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Real Class Warfare
In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant
revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. |
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On Oct 17, 7:30*am, X ` Man wrote:
In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Maybe the gov't should confiscate their 'proceeds of crime' and give it back to those they stole from... the aerage citizen. |
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On 10/17/2011 7:38 AM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 17, 7:30 am, X ` wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Maybe the gov't should confiscate their 'proceeds of crime' and give it back to those they stole from... the aerage citizen. "Aerage" citizen mr. spelling ferret? |
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On 17/10/2011 8:21 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/17/2011 7:38 AM, North Star wrote: On Oct 17, 7:30 am, X ` wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Maybe the gov't should confiscate their 'proceeds of crime' and give it back to those they stole from... the aerage citizen. "Aerage" citizen mr. spelling ferret? Excellent point. But the average citizen is increasingly a debt-tax slave to government. There isn't that many rich to tax that much. The total wealth of all of the USA billionaires couldn't fund 0bama's debt for one year. Fact is 0bama is enslaving America with debt for fraud and corruption at government and top level banks like Bernanke. Bleeding America dry from the inside. -- Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But we have big huge government we can't afford... -- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude |
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On 17/10/2011 5:38 AM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 17, 7:30 am, X ` wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Maybe the gov't should confiscate their 'proceeds of crime' and give it back to those they stole from... the aerage citizen. Can the government confiscate its own wealth? Not really, government consumes it like a leach on the productive. Keep on sucking and consuming. Fact is government is saddling massive amounts of debts to bailout corrupt companies and provide you, your kids and grand kids with debt-tax slavery. Government can't solve this problem because government is the problem. -- Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But we have big huge government we can't afford... -- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude |
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On Oct 17, 5:30*am, X ` Man wrote:
In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Wiki gives credit of the story to one Jean La Bel, but I thought this line was interesting: "The peasants involved in the rebellion seem to have lacked any real organization, instead rising up locally as an unstructured mass. It is speculated by Jean le Bel that evil governors and tax collectors spread the word of rebellion from village to village to inspire the peasants to rebel against the nobility. When asked as to the cause of their discontent they apparently replied that they were just doing what they had witnessed others doing. Additionally it seems that the rebellion contained some idea that it was possible to rid the world of nobles. Froissart's account portrays the rebels as mindless thugs bent on destruction, which they wreaked on over 150 noble houses and castles, murdering the families in horrendous ways." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie#The_uprising |
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On 10/17/11 8:22 AM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 17, 5:30 am, X ` wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Wiki gives credit of the story to one Jean La Bel, but I thought this line was interesting: "The peasants involved in the rebellion seem to have lacked any real organization, instead rising up locally as an unstructured mass. It is speculated by Jean le Bel that evil governors and tax collectors spread the word of rebellion from village to village to inspire the peasants to rebel against the nobility. When asked as to the cause of their discontent they apparently replied that they were just doing what they had witnessed others doing. Additionally it seems that the rebellion contained some idea that it was possible to rid the world of nobles. Froissart's account portrays the rebels as mindless thugs bent on destruction, which they wreaked on over 150 noble houses and castles, murdering the families in horrendous ways." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie#The_uprising In the 14th Century, the serfs had every reason to murder nobles. They still do. |
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On Oct 17, 7:30*am, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/17/11 8:22 AM, Tim wrote: On Oct 17, 5:30 am, X ` *wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. |
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On 10/17/11 8:41 AM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 17, 7:30 am, X ` wrote: On 10/17/11 8:22 AM, Tim wrote: On Oct 17, 5:30 am, X ` wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Wiki gives credit of the story to one Jean La Bel, but I thought this line was interesting: "The peasants involved in the rebellion seem to have lacked any real organization, instead rising up locally as an unstructured mass. It is speculated by Jean le Bel that evil governors and tax collectors spread the word of rebellion from village to village to inspire the peasants to rebel against the nobility. When asked as to the cause of their discontent they apparently replied that they were just doing what they had witnessed others doing. Additionally it seems that the rebellion contained some idea that it was possible to rid the world of nobles. Froissart's account portrays the rebels as mindless thugs bent on destruction, which they wreaked on over 150 noble houses and castles, murdering the families in horrendous ways." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie#The_uprising In the 14th Century, the serfs had every reason to murder nobles. They still do. Harry, nobody has the right to 'murder' anyone... In the 14th Century, the nobility murdered just about anyone it pleased, and with impunity. Since the serfs had no justice whatsoever available to them, turnabout was seen as fair play. Even in this country and in this century, we have official murder. Some may say that those killed in wars or by the executioner are not murdered, but "the state" will say anything to justify its actions. |
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On Oct 17, 7:52*am, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/17/11 8:41 AM, Tim wrote: On Oct 17, 7:30 am, X ` *wrote: On 10/17/11 8:22 AM, Tim wrote: On Oct 17, 5:30 am, X ` * *wrote: In 1358, according to historian and author Barbara Tuchman, a peasant revolution started in the Oise valley of France. The peasants attacked and looted a manor house, killed the knight who lived there and roasted him on a spit while his wife and children watched. A dozen of the serfs raped the lady of the manor while the children watched, and then they forced her to eat the cooked flesh of her husband. Then they killed her. Now that is serious class warfare. Discussing whether the top one percent of the wealthy in this country should pay a higher tax rate is not, though I think the "French" treatment of a few dozen Wall Street chiefs and industrial chiefs would provide quicker results. Wiki gives credit of the story to one Jean La Bel, but I thought this line was interesting: "The peasants involved in the rebellion seem to have lacked any real organization, instead rising up locally as an unstructured mass. It is speculated by Jean le Bel that evil governors and tax collectors spread the word of rebellion from village to village to inspire the peasants to rebel against the nobility. When asked as to the cause of their discontent they apparently replied that they were just doing what they had witnessed others doing. Additionally it seems that the rebellion contained some idea that it was possible to rid the world of nobles. Froissart's account portrays the rebels as mindless thugs bent on destruction, which they wreaked on over 150 noble houses and castles, murdering the families in horrendous ways." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie#The_uprising In the 14th Century, the serfs had every reason to murder nobles. They still do. Harry, nobody has the right to 'murder' anyone... In the 14th Century, the nobility murdered just about anyone it pleased, and with impunity. Since the serfs had no justice whatsoever available to them, turnabout was seen as fair play. Even in this country and in this century, we have official murder. Some may say that those killed in wars or by the executioner are not murdered, but "the state" will say anything to justify its actions. Harry,. who do you have the right to murder, and who has the right to murder you? |
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