In March, you Republicans said Obama didn't act quickly enough and with
enough force in going after Gaddafi.

Then when Obama acted, you said Obama acted too hastily, acted
unconstitutionally and needed to be impeached.

Today, you say Obama didn't act soon enough.

Pobrecitos. You can't handle the fact that **** gets done nowadays. In 6
months, Libya went from status quo to Gaddafi dead, something at which
Saint Ronny Raegan tried and failed. Osama bin Laden is dead, something
Dubya couldn't do in 8 years. Now, with US and NATO assistance, the
Libyan government has changed hands and Gaddafi is dead.

Just face it, Repubs, you suck at anything other than lowering taxes for
yourselves and bankrupting the United States. Maybe it's time for you to
sit the **** down, shut the **** up, and let the adults handle things.

Okay?

Okay.

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Swiped from KOS, and spot-on.

On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 19:12:03 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

In March, you Republicans said Obama didn't act quickly enough and with
enough force in going after Gaddafi.

Then when Obama acted, you said Obama acted too hastily, acted
unconstitutionally and needed to be impeached.

Today, you say Obama didn't act soon enough.

Pobrecitos. You can't handle the fact that **** gets done nowadays. In 6
months, Libya went from status quo to Gaddafi dead, something at which
Saint Ronny Raegan tried and failed. Osama bin Laden is dead, something
Dubya couldn't do in 8 years. Now, with US and NATO assistance, the
Libyan government has changed hands and Gaddafi is dead.

Just face it, Repubs, you suck at anything other than lowering taxes for
yourselves and bankrupting the United States. Maybe it's time for you to
sit the **** down, shut the **** up, and let the adults handle things.

Okay?

Okay.

---

Swiped from KOS, and spot-on.

No ****. They're excellent liars and incredibly good at getting
people to vote against their own best interests.

But they hate governing and do a ****ty job at it.

The only reason they want to be a part of it is to rip it apart.

On 20/10/2011 5:12 PM, X ` Man wrote:
In March, you Republicans said Obama didn't act quickly enough and with
enough force in going after Gaddafi.

Then when Obama acted, you said Obama acted too hastily, acted
unconstitutionally and needed to be impeached.

Today, you say Obama didn't act soon enough.

Pobrecitos. You can't handle the fact that **** gets done nowadays. In 6
months, Libya went from status quo to Gaddafi dead, something at which
Saint Ronny Raegan tried and failed. Osama bin Laden is dead, something
Dubya couldn't do in 8 years. Now, with US and NATO assistance, the
Libyan government has changed hands and Gaddafi is dead.

Just face it, Repubs, you suck at anything other than lowering taxes for
yourselves and bankrupting the United States. Maybe it's time for you to
sit the **** down, shut the **** up, and let the adults handle things.

Okay?

Okay.

---

Swiped from KOS, and spot-on.

I never once advocated assassination of Libya's by the USA or Canada. I
side with Ron Paul on this, we have no business being there.

Fact is the US-Euro Regime act of aggression. To by-pass congress, use
UN-NATO. Sort of dishonors the intent of some congressional/senate
legislation on war.

IMF debt extortion wouldn't work, Qaddafi ran the country with almost no
debt. In fact left behind assets. I wonder how much of the 144 tons of
gold is missing already. Certainly US-Euro Banks have shut down the no
debt Central Bank for Libya. Yep, he ran banks better than American
presidents (all).

Hey, I am no Qaddafi lover, but this was a 0bama political thing. Hand
shake 0bama one day, then assassination attempts begin that even kill
children. My guess is Qaddafi told 0bama to **** off.

So you fleaggars remember, 0bama opened up the can of worms and was the
first to endorse assassination of foreign counties leaders in the public
forum. As what goes around comes around. Memory will be short when
your own politicians get assassinated.

In fact 0bama has a totally unsubstantiated claim that Iran has tried
with a diplomat. But 0bama's attitude is do as I ask not as I do.

What a egomaniac hypocrite. Without a constitution and congress 0bama
doesn't take too seriously, 0bama would be a similar dictator.

So a new radical Islamic nation is born. Lots of vids on the revenge
murdering going on. And Egypt is no longer a democracy.

So who is 0bama the meddlesome going to march on next?
--
Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But
we have big huge government we can't afford...
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude

On 10/20/11 9:26 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 19:12:03 -0400, X `
wrote:

In March, you Republicans said Obama didn't act quickly enough and with
enough force in going after Gaddafi.

Then when Obama acted, you said Obama acted too hastily, acted
unconstitutionally and needed to be impeached.

Today, you say Obama didn't act soon enough.

Pobrecitos. You can't handle the fact that **** gets done nowadays. In 6
months, Libya went from status quo to Gaddafi dead, something at which
Saint Ronny Raegan tried and failed. Osama bin Laden is dead, something
Dubya couldn't do in 8 years. Now, with US and NATO assistance, the
Libyan government has changed hands and Gaddafi is dead.

The open question will be whether we are actually better off with him
gone. As the Clinton people used to say about Saddam, we had Qdaffy
"contained". (a lot more than Saddam)

This whole Arab Spring thing can still blow up in our face if these
guys don't turn out to be the peace loving people we hope they will
be. I can remember people talking about what a great guy Castro was
because he defeated that evil dictator Batista and how he was going to
bring freedom to the island.. That lasted about 6 weeks until Castro
said, "Oh wait. Maybe I am really a communist" (after denying it for
years) and started nationalizing the whole island. Two years later we
damned near had WWIII over Cuba.

This time it might be WWIII over Israel.

Fortunately, we didn't have an absolute dummy in the white house during
the cuban missle crisis. We did have an absolute dummy in the white
house from 2001 to January 2009. You know, the guy who started two wars
with countries not at war with us. That dummy.

On 10/20/2011 9:33 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/20/11 9:26 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 19:12:03 -0400, X `
wrote:

In March, you Republicans said Obama didn't act quickly enough and with
enough force in going after Gaddafi.

Then when Obama acted, you said Obama acted too hastily, acted
unconstitutionally and needed to be impeached.

Today, you say Obama didn't act soon enough.

Pobrecitos. You can't handle the fact that **** gets done nowadays. In 6
months, Libya went from status quo to Gaddafi dead, something at which
Saint Ronny Raegan tried and failed. Osama bin Laden is dead, something
Dubya couldn't do in 8 years. Now, with US and NATO assistance, the
Libyan government has changed hands and Gaddafi is dead.

The open question will be whether we are actually better off with him
gone. As the Clinton people used to say about Saddam, we had Qdaffy
"contained". (a lot more than Saddam)

This whole Arab Spring thing can still blow up in our face if these
guys don't turn out to be the peace loving people we hope they will
be. I can remember people talking about what a great guy Castro was
because he defeated that evil dictator Batista and how he was going to
bring freedom to the island.. That lasted about 6 weeks until Castro
said, "Oh wait. Maybe I am really a communist" (after denying it for
years) and started nationalizing the whole island. Two years later we
damned near had WWIII over Cuba.

This time it might be WWIII over Israel.

Fortunately, we didn't have an absolute dummy in the white house during
the cuban missle crisis. We did have an absolute dummy in the white
house from 2001 to January 2009. You know, the guy who started two wars
with countries not at war with us. That dummy.

You mean the dummy who is running around assassinating citizens without
a trial, killing foreign leaders, shooting at uniformed soldiers, they
shooting back, but we are not at war, that dummy. Yeah, he is a traitor
and has blown the constitution all to hell...

In article ,
says...

On 10/20/2011 9:33 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/20/11 9:26 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 19:12:03 -0400, X `
wrote:

In March, you Republicans said Obama didn't act quickly enough and with
enough force in going after Gaddafi.

Then when Obama acted, you said Obama acted too hastily, acted
unconstitutionally and needed to be impeached.

Today, you say Obama didn't act soon enough.

Pobrecitos. You can't handle the fact that **** gets done nowadays. In 6
months, Libya went from status quo to Gaddafi dead, something at which
Saint Ronny Raegan tried and failed. Osama bin Laden is dead, something
Dubya couldn't do in 8 years. Now, with US and NATO assistance, the
Libyan government has changed hands and Gaddafi is dead.

The open question will be whether we are actually better off with him
gone. As the Clinton people used to say about Saddam, we had Qdaffy
"contained". (a lot more than Saddam)

This whole Arab Spring thing can still blow up in our face if these
guys don't turn out to be the peace loving people we hope they will
be. I can remember people talking about what a great guy Castro was
because he defeated that evil dictator Batista and how he was going to
bring freedom to the island.. That lasted about 6 weeks until Castro
said, "Oh wait. Maybe I am really a communist" (after denying it for
years) and started nationalizing the whole island. Two years later we
damned near had WWIII over Cuba.

This time it might be WWIII over Israel.

Fortunately, we didn't have an absolute dummy in the white house during
the cuban missle crisis. We did have an absolute dummy in the white
house from 2001 to January 2009. You know, the guy who started two wars
with countries not at war with us. That dummy.

You mean the dummy who is running around assassinating citizens without
a trial, killing foreign leaders, shooting at uniformed soldiers, they
shooting back, but we are not at war, that dummy. Yeah, he is a traitor
and has blown the constitution all to hell...

No, Bush isn't president now.

On 10/21/2011 9:00 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 10/20/2011 9:33 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/20/11 9:26 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 19:12:03 -0400, X `
wrote:

In March, you Republicans said Obama didn't act quickly enough and with
enough force in going after Gaddafi.

Then when Obama acted, you said Obama acted too hastily, acted
unconstitutionally and needed to be impeached.

Today, you say Obama didn't act soon enough.

Pobrecitos. You can't handle the fact that **** gets done nowadays. In 6
months, Libya went from status quo to Gaddafi dead, something at which
Saint Ronny Raegan tried and failed. Osama bin Laden is dead, something
Dubya couldn't do in 8 years. Now, with US and NATO assistance, the
Libyan government has changed hands and Gaddafi is dead.

The open question will be whether we are actually better off with him
gone. As the Clinton people used to say about Saddam, we had Qdaffy
"contained". (a lot more than Saddam)

This whole Arab Spring thing can still blow up in our face if these
guys don't turn out to be the peace loving people we hope they will
be. I can remember people talking about what a great guy Castro was
because he defeated that evil dictator Batista and how he was going to
bring freedom to the island.. That lasted about 6 weeks until Castro
said, "Oh wait. Maybe I am really a communist" (after denying it for
years) and started nationalizing the whole island. Two years later we
damned near had WWIII over Cuba.

This time it might be WWIII over Israel.

Fortunately, we didn't have an absolute dummy in the white house during
the cuban missle crisis. We did have an absolute dummy in the white
house from 2001 to January 2009. You know, the guy who started two wars
with countries not at war with us. That dummy.

You mean the dummy who is running around assassinating citizens without
a trial, killing foreign leaders, shooting at uniformed soldiers, they
shooting back, but we are not at war, that dummy. Yeah, he is a traitor
and has blown the constitution all to hell...

No, Bush isn't president now.

He wasn't talking about Bush.

On 10/21/2011 9:44 AM, Drifter wrote:
On 10/21/2011 9:00 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 10/20/2011 9:33 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/20/11 9:26 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 19:12:03 -0400, X `
wrote:

In March, you Republicans said Obama didn't act quickly enough and
with
enough force in going after Gaddafi.

Then when Obama acted, you said Obama acted too hastily, acted
unconstitutionally and needed to be impeached.

Today, you say Obama didn't act soon enough.

Pobrecitos. You can't handle the fact that **** gets done
nowadays. In 6
months, Libya went from status quo to Gaddafi dead, something at
which
Saint Ronny Raegan tried and failed. Osama bin Laden is dead,
something
Dubya couldn't do in 8 years. Now, with US and NATO assistance, the
Libyan government has changed hands and Gaddafi is dead.

The open question will be whether we are actually better off with him
gone. As the Clinton people used to say about Saddam, we had Qdaffy
"contained". (a lot more than Saddam)

This whole Arab Spring thing can still blow up in our face if these
guys don't turn out to be the peace loving people we hope they will
be. I can remember people talking about what a great guy Castro was
because he defeated that evil dictator Batista and how he was going to
bring freedom to the island.. That lasted about 6 weeks until Castro
said, "Oh wait. Maybe I am really a communist" (after denying it for
years) and started nationalizing the whole island. Two years later we
damned near had WWIII over Cuba.

This time it might be WWIII over Israel.

Fortunately, we didn't have an absolute dummy in the white house during
the cuban missle crisis. We did have an absolute dummy in the white
house from 2001 to January 2009. You know, the guy who started two wars
with countries not at war with us. That dummy.

You mean the dummy who is running around assassinating citizens without
a trial, killing foreign leaders, shooting at uniformed soldiers, they
shooting back, but we are not at war, that dummy. Yeah, he is a traitor
and has blown the constitution all to hell...

No, Bush isn't president now.

He wasn't talking about Bush.

I have given up on that one, she can't read...

In article m,
says...

On 10/21/2011 9:00 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 10/20/2011 9:33 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/20/11 9:26 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 19:12:03 -0400, X `
wrote:

In March, you Republicans said Obama didn't act quickly enough and with
enough force in going after Gaddafi.

Then when Obama acted, you said Obama acted too hastily, acted
unconstitutionally and needed to be impeached.

Today, you say Obama didn't act soon enough.

Pobrecitos. You can't handle the fact that **** gets done nowadays. In 6
months, Libya went from status quo to Gaddafi dead, something at which
Saint Ronny Raegan tried and failed. Osama bin Laden is dead, something
Dubya couldn't do in 8 years. Now, with US and NATO assistance, the
Libyan government has changed hands and Gaddafi is dead.

The open question will be whether we are actually better off with him
gone. As the Clinton people used to say about Saddam, we had Qdaffy
"contained". (a lot more than Saddam)

This whole Arab Spring thing can still blow up in our face if these
guys don't turn out to be the peace loving people we hope they will
be. I can remember people talking about what a great guy Castro was
because he defeated that evil dictator Batista and how he was going to
bring freedom to the island.. That lasted about 6 weeks until Castro
said, "Oh wait. Maybe I am really a communist" (after denying it for
years) and started nationalizing the whole island. Two years later we
damned near had WWIII over Cuba.

This time it might be WWIII over Israel.

Fortunately, we didn't have an absolute dummy in the white house during
the cuban missle crisis. We did have an absolute dummy in the white
house from 2001 to January 2009. You know, the guy who started two wars
with countries not at war with us. That dummy.

You mean the dummy who is running around assassinating citizens without
a trial, killing foreign leaders, shooting at uniformed soldiers, they
shooting back, but we are not at war, that dummy. Yeah, he is a traitor
and has blown the constitution all to hell...

No, Bush isn't president now.

He wasn't talking about Bush.

Sure fooled me!

"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...


Fortunately, we didn't have an absolute dummy in the white house during
the cuban missle crisis. We did have an absolute dummy in the white
house from 2001 to January 2009. You know, the guy who started two wars
with countries not at war with us. That dummy.

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I am old enough to remember well the Cuban missile crisis and watching JFK
on television announcing the blockade.
It turns out he made the right choice of his options but most historians
agree that we were never closer to WWIII.
It could have gone another way. Khrushchev also got much of what he wanted
in under reported, secret negotiations.

I think many are too quick to condemn Bush for some of his decisions and
seem to forget that forcing Saddam Hussein
from power was not without at least 6 months of international discussion and
debate in the UN. Hussein was becoming increasingly more
defiant of the resolutions imposed by the international community (UN)
following his invasion of Kuwait, firing on
aircraft patrolling the "no fly" zone, etc. I am sure there was some
pressure from other nations as well to keep him in check.

We can only speculate on what actions Hussein would have taken if he was not
confronted. If Bush had done nothing and
Hussein had become more aggressive again, internally and with neighbors,
Bush would be regarded as a dummy for not doing anything rather than being a
dummy for the action he took. Tough job, being POTUS. I surely would
never want it.

President Obama rightly deserves some credit for helping rid the world of
Gaddafi. Hussein was also a war mongering
dictator who ruled by imposing terror on Iraqi citizens who didn't pledge
their allegiance to him. So why is Bush a dummy
and Obama a hero?

The argument that Obama took a "back seat" role versus a major military
action doesn't hold up. Different situations, different
difficulties and challenges.