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In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant
revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. |
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On Oct 17, 7:30*am, X ` Man wrote:
In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Maybe the gov't should confiscate their 'proceeds of crime' and give it back to those they stole from... the aerage citizen. |
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On Oct 17, 5:30*am, X ` Man wrote:
In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Wiki gives credit of the story to one Jean La Bel, but I thought this line was interesting: "The peasants involved in the rebellion seem to have lacked any real organization, instead rising up locally as an unstructured mass. It is speculated by Jean le Bel that evil governors and tax collectors spread the word of rebellion from village to village to inspire the peasants to rebel against the nobility. When asked as to the cause of their discontent they apparently replied that they were just doing what they had witnessed others doing. Additionally it seems that the rebellion contained some idea that it was possible to rid the world of nobles. Froissart's account portrays the rebels as mindless thugs bent on destruction, which they wreaked on over 150 noble houses and castles, murdering the families in horrendous ways." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie#The_uprising |
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On 10/17/11 8:22 AM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 17, 5:30 am, X ` wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Wiki gives credit of the story to one Jean La Bel, but I thought this line was interesting: "The peasants involved in the rebellion seem to have lacked any real organization, instead rising up locally as an unstructured mass. It is speculated by Jean le Bel that evil governors and tax collectors spread the word of rebellion from village to village to inspire the peasants to rebel against the nobility. When asked as to the cause of their discontent they apparently replied that they were just doing what they had witnessed others doing. Additionally it seems that the rebellion contained some idea that it was possible to rid the world of nobles. Froissart's account portrays the rebels as mindless thugs bent on destruction, which they wreaked on over 150 noble houses and castles, murdering the families in horrendous ways." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie#The_uprising In the 14th Century, the serfs had every reason to murder nobles. They still do. |
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On Oct 17, 7:30*am, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/17/11 8:22 AM, Tim wrote: On Oct 17, 5:30 am, X ` *wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. |
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On 10/17/11 8:41 AM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 17, 7:30 am, X ` wrote: On 10/17/11 8:22 AM, Tim wrote: On Oct 17, 5:30 am, X ` wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Wiki gives credit of the story to one Jean La Bel, but I thought this line was interesting: "The peasants involved in the rebellion seem to have lacked any real organization, instead rising up locally as an unstructured mass. It is speculated by Jean le Bel that evil governors and tax collectors spread the word of rebellion from village to village to inspire the peasants to rebel against the nobility. When asked as to the cause of their discontent they apparently replied that they were just doing what they had witnessed others doing. Additionally it seems that the rebellion contained some idea that it was possible to rid the world of nobles. Froissart's account portrays the rebels as mindless thugs bent on destruction, which they wreaked on over 150 noble houses and castles, murdering the families in horrendous ways." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie#The_uprising In the 14th Century, the serfs had every reason to murder nobles. They still do. Harry, nobody has the right to 'murder' anyone... In the 14th Century, the nobility murdered just about anyone it pleased, and with impunity. Since the serfs had no justice whatsoever available to them, turnabout was seen as fair play. Even in this country and in this century, we have official murder. Some may say that those killed in wars or by the executioner are not murdered, but "the state" will say anything to justify its actions. |
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On 10/17/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote:
In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Lets hope a similar fate doesn't come to your doorstep. |
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On 10/17/2011 7:38 AM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 17, 7:30 am, X ` wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Maybe the gov't should confiscate their 'proceeds of crime' and give it back to those they stole from... the aerage citizen. "Aerage" citizen mr. spelling ferret? |
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On 10/17/2011 9:03 AM, Drifter wrote:
On 10/17/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Lets hope a similar fate doesn't come to your doorstep. The astroturf in NYC has received almost 300,000 in aid from around the world. Guess what they did with the money? You got it, they put it in a bank!! LOL! NYC is the new CanCun... Yeah, spring break, in September! |
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On 10/17/2011 2:23 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:35:40 -0400, X ` wrote: On 10/17/11 12:57 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:03:32 -0400, wrote: On 10/17/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Lets hope a similar fate doesn't come to your doorstep. Harry is well armed and prepared to shoot any serf who comes to get his stuff because he has more than they do, ;-) Since I am fairly well-known "in these here parts" as a liberal and as a supporter of trade unionism, I doubt the Wall Street protestors will be breaking down my door. I'm only armed and dangerous when little twerps with ponytails try to break in... That sounds like the people I see on CNN from the OWS crowd. Same ideology... |
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says... On 10/17/11 12:57 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:03:32 -0400, wrote: On 10/17/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Lets hope a similar fate doesn't come to your doorstep. Harry is well armed and prepared to shoot any serf who comes to get his stuff because he has more than they do, ;-) Since I am fairly well-known "in these here parts" as a liberal and as a supporter of trade unionism, I doubt the Wall Street protestors will be breaking down my door. I'm only armed and dangerous when little twerps with ponytails try to break in... Coward. |
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Drifter wrote:
On 10/17/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Lets hope a similar fate doesn't come to your doorstep. Not likely -- Sent from my iPhone. |
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Drifter wrote:
On 10/17/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Lets hope a similar fate doesn't come to your doorstep. Not likely. -- Sent from my iPhone. |
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X ' Man wrote:
Drifter wrote: On 10/17/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Lets hope a similar fate doesn't come to your doorstep. Not likely. Don't get excited...haven't figured out filters yet on this app... Soon as I do you go back in the ****can. -- Sent from my iPhone. |
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On 17/10/2011 4:30 AM, X ` Man wrote:
In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. They already pay a higher tax rate. You should have worked harder and saved more and you would understand. Smart rich are leaving the USA, let the fleabaggers have nothing. Nice thing about todays money they didn't have in 1358 is it can be moved in seconds. Fact is these fleabaggers are lead by theory own envy and greed. In the end thy will loose. -- Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But we have big huge government we can't afford... -- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude |
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On 17/10/2011 5:38 AM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 17, 7:30 am, X ` wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Maybe the gov't should confiscate their 'proceeds of crime' and give it back to those they stole from... the aerage citizen. Can the government confiscate its own wealth? Not really, government consumes it like a leach on the productive. Keep on sucking and consuming. Fact is government is saddling massive amounts of debts to bailout corrupt companies and provide you, your kids and grand kids with debt-tax slavery. Government can't solve this problem because government is the problem. -- Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But we have big huge government we can't afford... -- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude |
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On 17/10/2011 8:21 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/17/2011 7:38 AM, North Star wrote: On Oct 17, 7:30 am, X ` wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Maybe the gov't should confiscate their 'proceeds of crime' and give it back to those they stole from... the aerage citizen. "Aerage" citizen mr. spelling ferret? Excellent point. But the average citizen is increasingly a debt-tax slave to government. There isn't that many rich to tax that much. The total wealth of all of the USA billionaires couldn't fund 0bama's debt for one year. Fact is 0bama is enslaving America with debt for fraud and corruption at government and top level banks like Bernanke. Bleeding America dry from the inside. -- Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But we have big huge government we can't afford... -- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude |
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On 17/10/2011 6:22 AM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 17, 5:30 am, X ` wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Wiki gives credit of the story to one Jean La Bel, but I thought this line was interesting: "The peasants involved in the rebellion seem to have lacked any real organization, instead rising up locally as an unstructured mass. It is speculated by Jean le Bel that evil governors and tax collectors spread the word of rebellion from village to village to inspire the peasants to rebel against the nobility. When asked as to the cause of their discontent they apparently replied that they were just doing what they had witnessed others doing. Additionally it seems that the rebellion contained some idea that it was possible to rid the world of nobles. Froissart's account portrays the rebels as mindless thugs bent on destruction, which they wreaked on over 150 noble houses and castles, murdering the families in horrendous ways." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie#The_uprising No different than today, lots of sheeples. Envy, greed and low morals, bad things happen. -- Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But we have big huge government we can't afford... -- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude |
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On 17/10/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/17/11 8:22 AM, Tim wrote: On Oct 17, 5:30 am, X ` wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Wiki gives credit of the story to one Jean La Bel, but I thought this line was interesting: "The peasants involved in the rebellion seem to have lacked any real organization, instead rising up locally as an unstructured mass. It is speculated by Jean le Bel that evil governors and tax collectors spread the word of rebellion from village to village to inspire the peasants to rebel against the nobility. When asked as to the cause of their discontent they apparently replied that they were just doing what they had witnessed others doing. Additionally it seems that the rebellion contained some idea that it was possible to rid the world of nobles. Froissart's account portrays the rebels as mindless thugs bent on destruction, which they wreaked on over 150 noble houses and castles, murdering the families in horrendous ways." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie#The_uprising In the 14th Century, the serfs had every reason to murder nobles. They still do. Didn't change a thing did it. Fact is fleabagger liberals can discard integrity, loose morals, driven by no diciline but for envy and greed.... .....but reality always wins. -- Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But we have big huge government we can't afford... -- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude |
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On 10/17/2011 3:38 PM, X ' Man wrote:
wrote: On 10/17/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Lets hope a similar fate doesn't come to your doorstep. Not likely. Could happen. Po folk like me are envious of your toys and wealth. No tellin what folks will do when they are hungry, cold, and homeless. Might be a good time to stop braggin about your "stuff" if you catch my drift. |
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On 10/17/2011 3:58 PM, X ' Man wrote:
X ' wrote: wrote: On 10/17/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Lets hope a similar fate doesn't come to your doorstep. Not likely. Don't get excited...haven't figured out filters yet on this app... Soon as I do you go back in the ****can. Why don't you get Scott to help you? He knows how to apply filters. |
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On 10/17/2011 4:09 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/10/2011 4:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. They already pay a higher tax rate. You should have worked harder and saved more and you would understand. Smart rich are leaving the USA, let the fleabaggers have nothing. Nice thing about todays money they didn't have in 1358 is it can be moved in seconds. Fact is these fleabaggers are lead by theory own envy and greed. In the end thy will loose. He'd leave except for one thing. His little darlin has a pretty decent job at union headquarters. He won't admit it but that's what lured him away from Florida. Can you imagine? |
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On 17/10/2011 11:28 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:03:32 -0400, wrote: On 10/17/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Lets hope a similar fate doesn't come to your doorstep. Harry is well armed and prepared to shoot any serf who comes to get his stuff because he has more than they do, ;-) I know it sounds attractive to go loot the rich but the reality is, they are not that rich. If you took every dime from the top 10 richest people in the US, it would run Medicare for about 145 days, then what? There would be no more Microsoft, Oracle, Walmart, Georgia Pacific, the Sands chain of casinos and whatever Soros and Buffett do. You would have thrown a quarter of a million people out of work for what? Five months of medical care for geezers? Just like in society in general, the wealth starts dropping off pretty fast on the top 400 too. By the time you get down to #31-32 you are in singlebillion dollar digits. Bear in mind, most of this money is unrealized capital gains that would disappear as soon as you tried to cash the check anyway. If you suddenly tried to sell 600 million shares of Microsoft, what do you think you would get for it? It certainly wouldn't be the $17 billion Forbes says it is worth to Bill Gates. The flaw in the above is that I know of no one who thinks we should take all of the money from all of the corps. It would be a good thing if they started paying there fair share though. They already pay plenty, and provide jobs that pay more. Fact is envy and greed driven fleabaggers are milking dead cows here. -- Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But we have big huge government we can't afford... -- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude |
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Drifter wrote:
On 10/17/2011 4:09 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 17/10/2011 4:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. They already pay a higher tax rate. You should have worked harder and saved more and you would understand. Smart rich are leaving the USA, let the fleabaggers have nothing. Nice thing about todays money they didn't have in 1358 is it can be moved in seconds. Fact is these fleabaggers are lead by theory own envy and greed. In the end thy will loose. He'd leave except for one thing. His little darlin has a pretty decent job at union headquarters. He won't admit it but that's what lured him away from Florida. Can you imagine? Your imagination is leading you astray -- Sent from my iPhone. |
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Drifter wrote:
On 10/17/2011 3:58 PM, X ' Man wrote: X ' wrote: wrote: On 10/17/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Lets hope a similar fate doesn't come to your doorstep. Not likely. Don't get excited...haven't figured out filters yet on this app... Soon as I do you go back in the ****can. Why don't you get Scott to help you? He knows how to apply filters. scott can't filter a cup of java -- Sent from my iPhone. |
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On 17/10/2011 12:22 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:28:56 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:03:32 -0400, wrote: On 10/17/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Lets hope a similar fate doesn't come to your doorstep. Harry is well armed and prepared to shoot any serf who comes to get his stuff because he has more than they do, ;-) I know it sounds attractive to go loot the rich but the reality is, they are not that rich. If you took every dime from the top 10 richest people in the US, it would run Medicare for about 145 days, then what? There would be no more Microsoft, Oracle, Walmart, Georgia Pacific, the Sands chain of casinos and whatever Soros and Buffett do. You would have thrown a quarter of a million people out of work for what? Five months of medical care for geezers? Just like in society in general, the wealth starts dropping off pretty fast on the top 400 too. By the time you get down to #31-32 you are in singlebillion dollar digits. Bear in mind, most of this money is unrealized capital gains that would disappear as soon as you tried to cash the check anyway. If you suddenly tried to sell 600 million shares of Microsoft, what do you think you would get for it? It certainly wouldn't be the $17 billion Forbes says it is worth to Bill Gates. The flaw in the above is that I know of no one who thinks we should take all of the money from all of the corps. It would be a good thing if they started paying there fair share though. I have to problem getting more but I also understand it is not a panacea. All you have to do is look at the Bush/Obama tax cut. $70 billion went to the $250k+ gang and the remaining $300 billion went to those making less than $250k. $70 billion really only represents a half of one percent of the interest on our national debt. So what part of $70 billion to $15 trillion do you think is worth much? Are you sure your not being penny wise and pound foolish for the envy? Just a 0bama sheep puppet? Think, the problem is DC corruption and political greed. Government can't solve the problem because government is the problem. This depression and economic certainty startd in 2007 with Bernanke and the Democratic congress, so why no results since then? Because government is the problem. Government refuses to admit it is the problem because that would mean government has to shrink to fit what the economy can support in sustainability. And how dare the American government shrink to help the people and economy to get on its feet when Bernanke can just print more money for more debt-tax slavery. When the fleabaggers wake up to the facts, and liberalism fails them, they will awake as a new more rational animal, something the government really fears. In the mean time it is about milking the herd for statism. -- Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But we have big huge government we can't afford... -- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude |
Real Class Warfare
On 17/10/2011 11:35 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/17/11 12:57 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:03:32 -0400, wrote: On 10/17/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Lets hope a similar fate doesn't come to your doorstep. Harry is well armed and prepared to shoot any serf who comes to get his stuff because he has more than they do, ;-) Since I am fairly well-known "in these here parts" as a liberal and as a supporter of trade unionism, I doubt the Wall Street protestors will be breaking down my door. I'm only armed and dangerous when little twerps with ponytails try to break in... Envy and greed takes no prisoners. The more you have, the more you are a target. Doesn't even mater how you accumulated more, earned, inherited, investing...doesn't mater a ****. The envy, the greedy hit your street your no different than the rest of your neighbors. So make sure the rifles and glocks are well oiled and the shells fresh. -- Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But we have big huge government we can't afford... -- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude |
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On 17/10/2011 12:23 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:35:40 -0400, X ` wrote: On 10/17/11 12:57 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:03:32 -0400, wrote: On 10/17/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Lets hope a similar fate doesn't come to your doorstep. Harry is well armed and prepared to shoot any serf who comes to get his stuff because he has more than they do, ;-) Since I am fairly well-known "in these here parts" as a liberal and as a supporter of trade unionism, I doubt the Wall Street protestors will be breaking down my door. I'm only armed and dangerous when little twerps with ponytails try to break in... That sounds like the people I see on CNN from the OWS crowd. CNN is a dripping wet liberal-socialism farce propaganda machine. -- Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But we have big huge government we can't afford... -- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude |
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On 10/17/2011 4:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/10/2011 12:23 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:35:40 -0400, X ` wrote: On 10/17/11 12:57 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:03:32 -0400, wrote: On 10/17/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Lets hope a similar fate doesn't come to your doorstep. Harry is well armed and prepared to shoot any serf who comes to get his stuff because he has more than they do, ;-) Since I am fairly well-known "in these here parts" as a liberal and as a supporter of trade unionism, I doubt the Wall Street protestors will be breaking down my door. I'm only armed and dangerous when little twerps with ponytails try to break in... That sounds like the people I see on CNN from the OWS crowd. CNN is a dripping wet liberal-socialism farce propaganda machine. Not nearly as bad as MSNBC, or PBS. CNN lies by omission, the other two just make it up as they go along... |
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On 17/10/2011 3:08 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/17/2011 4:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 17/10/2011 12:23 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:35:40 -0400, X ` wrote: On 10/17/11 12:57 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:03:32 -0400, wrote: On 10/17/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Lets hope a similar fate doesn't come to your doorstep. Harry is well armed and prepared to shoot any serf who comes to get his stuff because he has more than they do, ;-) Since I am fairly well-known "in these here parts" as a liberal and as a supporter of trade unionism, I doubt the Wall Street protestors will be breaking down my door. I'm only armed and dangerous when little twerps with ponytails try to break in... That sounds like the people I see on CNN from the OWS crowd. CNN is a dripping wet liberal-socialism farce propaganda machine. Not nearly as bad as MSNBC, or PBS. CNN lies by omission, the other two just make it up as they go along... Get a kick out of Anderson 360 idiot. Will spend 3 weeks on bulling, no end on picking on Tea Party or GOP, but not 5 minutes on 0bama bully bully persecution of rich or companies. The man is a flipping fleabagger idiot. BBC is a whole lot better. PBS is pretty watered down here. MSNBC, don't even know if we get it. I really don't watch much TV, much preferring the Internet where liberals, socialists and government propaganda isn't pounding us with brainwashing. -- Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But we have big huge government we can't afford... -- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude |
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On 17/10/2011 2:27 PM, Drifter wrote:
On 10/17/2011 4:09 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 17/10/2011 4:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. They already pay a higher tax rate. You should have worked harder and saved more and you would understand. Smart rich are leaving the USA, let the fleabaggers have nothing. Nice thing about todays money they didn't have in 1358 is it can be moved in seconds. Fact is these fleabaggers are lead by theory own envy and greed. In the end thy will loose. He'd leave except for one thing. His little darlin has a pretty decent job at union headquarters. He won't admit it but that's what lured him away from Florida. Can you imagine? Yep, needs to be located in a district loaded with sexual offenders in the low end of town. -- Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But we have big huge government we can't afford... -- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude |
Real Class Warfare
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, says... Drifter wrote: On 10/17/2011 4:09 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 17/10/2011 4:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. They already pay a higher tax rate. You should have worked harder and saved more and you would understand. Smart rich are leaving the USA, let the fleabaggers have nothing. Nice thing about todays money they didn't have in 1358 is it can be moved in seconds. Fact is these fleabaggers are lead by theory own envy and greed. In the end thy will loose. He'd leave except for one thing. His little darlin has a pretty decent job at union headquarters. He won't admit it but that's what lured him away from Florida. Can you imagine? Your imagination is leading you astray Crap, he's posting from his iPhone now. |
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Krausie wrote: Since I am fairly well-known "in these here parts"
as .... ___________ Is that a fact, Krausie? I'll bet you're also known in them there parts as a lying, psychotic, free loading gas bag. |
Real Class Warfare
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:23:23 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:35:40 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 10/17/11 12:57 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:03:32 -0400, wrote: On 10/17/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Lets hope a similar fate doesn't come to your doorstep. Harry is well armed and prepared to shoot any serf who comes to get his stuff because he has more than they do, ;-) Since I am fairly well-known "in these here parts" as a liberal and as a supporter of trade unionism, I doubt the Wall Street protestors will be breaking down my door. I'm only armed and dangerous when little twerps with ponytails try to break in... That sounds like the people I see on CNN from the OWS crowd. You're wrong. First, most of them are educated. Second, there's a lot of people who've been left out of this economy that used to have a place. Not poor folk, but lower middle, middle and even upper middle class who can no longer earn a living. |
Real Class Warfare
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:52:47 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:16:06 -0700, jps wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:23:23 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:35:40 -0400, X ` Man I'm only armed and dangerous when little twerps with ponytails try to break in... That sounds like the people I see on CNN from the OWS crowd. You're wrong. First, most of them are educated. There are plenty of educated people with pony tails, including the professors who taught them. But not the little freak to which Harry refers. Second, there's a lot of people who've been left out of this economy that used to have a place. Not poor folk, but lower middle, middle and even upper middle class who can no longer earn a living. Times are tough for a lot of people but I do not see any solutions coming from these protestors, nor from the government. They should be protesting in front of the companies that offshored all the jobs if they are mad about being out of work. Maybe they should be protesting all the consumers who choose a cheap price over a "made in USA" label. Of course they could go protest the university that sent them out into the world with a useless degree and a $100,000 student loan bill. They're not there to provide answers but to call attention to the pain. Those who fail to answer the call will be left to defend themselves when push comes to shove. |
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