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Steve Jobs has died...
On 10/7/11 8:12 AM, BAR wrote:
Apple is not the issue, Microsoft is the issue. The number of applications that run on Windows is important. There no longer is a single application I use for which there isn't a similar or better version available for the Apple OS. I have a lot of Mac apps, too. Oh, and MS releases Mac versions of its leading software for use on Macs. And, of course, Windoze, even the latest version, runs just fine on Macs. -- I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one. |
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Steve Jobs has died...
In article ,
says... On 10/7/11 2:58 AM, jps wrote: On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 01:19:00 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 21:15:53 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: The good part was he recognized brilliance, which Xerox never did. But he stole the design, he did not borrow it. Xerox should have owned about 1/2 of Apple for that breach of etiquette. He even tried to sue Microsoft for stealing "his" idea. There was a lot of "idea stealing" going on in the early PC business. If you saw a neat idea, you stole it. Gates perfected the art of simply buying out any serious competition he had once he was rich enough to sue. Jobs was successful because he was too small to be sued for anti-trust when Apple was young and too big to screw with when it became successful He is probably the most successful "closed architecture" company since Ma Bell. He got away with it because his reach was spread across so many different platforms that he did not have a monopolistic market share of any of them. Of course there is no such thing as anti trust legislation these days anyway. Personally I think Apple is a little too "culty" for me. I prefer open architecture and I will live with the quirks. Dell is too "closed" for my taste. And so the game continues with the iPhone and iPad, neither allowing flash (and thereby opening the platform) to run. But, unlike the closed architcture of the Mac, iPads (for now) and iPods dominate the market. Apple will never dominate the computer business. They may sell more laptops than any other laptop manufacturer but there are 10 laptop manufacturers, mostly producing product for the Windows environment. Even with the iPad's popularity, competitors running Android (Galaxy Tab) are quickly gaining momentum. The iPod and iPhone will continue to have a large market share but the computing market, including the iPad, is another thing. Ahh, but there are no laptops I have seen as elegant as the MacBooks, especially the new really light and small new laptops. Even my two or three year old MacBook Pro has a more elegant design than almost any laptop offered by another vendor. Plus, if I wanted to, I could run virtually any Windoze program on it. The downside is that the Apple computer products are significantly overpriced on the basis of hardware. I think the iPad is pretty slick, but it's not for us. The scarcity of ports plus the necessity of carrying around a keyboard if you really want to use it as a laptop replacement limits its attractiveness. And, of course, you'd have to subscribe to a second data plan if you wanted to "connect" with it by means other than wi-fi. The Samsung Galaxy models are slick, but again, you need to carry a keyboard to do any serious typing. I do think it has more ports, though. On the downside, the Android OS isn't nearly as elegant as what Apple offers. I probably would have gotten in line for an iPhone 5, but the 4S doesn't do it for me. My Android smartphone is coming off contract soon, but the 4S has a smaller screen than my current cell. I was hoping the iPhone 5 would have a larger screen. We'll have to wait and see on that one. Harry likes his Mac because it's prety!!! |
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Steve Jobs has died...
On 10/7/2011 8:23 AM, X ` Man wrote:
There no longer is a single application I use for which there isn't a similar or better version available for the Apple OS. Krause once again confirms his myopic view of the world. |
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Steve Jobs has died...
On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 09:10:01 -0400, Jimmy wrote:
On 10/7/2011 8:23 AM, X ` Man wrote: There no longer is a single application I use for which there isn't a similar or better version available for the Apple OS. Krause once again confirms his myopic view of the world. Hey, dildo, he said "I use." That means for his purposes, it works. You have something against personal freedom? |
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Steve Jobs has died...
On 10/7/11 3:44 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 09:10:01 -0400, wrote: On 10/7/2011 8:23 AM, X ` Man wrote: There no longer is a single application I use for which there isn't a similar or better version available for the Apple OS. Krause once again confirms his myopic view of the world. Hey, dildo, he said "I use." That means for his purposes, it works. You have something against personal freedom? Most of the righties here simply cannot read a simple declarative sentence and understand it. "Jimmy," whose posts I don't read, is just a doppelganger of a regular poster here. You'd be amazed at how few folks there are in here who post with any regularity or frequency. -- I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one. |
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Steve Jobs has died...
In article ,
says... In article , says... On 10/7/11 2:58 AM, jps wrote: On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 01:19:00 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 21:15:53 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: The good part was he recognized brilliance, which Xerox never did. But he stole the design, he did not borrow it. Xerox should have owned about 1/2 of Apple for that breach of etiquette. He even tried to sue Microsoft for stealing "his" idea. There was a lot of "idea stealing" going on in the early PC business. If you saw a neat idea, you stole it. Gates perfected the art of simply buying out any serious competition he had once he was rich enough to sue. Jobs was successful because he was too small to be sued for anti-trust when Apple was young and too big to screw with when it became successful He is probably the most successful "closed architecture" company since Ma Bell. He got away with it because his reach was spread across so many different platforms that he did not have a monopolistic market share of any of them. Of course there is no such thing as anti trust legislation these days anyway. Personally I think Apple is a little too "culty" for me. I prefer open architecture and I will live with the quirks. Dell is too "closed" for my taste. And so the game continues with the iPhone and iPad, neither allowing flash (and thereby opening the platform) to run. But, unlike the closed architcture of the Mac, iPads (for now) and iPods dominate the market. Apple will never dominate the computer business. They may sell more laptops than any other laptop manufacturer but there are 10 laptop manufacturers, mostly producing product for the Windows environment. Even with the iPad's popularity, competitors running Android (Galaxy Tab) are quickly gaining momentum. The iPod and iPhone will continue to have a large market share but the computing market, including the iPad, is another thing. Ahh, but there are no laptops I have seen as elegant as the MacBooks, especially the new really light and small new laptops. Even my two or three year old MacBook Pro has a more elegant design than almost any laptop offered by another vendor. Plus, if I wanted to, I could run virtually any Windoze program on it. The downside is that the Apple computer products are significantly overpriced on the basis of hardware. I think the iPad is pretty slick, but it's not for us. The scarcity of ports plus the necessity of carrying around a keyboard if you really want to use it as a laptop replacement limits its attractiveness. And, of course, you'd have to subscribe to a second data plan if you wanted to "connect" with it by means other than wi-fi. The Samsung Galaxy models are slick, but again, you need to carry a keyboard to do any serious typing. I do think it has more ports, though. On the downside, the Android OS isn't nearly as elegant as what Apple offers. I probably would have gotten in line for an iPhone 5, but the 4S doesn't do it for me. My Android smartphone is coming off contract soon, but the 4S has a smaller screen than my current cell. I was hoping the iPhone 5 would have a larger screen. We'll have to wait and see on that one. Harry likes his Mac because it's prety!!! What color is Harry's Mac? |
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Steve Jobs has died...
On 10/7/2011 3:44 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 09:10:01 -0400, wrote: On 10/7/2011 8:23 AM, X ` Man wrote: There no longer is a single application I use for which there isn't a similar or better version available for the Apple OS. Krause once again confirms his myopic view of the world. Hey, dildo, he said "I use." That means for his purposes, it works. You have something against personal freedom? I'm sorry that you failed to understand what I was communicating, however, the fault lies with you, and I'm not going to attempt to try again. Personal freedom in this country is the right to own guns. You have something against personal freedom? |
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Steve Jobs has died...
On 10/7/2011 5:58 PM, BAR wrote:
In , says... On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 09:10:01 -0400, wrote: On 10/7/2011 8:23 AM, X ` Man wrote: There no longer is a single application I use for which there isn't a similar or better version available for the Apple OS. Krause once again confirms his myopic view of the world. Hey, dildo, he said "I use." That means for his purposes, it works. You have something against personal freedom? You need to lookup myopic. See, JPS, BAR understood what I wrote, and the intent. |
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