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iBoaterer[_2_] October 19th 11 03:57 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
In article ,
says...

On 10/19/2011 10:27 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:16 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:15 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 8:05 AM, BAR wrote:
In raweb.com,
says...

On 10/18/2011 7:53 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/18/11 6:54 AM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 17, 7:52 am, X ` wrote:
On 10/17/11 8:41 AM, Tim wrote:









On Oct 17, 7:30 am, X ` wrote:
On 10/17/11 8:22 AM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 17, 5:30 am, X ` wrote:
In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a
peasant
revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants
attacked
and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there
and
roasted
him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of
the
serfs
raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and
then
they
forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they
killed her.

Now that is serious class warfare.

Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this
country
should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the
"French"
treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial
chiefs
would
provide quicker results.

Wiki gives credit of the story to one Jean La Bel, but I
thought this
line was interesting:

"The peasants involved in the rebellion seem to have lacked any
real
organization, instead rising up locally as an unstructured
mass.
It is
speculated by Jean le Bel that evil governors and tax
collectors
spread the word of rebellion from village to village to inspire
the
peasants to rebel against the nobility. When asked as to the
cause of
their discontent they apparently replied that they were just
doing
what they had witnessed others doing. Additionally it seems
that the
rebellion contained some idea that it was possible to rid the
world of
nobles. Froissart's account portrays the rebels as mindless
thugs
bent
on destruction, which they wreaked on over 150 noble houses and
castles, murdering the families in horrendous ways."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie#The_uprising

In the 14th Century, the serfs had every reason to murder
nobles. They
still do.

Harry, nobody has the right to 'murder' anyone...

In the 14th Century, the nobility murdered just about anyone it
pleased,
and with impunity. Since the serfs had no justice whatsoever
available
to them, turnabout was seen as fair play.

Even in this country and in this century, we have official murder.
Some
may say that those killed in wars or by the executioner are not
murdered, but "the state" will say anything to justify its
actions.

Harry,. who do you have the right to murder, and who has the
right to
murder you?


Murder simply defined is *illegal* homicide. The country and many
states
engage in homicide and justify it by saying it was *legal*.
The state of course can make anything it likes legal, but that
doesn't
make it justified. Executions may be legal, but they are not
justified.
Killing of non-combatants in a war is murder.

The situation is different in a case of self-defense. I don't have
the
right to murder anyone, but I do have the legal and I think moral
right
to defend myself or my wife from intruders who break into the house
and
intend bodily harm. If that means shooting the intruders, so be it.

It's not the same as execution. The state has a choice. It can
warehouse
violent offenders until they die of old age. There are no such
alternative when dealing with a home invader.

You should know that all intruders are not murderers and rapists. You
better make sure you are targeted for bodily harm before you pull the
trigger. Your paranoia will work against you in defense of a
shooting.
Think about that, big boy.

When you point a gun at someone, like an intruder in your home, your
intention is to kill them not to interview them. If you are not aiming
for center mass you are in idiot.

Had a young guy walk into my house a few years back, at 1:30 in the
morning.. I used a baseball bat to remove him, not a gun. Turns out he
was a escaped patient from a home down the street, and didn't know
where
he was... If Harry had had the same, a innocent person would be dead
instead of just having a broken rib...


We're smart enough down here to tell the difference between a little
**** intent on violence (like you) and someone suffering from a
non-violent mental disorder.

Bull****, when someone breaks down your door at 1:30 am, you don't take
time to check their intent.. but of course you have to defend your
cowardly ways, I get it...



It's fairly easy to tell a non-violent, unarmed, confused mental patient
from a hot-tempered, sawed-off little **** like you, Snotty. Even easier
when the lady of the house is a psychotherapist who did a year-old
internship at one of Florida's huge forensic mental hospitals, has
worked at several psych facilities, has been a licensed, practicing
psychotherapist for more than 15 years, and has been recognized by
courts in this area and several distant states as an expert witness.


Ha, ha.. More delusions of grandure.. It was dark, I was woken up by my
door coming down, three feet from my head as I napped on the couch...
And "the lady of your house" is probably as phony as your Yale degree...


But, but..... she worked for the Bricklayers Union and just now got her
doctorate from that fourth rate college and became Dr. Fourchin.

X ` Man October 19th 11 04:09 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/11 10:52 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:26 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:22 AM, Danny wrote:
On 10/19/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/18/11 4:36 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/10/2011 5:56 PM, BAR wrote:

Crap, he's posting from his iPhone now.

Made non-union in China too.

Unfortunately, most so-called "smart" phones, and most cell phones,
are
now assembled in the PRC, and many are manufactured there, too, even
Nokias. In the last couple of years, nearly all cell phone assembly
has
been "outsourced" to the PRC. My rule against buying merchandise from
the PRC is, "can I find a similar or better product manufactured
elsewhere?" Since most "smart" phones are coming out of the PRC, the
answer, sadly, is no.

More hypocritical excuses.

If you actually had a real conviction, you'd not use a cell phone.

Your "rule" is very self accommodating.

That is the progressive way, especially here in this group...



"Danny" must be one of your brothers, because he's obviously as dumb as
you are.



What do you care,



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE


Be careful, Snotty...or I'll edit the song to change the name of fiona.
:)



JustWait October 19th 11 04:19 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/2011 10:54 AM, X ` Man wrote:
You know, I'm not aware of an organization dedicated to converting
Christians into atheists. You don't either.


Sure I do, we all do, look at any University.. Besides, what do you
care, do you have something to add to the conversation or are you just
trolling again Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America? Do
you sit there all day long just waiting for someone you hate to post so
you can make a one line comment or insult them? Wow, great life you have
there... Does Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America, know
you have spent the last ten years here insulting and trolling the group
as HtheK, HKrause, HarryK, Paul, x-man, sometimes posting as many as 100
one line, insult/troll posts in one 24 hour period? Mr. Dr. Karen Grear
of Catholic University of America, you seem a lowlife parasite who
spends his days and nights sharing your hate and misery here an all over
then net. Anybody who has five minutes to look back at your posts over
the last ten years will see that. I feel sorry for you, get out of the
house man, step away from the keyboard...

Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America

X ` Man October 19th 11 04:20 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/11 11:19 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:54 AM, X ` Man wrote:
You know, I'm not aware of an organization dedicated to converting
Christians into atheists. You don't either.


Just admit it, Scotty...when it comes to identifying an atheist
organization dedicated to converting christians to atheism, the
honest answer is...

Scotty doesn't know.

When you made that claim, it was just more "Scotty bull****."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE



JustWait October 19th 11 04:21 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/2011 11:09 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:52 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:26 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:22 AM, Danny wrote:
On 10/19/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/18/11 4:36 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/10/2011 5:56 PM, BAR wrote:

Crap, he's posting from his iPhone now.

Made non-union in China too.

Unfortunately, most so-called "smart" phones, and most cell phones,
are
now assembled in the PRC, and many are manufactured there, too, even
Nokias. In the last couple of years, nearly all cell phone assembly
has
been "outsourced" to the PRC. My rule against buying merchandise from
the PRC is, "can I find a similar or better product manufactured
elsewhere?" Since most "smart" phones are coming out of the PRC, the
answer, sadly, is no.

More hypocritical excuses.

If you actually had a real conviction, you'd not use a cell phone.

Your "rule" is very self accommodating.

That is the progressive way, especially here in this group...


"Danny" must be one of your brothers, because he's obviously as dumb as
you are.



What do you care,



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE


Be careful, Snotty...or I'll edit the song to change the name of fiona. :)



Didn't listen, I would never click on a link from a known pedophile...
Remember, you stated here that your targeted advertizing showed you
dildoes and sex toys. I don't even want to know where a pedophile surfs,
much less, click on a link he posted...

Besides, what do you care, do you have something to add to the
conversation or are you just trolling again Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of
Catholic University of America? Do you sit there all day long just
waiting for someone you hate to post so you can make a one line comment
or insult them? Wow, great life you have there... Does Dr. Karen Grear
of Catholic University of America, know you have spent the last ten
years here insulting and trolling the group as HtheK, HKrause, HarryK,
Paul, x-man, sometimes posting as many as 100 one line, insult/troll
posts in one 24 hour period? Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University
of America, you seem a lowlife parasite who spends his days and nights
sharing your hate and misery here an all over then net. Anybody who has
five minutes to look back at your posts over the last ten years will see
that. I feel sorry for you, get out of the house man, step away from the
keyboard...

Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America


X ` Man October 19th 11 04:27 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/11 11:21 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 11:09 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:52 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:26 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:22 AM, Danny wrote:
On 10/19/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/18/11 4:36 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/10/2011 5:56 PM, BAR wrote:

Crap, he's posting from his iPhone now.

Made non-union in China too.

Unfortunately, most so-called "smart" phones, and most cell phones,
are
now assembled in the PRC, and many are manufactured there, too, even
Nokias. In the last couple of years, nearly all cell phone assembly
has
been "outsourced" to the PRC. My rule against buying merchandise
from
the PRC is, "can I find a similar or better product manufactured
elsewhere?" Since most "smart" phones are coming out of the PRC, the
answer, sadly, is no.

More hypocritical excuses.

If you actually had a real conviction, you'd not use a cell phone.

Your "rule" is very self accommodating.

That is the progressive way, especially here in this group...


"Danny" must be one of your brothers, because he's obviously as dumb as
you are.


What do you care,



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE


Be careful, Snotty...or I'll edit the song to change the name of
fiona. :)



Didn't listen, I would never click on a link from a known pedophile...
Remember, you stated here that your targeted advertizing showed you
dildoes and sex toys. I don't even want to know where a pedophile surfs,
much less, click on a link he posted...



Hehehe. You're projecting again. You don't see me putting up photos of
underaged pubescent children on Facebook and directing my "buddies" in
rec.boats to look at them.

So, you think sex toys are strictly the province of pedophiles, eh?

I'll bet your wife has a vibrator.

Scotty doesn't know...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE

JustWait October 19th 11 04:36 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/2011 11:27 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 11:21 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 11:09 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:52 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:26 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:22 AM, Danny wrote:
On 10/19/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/18/11 4:36 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/10/2011 5:56 PM, BAR wrote:

Crap, he's posting from his iPhone now.

Made non-union in China too.

Unfortunately, most so-called "smart" phones, and most cell phones,
are
now assembled in the PRC, and many are manufactured there, too,
even
Nokias. In the last couple of years, nearly all cell phone assembly
has
been "outsourced" to the PRC. My rule against buying merchandise
from
the PRC is, "can I find a similar or better product manufactured
elsewhere?" Since most "smart" phones are coming out of the PRC,
the
answer, sadly, is no.

More hypocritical excuses.

If you actually had a real conviction, you'd not use a cell phone.

Your "rule" is very self accommodating.

That is the progressive way, especially here in this group...


"Danny" must be one of your brothers, because he's obviously as
dumb as
you are.


What do you care,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE


Be careful, Snotty...or I'll edit the song to change the name of
fiona. :)



Didn't listen, I would never click on a link from a known pedophile...
Remember, you stated here that your targeted advertizing showed you
dildoes and sex toys. I don't even want to know where a pedophile surfs,
much less, click on a link he posted...



Hehehe. You're projecting again. You don't see me putting up photos of
underaged pubescent children on Facebook and directing my "buddies" in
rec.boats to look at them.

So, you think sex toys are strictly the province of pedophiles, eh?

I'll bet your wife has a vibrator.


Another lie by the coward of rec.boats.. This one is going directly to
the university...

If you ever decide to end it all, come and say that to my face you nasty
old ****er...What do you care, do you have something to add to the
conversation or are you just trolling again Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of
Catholic University of America? Do you sit there all day long just
waiting for someone you hate to post so you can make a one line comment
or insult them? Wow, great life you have there... Does Dr. Karen Grear
of Catholic University of America, know you have spent the last ten
years here insulting and trolling the group as HtheK, HKrause, HarryK,
Paul, x-man, sometimes posting as many as 100 one line, insult/troll
posts in one 24 hour period? Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University
of America, you seem a lowlife parasite who spends his days and nights
sharing your hate and misery here an all over then net. Anybody who has
five minutes to look back at your posts over the last ten years will see
that. I feel sorry for you, get out of the house man, step away from the
keyboard...

Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America

iBoaterer[_2_] October 19th 11 04:37 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
In article ,
says...

On 10/19/11 10:26 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:22 AM, Danny wrote:
On 10/19/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/18/11 4:36 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/10/2011 5:56 PM, BAR wrote:

Crap, he's posting from his iPhone now.

Made non-union in China too.

Unfortunately, most so-called "smart" phones, and most cell phones, are
now assembled in the PRC, and many are manufactured there, too, even
Nokias. In the last couple of years, nearly all cell phone assembly has
been "outsourced" to the PRC. My rule against buying merchandise from
the PRC is, "can I find a similar or better product manufactured
elsewhere?" Since most "smart" phones are coming out of the PRC, the
answer, sadly, is no.

More hypocritical excuses.

If you actually had a real conviction, you'd not use a cell phone.

Your "rule" is very self accommodating.


That is the progressive way, especially here in this group...



"Danny" must be one of your brothers, because he's obviously as dumb as
you are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE

Who knew Jason Bourne could sing?


That sure is some sophisticated and refined cultural stuff you like to
watch.

iBoaterer[_2_] October 19th 11 04:38 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
In article ,
says...

On 10/19/2011 10:54 AM, X ` Man wrote:
You know, I'm not aware of an organization dedicated to converting
Christians into atheists. You don't either.


Sure I do, we all do, look at any University.. .


Hooo BOY!!!!



X ` Man October 19th 11 04:39 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/11 11:36 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 11:27 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 11:21 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 11:09 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:52 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:26 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:22 AM, Danny wrote:
On 10/19/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/18/11 4:36 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/10/2011 5:56 PM, BAR wrote:

Crap, he's posting from his iPhone now.

Made non-union in China too.

Unfortunately, most so-called "smart" phones, and most cell
phones,
are
now assembled in the PRC, and many are manufactured there, too,
even
Nokias. In the last couple of years, nearly all cell phone
assembly
has
been "outsourced" to the PRC. My rule against buying merchandise
from
the PRC is, "can I find a similar or better product manufactured
elsewhere?" Since most "smart" phones are coming out of the PRC,
the
answer, sadly, is no.

More hypocritical excuses.

If you actually had a real conviction, you'd not use a cell phone.

Your "rule" is very self accommodating.

That is the progressive way, especially here in this group...


"Danny" must be one of your brothers, because he's obviously as
dumb as
you are.


What do you care,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE


Be careful, Snotty...or I'll edit the song to change the name of
fiona. :)



Didn't listen, I would never click on a link from a known pedophile...
Remember, you stated here that your targeted advertizing showed you
dildoes and sex toys. I don't even want to know where a pedophile surfs,
much less, click on a link he posted...



Hehehe. You're projecting again. You don't see me putting up photos of
underaged pubescent children on Facebook and directing my "buddies" in
rec.boats to look at them.

So, you think sex toys are strictly the province of pedophiles, eh?

I'll bet your wife has a vibrator.


Another lie by the coward of rec.boats.. This one is going directly to
the university...


Uh, last week you posted here that you put up on facebook photos of your
kid and some of her friends "hanging out."

So, what was the lie...that your wife doesn't have a vibrator?

Scotty doesn't know...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE




X ` Man October 19th 11 04:48 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/11 11:19 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:54 AM, X ` Man wrote:
You know, I'm not aware of an organization dedicated to converting
Christians into atheists. You don't either.


Sure I do, we all do, look at any University..



I see.

"Any university" (mean, of course, every university) is "dedicated" to
converting Christians into atheists.

That's way up there on the list of "The Dumbest Things Scott Ingersoll
Has Ever Posted."

You are an ignorant little fool, and your every post here demonstrates
"Scotty doesn't know."


JustWait October 19th 11 04:49 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/2011 11:39 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 11:36 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 11:27 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 11:21 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 11:09 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:52 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:26 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:22 AM, Danny wrote:
On 10/19/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/18/11 4:36 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/10/2011 5:56 PM, BAR wrote:

Crap, he's posting from his iPhone now.

Made non-union in China too.

Unfortunately, most so-called "smart" phones, and most cell
phones,
are
now assembled in the PRC, and many are manufactured there, too,
even
Nokias. In the last couple of years, nearly all cell phone
assembly
has
been "outsourced" to the PRC. My rule against buying merchandise
from
the PRC is, "can I find a similar or better product manufactured
elsewhere?" Since most "smart" phones are coming out of the PRC,
the
answer, sadly, is no.

More hypocritical excuses.

If you actually had a real conviction, you'd not use a cell phone.

Your "rule" is very self accommodating.

That is the progressive way, especially here in this group...


"Danny" must be one of your brothers, because he's obviously as
dumb as
you are.


What do you care,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE


Be careful, Snotty...or I'll edit the song to change the name of
fiona. :)



Didn't listen, I would never click on a link from a known pedophile...
Remember, you stated here that your targeted advertizing showed you
dildoes and sex toys. I don't even want to know where a pedophile
surfs,
much less, click on a link he posted...



Hehehe. You're projecting again. You don't see me putting up photos of
underaged pubescent children on Facebook and directing my "buddies" in
rec.boats to look at them.

So, you think sex toys are strictly the province of pedophiles, eh?

I'll bet your wife has a vibrator.


Another lie by the coward of rec.boats.. This one is going directly to
the university...


Uh, last week you posted here that you put up on facebook photos of your
kid and some of her friends "hanging out."

So, what was the lie...that your wife doesn't have a vibrator?


If you want to know, ask me to my face Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic
University of America. You are a sick bitch, What do you care, do you
have something to add to the conversation or are you just trolling again
Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America? Do you sit there
all day long just waiting for someone you hate to post so you can make a
one line comment or insult them? Wow, great life you have there... Does
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America, know you have spent
the last ten years here insulting and trolling the group as HtheK,
HKrause, HarryK, Paul, x-man, sometimes posting as many as 100 one line,
insult/troll posts in one 24 hour period? Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of
Catholic University of America, you seem a lowlife parasite who spends
his days and nights sharing your hate and misery here an all over then
net. Anybody who has five minutes to look back at your posts over the
last ten years will see that. I feel sorry for you, get out of the house
man, step away from the keyboard...

Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America


JustWait October 19th 11 04:50 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/2011 11:37 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlex_ednfN63tp8fQPTnZ2dnUVZ_vAAAAAA@earthlink .com,
says...

On 10/19/11 10:26 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:22 AM, Danny wrote:
On 10/19/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/18/11 4:36 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/10/2011 5:56 PM, BAR wrote:

Crap, he's posting from his iPhone now.

Made non-union in China too.

Unfortunately, most so-called "smart" phones, and most cell phones, are
now assembled in the PRC, and many are manufactured there, too, even
Nokias. In the last couple of years, nearly all cell phone assembly has
been "outsourced" to the PRC. My rule against buying merchandise from
the PRC is, "can I find a similar or better product manufactured
elsewhere?" Since most "smart" phones are coming out of the PRC, the
answer, sadly, is no.

More hypocritical excuses.

If you actually had a real conviction, you'd not use a cell phone.

Your "rule" is very self accommodating.

That is the progressive way, especially here in this group...



"Danny" must be one of your brothers, because he's obviously as dumb as
you are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE

Who knew Jason Bourne could sing?


That sure is some sophisticated and refined cultural stuff you like to
watch.


Well, her "targeted" sidebar ads lead to dildos and sex toys, remember,
she told us that less than a year ago...

JustWait October 19th 11 04:51 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/2011 11:48 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 11:19 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:54 AM, X ` Man wrote:
You know, I'm not aware of an organization dedicated to converting
Christians into atheists. You don't either.


Sure I do, we all do, look at any University..



I see.

"Any university" (mean, of course, every university) is "dedicated" to
converting Christians into atheists.

That's way up there on the list of "The Dumbest Things Scott Ingersoll
Has Ever Posted."

You are an ignorant little fool, and your every post here demonstrates
"Scotty doesn't know."

What do you care, do you have something to add to the conversation or
are you just trolling again Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University
of America? Do you sit there all day long just waiting for someone you
hate to post so you can make a one line comment or insult them? Wow,
great life you have there... Does Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University
of America, know you have spent the last ten years here insulting and
trolling the group as HtheK, HKrause, HarryK, Paul, x-man, sometimes
posting as many as 100 one line, insult/troll posts in one 24 hour
period? Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America, you seem
a lowlife parasite who spends his days and nights sharing your hate and
misery here an all over then net. Anybody who has five minutes to look
back at your posts over the last ten years will see that. I feel sorry
for you, get out of the house man, step away from the keyboard...

Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America

iBoaterer[_2_] October 19th 11 05:26 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
In article ,
says...

On 10/19/2011 11:27 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 11:21 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 11:09 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:52 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:26 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:22 AM, Danny wrote:
On 10/19/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/18/11 4:36 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/10/2011 5:56 PM, BAR wrote:

Crap, he's posting from his iPhone now.

Made non-union in China too.

Unfortunately, most so-called "smart" phones, and most cell phones,
are
now assembled in the PRC, and many are manufactured there, too,
even
Nokias. In the last couple of years, nearly all cell phone assembly
has
been "outsourced" to the PRC. My rule against buying merchandise
from
the PRC is, "can I find a similar or better product manufactured
elsewhere?" Since most "smart" phones are coming out of the PRC,
the
answer, sadly, is no.

More hypocritical excuses.

If you actually had a real conviction, you'd not use a cell phone.

Your "rule" is very self accommodating.

That is the progressive way, especially here in this group...


"Danny" must be one of your brothers, because he's obviously as
dumb as
you are.


What do you care,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE


Be careful, Snotty...or I'll edit the song to change the name of
fiona. :)



Didn't listen, I would never click on a link from a known pedophile...
Remember, you stated here that your targeted advertizing showed you
dildoes and sex toys. I don't even want to know where a pedophile surfs,
much less, click on a link he posted...



Hehehe. You're projecting again. You don't see me putting up photos of
underaged pubescent children on Facebook and directing my "buddies" in
rec.boats to look at them.

So, you think sex toys are strictly the province of pedophiles, eh?

I'll bet your wife has a vibrator.


Another lie by the coward of rec.boats.. This one is going directly to
the university...

If you ever decide to end it all, come and say that to my face you nasty
old ****er...What do you care, do you have something to add to the
conversation or are you just trolling again Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of
Catholic University of America? Do you sit there all day long just
waiting for someone you hate to post so you can make a one line comment
or insult them? Wow, great life you have there... Does Dr. Karen Grear
of Catholic University of America, know you have spent the last ten
years here insulting and trolling the group as HtheK, HKrause, HarryK,
Paul, x-man, sometimes posting as many as 100 one line, insult/troll
posts in one 24 hour period? Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University
of America, you seem a lowlife parasite who spends his days and nights
sharing your hate and misery here an all over then net. Anybody who has
five minutes to look back at your posts over the last ten years will see
that. I feel sorry for you, get out of the house man, step away from the
keyboard...

Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America


It makes you wonder just how low and scum like that coward can go.

iBoaterer[_2_] October 19th 11 05:27 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
In article ,
says...

On 10/19/2011 11:39 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 11:36 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 11:27 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 11:21 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 11:09 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:52 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:26 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:22 AM, Danny wrote:
On 10/19/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/18/11 4:36 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/10/2011 5:56 PM, BAR wrote:

Crap, he's posting from his iPhone now.

Made non-union in China too.

Unfortunately, most so-called "smart" phones, and most cell
phones,
are
now assembled in the PRC, and many are manufactured there, too,
even
Nokias. In the last couple of years, nearly all cell phone
assembly
has
been "outsourced" to the PRC. My rule against buying merchandise
from
the PRC is, "can I find a similar or better product manufactured
elsewhere?" Since most "smart" phones are coming out of the PRC,
the
answer, sadly, is no.

More hypocritical excuses.

If you actually had a real conviction, you'd not use a cell phone.

Your "rule" is very self accommodating.

That is the progressive way, especially here in this group...


"Danny" must be one of your brothers, because he's obviously as
dumb as
you are.


What do you care,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE


Be careful, Snotty...or I'll edit the song to change the name of
fiona. :)



Didn't listen, I would never click on a link from a known pedophile...
Remember, you stated here that your targeted advertizing showed you
dildoes and sex toys. I don't even want to know where a pedophile
surfs,
much less, click on a link he posted...



Hehehe. You're projecting again. You don't see me putting up photos of
underaged pubescent children on Facebook and directing my "buddies" in
rec.boats to look at them.

So, you think sex toys are strictly the province of pedophiles, eh?

I'll bet your wife has a vibrator.

Another lie by the coward of rec.boats.. This one is going directly to
the university...


Uh, last week you posted here that you put up on facebook photos of your
kid and some of her friends "hanging out."

So, what was the lie...that your wife doesn't have a vibrator?


If you want to know, ask me to my face Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic
University of America. You are a sick bitch, What do you care, do you
have something to add to the conversation or are you just trolling again
Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America? Do you sit there
all day long just waiting for someone you hate to post so you can make a
one line comment or insult them? Wow, great life you have there... Does
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America, know you have spent
the last ten years here insulting and trolling the group as HtheK,
HKrause, HarryK, Paul, x-man, sometimes posting as many as 100 one line,
insult/troll posts in one 24 hour period? Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of
Catholic University of America, you seem a lowlife parasite who spends
his days and nights sharing your hate and misery here an all over then
net. Anybody who has five minutes to look back at your posts over the
last ten years will see that. I feel sorry for you, get out of the house
man, step away from the keyboard...

Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America
Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America


At least your wife doesn't have four chins!!!

Drifter[_2_] October 19th 11 05:50 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/2011 10:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlef8idnfns9evGQwPTnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

On 10/19/11 10:16 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:15 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 8:05 AM, BAR wrote:
In raweb.com,
says...

On 10/18/2011 7:53 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/18/11 6:54 AM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 17, 7:52 am, X ` wrote:
On 10/17/11 8:41 AM, Tim wrote:









On Oct 17, 7:30 am, X ` wrote:
On 10/17/11 8:22 AM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 17, 5:30 am, X ` wrote:
In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a
peasant
revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants
attacked
and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and
roasted
him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of
the
serfs
raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and
then
they
forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they
killed her.

Now that is serious class warfare.

Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this
country
should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the
"French"
treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial
chiefs
would
provide quicker results.

Wiki gives credit of the story to one Jean La Bel, but I
thought this
line was interesting:

"The peasants involved in the rebellion seem to have lacked any
real
organization, instead rising up locally as an unstructured mass.
It is
speculated by Jean le Bel that evil governors and tax collectors
spread the word of rebellion from village to village to inspire
the
peasants to rebel against the nobility. When asked as to the
cause of
their discontent they apparently replied that they were just
doing
what they had witnessed others doing. Additionally it seems
that the
rebellion contained some idea that it was possible to rid the
world of
nobles. Froissart's account portrays the rebels as mindless
thugs
bent
on destruction, which they wreaked on over 150 noble houses and
castles, murdering the families in horrendous ways."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie#The_uprising

In the 14th Century, the serfs had every reason to murder
nobles. They
still do.

Harry, nobody has the right to 'murder' anyone...

In the 14th Century, the nobility murdered just about anyone it
pleased,
and with impunity. Since the serfs had no justice whatsoever
available
to them, turnabout was seen as fair play.

Even in this country and in this century, we have official murder.
Some
may say that those killed in wars or by the executioner are not
murdered, but "the state" will say anything to justify its actions.

Harry,. who do you have the right to murder, and who has the
right to
murder you?


Murder simply defined is *illegal* homicide. The country and many
states
engage in homicide and justify it by saying it was *legal*.
The state of course can make anything it likes legal, but that
doesn't
make it justified. Executions may be legal, but they are not
justified.
Killing of non-combatants in a war is murder.

The situation is different in a case of self-defense. I don't have
the
right to murder anyone, but I do have the legal and I think moral
right
to defend myself or my wife from intruders who break into the house
and
intend bodily harm. If that means shooting the intruders, so be it.

It's not the same as execution. The state has a choice. It can
warehouse
violent offenders until they die of old age. There are no such
alternative when dealing with a home invader.

You should know that all intruders are not murderers and rapists. You
better make sure you are targeted for bodily harm before you pull the
trigger. Your paranoia will work against you in defense of a shooting.
Think about that, big boy.

When you point a gun at someone, like an intruder in your home, your
intention is to kill them not to interview them. If you are not aiming
for center mass you are in idiot.

Had a young guy walk into my house a few years back, at 1:30 in the
morning.. I used a baseball bat to remove him, not a gun. Turns out he
was a escaped patient from a home down the street, and didn't know where
he was... If Harry had had the same, a innocent person would be dead
instead of just having a broken rib...


We're smart enough down here to tell the difference between a little
**** intent on violence (like you) and someone suffering from a
non-violent mental disorder.

Bull****, when someone breaks down your door at 1:30 am, you don't take
time to check their intent.. but of course you have to defend your
cowardly ways, I get it...



It's fairly easy to tell a non-violent, unarmed, confused mental patient
from a hot-tempered, sawed-off little **** like you, Snotty. Even easier
when the lady of the house is a psychotherapist who did a year-old
internship at one of Florida's huge forensic mental hospitals, has
worked at several psych facilities, has been a licensed, practicing
psychotherapist for more than 15 years, and has been recognized by
courts in this area and several distant states as an expert witness.


Oh, so Dr. Fourchin is going to do a patient intake exam before you
decide to shoot or not?


Sure. That's standard practice at Krause house. Except for the Florida
incident where Harry decided to break the guys legs with his F150.

Drifter[_2_] October 19th 11 05:56 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/2011 10:16 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:02 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 8:10 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 8:06 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:31:01 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:45:32 -0400, wrote:

In ,

says...

CNN is a dripping wet liberal-socialism farce propaganda machine.

Not nearly as bad as MSNBC, or PBS. CNN lies by omission, the
other two
just make it up as they go along...

And Fox is fair and balanced and would never "lie by
omission"....right?

CNN may be the most balanced, based on the fact that both sides are
****ed at them. ;-)

CNN is corporate news. They're anything but in the middle. PBS and
BBC are closer to real news.

PBS and BBC are left leaning at best and communist at worst.




snerk You demonstrate the lack of formal edu-ma-ca-tion.


I am sure he has more education than you Harry, and is probably more
secure about his since he doesn't have to come here and lie about it.
You said you graduated Yale here years ago, and it was proven to be a
lie....


You are sure? Bertie joined the marines after high school and never
continued his formal edu-ma-ca-tion.


Bar's hitch in the marines made a man out of a boy. You became a
man_______________________when?

Drifter[_2_] October 19th 11 06:00 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/2011 10:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:26 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:22 AM, Danny wrote:
On 10/19/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/18/11 4:36 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/10/2011 5:56 PM, BAR wrote:

Crap, he's posting from his iPhone now.

Made non-union in China too.

Unfortunately, most so-called "smart" phones, and most cell phones, are
now assembled in the PRC, and many are manufactured there, too, even
Nokias. In the last couple of years, nearly all cell phone assembly has
been "outsourced" to the PRC. My rule against buying merchandise from
the PRC is, "can I find a similar or better product manufactured
elsewhere?" Since most "smart" phones are coming out of the PRC, the
answer, sadly, is no.

More hypocritical excuses.

If you actually had a real conviction, you'd not use a cell phone.

Your "rule" is very self accommodating.


That is the progressive way, especially here in this group...



"Danny" must be one of your brothers, because he's obviously as dumb as
you are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE

Who knew Jason Bourne could sing?


Why would you ever watch a C grade movie like that?

JustWait October 19th 11 06:01 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/2011 12:50 PM, Drifter wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlef8idnfns9evGQwPTnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

On 10/19/11 10:16 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:15 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 8:05 AM, BAR wrote:
In raweb.com,
says...

On 10/18/2011 7:53 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/18/11 6:54 AM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 17, 7:52 am, X ` wrote:
On 10/17/11 8:41 AM, Tim wrote:









On Oct 17, 7:30 am, X ` wrote:
On 10/17/11 8:22 AM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 17, 5:30 am, X ` wrote:
In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara
Tuchman, a
peasant
revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The
peasants
attacked
and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived
there and
roasted
him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A
dozen of
the
serfs
raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and
then
they
forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they
killed her.

Now that is serious class warfare.

Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in
this
country
should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the
"French"
treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial
chiefs
would
provide quicker results.

Wiki gives credit of the story to one Jean La Bel, but I
thought this
line was interesting:

"The peasants involved in the rebellion seem to have
lacked any
real
organization, instead rising up locally as an unstructured
mass.
It is
speculated by Jean le Bel that evil governors and tax
collectors
spread the word of rebellion from village to village to
inspire
the
peasants to rebel against the nobility. When asked as to the
cause of
their discontent they apparently replied that they were just
doing
what they had witnessed others doing. Additionally it seems
that the
rebellion contained some idea that it was possible to rid the
world of
nobles. Froissart's account portrays the rebels as mindless
thugs
bent
on destruction, which they wreaked on over 150 noble
houses and
castles, murdering the families in horrendous ways."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie#The_uprising

In the 14th Century, the serfs had every reason to murder
nobles. They
still do.

Harry, nobody has the right to 'murder' anyone...

In the 14th Century, the nobility murdered just about anyone it
pleased,
and with impunity. Since the serfs had no justice whatsoever
available
to them, turnabout was seen as fair play.

Even in this country and in this century, we have official
murder.
Some
may say that those killed in wars or by the executioner are not
murdered, but "the state" will say anything to justify its
actions.

Harry,. who do you have the right to murder, and who has the
right to
murder you?


Murder simply defined is *illegal* homicide. The country and many
states
engage in homicide and justify it by saying it was *legal*.
The state of course can make anything it likes legal, but that
doesn't
make it justified. Executions may be legal, but they are not
justified.
Killing of non-combatants in a war is murder.

The situation is different in a case of self-defense. I don't have
the
right to murder anyone, but I do have the legal and I think moral
right
to defend myself or my wife from intruders who break into the
house
and
intend bodily harm. If that means shooting the intruders, so be
it.

It's not the same as execution. The state has a choice. It can
warehouse
violent offenders until they die of old age. There are no such
alternative when dealing with a home invader.

You should know that all intruders are not murderers and
rapists. You
better make sure you are targeted for bodily harm before you
pull the
trigger. Your paranoia will work against you in defense of a
shooting.
Think about that, big boy.

When you point a gun at someone, like an intruder in your home, your
intention is to kill them not to interview them. If you are not
aiming
for center mass you are in idiot.

Had a young guy walk into my house a few years back, at 1:30 in the
morning.. I used a baseball bat to remove him, not a gun. Turns
out he
was a escaped patient from a home down the street, and didn't know
where
he was... If Harry had had the same, a innocent person would be dead
instead of just having a broken rib...


We're smart enough down here to tell the difference between a little
**** intent on violence (like you) and someone suffering from a
non-violent mental disorder.

Bull****, when someone breaks down your door at 1:30 am, you don't take
time to check their intent.. but of course you have to defend your
cowardly ways, I get it...


It's fairly easy to tell a non-violent, unarmed, confused mental patient
from a hot-tempered, sawed-off little **** like you, Snotty. Even easier
when the lady of the house is a psychotherapist who did a year-old
internship at one of Florida's huge forensic mental hospitals, has
worked at several psych facilities, has been a licensed, practicing
psychotherapist for more than 15 years, and has been recognized by
courts in this area and several distant states as an expert witness.


Oh, so Dr. Fourchin is going to do a patient intake exam before you
decide to shoot or not?


Sure. That's standard practice at Krause house. Except for the Florida
incident where Harry decided to break the guys legs with his F150.


Yeah, the one where the guy came at him with a tire iron, but didn't see
him coming all at the same time? snerk That was one of his better
bull**** stories;)

X ` Man October 19th 11 06:34 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/11 1:30 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:15:21 -0400, X `
wrote:

Had a young guy walk into my house a few years back, at 1:30 in the
morning.. I used a baseball bat to remove him, not a gun. Turns out he
was a escaped patient from a home down the street, and didn't know where
he was... If Harry had had the same, a innocent person would be dead
instead of just having a broken rib...



We're smart enough down here to tell the difference between a little
**** intent on violence (like you) and someone suffering from a
non-violent mental disorder.


I suppose we really don't know if this guy had violence on his mind.
He was taken out before he could do what he came there for.
It would be interesting to track him down and see what he is doing
now. If he turns out to have killed someone later, was not shooting
him better for society?
Breaking into a strangers house at 0130 is not an indication of a
person with good things on his mind.

As a purely legal thing, shooting someone and hitting them with a bat
is pretty much the same thing.



My assumption is that anyone breaking into the house has criminal intent.

I'm not a spy or a drug dealer or a terrorist, so if the police come
calling, it'll be during the day, they'll knock on the door and have
proper credentials.

At 1:30 am, whoever is breaking in pretty much deserves what he gets.

X ` Man October 19th 11 06:42 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/11 1:36 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:27:39 -0400, X `
wrote:

It's fairly easy to tell a non-violent, unarmed, confused mental patient
from a hot-tempered, sawed-off little **** like you


Ted Bundy looked like an insurance salesman and he usually used
weapons of opportunity, picked up at the crime scene.


Ted Bundy was the exception, not the rule. If I see a short, disheveled,
smelly guy with a pony tail and a manic look on his face breaking into
the house, I am going to assume he is not an insurance
salesman.

Drifter[_2_] October 19th 11 06:43 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/2011 1:34 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 1:30 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:15:21 -0400, X `
wrote:

Had a young guy walk into my house a few years back, at 1:30 in the
morning.. I used a baseball bat to remove him, not a gun. Turns out he
was a escaped patient from a home down the street, and didn't know
where
he was... If Harry had had the same, a innocent person would be dead
instead of just having a broken rib...


We're smart enough down here to tell the difference between a little
**** intent on violence (like you) and someone suffering from a
non-violent mental disorder.


I suppose we really don't know if this guy had violence on his mind.
He was taken out before he could do what he came there for.
It would be interesting to track him down and see what he is doing
now. If he turns out to have killed someone later, was not shooting
him better for society?
Breaking into a strangers house at 0130 is not an indication of a
person with good things on his mind.

As a purely legal thing, shooting someone and hitting them with a bat
is pretty much the same thing.



My assumption is that anyone breaking into the house has criminal intent.

I'm not a spy or a drug dealer or a terrorist, so if the police come
calling, it'll be during the day, they'll knock on the door and have
proper credentials.

At 1:30 am, whoever is breaking in pretty much deserves what he gets.


You would kill a guy whose only crime up to that point was breaking and
entering yet you think a convicted murderer SHOULD NOT be executed. That
sounds like a good topic to debate. Too bad no one wants to debate a
piece of ****e like you.

X ` Man October 19th 11 06:45 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/11 1:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:54:21 -0400, X `
wrote:

You know, I'm not aware of an organization dedicated to converting
Christians into atheists.


The Catholic Church? ;-)


That reminds me of a story my Jesuit priest friend told me once. It's
clean, but too sophisticated for rec.boats.

JustWait October 19th 11 06:54 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/2011 1:30 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:15:21 -0400, X `
wrote:

Had a young guy walk into my house a few years back, at 1:30 in the
morning.. I used a baseball bat to remove him, not a gun. Turns out he
was a escaped patient from a home down the street, and didn't know where
he was... If Harry had had the same, a innocent person would be dead
instead of just having a broken rib...



We're smart enough down here to tell the difference between a little
**** intent on violence (like you) and someone suffering from a
non-violent mental disorder.


I suppose we really don't know if this guy had violence on his mind.
He was taken out before he could do what he came there for.
It would be interesting to track him down and see what he is doing
now. If he turns out to have killed someone later, was not shooting
him better for society?
Breaking into a strangers house at 0130 is not an indication of a
person with good things on his mind.

As a purely legal thing, shooting someone and hitting them with a bat
is pretty much the same thing.


Well, in this case you are 100% wrong.. I could have swung for the cheap
seats, but two hands on either end of the bat, cross block to the chest
technique I used (instead of swinging it like a bat), was specifically
intended "NOT" to kill him, just back him out to, and then off of the
front porch. Once he landed on his back in the front lawn, I didn't
follow him, I retreated back into the house and waited for the cops. If
he stood up and came back to the porch, I would swing for "the cheap
seats" and I made that real clear to him from inside the house...

For the record in hindsight, after finding out who he was (a patient
from a group home down the street), I doubt he meant any harm, I believe
he is still a resident there to this day. I do know one thing though, if
the "only" weapon I had was a gun, I would have shot him and never
doubted my decision. My wife and kids were standing behind me screaming,
I doubt anybody but JPS (who would try to talk to him) and our own
internet hero (who is just waiting for the opportunity to kill someone
with his guns) would do anything different than I did right then and
there...

JustWait October 19th 11 06:57 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/2011 1:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:54:21 -0400, X `
wrote:

You know, I'm not aware of an organization dedicated to converting
Christians into atheists.


The Catholic Church? ;-)


You got me there. I know several of their victims. My church too for
that matter, just not in as great a number... I know for a fact that the
people in my Church (not the church itself) were instrumental in turning
at least on of my children, Athiest.. And several of my peers coming up
as a teen too, but that was again more due to one hypocrite with power,
than the church itself...

iBoaterer[_2_] October 19th 11 07:00 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
In article om,
says...

On 10/19/2011 10:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlef8idnfns9evGQwPTnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

On 10/19/11 10:16 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:15 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 8:05 AM, BAR wrote:
In raweb.com,
says...

On 10/18/2011 7:53 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/18/11 6:54 AM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 17, 7:52 am, X ` wrote:
On 10/17/11 8:41 AM, Tim wrote:









On Oct 17, 7:30 am, X ` wrote:
On 10/17/11 8:22 AM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 17, 5:30 am, X ` wrote:
In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a
peasant
revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants
attacked
and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and
roasted
him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of
the
serfs
raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and
then
they
forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they
killed her.

Now that is serious class warfare.

Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this
country
should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the
"French"
treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial
chiefs
would
provide quicker results.

Wiki gives credit of the story to one Jean La Bel, but I
thought this
line was interesting:

"The peasants involved in the rebellion seem to have lacked any
real
organization, instead rising up locally as an unstructured mass.
It is
speculated by Jean le Bel that evil governors and tax collectors
spread the word of rebellion from village to village to inspire
the
peasants to rebel against the nobility. When asked as to the
cause of
their discontent they apparently replied that they were just
doing
what they had witnessed others doing. Additionally it seems
that the
rebellion contained some idea that it was possible to rid the
world of
nobles. Froissart's account portrays the rebels as mindless
thugs
bent
on destruction, which they wreaked on over 150 noble houses and
castles, murdering the families in horrendous ways."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie#The_uprising

In the 14th Century, the serfs had every reason to murder
nobles. They
still do.

Harry, nobody has the right to 'murder' anyone...

In the 14th Century, the nobility murdered just about anyone it
pleased,
and with impunity. Since the serfs had no justice whatsoever
available
to them, turnabout was seen as fair play.

Even in this country and in this century, we have official murder.
Some
may say that those killed in wars or by the executioner are not
murdered, but "the state" will say anything to justify its actions.

Harry,. who do you have the right to murder, and who has the
right to
murder you?


Murder simply defined is *illegal* homicide. The country and many
states
engage in homicide and justify it by saying it was *legal*.
The state of course can make anything it likes legal, but that
doesn't
make it justified. Executions may be legal, but they are not
justified.
Killing of non-combatants in a war is murder.

The situation is different in a case of self-defense. I don't have
the
right to murder anyone, but I do have the legal and I think moral
right
to defend myself or my wife from intruders who break into the house
and
intend bodily harm. If that means shooting the intruders, so be it.

It's not the same as execution. The state has a choice. It can
warehouse
violent offenders until they die of old age. There are no such
alternative when dealing with a home invader.

You should know that all intruders are not murderers and rapists. You
better make sure you are targeted for bodily harm before you pull the
trigger. Your paranoia will work against you in defense of a shooting.
Think about that, big boy.

When you point a gun at someone, like an intruder in your home, your
intention is to kill them not to interview them. If you are not aiming
for center mass you are in idiot.

Had a young guy walk into my house a few years back, at 1:30 in the
morning.. I used a baseball bat to remove him, not a gun. Turns out he
was a escaped patient from a home down the street, and didn't know where
he was... If Harry had had the same, a innocent person would be dead
instead of just having a broken rib...


We're smart enough down here to tell the difference between a little
**** intent on violence (like you) and someone suffering from a
non-violent mental disorder.

Bull****, when someone breaks down your door at 1:30 am, you don't take
time to check their intent.. but of course you have to defend your
cowardly ways, I get it...


It's fairly easy to tell a non-violent, unarmed, confused mental patient
from a hot-tempered, sawed-off little **** like you, Snotty. Even easier
when the lady of the house is a psychotherapist who did a year-old
internship at one of Florida's huge forensic mental hospitals, has
worked at several psych facilities, has been a licensed, practicing
psychotherapist for more than 15 years, and has been recognized by
courts in this area and several distant states as an expert witness.


Oh, so Dr. Fourchin is going to do a patient intake exam before you
decide to shoot or not?


Sure. That's standard practice at Krause house. Except for the Florida
incident where Harry decided to break the guys legs with his F150.


Without the proper mental evaluation first?

iBoaterer[_2_] October 19th 11 07:01 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
In article m,
says...

On 10/19/2011 10:16 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:02 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 8:10 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 8:06 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:31:01 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:45:32 -0400, wrote:

In ,

says...

CNN is a dripping wet liberal-socialism farce propaganda machine.

Not nearly as bad as MSNBC, or PBS. CNN lies by omission, the
other two
just make it up as they go along...

And Fox is fair and balanced and would never "lie by
omission"....right?

CNN may be the most balanced, based on the fact that both sides are
****ed at them. ;-)

CNN is corporate news. They're anything but in the middle. PBS and
BBC are closer to real news.

PBS and BBC are left leaning at best and communist at worst.




snerk You demonstrate the lack of formal edu-ma-ca-tion.

I am sure he has more education than you Harry, and is probably more
secure about his since he doesn't have to come here and lie about it.
You said you graduated Yale here years ago, and it was proven to be a
lie....


You are sure? Bertie joined the marines after high school and never
continued his formal edu-ma-ca-tion.


Bar's hitch in the marines made a man out of a boy. You became a
man_______________________when?


He's still a first class coward to this day!

JustWait October 19th 11 07:04 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/2011 2:00 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In raweb.com,
says...

On 10/19/2011 10:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlef8idnfns9evGQwPTnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

On 10/19/11 10:16 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 10:15 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 8:05 AM, BAR wrote:
In raweb.com,
says...

On 10/18/2011 7:53 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/18/11 6:54 AM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 17, 7:52 am, X ` wrote:
On 10/17/11 8:41 AM, Tim wrote:









On Oct 17, 7:30 am, X ` wrote:
On 10/17/11 8:22 AM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 17, 5:30 am, X ` wrote:
In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a
peasant
revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants
attacked
and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and
roasted
him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of
the
serfs
raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and
then
they
forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they
killed her.

Now that is serious class warfare.

Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this
country
should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the
"French"
treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial
chiefs
would
provide quicker results.

Wiki gives credit of the story to one Jean La Bel, but I
thought this
line was interesting:

"The peasants involved in the rebellion seem to have lacked any
real
organization, instead rising up locally as an unstructured mass.
It is
speculated by Jean le Bel that evil governors and tax collectors
spread the word of rebellion from village to village to inspire
the
peasants to rebel against the nobility. When asked as to the
cause of
their discontent they apparently replied that they were just
doing
what they had witnessed others doing. Additionally it seems
that the
rebellion contained some idea that it was possible to rid the
world of
nobles. Froissart's account portrays the rebels as mindless
thugs
bent
on destruction, which they wreaked on over 150 noble houses and
castles, murdering the families in horrendous ways."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie#The_uprising

In the 14th Century, the serfs had every reason to murder
nobles. They
still do.

Harry, nobody has the right to 'murder' anyone...

In the 14th Century, the nobility murdered just about anyone it
pleased,
and with impunity. Since the serfs had no justice whatsoever
available
to them, turnabout was seen as fair play.

Even in this country and in this century, we have official murder.
Some
may say that those killed in wars or by the executioner are not
murdered, but "the state" will say anything to justify its actions.

Harry,. who do you have the right to murder, and who has the
right to
murder you?


Murder simply defined is *illegal* homicide. The country and many
states
engage in homicide and justify it by saying it was *legal*.
The state of course can make anything it likes legal, but that
doesn't
make it justified. Executions may be legal, but they are not
justified.
Killing of non-combatants in a war is murder.

The situation is different in a case of self-defense. I don't have
the
right to murder anyone, but I do have the legal and I think moral
right
to defend myself or my wife from intruders who break into the house
and
intend bodily harm. If that means shooting the intruders, so be it.

It's not the same as execution. The state has a choice. It can
warehouse
violent offenders until they die of old age. There are no such
alternative when dealing with a home invader.

You should know that all intruders are not murderers and rapists. You
better make sure you are targeted for bodily harm before you pull the
trigger. Your paranoia will work against you in defense of a shooting.
Think about that, big boy.

When you point a gun at someone, like an intruder in your home, your
intention is to kill them not to interview them. If you are not aiming
for center mass you are in idiot.

Had a young guy walk into my house a few years back, at 1:30 in the
morning.. I used a baseball bat to remove him, not a gun. Turns out he
was a escaped patient from a home down the street, and didn't know where
he was... If Harry had had the same, a innocent person would be dead
instead of just having a broken rib...


We're smart enough down here to tell the difference between a little
**** intent on violence (like you) and someone suffering from a
non-violent mental disorder.

Bull****, when someone breaks down your door at 1:30 am, you don't take
time to check their intent.. but of course you have to defend your
cowardly ways, I get it...


It's fairly easy to tell a non-violent, unarmed, confused mental patient
from a hot-tempered, sawed-off little **** like you, Snotty. Even easier
when the lady of the house is a psychotherapist who did a year-old
internship at one of Florida's huge forensic mental hospitals, has
worked at several psych facilities, has been a licensed, practicing
psychotherapist for more than 15 years, and has been recognized by
courts in this area and several distant states as an expert witness.

Oh, so Dr. Fourchin is going to do a patient intake exam before you
decide to shoot or not?


Sure. That's standard practice at Krause house. Except for the Florida
incident where Harry decided to break the guys legs with his F150.


Without the proper mental evaluation first?


Hey, he is an expert, his sister "plays a doctor on the internet"... and
all those fake smarts rubbed off on him;)

iBoaterer[_2_] October 19th 11 07:04 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
In article ,
says...

On 10/19/11 1:30 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:15:21 -0400, X `
wrote:

Had a young guy walk into my house a few years back, at 1:30 in the
morning.. I used a baseball bat to remove him, not a gun. Turns out he
was a escaped patient from a home down the street, and didn't know where
he was... If Harry had had the same, a innocent person would be dead
instead of just having a broken rib...


We're smart enough down here to tell the difference between a little
**** intent on violence (like you) and someone suffering from a
non-violent mental disorder.


I suppose we really don't know if this guy had violence on his mind.
He was taken out before he could do what he came there for.
It would be interesting to track him down and see what he is doing
now. If he turns out to have killed someone later, was not shooting
him better for society?
Breaking into a strangers house at 0130 is not an indication of a
person with good things on his mind.

As a purely legal thing, shooting someone and hitting them with a bat
is pretty much the same thing.



My assumption is that anyone breaking into the house has criminal intent.

I'm not a spy or a drug dealer or a terrorist, so if the police come
calling, it'll be during the day, they'll knock on the door and have
proper credentials.

At 1:30 am, whoever is breaking in pretty much deserves what he gets.


Cops only go to someone's house during the day? Interesting!

iBoaterer[_2_] October 19th 11 07:05 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
In article om,
says...

On 10/19/2011 1:34 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 1:30 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:15:21 -0400, X `
wrote:

Had a young guy walk into my house a few years back, at 1:30 in the
morning.. I used a baseball bat to remove him, not a gun. Turns out he
was a escaped patient from a home down the street, and didn't know
where
he was... If Harry had had the same, a innocent person would be dead
instead of just having a broken rib...


We're smart enough down here to tell the difference between a little
**** intent on violence (like you) and someone suffering from a
non-violent mental disorder.

I suppose we really don't know if this guy had violence on his mind.
He was taken out before he could do what he came there for.
It would be interesting to track him down and see what he is doing
now. If he turns out to have killed someone later, was not shooting
him better for society?
Breaking into a strangers house at 0130 is not an indication of a
person with good things on his mind.

As a purely legal thing, shooting someone and hitting them with a bat
is pretty much the same thing.



My assumption is that anyone breaking into the house has criminal intent.

I'm not a spy or a drug dealer or a terrorist, so if the police come
calling, it'll be during the day, they'll knock on the door and have
proper credentials.

At 1:30 am, whoever is breaking in pretty much deserves what he gets.


You would kill a guy whose only crime up to that point was breaking and
entering yet you think a convicted murderer SHOULD NOT be executed. That
sounds like a good topic to debate. Too bad no one wants to debate a
piece of ****e like you.


But it gets better, remember, his wife has to perform a pre-intake
evaluation by Dr. Fourchin first!

Wayne.B October 19th 11 09:08 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:30:01 -0400, wrote:

As a purely legal thing, shooting someone and hitting them with a bat
is pretty much the same thing.


There are no laws dealing with unregistered bats and you don't need a
permit to own or carry one, not even in New York. :-)


JustWait October 19th 11 09:14 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/2011 4:08 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:30:01 -0400, wrote:

As a purely legal thing, shooting someone and hitting them with a bat
is pretty much the same thing.


There are no laws dealing with unregistered bats and you don't need a
permit to own or carry one, not even in New York. :-)


In Mass, you can get charged with illegal "firearms" charges for
carrying nunchucks... They are considered a "sidearm" and subject to the
same mandatory 5 year sentence as a firearm...

X ` Man October 20th 11 12:02 AM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/11 6:59 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:42:37 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 10/19/11 1:36 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:27:39 -0400, X `
wrote:

It's fairly easy to tell a non-violent, unarmed, confused mental patient
from a hot-tempered, sawed-off little **** like you

Ted Bundy looked like an insurance salesman and he usually used
weapons of opportunity, picked up at the crime scene.


Ted Bundy was the exception, not the rule. If I see a short, disheveled,
smelly guy with a pony tail and a manic look on his face breaking into
the house, I am going to assume he is not an insurance
salesman.


People breaking into your house is an exception. Most are not going to
have a pony tail


Well, not when they leave...on a gurney, under a sheet.

BAR[_2_] October 20th 11 12:09 AM

Real Class Warfare
 
In article m,
says...

On 10/19/2011 10:16 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:02 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 8:10 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 8:06 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:31:01 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:45:32 -0400, wrote:

In ,

says...

CNN is a dripping wet liberal-socialism farce propaganda machine.

Not nearly as bad as MSNBC, or PBS. CNN lies by omission, the
other two
just make it up as they go along...

And Fox is fair and balanced and would never "lie by
omission"....right?

CNN may be the most balanced, based on the fact that both sides are
****ed at them. ;-)

CNN is corporate news. They're anything but in the middle. PBS and
BBC are closer to real news.

PBS and BBC are left leaning at best and communist at worst.




snerk You demonstrate the lack of formal edu-ma-ca-tion.

I am sure he has more education than you Harry, and is probably more
secure about his since he doesn't have to come here and lie about it.
You said you graduated Yale here years ago, and it was proven to be a
lie....


You are sure? Bertie joined the marines after high school and never
continued his formal edu-ma-ca-tion.


Bar's hitch in the marines made a man out of a boy. You became a
man_______________________when?


Harry always leaves out the part about me being almost 20 years old when
I went into the USMCR and the fact that I was working for the USDA
fulltime as a GS'er at the time.

X ` Man October 20th 11 12:15 AM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/11 7:09 PM, BAR wrote:
In aweb.com,
says...

On 10/19/2011 10:16 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 10:02 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/19/2011 8:10 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/19/11 8:06 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:31:01 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:45:32 -0400, wrote:

In ,

says...

CNN is a dripping wet liberal-socialism farce propaganda machine.

Not nearly as bad as MSNBC, or PBS. CNN lies by omission, the
other two
just make it up as they go along...

And Fox is fair and balanced and would never "lie by
omission"....right?

CNN may be the most balanced, based on the fact that both sides are
****ed at them. ;-)

CNN is corporate news. They're anything but in the middle. PBS and
BBC are closer to real news.

PBS and BBC are left leaning at best and communist at worst.




snerk You demonstrate the lack of formal edu-ma-ca-tion.

I am sure he has more education than you Harry, and is probably more
secure about his since he doesn't have to come here and lie about it.
You said you graduated Yale here years ago, and it was proven to be a
lie....

You are sure? Bertie joined the marines after high school and never
continued his formal edu-ma-ca-tion.


Bar's hitch in the marines made a man out of a boy. You became a
man_______________________when?


Harry always leaves out the part about me being almost 20 years old when
I went into the USMCR and the fact that I was working for the USDA
fulltime as a GS'er at the time.



So, you *did* join the marines *after* high school. Just as I posted.

JustWait October 20th 11 04:43 AM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/2011 6:59 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:42:37 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 10/19/11 1:36 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:27:39 -0400, X `
wrote:

It's fairly easy to tell a non-violent, unarmed, confused mental patient
from a hot-tempered, sawed-off little **** like you

Ted Bundy looked like an insurance salesman and he usually used
weapons of opportunity, picked up at the crime scene.


Ted Bundy was the exception, not the rule. If I see a short, disheveled,
smelly guy with a pony tail and a manic look on his face breaking into
the house, I am going to assume he is not an insurance
salesman.


People breaking into your house is an exception. Most are not going to
have a pony tail


OH, that's just Dr. Karen Grear from Catholic University of America
trolling and lying again. What a nasty bitch she really is...

JustWait October 20th 11 04:45 AM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/19/2011 6:58 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:34:22 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 10/19/11 1:30 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:15:21 -0400, X `
wrote:

Had a young guy walk into my house a few years back, at 1:30 in the
morning.. I used a baseball bat to remove him, not a gun. Turns out he
was a escaped patient from a home down the street, and didn't know where
he was... If Harry had had the same, a innocent person would be dead
instead of just having a broken rib...


We're smart enough down here to tell the difference between a little
**** intent on violence (like you) and someone suffering from a
non-violent mental disorder.

I suppose we really don't know if this guy had violence on his mind.
He was taken out before he could do what he came there for.
It would be interesting to track him down and see what he is doing
now. If he turns out to have killed someone later, was not shooting
him better for society?
Breaking into a strangers house at 0130 is not an indication of a
person with good things on his mind.

As a purely legal thing, shooting someone and hitting them with a bat
is pretty much the same thing.



My assumption is that anyone breaking into the house has criminal intent.

I'm not a spy or a drug dealer or a terrorist, so if the police come
calling, it'll be during the day, they'll knock on the door and have
proper credentials.

At 1:30 am, whoever is breaking in pretty much deserves what he gets.


The only flaw in that theory is the number of times SWAT teams do
break into the wrong house or are just operating on bad information.
Remember the guy in Northern Va. He confronted a bunch of cops on a
bad raid with a muzzle loader and they had semi autos. (Ballou? maybe
James Ballou?)

one can only hope when it happens to harry, no cops get killed before
they blow his ass away...

JustWait October 20th 11 05:41 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/20/2011 12:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:08:07 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:30:01 -0400,
wrote:

As a purely legal thing, shooting someone and hitting them with a bat
is pretty much the same thing.


There are no laws dealing with unregistered bats and you don't need a
permit to own or carry one, not even in New York. :-)


I guarantee you, if a bunch of guys were carrying baseball bats on
Wall Street this week, they would be arrested.

As soon as you threaten someone with it, a bat becomes a weapon, just
like a gun.
The strange thing is, I have a permit to carry a gun, even my machine
gun but I can't carry a switchblade knife or brass knuckles.



... and if you take that bat and cut about 7 inches out of the middle and
replace it with chain or rope, you can't carry it either;)

JustWait October 20th 11 09:24 PM

Real Class Warfare
 
On 10/20/2011 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:32:02 -0400,
wrote:

You are wrong. If this guy "walked into your house" at 1:30AM, you are
an idiot for not locking your door. Since you did not lock your door,
you (and your family) most likely had a "duty to retreat."



That depends on where you live. The obligation of retreat is mostly a
north eastern and left coast, blue state thing.
In Florida, all you need is a fear of bodily harm and you have the
right to use force. These days that is extended from the home to
"anywhere you have a legal right to be" with the "stand your ground"
law. In your home, RV or boat, the mere fact that someone is there is
usually enough evidence that you can infer the intent of bodily harm.
In most cases I have watched here locally they extend that to your
yard. (guys shooting unarmed auto burglars)
The state's attorneys have been very reluctant to bring cases against
these people after a few were tossed on "stand your ground".




I would have probably said about the same thing, but I have no need to
explain myself to another Harry sockpuppet...


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