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			On 17/10/2011 12:22 PM,  wrote: 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:28:56 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:03:32 -0400, wrote: On 10/17/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Lets hope a similar fate doesn't come to your doorstep. Harry is well armed and prepared to shoot any serf who comes to get his stuff because he has more than they do, ;-) I know it sounds attractive to go loot the rich but the reality is, they are not that rich. If you took every dime from the top 10 richest people in the US, it would run Medicare for about 145 days, then what? There would be no more Microsoft, Oracle, Walmart, Georgia Pacific, the Sands chain of casinos and whatever Soros and Buffett do. You would have thrown a quarter of a million people out of work for what? Five months of medical care for geezers? Just like in society in general, the wealth starts dropping off pretty fast on the top 400 too. By the time you get down to #31-32 you are in singlebillion dollar digits. Bear in mind, most of this money is unrealized capital gains that would disappear as soon as you tried to cash the check anyway. If you suddenly tried to sell 600 million shares of Microsoft, what do you think you would get for it? It certainly wouldn't be the $17 billion Forbes says it is worth to Bill Gates. The flaw in the above is that I know of no one who thinks we should take all of the money from all of the corps. It would be a good thing if they started paying there fair share though. I have to problem getting more but I also understand it is not a panacea. All you have to do is look at the Bush/Obama tax cut. $70 billion went to the $250k+ gang and the remaining $300 billion went to those making less than $250k. $70 billion really only represents a half of one percent of the interest on our national debt. So what part of $70 billion to $15 trillion do you think is worth much? Are you sure your not being penny wise and pound foolish for the envy? Just a 0bama sheep puppet? Think, the problem is DC corruption and political greed. Government can't solve the problem because government is the problem. This depression and economic certainty startd in 2007 with Bernanke and the Democratic congress, so why no results since then? Because government is the problem. Government refuses to admit it is the problem because that would mean government has to shrink to fit what the economy can support in sustainability. And how dare the American government shrink to help the people and economy to get on its feet when Bernanke can just print more money for more debt-tax slavery. When the fleabaggers wake up to the facts, and liberalism fails them, they will awake as a new more rational animal, something the government really fears. In the mean time it is about milking the herd for statism. -- Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But we have big huge government we can't afford... -- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude  | 
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	says... On 10/17/11 12:57 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:03:32 -0400, wrote: On 10/17/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Lets hope a similar fate doesn't come to your doorstep. Harry is well armed and prepared to shoot any serf who comes to get his stuff because he has more than they do, ;-) Since I am fairly well-known "in these here parts" as a liberal and as a supporter of trade unionism, I doubt the Wall Street protestors will be breaking down my door. I'm only armed and dangerous when little twerps with ponytails try to break in... Coward.  | 
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			On 17/10/2011 11:35 AM, X ` Man wrote: 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	On 10/17/11 12:57 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:03:32 -0400, wrote: On 10/17/2011 6:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Lets hope a similar fate doesn't come to your doorstep. Harry is well armed and prepared to shoot any serf who comes to get his stuff because he has more than they do, ;-) Since I am fairly well-known "in these here parts" as a liberal and as a supporter of trade unionism, I doubt the Wall Street protestors will be breaking down my door. I'm only armed and dangerous when little twerps with ponytails try to break in... Envy and greed takes no prisoners. The more you have, the more you are a target. Doesn't even mater how you accumulated more, earned, inherited, investing...doesn't mater a ****. The envy, the greedy hit your street your no different than the rest of your neighbors. So make sure the rifles and glocks are well oiled and the shells fresh. -- Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But we have big huge government we can't afford... -- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude  | 
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			Krausie wrote: Since I am fairly well-known "in these here parts" 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	as .... ___________ Is that a fact, Krausie? I'll bet you're also known in them there parts as a lying, psychotic, free loading gas bag.  | 
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			On 10/17/2011 11:50 PM, George C. Boater wrote: 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Krausie wrote: Since I am fairly well-known "in these here parts" as .... ___________ Is that a fact, Krausie? I'll bet you're also known in them there parts as a lying, psychotic, free loading gas bag. I wonder what "these here parts" he's referring to.  | 
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