov 16, 9:39*am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:34 AM, North Star wrote:


On Nov 16, 9:01 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com *wrote:
On 11/16/11 7:47 AM, JustWait wrote:


On 11/16/2011 7:40 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 7:31 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...


On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X `
wrote:


On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X ` *wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been
dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday.
Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to
try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.


So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I
showed up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard
drive in
machine, running diagnostics.


No charge for labor or parts.


Love it.


Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still under warranty?


Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about $100 for a three
year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a problem, I call
Apple Care on the phone and usually the English speaking person who
answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is
suggested. If
not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local store.


I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the machine from a backup.


Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the manufacturer
these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most computer
problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been true for a long
time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and open reel tape
drive.


Usually the problems with rotating media is with a lot. You get about
10,000 that are bad and you need to have them replaced. They don't
recall them but, they do work with big commercial customers to get the
lots replaced. The consumer market, Apple is the consumer market, is
left to deal with it on an individual basis.


It's nice to deal with it with a mannerly fellow in Oregon on the phone
who speaks American English and isn't reading off a script, and when his
suggestions fail, sets you up with a firm appointment at the local
service desk. It's certain better than dealing with "Dell Hell" or "HP
Hiccups" personnel somewhere in India, Pakistan, or perhaps Saturn.


We know Harry, we do the same thing right up the street at Geek Squad...
You are not special, your computer is not special, your service is not
special... Except you spend an hour on the phone first...


What? An ISP reseller with facilities as extensive as the ones you claim
relies on Geek Squad for tech support?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


It just keeps getting better!


Do you have "Geek Squad" up there? Around here, they're located at Best
Buy Big Box stores and also drive funny little cars with huge "Geek
Squad" decals. They're not the guys you'd want if you were running a
substantial commercial facility.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Sounds familiar.... we have a couple of Best Buy stores locally. I
just invite my son to dinner and then lay any computer problems I have
on him. *;-)
I had a harddrive crash last spring so I drove to a local parts store
and bought a new one. Bit of a pain loading everything back up though.


Is this after you go get beer for him and get him drunk, or before he
goes into his drunken stupor, Suckling Don the Coward?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Where were you yesterday at 1400 hrs, coward.
I knew you wouldn't show.......


You lie as much as Harry, Suckling Don the Coward. Harry's little trick
backfired when everyone realized he was just setting me up to get
arrested at his house. I have told him, repeatedly that I'll meet him on
public property. And, by the way, YOU weren't there, cowerd.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


What is a "cowerd"?
How would you know where I was if you were home hiding under your
wife's apron?


Wow, Suckling Don the Coward caught a typo. Oh, and I'm single. By
choice. Fact is, you and Harry once again proved what cowards you are.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Uh huh!
So... you were hiding behind your own apron?


I've told you, come to Philly, I'll gladly meet you. GLADLY. As for
Harry, he's close enough, I'll meet him in any public place in
Huntingtown. You two cowards won't do that though, eh, Suckling Don the
Coward?

iBoaterer[_2_] November 16th 11 08:59 PM

A nice apple story
 
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 11/16/11 3:25 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 16, 2:01 pm, wrote:
In articlef0362e41-628e-4021-877f-07742d196000
@u5g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, says...







On Nov 16, 12:47 pm, wrote:
In article073e0067-1f83-4e91-af54-74910cf69ba3
@u5g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, says...

On Nov 16, 11:51 am, wrote:
In article8095b07b-3ede-4c4c-b738-9fbb45ce2db1
@o14g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says...

On Nov 16, 9:39 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:34 AM, North Star wrote:

On Nov 16, 9:01 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/16/11 7:47 AM, JustWait wrote:

On 11/16/2011 7:40 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 7:31 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X `
wrote:

On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X ` wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been
dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday.
Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to
try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.

So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I
showed up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard
drive in
machine, running diagnostics.

No charge for labor or parts.

Love it.

Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still under warranty?

Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about $100 for a three
year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a problem, I call
Apple Care on the phone and usually the English speaking person who
answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is
suggested. If
not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local store.

I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the machine from a backup.

Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the manufacturer
these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most computer
problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been true for a long
time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and open reel tape
drive.

Usually the problems with rotating media is with a lot. You get about
10,000 that are bad and you need to have them replaced. They don't
recall them but, they do work with big commercial customers to get the
lots replaced. The consumer market, Apple is the consumer market, is
left to deal with it on an individual basis.

It's nice to deal with it with a mannerly fellow in Oregon on the phone
who speaks American English and isn't reading off a script, and when his
suggestions fail, sets you up with a firm appointment at the local
service desk. It's certain better than dealing with "Dell Hell" or "HP
Hiccups" personnel somewhere in India, Pakistan, or perhaps Saturn.

We know Harry, we do the same thing right up the street at Geek Squad...
You are not special, your computer is not special, your service is not
special... Except you spend an hour on the phone first...

What? An ISP reseller with facilities as extensive as the ones you claim
relies on Geek Squad for tech support?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It just keeps getting better!

Do you have "Geek Squad" up there? Around here, they're located at Best
Buy Big Box stores and also drive funny little cars with huge "Geek
Squad" decals. They're not the guys you'd want if you were running a
substantial commercial facility.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Sounds familiar.... we have a couple of Best Buy stores locally. I
just invite my son to dinner and then lay any computer problems I have
on him. ;-)
I had a harddrive crash last spring so I drove to a local parts store
and bought a new one. Bit of a pain loading everything back up though.

Is this after you go get beer for him and get him drunk, or before he
goes into his drunken stupor, Suckling Don the Coward?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Where were you yesterday at 1400 hrs, coward.
I knew you wouldn't show.......

You lie as much as Harry, Suckling Don the Coward. Harry's little trick
backfired when everyone realized he was just setting me up to get
arrested at his house. I have told him, repeatedly that I'll meet him on
public property. And, by the way, YOU weren't there, cowerd.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What is a "cowerd"?
How would you know where I was if you were home hiding under your
wife's apron?

Wow, Suckling Don the Coward caught a typo. Oh, and I'm single. By
choice. Fact is, you and Harry once again proved what cowards you are.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Uh huh!
So... you were hiding behind your own apron?



Lil iLoogy is a piece of work. He threatens both of us with "beatings"
for years so both of us offer him a chance and what does he do? He pees
down his pants leg. He thinks I'll have him arrested after he takes his
first swing and I knock him out cold. What would be the fun in that? All
I'd do is take lots of photos.

But, of course, to have that chance, he has to present proper ID before
he shows up and he has to show up at a prearranged time, both conditions
part of my original offer. Which he hasn't the balls to accept.

Yep...he ****es down his pants leg...and continues to call us "cowards."
He must have attended the iSnotty school of stupidity.


Harry, once again, you ****ing coward, I'll meet you in a public place
anytime you want. You tried to have me come to your house so that I'll
be arrested, that's the ONLY reason you won't meet me in public. Now
I've sent your above threats to the Calvert county S.O. Again YOU are
the one with no balls, or else you'd gladly meet me in a public area.

North Star November 16th 11 09:25 PM

A nice apple story
 
On Nov 16, 4:56*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 357b5e0a-a11c-4a6b-88a4-bf85c8d14464
@o13g2000vbo.googlegroups.com, says...







On Nov 16, 2:01*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article f0362e41-628e-4021-877f-07742d196000
@u5g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, says...


On Nov 16, 12:47*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 073e0067-1f83-4e91-af54-74910cf69ba3
@u5g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, says...


On Nov 16, 11:51*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 8095b07b-3ede-4c4c-b738-9fbb45ce2db1
@o14g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says....


On Nov 16, 9:39*am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:34 AM, North Star wrote:


On Nov 16, 9:01 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com *wrote:
On 11/16/11 7:47 AM, JustWait wrote:


On 11/16/2011 7:40 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 7:31 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...


On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X `
wrote:


On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X ` *wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been
dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday.
Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to
try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.


So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I
showed up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard
drive in
machine, running diagnostics.


No charge for labor or parts.


Love it.


Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still under warranty?


Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about $100 for a three
year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a problem, I call
Apple Care on the phone and usually the English speaking person who
answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is
suggested. If
not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local store.


I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the machine from a backup.


Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the manufacturer
these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most computer
problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been true for a long
time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and open reel tape
drive.


Usually the problems with rotating media is with a lot. You get about
10,000 that are bad and you need to have them replaced. They don't
recall them but, they do work with big commercial customers to get the
lots replaced. The consumer market, Apple is the consumer market, is
left to deal with it on an individual basis.


It's nice to deal with it with a mannerly fellow in Oregon on the phone
who speaks American English and isn't reading off a script, and when his
suggestions fail, sets you up with a firm appointment at the local
service desk. It's certain better than dealing with "Dell Hell" or "HP
Hiccups" personnel somewhere in India, Pakistan, or perhaps Saturn.


We know Harry, we do the same thing right up the street at Geek Squad...
You are not special, your computer is not special, your service is not
special... Except you spend an hour on the phone first...


What? An ISP reseller with facilities as extensive as the ones you claim
relies on Geek Squad for tech support?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


It just keeps getting better!


Do you have "Geek Squad" up there? Around here, they're located at Best
Buy Big Box stores and also drive funny little cars with huge "Geek
Squad" decals. They're not the guys you'd want if you were running a
substantial commercial facility.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Sounds familiar.... we have a couple of Best Buy stores locally. I
just invite my son to dinner and then lay any computer problems I have
on him. *;-)
I had a harddrive crash last spring so I drove to a local parts store
and bought a new one. Bit of a pain loading everything back up though.


Is this after you go get beer for him and get him drunk, or before he
goes into his drunken stupor, Suckling Don the Coward?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Where were you yesterday at 1400 hrs, coward.
I knew you wouldn't show.......


You lie as much as Harry, Suckling Don the Coward. Harry's little trick
backfired when everyone realized he was just setting me up to get
arrested at his house. I have told him, repeatedly that I'll meet him on
public property. And, by the way, YOU weren't there, cowerd.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


What is a "cowerd"?
How would you know where I was if you were home hiding under your
wife's apron?


Wow, Suckling Don the Coward caught a typo. Oh, and I'm single. By
choice. Fact is, you and Harry once again proved what cowards you are..- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Uh huh!
So... you were hiding behind your own apron?


I've told you, come to Philly, I'll gladly meet you. GLADLY. As for
Harry, he's close enough, I'll meet him in any public place in
Huntingtown. You two cowards won't do that though, eh, Suckling Don the
Coward?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I feel like I'm back in elementary school talking to you & your
ponytailed sweetie.
You are all talk & no action. We knew that but just wanted you to
confirm same for anyone who might care in this dysfunctional
newsgroup.
I've made & proved my point...... now go play in the traffic, you've
been boring and tiresome for quite some while.

X ` Man[_3_] November 16th 11 09:34 PM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/16/11 4:25 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 16, 4:56 pm, wrote:
In article357b5e0a-a11c-4a6b-88a4-bf85c8d14464
@o13g2000vbo.googlegroups.com, says...







On Nov 16, 2:01 pm, wrote:
In articlef0362e41-628e-4021-877f-07742d196000
@u5g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, says...


On Nov 16, 12:47 pm, wrote:
In article073e0067-1f83-4e91-af54-74910cf69ba3
@u5g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, says...


On Nov 16, 11:51 am, wrote:
In article8095b07b-3ede-4c4c-b738-9fbb45ce2db1
@o14g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says...


On Nov 16, 9:39 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:34 AM, North Star wrote:


On Nov 16, 9:01 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/16/11 7:47 AM, JustWait wrote:


On 11/16/2011 7:40 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 7:31 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...


On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X `
wrote:


On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X ` wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been
dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday.
Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to
try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.


So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I
showed up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard
drive in
machine, running diagnostics.


No charge for labor or parts.


Love it.


Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still under warranty?


Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about $100 for a three
year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a problem, I call
Apple Care on the phone and usually the English speaking person who
answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is
suggested. If
not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local store.


I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the machine from a backup.


Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the manufacturer
these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most computer
problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been true for a long
time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and open reel tape
drive.


Usually the problems with rotating media is with a lot. You get about
10,000 that are bad and you need to have them replaced. They don't
recall them but, they do work with big commercial customers to get the
lots replaced. The consumer market, Apple is the consumer market, is
left to deal with it on an individual basis.


It's nice to deal with it with a mannerly fellow in Oregon on the phone
who speaks American English and isn't reading off a script, and when his
suggestions fail, sets you up with a firm appointment at the local
service desk. It's certain better than dealing with "Dell Hell" or "HP
Hiccups" personnel somewhere in India, Pakistan, or perhaps Saturn.


We know Harry, we do the same thing right up the street at Geek Squad...
You are not special, your computer is not special, your service is not
special... Except you spend an hour on the phone first...


What? An ISP reseller with facilities as extensive as the ones you claim
relies on Geek Squad for tech support?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


It just keeps getting better!


Do you have "Geek Squad" up there? Around here, they're located at Best
Buy Big Box stores and also drive funny little cars with huge "Geek
Squad" decals. They're not the guys you'd want if you were running a
substantial commercial facility.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Sounds familiar.... we have a couple of Best Buy stores locally. I
just invite my son to dinner and then lay any computer problems I have
on him. ;-)
I had a harddrive crash last spring so I drove to a local parts store
and bought a new one. Bit of a pain loading everything back up though.


Is this after you go get beer for him and get him drunk, or before he
goes into his drunken stupor, Suckling Don the Coward?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Where were you yesterday at 1400 hrs, coward.
I knew you wouldn't show.......


You lie as much as Harry, Suckling Don the Coward. Harry's little trick
backfired when everyone realized he was just setting me up to get
arrested at his house. I have told him, repeatedly that I'll meet him on
public property. And, by the way, YOU weren't there, cowerd.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


What is a "cowerd"?
How would you know where I was if you were home hiding under your
wife's apron?


Wow, Suckling Don the Coward caught a typo. Oh, and I'm single. By
choice. Fact is, you and Harry once again proved what cowards you are.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Uh huh!
So... you were hiding behind your own apron?


I've told you, come to Philly, I'll gladly meet you. GLADLY. As for
Harry, he's close enough, I'll meet him in any public place in
Huntingtown. You two cowards won't do that though, eh, Suckling Don the
Coward?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I feel like I'm back in elementary school talking to you& your
ponytailed sweetie.
You are all talk& no action. We knew that but just wanted you to
confirm same for anyone who might care in this dysfunctional
newsgroup.
I've made& proved my point...... now go play in the traffic, you've
been boring and tiresome for quite some while.



He just doesn't realize how badly he was called out. I still think he's
a 14-year-old boy using his mommie's computer.

JustWait November 16th 11 10:04 PM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/16/2011 4:34 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 4:25 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 16, 4:56 pm, wrote:
In article357b5e0a-a11c-4a6b-88a4-bf85c8d14464
@o13g2000vbo.googlegroups.com, says...







On Nov 16, 2:01 pm, wrote:
In articlef0362e41-628e-4021-877f-07742d196000
@u5g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, says...

On Nov 16, 12:47 pm, wrote:
In article073e0067-1f83-4e91-af54-74910cf69ba3
@u5g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, says...

On Nov 16, 11:51 am, wrote:
In article8095b07b-3ede-4c4c-b738-9fbb45ce2db1
@o14g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says...

On Nov 16, 9:39 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:34 AM, North Star wrote:

On Nov 16, 9:01 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/16/11 7:47 AM, JustWait wrote:

On 11/16/2011 7:40 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 7:31 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X `

wrote:

On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X `
wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple
computers has been
dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost
yesterday.
Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four
different ways to
try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.

So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple
store. I
showed up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later,
new hard
drive in
machine, running diagnostics.

No charge for labor or parts.

Love it.

Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still
under warranty?

Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about
$100 for a three
year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a
problem, I call
Apple Care on the phone and usually the English
speaking person who
answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is
suggested. If
not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local
store.

I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the
machine from a backup.

Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the
manufacturer
these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most
computer
problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been
true for a long
time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and
open reel tape
drive.

Usually the problems with rotating media is with a lot.
You get about
10,000 that are bad and you need to have them replaced.
They don't
recall them but, they do work with big commercial
customers to get the
lots replaced. The consumer market, Apple is the
consumer market, is
left to deal with it on an individual basis.

It's nice to deal with it with a mannerly fellow in
Oregon on the phone
who speaks American English and isn't reading off a
script, and when his
suggestions fail, sets you up with a firm appointment at
the local
service desk. It's certain better than dealing with "Dell
Hell" or "HP
Hiccups" personnel somewhere in India, Pakistan, or
perhaps Saturn.

We know Harry, we do the same thing right up the street at
Geek Squad...
You are not special, your computer is not special, your
service is not
special... Except you spend an hour on the phone first...

What? An ISP reseller with facilities as extensive as the
ones you claim
relies on Geek Squad for tech support?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It just keeps getting better!

Do you have "Geek Squad" up there? Around here, they're
located at Best
Buy Big Box stores and also drive funny little cars with huge
"Geek
Squad" decals. They're not the guys you'd want if you were
running a
substantial commercial facility.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Sounds familiar.... we have a couple of Best Buy stores
locally. I
just invite my son to dinner and then lay any computer
problems I have
on him. ;-)
I had a harddrive crash last spring so I drove to a local
parts store
and bought a new one. Bit of a pain loading everything back up
though.

Is this after you go get beer for him and get him drunk, or
before he
goes into his drunken stupor, Suckling Don the Coward?- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Where were you yesterday at 1400 hrs, coward.
I knew you wouldn't show.......

You lie as much as Harry, Suckling Don the Coward. Harry's little
trick
backfired when everyone realized he was just setting me up to get
arrested at his house. I have told him, repeatedly that I'll meet
him on
public property. And, by the way, YOU weren't there, cowerd.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What is a "cowerd"?
How would you know where I was if you were home hiding under your
wife's apron?

Wow, Suckling Don the Coward caught a typo. Oh, and I'm single. By
choice. Fact is, you and Harry once again proved what cowards you
are.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Uh huh!
So... you were hiding behind your own apron?

I've told you, come to Philly, I'll gladly meet you. GLADLY. As for
Harry, he's close enough, I'll meet him in any public place in
Huntingtown. You two cowards won't do that though, eh, Suckling Don the
Coward?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I feel like I'm back in elementary school talking to you& your
ponytailed sweetie.
You are all talk& no action. We knew that but just wanted you to
confirm same for anyone who might care in this dysfunctional
newsgroup.
I've made& proved my point...... now go play in the traffic, you've
been boring and tiresome for quite some while.



He just doesn't realize how badly he was called out. I still think he's
a 14-year-old boy using his mommie's computer.


You didn't call him out at all and you sit here all day puffing out your
chest. You invited him into some sort of setup. Everyone here knows you
use the cops or someone else to fight your battles.

X ` Man[_3_] November 16th 11 10:14 PM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/16/11 5:04 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 4:34 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 4:25 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 16, 4:56 pm, wrote:
In article357b5e0a-a11c-4a6b-88a4-bf85c8d14464
@o13g2000vbo.googlegroups.com, says...







On Nov 16, 2:01 pm, wrote:
In articlef0362e41-628e-4021-877f-07742d196000
@u5g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, says...

On Nov 16, 12:47 pm, wrote:
In article073e0067-1f83-4e91-af54-74910cf69ba3
@u5g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, says...

On Nov 16, 11:51 am, wrote:
In article8095b07b-3ede-4c4c-b738-9fbb45ce2db1
@o14g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says...

On Nov 16, 9:39 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:34 AM, North Star wrote:

On Nov 16, 9:01 am, X `
Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/16/11 7:47 AM, JustWait wrote:

On 11/16/2011 7:40 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 7:31 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X `

wrote:

On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X `
wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple
computers has been
dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost
yesterday.
Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four
different ways to
try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.

So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple
store. I
showed up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later,
new hard
drive in
machine, running diagnostics.

No charge for labor or parts.

Love it.

Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still
under warranty?

Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about
$100 for a three
year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a
problem, I call
Apple Care on the phone and usually the English
speaking person who
answers can work out the difficulty with me doing
what is
suggested. If
not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local
store.

I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the
machine from a backup.

Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the
manufacturer
these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most
computer
problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been
true for a long
time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and
open reel tape
drive.

Usually the problems with rotating media is with a lot.
You get about
10,000 that are bad and you need to have them replaced.
They don't
recall them but, they do work with big commercial
customers to get the
lots replaced. The consumer market, Apple is the
consumer market, is
left to deal with it on an individual basis.

It's nice to deal with it with a mannerly fellow in
Oregon on the phone
who speaks American English and isn't reading off a
script, and when his
suggestions fail, sets you up with a firm appointment at
the local
service desk. It's certain better than dealing with "Dell
Hell" or "HP
Hiccups" personnel somewhere in India, Pakistan, or
perhaps Saturn.

We know Harry, we do the same thing right up the street at
Geek Squad...
You are not special, your computer is not special, your
service is not
special... Except you spend an hour on the phone first...

What? An ISP reseller with facilities as extensive as the
ones you claim
relies on Geek Squad for tech support?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It just keeps getting better!

Do you have "Geek Squad" up there? Around here, they're
located at Best
Buy Big Box stores and also drive funny little cars with huge
"Geek
Squad" decals. They're not the guys you'd want if you were
running a
substantial commercial facility.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Sounds familiar.... we have a couple of Best Buy stores
locally. I
just invite my son to dinner and then lay any computer
problems I have
on him. ;-)
I had a harddrive crash last spring so I drove to a local
parts store
and bought a new one. Bit of a pain loading everything back up
though.

Is this after you go get beer for him and get him drunk, or
before he
goes into his drunken stupor, Suckling Don the Coward?- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Where were you yesterday at 1400 hrs, coward.
I knew you wouldn't show.......

You lie as much as Harry, Suckling Don the Coward. Harry's little
trick
backfired when everyone realized he was just setting me up to get
arrested at his house. I have told him, repeatedly that I'll meet
him on
public property. And, by the way, YOU weren't there, cowerd.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What is a "cowerd"?
How would you know where I was if you were home hiding under your
wife's apron?

Wow, Suckling Don the Coward caught a typo. Oh, and I'm single. By
choice. Fact is, you and Harry once again proved what cowards you
are.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Uh huh!
So... you were hiding behind your own apron?

I've told you, come to Philly, I'll gladly meet you. GLADLY. As for
Harry, he's close enough, I'll meet him in any public place in
Huntingtown. You two cowards won't do that though, eh, Suckling Don the
Coward?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I feel like I'm back in elementary school talking to you& your
ponytailed sweetie.
You are all talk& no action. We knew that but just wanted you to
confirm same for anyone who might care in this dysfunctional
newsgroup.
I've made& proved my point...... now go play in the traffic, you've
been boring and tiresome for quite some while.



He just doesn't realize how badly he was called out. I still think he's
a 14-year-old boy using his mommie's computer.


You didn't call him out at all and you sit here all day puffing out your
chest. You invited him into some sort of setup. Everyone here knows you
use the cops or someone else to fight your battles.



Uh, *you* and several of the other ignorant righties here are not the
guys I'd go to for explanations of what posters say or mean. I gave
iLoogy the opportunity to fulfill one of his fantasies. I did it within
the framework of reasonable conditions. I told him I wasn't interested
in negotiating.

He wussied out, just as I suspected he would. He's the same sort of
short little loudmouthed **** you are.

North Star November 17th 11 12:17 AM

A nice apple story
 
On Nov 16, 6:04*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 4:34 PM, X ` Man wrote:





On 11/16/11 4:25 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 16, 4:56 pm, wrote:
In article357b5e0a-a11c-4a6b-88a4-bf85c8d14464
@o13g2000vbo.googlegroups.com, says...


On Nov 16, 2:01 pm, wrote:
In articlef0362e41-628e-4021-877f-07742d196000
@u5g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, says...


On Nov 16, 12:47 pm, wrote:
In article073e0067-1f83-4e91-af54-74910cf69ba3
@u5g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, says...


On Nov 16, 11:51 am, wrote:
In article8095b07b-3ede-4c4c-b738-9fbb45ce2db1
@o14g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says...


On Nov 16, 9:39 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:34 AM, North Star wrote:


On Nov 16, 9:01 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/16/11 7:47 AM, JustWait wrote:


On 11/16/2011 7:40 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 7:31 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...


On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X `

wrote:


On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X `
wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple
computers has been
dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost
yesterday.
Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four
different ways to
try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.


So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple
store. I
showed up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later,
new hard
drive in
machine, running diagnostics.


No charge for labor or parts.


Love it.


Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still
under warranty?


Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about
$100 for a three
year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a
problem, I call
Apple Care on the phone and usually the English
speaking person who
answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is
suggested. If
not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local
store.


I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the
machine from a backup.


Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the
manufacturer
these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most
computer
problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been
true for a long
time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and
open reel tape
drive.


Usually the problems with rotating media is with a lot.
You get about
10,000 that are bad and you need to have them replaced.
They don't
recall them but, they do work with big commercial
customers to get the
lots replaced. The consumer market, Apple is the
consumer market, is
left to deal with it on an individual basis.


It's nice to deal with it with a mannerly fellow in
Oregon on the phone
who speaks American English and isn't reading off a
script, and when his
suggestions fail, sets you up with a firm appointment at
the local
service desk. It's certain better than dealing with "Dell
Hell" or "HP
Hiccups" personnel somewhere in India, Pakistan, or
perhaps Saturn.


We know Harry, we do the same thing right up the street at
Geek Squad...
You are not special, your computer is not special, your
service is not
special... Except you spend an hour on the phone first...


What? An ISP reseller with facilities as extensive as the
ones you claim
relies on Geek Squad for tech support?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


It just keeps getting better!


Do you have "Geek Squad" up there? Around here, they're
located at Best
Buy Big Box stores and also drive funny little cars with huge
"Geek
Squad" decals. They're not the guys you'd want if you were
running a
substantial commercial facility.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Sounds familiar.... we have a couple of Best Buy stores
locally. I
just invite my son to dinner and then lay any computer
problems I have
on him. ;-)
I had a harddrive crash last spring so I drove to a local
parts store
and bought a new one. Bit of a pain loading everything back up
though.


Is this after you go get beer for him and get him drunk, or
before he
goes into his drunken stupor, Suckling Don the Coward?- Hide
quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Where were you yesterday at 1400 hrs, coward.
I knew you wouldn't show.......


You lie as much as Harry, Suckling Don the Coward. Harry's little
trick
backfired when everyone realized he was just setting me up to get
arrested at his house. I have told him, repeatedly that I'll meet
him on
public property. And, by the way, YOU weren't there, cowerd.-
Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


What is a "cowerd"?
How would you know where I was if you were home hiding under your
wife's apron?


Wow, Suckling Don the Coward caught a typo. Oh, and I'm single. By
choice. Fact is, you and Harry once again proved what cowards you
are.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Uh huh!
So... you were hiding behind your own apron?


I've told you, come to Philly, I'll gladly meet you. GLADLY. As for
Harry, he's close enough, I'll meet him in any public place in
Huntingtown. You two cowards won't do that though, eh, Suckling Don the
Coward?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I feel like I'm back in elementary school talking to you& your
ponytailed sweetie.
You are all talk& no action. We knew that but just wanted you to
confirm same for anyone who might care in this dysfunctional
newsgroup.
I've made& proved my point...... now go play in the traffic, you've
been boring and tiresome for quite some while.


He just doesn't realize how badly he was called out. I still think he's
a 14-year-old boy using his mommie's computer.


You didn't call him out at all and you sit here all day puffing out your
chest. You invited him into some sort of setup. Everyone here knows you
use the cops or someone else to fight your battles.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I did.... I gave him a location, date and percise time.

X ` Man[_3_] November 17th 11 12:21 AM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/16/11 7:17 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 16, 6:04 pm, wrote:



You didn't call him out at all and you sit here all day puffing out your
chest. You invited him into some sort of setup. Everyone here knows you
use the cops or someone else to fight your battles.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I did.... I gave him a location, date and percise time.


Yeah, but you knew that would be out of range of his court-ordered ankle
bracelet GPS locator.

It's been demonstrated to anyone here with a brain that little iLoogy
*is* the coward.

Honey Badger[_16_] November 17th 11 01:34 AM

A nice apple story
 
North Star wrote:
I did.... I gave him a location, date and percise time.


WTF is percise, spelling pro?

-HB

Canuck57[_9_] November 17th 11 01:50 AM

A nice apple story
 
On 16/11/2011 12:59 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 2:52 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/11/2011 12:17 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 1:32 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 15/11/2011 6:49 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/15/2011 8:47 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:18 -0500, X `
wrote:

On 11/15/11 6:36 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:45 pm, X ` wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been
dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday.
Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to
try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.

So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I
showed
up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard
drive in
machine, running diagnostics.

No charge for labor or parts.

Love it.

Wow! just how old is that computer and was it still under warranty?

Two years next month. When I bought it, I paid about $100 for a
three
year extended warranty. It's really nice...if I have a problem, I
call
Apple Care on the phone and usually the English speaking person who
answers can work out the difficulty with me doing what is
suggested. If
not, the rep makes an appointment for me at the local store.

I just reinstalled my apps and data back on the machine from a
backup.

Since most hard drives are warranted for 5 years by the manufacturer
these days that seems like a great deal for Apple. Most computer
problems are caused by bad hard drives. That has been true for a long
time, pretty much since the end of the card reader and open reel tape
drive.

Wow! You mean Harry bought an extended service plan? Holy ****!!! I
wish
those were available with PC's;) snerk

But tells us harry can't recover his own PC.

First thing you do is make sure you can recover it yourself. As
buying a
1TB laptop drive to replace an old 200MB one has advantages that
warranter will not do.

He probably has a 250M drive or less, but could have saved the warranty
money for one of these: (and fast)

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX32627


D'oh. Every time you post, you demonstrate your stupidity.

The drive that failed is in a sealed iMac, not a PC box. You don't just
swap out drives in an iMac. And the iMac has a service contract, so
there is no need for me to try to take it apart.

Oh, the drive that failed was a 1 terabyte drive. My Macbook Pro laptop
has a 250 MB drive, which is more than adequate for its purpose.

I have four 2TB drives in my server.

I can "recover" the iMac from a bad software condition, but that wasn't
the case in this case.

When I have six months left on the iMac service contract, I'll sell it,
just as I did with my previous iMac, and get the latest model.

Now, anything more you wish to post out of your ignorance?


So Macs are proprietary crap? Stupid loser users never learn.

The best way to judge a products quality is to ask but not buy a
warranty. Lower is better.

But for hard drives, I look at them as consumables and never run any
over 5 years old.



No, dummy, the issue that kept me from replacing the iMac drive was not
a proprietary issue. They use standard OEM drives. Haven't you ever seen
a a recent model iMac? Perhaps you should look at one and get back to me
about replacing the innards.

And once again, you demonstrate your ignorance.


I can buy multiple PCs for the price of one Mac. The PCs run Solaris,
Linux, VirtualBox and Win7 all at once.

And if you mean those under powered little crappy Macs, you get what you
pay for. Plus in Canada, they don't price them fairly, about 30% more
expensive here. So I boycott the idiots.

Granted, BSD UNIX is better, but I run that in a VM.

--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems as government is
the problem.

JustWait November 17th 11 02:12 AM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/16/2011 8:34 PM, Honey Badger wrote:
North Star wrote:
I did.... I gave him a location, date and percise time.


WTF is percise, spelling pro?

-HB


He's drooling again. Looks like their plan was to make ridiculous no
compromise offers they knew nobody would take....

North Star November 17th 11 02:31 AM

A nice apple story
 
On Nov 16, 10:12*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 8:34 PM, Honey Badger wrote:

North Star wrote:
I did.... I gave him a location, date and percise time.


WTF is percise, spelling pro?


-HB


He's drooling again. Looks like their plan was to make ridiculous no
compromise offers they knew nobody would take....


Hey... y'all were talking so tough, I just had to see what y'all got.
Can't be much since your sweetie chickened out... cluck, cluck, cluck!

X ` Man[_3_] November 17th 11 02:35 AM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/16/11 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/11/2011 12:59 PM, X ` Man wrote:


I can buy multiple PCs for the price of one Mac. The PCs run Solaris,
Linux, VirtualBox and Win7 all at once.


I can make the same purchases. So what? And I have no need for running
multiple OS's at the same time. I can also run VM Ware and run multiple
OS's at the same time. Yawn.



And if you mean those under powered little crappy Macs, you get what you
pay for. Plus in Canada, they don't price them fairly, about 30% more
expensive here. So I boycott the idiots.

Granted, BSD UNIX is better, but I run that in a VM.



X ` Man November 17th 11 02:49 AM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/16/11 9:12 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 8:34 PM, Honey Badger wrote:
North Star wrote:
I did.... I gave him a location, date and percise time.


WTF is percise, spelling pro?

-HB


He's drooling again. Looks like their plan was to make ridiculous no
compromise offers they knew nobody would take....



Don and I made simple, straightforward offers. Your son iLoogy was
unable to meet the simple conditions because, like you, he's a coward.

X ` Man November 17th 11 02:53 AM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/16/11 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I can buy multiple PCs for the price of one Mac. The PCs run Solaris,
Linux, VirtualBox and Win7 all at once.

And if you mean those under powered little crappy Macs, you get what you
pay for. Plus in Canada, they don't price them fairly, about 30% more
expensive here. So I boycott the idiots.

Granted, BSD UNIX is better, but I run that in a VM.


That you run cheesy PC's is no concern of mine. My work requires a good
word processor, a good email client, good software to prepare
presentations, and web creation and editing suites, and some other
mainstream business software, All of that runs nicely on my iMac and
Macbook Pro.

JustWait November 17th 11 03:09 AM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/16/2011 9:49 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 9:12 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 8:34 PM, Honey Badger wrote:
North Star wrote:
I did.... I gave him a location, date and percise time.

WTF is percise, spelling pro?

-HB


He's drooling again. Looks like their plan was to make ridiculous no
compromise offers they knew nobody would take....



Don and I made simple, straightforward offers. Your son iLoogy was
unable to meet the simple conditions because, like you, he's a coward.


No you didn't. You set all kinds of rules that would suggest a straight
up ambush from loser goons, or cops which is the probable course a
coward like you would take... We know you are dying to use your widdew
capgun on somebody, anybody... Karen better watch out.

Canuck57[_9_] November 17th 11 03:54 AM

A nice apple story
 
On 16/11/2011 7:53 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I can buy multiple PCs for the price of one Mac. The PCs run Solaris,
Linux, VirtualBox and Win7 all at once.

And if you mean those under powered little crappy Macs, you get what you
pay for. Plus in Canada, they don't price them fairly, about 30% more
expensive here. So I boycott the idiots.

Granted, BSD UNIX is better, but I run that in a VM.


That you run cheesy PC's is no concern of mine. My work requires a good
word processor, a good email client, good software to prepare
presentations, and web creation and editing suites, and some other
mainstream business software, All of that runs nicely on my iMac and
Macbook Pro.


OpenOffice
Thunderbird
Firefox
GIMP
KompoZer
Wireshark
VirtualBox
PGP and more.


Dozens of others.
--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems as government is
the problem.

X ` Man[_3_] November 17th 11 11:08 AM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/16/11 10:09 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 9:49 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 9:12 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 8:34 PM, Honey Badger wrote:
North Star wrote:
I did.... I gave him a location, date and percise time.

WTF is percise, spelling pro?

-HB

He's drooling again. Looks like their plan was to make ridiculous no
compromise offers they knew nobody would take....



Don and I made simple, straightforward offers. Your son iLoogy was
unable to meet the simple conditions because, like you, he's a coward.


No you didn't. You set all kinds of rules that would suggest a straight
up ambush from loser goons, or cops which is the probable course a
coward like you would take... We know you are dying to use your widdew
capgun on somebody, anybody... Karen better watch out.



All kinds of rules?

You mean:

No meeting without advance notice
Prior and proper identification mandatory
Meet *here*
No weapons

Hey, I know life for you is a mystery, but the conditions offered were
simple and straightforward.

Drifter[_2_] November 17th 11 11:10 AM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/17/2011 6:08 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 10:09 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 9:49 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 9:12 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 8:34 PM, Honey Badger wrote:
North Star wrote:
I did.... I gave him a location, date and percise time.

WTF is percise, spelling pro?

-HB

He's drooling again. Looks like their plan was to make ridiculous no
compromise offers they knew nobody would take....


Don and I made simple, straightforward offers. Your son iLoogy was
unable to meet the simple conditions because, like you, he's a coward.


No you didn't. You set all kinds of rules that would suggest a straight
up ambush from loser goons, or cops which is the probable course a
coward like you would take... We know you are dying to use your widdew
capgun on somebody, anybody... Karen better watch out.



All kinds of rules?

You mean:

No meeting without advance notice
Prior and proper identification mandatory
Meet *here*
No weapons

Hey, I know life for you is a mystery, but the conditions offered were
simple and straightforward.


You forgot to mention your hired thugs.

--
1-20-13 The end of an error

X ` Man[_3_] November 17th 11 11:10 AM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/16/11 10:54 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/11/2011 7:53 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I can buy multiple PCs for the price of one Mac. The PCs run Solaris,
Linux, VirtualBox and Win7 all at once.

And if you mean those under powered little crappy Macs, you get what you
pay for. Plus in Canada, they don't price them fairly, about 30% more
expensive here. So I boycott the idiots.

Granted, BSD UNIX is better, but I run that in a VM.


That you run cheesy PC's is no concern of mine. My work requires a good
word processor, a good email client, good software to prepare
presentations, and web creation and editing suites, and some other
mainstream business software, All of that runs nicely on my iMac and
Macbook Pro.


OpenOffice
Thunderbird
Firefox
GIMP
KompoZer
Wireshark
VirtualBox
PGP and more.


Dozens of others.


I can run open office, t'bird, firefox, gimp, PGP, kompozer, and
probably virtual box under VM. So what's your point?

North Star November 17th 11 12:55 PM

A nice apple story
 
On Nov 17, 7:10*am, Drifter wrote:
On 11/17/2011 6:08 AM, X ` Man wrote:





On 11/16/11 10:09 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 9:49 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 9:12 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 8:34 PM, Honey Badger wrote:
North Star wrote:
I did.... I gave him a location, date and percise time.


WTF is percise, spelling pro?


-HB


He's drooling again. Looks like their plan was to make ridiculous no
compromise offers they knew nobody would take....


Don and I made simple, straightforward offers. Your son iLoogy was
unable to meet the simple conditions because, like you, he's a coward..


No you didn't. You set all kinds of rules that would suggest a straight
up ambush from loser goons, or cops which is the probable course a
coward like you would take... We know you are dying to use your widdew
capgun on somebody, anybody... Karen better watch out.


All kinds of rules?


You mean:


No meeting without advance notice
Prior and proper identification mandatory
Meet *here*
No weapons


Hey, I know life for you is a mystery, but the conditions offered were
simple and straightforward.


You forgot to mention your hired thugs.

--
1-20-13 The end of an error- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hired thugs for the likes of The Freak or his boyfriend???
Totally unnecessary and huge overkill. Equivalent to using a baseball
bat to kill a fly.

Wayne.B November 17th 11 01:00 PM

A nice apple story
 
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:18:02 -0500, wrote:

The 33xx drives just failed hard but they really didn't fail that
often. Most failures didn't actually lose data unless you had a head
crash.


===

Once your DASD farm got up to 1,000 plus drives of slightly aging
33xx's, unit failures became almost a weekly occurrence, each one
requiring a huge amount of time and effort to recover the data.


JustWait November 17th 11 01:42 PM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/17/2011 6:10 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 10:54 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/11/2011 7:53 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I can buy multiple PCs for the price of one Mac. The PCs run Solaris,
Linux, VirtualBox and Win7 all at once.

And if you mean those under powered little crappy Macs, you get what
you
pay for. Plus in Canada, they don't price them fairly, about 30% more
expensive here. So I boycott the idiots.

Granted, BSD UNIX is better, but I run that in a VM.


That you run cheesy PC's is no concern of mine. My work requires a good
word processor, a good email client, good software to prepare
presentations, and web creation and editing suites, and some other
mainstream business software, All of that runs nicely on my iMac and
Macbook Pro.


OpenOffice
Thunderbird
Firefox
GIMP
KompoZer
Wireshark
VirtualBox
PGP and more.


Dozens of others.


I can run open office, t'bird, firefox, gimp, PGP, kompozer, and
probably virtual box under VM. So what's your point?


His point is that he isn't stuck with a proprietary, overpriced nintendo...

JustWait November 17th 11 01:43 PM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/17/2011 6:10 AM, Drifter wrote:
On 11/17/2011 6:08 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 10:09 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 9:49 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 9:12 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 8:34 PM, Honey Badger wrote:
North Star wrote:
I did.... I gave him a location, date and percise time.

WTF is percise, spelling pro?

-HB

He's drooling again. Looks like their plan was to make ridiculous no
compromise offers they knew nobody would take....


Don and I made simple, straightforward offers. Your son iLoogy was
unable to meet the simple conditions because, like you, he's a coward.

No you didn't. You set all kinds of rules that would suggest a straight
up ambush from loser goons, or cops which is the probable course a
coward like you would take... We know you are dying to use your widdew
capgun on somebody, anybody... Karen better watch out.



All kinds of rules?

You mean:

No meeting without advance notice
Prior and proper identification mandatory
Meet *here*
No weapons

Hey, I know life for you is a mystery, but the conditions offered were
simple and straightforward.


You forgot to mention your hired thugs.


Such an obvious setup. As soon as he makes plans by email as harry
requires, shows up and shows his id, he is gonna' be arrested and we all
know it...

JustWait November 17th 11 01:44 PM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/17/2011 7:55 AM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 17, 7:10 am, wrote:
On 11/17/2011 6:08 AM, X ` Man wrote:





On 11/16/11 10:09 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 9:49 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 9:12 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 8:34 PM, Honey Badger wrote:
North Star wrote:
I did.... I gave him a location, date and percise time.


WTF is percise, spelling pro?


-HB


He's drooling again. Looks like their plan was to make ridiculous no
compromise offers they knew nobody would take....


Don and I made simple, straightforward offers. Your son iLoogy was
unable to meet the simple conditions because, like you, he's a coward.


No you didn't. You set all kinds of rules that would suggest a straight
up ambush from loser goons, or cops which is the probable course a
coward like you would take... We know you are dying to use your widdew
capgun on somebody, anybody... Karen better watch out.


All kinds of rules?


You mean:


No meeting without advance notice
Prior and proper identification mandatory
Meet *here*
No weapons


Hey, I know life for you is a mystery, but the conditions offered were
simple and straightforward.


You forgot to mention your hired thugs.

--
1-20-13 The end of an error- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hired thugs for the likes of The Freak or his boyfriend???
Totally unnecessary and huge overkill. Equivalent to using a baseball
bat to kill a fly.


And yet, you have been cowering from me for years! LOL!

Drifter[_2_] November 17th 11 01:50 PM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/17/2011 7:55 AM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 17, 7:10 am, wrote:
On 11/17/2011 6:08 AM, X ` Man wrote:





On 11/16/11 10:09 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 9:49 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 9:12 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 8:34 PM, Honey Badger wrote:
North Star wrote:
I did.... I gave him a location, date and percise time.


WTF is percise, spelling pro?


-HB


He's drooling again. Looks like their plan was to make ridiculous no
compromise offers they knew nobody would take....


Don and I made simple, straightforward offers. Your son iLoogy was
unable to meet the simple conditions because, like you, he's a coward..


No you didn't. You set all kinds of rules that would suggest a straight
up ambush from loser goons, or cops which is the probable course a
coward like you would take... We know you are dying to use your widdew
capgun on somebody, anybody... Karen better watch out.


All kinds of rules?


You mean:


No meeting without advance notice
Prior and proper identification mandatory
Meet *here*
No weapons


Hey, I know life for you is a mystery, but the conditions offered were
simple and straightforward.


You forgot to mention your hired thugs.

--
1-20-13 The end of an error- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hired thugs for the likes of The Freak or his boyfriend???
Totally unnecessary and huge overkill. Equivalent to using a baseball
bat to kill a fly.


Apparently Harry isn't man enough to accomplish the task on his own.
What part of Harry's quote do you not understand?

Harry said the following:
"It will be my pleasure to *have* the **** beat out of you. No
guns,
no knives, no clubs. And that will be the end of your posting here,
for
which I will receive a public service award."




--
1-20-13 The end of an error

North Star November 17th 11 01:53 PM

A nice apple story
 
On Nov 17, 9:44*am, JustWait wrote:
On 11/17/2011 7:55 AM, North Star wrote:





On Nov 17, 7:10 am, *wrote:
On 11/17/2011 6:08 AM, X ` Man wrote:


On 11/16/11 10:09 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 9:49 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 9:12 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 8:34 PM, Honey Badger wrote:
North Star wrote:
I did.... I gave him a location, date and percise time.


WTF is percise, spelling pro?


-HB


He's drooling again. Looks like their plan was to make ridiculous no
compromise offers they knew nobody would take....


Don and I made simple, straightforward offers. Your son iLoogy was
unable to meet the simple conditions because, like you, he's a coward.


No you didn't. You set all kinds of rules that would suggest a straight
up ambush from loser goons, or cops which is the probable course a
coward like you would take... We know you are dying to use your widdew
capgun on somebody, anybody... Karen better watch out.


All kinds of rules?


You mean:


No meeting without advance notice
Prior and proper identification mandatory
Meet *here*
No weapons


Hey, I know life for you is a mystery, but the conditions offered were
simple and straightforward.


You forgot to mention your hired thugs.


--
1-20-13 The end of an error- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Hired thugs for the likes of The Freak or his boyfriend???
Totally unnecessary and huge overkill. *Equivalent to using a baseball
bat to kill a fly.


And yet, you have been cowering from me for years! LOL!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Say what?
You are an amusing little man!

JustWait November 17th 11 01:54 PM

A nice apple story
 
On 11/17/2011 8:53 AM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:44 am, wrote:
On 11/17/2011 7:55 AM, North Star wrote:





On Nov 17, 7:10 am, wrote:
On 11/17/2011 6:08 AM, X ` Man wrote:


On 11/16/11 10:09 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 9:49 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 9:12 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/16/2011 8:34 PM, Honey Badger wrote:
North Star wrote:
I did.... I gave him a location, date and percise time.


WTF is percise, spelling pro?


-HB


He's drooling again. Looks like their plan was to make ridiculous no
compromise offers they knew nobody would take....


Don and I made simple, straightforward offers. Your son iLoogy was
unable to meet the simple conditions because, like you, he's a coward.


No you didn't. You set all kinds of rules that would suggest a straight
up ambush from loser goons, or cops which is the probable course a
coward like you would take... We know you are dying to use your widdew
capgun on somebody, anybody... Karen better watch out.


All kinds of rules?


You mean:


No meeting without advance notice
Prior and proper identification mandatory
Meet *here*
No weapons


Hey, I know life for you is a mystery, but the conditions offered were
simple and straightforward.


You forgot to mention your hired thugs.


--
1-20-13 The end of an error- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Hired thugs for the likes of The Freak or his boyfriend???
Totally unnecessary and huge overkill. Equivalent to using a baseball
bat to kill a fly.


And yet, you have been cowering from me for years! LOL!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Say what?
You are an amusing little man!


Yup, you said you were coming down here with your drunk son over a year
ago, and harry has hidden from more of us than even you...


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