In article m,
says...

On 10/6/2011 1:07 PM, Jimmy wrote:
On 10/6/2011 11:07 AM, jps wrote:

Arming everybody in hopes of reducing violence is insane logic.

Who advocates arming "everyone"?

You made that up, didn't you, so you could look good by calling it
"insane logic"?!

Harry making himself look good? That's laughable.

Did you see where Harry was posting about what a wonder man Steve Jobs
was? Now, while I agree that Jobs was an amazing person, he really goes
against some of Harry's strongest convictions. Such as, he's
"uneducated", a term Harry uses in a derogatory manner here to anyone
that doesn't totally agree with him. Also, there's Foxconn which
manufactures the iPod, iPad, and iPhone in China. They had to install
nets because the workers were jumping out of the windows to commit
suicide.


See he

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswee...-jobs-strange-
defense-of-foxconn.html

On 10/6/2011 2:37 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In aweb.com,
says...

On 10/6/2011 1:07 PM, Jimmy wrote:
On 10/6/2011 11:07 AM, jps wrote:

Arming everybody in hopes of reducing violence is insane logic.

Who advocates arming "everyone"?

You made that up, didn't you, so you could look good by calling it
"insane logic"?!

Harry making himself look good? That's laughable.

Did you see where Harry was posting about what a wonder man Steve Jobs
was? Now, while I agree that Jobs was an amazing person, he really goes
against some of Harry's strongest convictions. Such as, he's
"uneducated", a term Harry uses in a derogatory manner here to anyone
that doesn't totally agree with him. Also, there's Foxconn which
manufactures the iPod, iPad, and iPhone in China. They had to install
nets because the workers were jumping out of the windows to commit
suicide.


See he

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswee...-jobs-strange-
defense-of-foxconn.html



You shouldn't be concerned about what Harry thinks. Think of him as an
entertainer who provides us with unending sidesplitting humor. I like to
think of him as a modern day Lou Costello with a mean streak.

On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 13:07:45 -0400, Jimmy wrote:

On 10/6/2011 11:07 AM, jps wrote:

Arming everybody in hopes of reducing violence is insane logic.

Who advocates arming "everyone"?

You made that up, didn't you, so you could look good by calling it
"insane logic"?!

Are you the only person fielding arguments in rec.boats?

I suggest you read some of Bertie Poop's fertile insights.

In article m,
says...

On 10/6/2011 2:37 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In aweb.com,
says...

On 10/6/2011 1:07 PM, Jimmy wrote:
On 10/6/2011 11:07 AM, jps wrote:

Arming everybody in hopes of reducing violence is insane logic.

Who advocates arming "everyone"?

You made that up, didn't you, so you could look good by calling it
"insane logic"?!

Harry making himself look good? That's laughable.

Did you see where Harry was posting about what a wonder man Steve Jobs
was? Now, while I agree that Jobs was an amazing person, he really goes
against some of Harry's strongest convictions. Such as, he's
"uneducated", a term Harry uses in a derogatory manner here to anyone
that doesn't totally agree with him. Also, there's Foxconn which
manufactures the iPod, iPad, and iPhone in China. They had to install
nets because the workers were jumping out of the windows to commit
suicide.


See he

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswee...-jobs-strange-
defense-of-foxconn.html



You shouldn't be concerned about what Harry thinks. Think of him as an
entertainer who provides us with unending sidesplitting humor. I like to
think of him as a modern day Lou Costello with a mean streak.

Costello wasn't near the coward as Harry is.

"jps" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:12:22 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 13:28:05 -0700, jps wrote:


Hell yeah!

All it takes is to get disgruntled, go get your completely legal cache
of firearms and start shootin' at anything that moves or looks human!

Hey, he was perfectly normal until the safety meeting this morning.


CUPERTINO, Calif. —

Authorities went door to door with guns drawn Wednesday in search of a
disgruntled employee they say opened fire at a Northern California
limestone quarry, killing three and wounding six, before possibly
wounding another woman in an attempted carjacking.

Schools were on lockdown or closed in the Silicon Valley city of
Cupertino and nearby Los Gatos as SWAT teams sought Shareef Allman,
47.

Allman was at a routine safety meeting at the quarry at about 4:30
a.m. when he became disgruntled and left, Santa Clara County Sheriff's
Lt. Rick Sung said. He then returned with a handgun and rifle and
started shooting people, Sung said.

Sheriff Laurie Smith said two people were pronounced dead at
Permanente Quarry in Cupertino, and a third person died later at the
hospital.

Six others at the quarry were wounded and taken to area hospitals,
Smith said. Some of them remained in critical condition, she said.

If you won't defend yourself and your family, I guess that is your
business. Maybe you are OK with the crazy guy with the weapon making
your hard decisions for you. I don't feel that way, I'll make my own
decisions. If all else fails, I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried
by 6.

Do you carry your sidearm at work? They were all at work in a quary.

Please explain to me how what you've said has anything to do with this
situation?

Have people just gone ****ing insane? The guy who brought out his
weapon was perfectly sane prior to bringing out his weapon and
shooting the **** out of 9 people.

****, what does it take to get through the thick American skull?


------------------------------------------
Why do you think he was sane? He came there to kill the coworkers. Should
have been fired for careless driving a lot earlier. But probably union
protected his ass. He brought the pistol and another rifle to work. He set
the rifle outside the door where he could access it quickly. Tells me this
was not fly off the handle shooting. Was like Columbine, planned. And the
cops waited outside Columbine while the shooters killed for at least 45
minutes after the cops arrived. One armed teacher and at least one shooter
dead. Same with this nutcase in California. One armed person and he gets
shot before shooting 10 people.

On 06/10/2011 2:29 PM, Califbill wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:12:22 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 13:28:05 -0700, jps wrote:


Hell yeah!

All it takes is to get disgruntled, go get your completely legal cache
of firearms and start shootin' at anything that moves or looks human!

Hey, he was perfectly normal until the safety meeting this morning.


CUPERTINO, Calif. —

Authorities went door to door with guns drawn Wednesday in search of a
disgruntled employee they say opened fire at a Northern California
limestone quarry, killing three and wounding six, before possibly
wounding another woman in an attempted carjacking.

Schools were on lockdown or closed in the Silicon Valley city of
Cupertino and nearby Los Gatos as SWAT teams sought Shareef Allman,
47.

Allman was at a routine safety meeting at the quarry at about 4:30
a.m. when he became disgruntled and left, Santa Clara County Sheriff's
Lt. Rick Sung said. He then returned with a handgun and rifle and
started shooting people, Sung said.

Sheriff Laurie Smith said two people were pronounced dead at
Permanente Quarry in Cupertino, and a third person died later at the
hospital.

Six others at the quarry were wounded and taken to area hospitals,
Smith said. Some of them remained in critical condition, she said.

If you won't defend yourself and your family, I guess that is your
business. Maybe you are OK with the crazy guy with the weapon making
your hard decisions for you. I don't feel that way, I'll make my own
decisions. If all else fails, I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried
by 6.

Do you carry your sidearm at work? They were all at work in a quary.

Please explain to me how what you've said has anything to do with this
situation?

Have people just gone ****ing insane? The guy who brought out his
weapon was perfectly sane prior to bringing out his weapon and
shooting the **** out of 9 people.

****, what does it take to get through the thick American skull?


------------------------------------------
Why do you think he was sane? He came there to kill the coworkers.
Should have been fired for careless driving a lot earlier. But probably
union protected his ass. He brought the pistol and another rifle to
work. He set the rifle outside the door where he could access it
quickly. Tells me this was not fly off the handle shooting. Was like
Columbine, planned. And the cops waited outside Columbine while the
shooters killed for at least 45 minutes after the cops arrived. One
armed teacher and at least one shooter dead. Same with this nutcase in
California. One armed person and he gets shot before shooting 10 people.

Good odds he was an Obama is my mama voter too.

--
Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs.
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude

On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 13:29:09 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:12:22 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 13:28:05 -0700, jps wrote:


Hell yeah!

All it takes is to get disgruntled, go get your completely legal cache
of firearms and start shootin' at anything that moves or looks human!

Hey, he was perfectly normal until the safety meeting this morning.


CUPERTINO, Calif. —

Authorities went door to door with guns drawn Wednesday in search of a
disgruntled employee they say opened fire at a Northern California
limestone quarry, killing three and wounding six, before possibly
wounding another woman in an attempted carjacking.

Schools were on lockdown or closed in the Silicon Valley city of
Cupertino and nearby Los Gatos as SWAT teams sought Shareef Allman,
47.

Allman was at a routine safety meeting at the quarry at about 4:30
a.m. when he became disgruntled and left, Santa Clara County Sheriff's
Lt. Rick Sung said. He then returned with a handgun and rifle and
started shooting people, Sung said.

Sheriff Laurie Smith said two people were pronounced dead at
Permanente Quarry in Cupertino, and a third person died later at the
hospital.

Six others at the quarry were wounded and taken to area hospitals,
Smith said. Some of them remained in critical condition, she said.

If you won't defend yourself and your family, I guess that is your
business. Maybe you are OK with the crazy guy with the weapon making
your hard decisions for you. I don't feel that way, I'll make my own
decisions. If all else fails, I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried
by 6.

Do you carry your sidearm at work? They were all at work in a quary.

Please explain to me how what you've said has anything to do with this
situation?

Have people just gone ****ing insane? The guy who brought out his
weapon was perfectly sane prior to bringing out his weapon and
shooting the **** out of 9 people.

****, what does it take to get through the thick American skull?


------------------------------------------
Why do you think he was sane? He came there to kill the coworkers. Should
have been fired for careless driving a lot earlier. But probably union
protected his ass. He brought the pistol and another rifle to work. He set
the rifle outside the door where he could access it quickly. Tells me this
was not fly off the handle shooting. Was like Columbine, planned. And the
cops waited outside Columbine while the shooters killed for at least 45
minutes after the cops arrived. One armed teacher and at least one shooter
dead. Same with this nutcase in California. One armed person and he gets
shot before shooting 10 people.

No one is arguing about the speed at which his insanity took hold. He
was obviously somewhat perturbed and probably planned it but what the
**** are you suggesting? How many people should carry firearms at
work? Is it everybody or only a certain percentage and do those folks
have to submit to a psychological work up beforehand?

The basic bitch that I have is that our society and guns, for whatever
reason, have a hard time mixing.

We're into instant gratification and that can certainly be achieved
with a gun.

There's no good solution. The cat's out of the bag and we're ****ed.
A lot of innocent people are going to die because of graft and
corruption perpetrated by the gun industry, the NRA and those stupid
cocksuckers in Washington who couldn't wait to get their hands on that
campaign cash.

Guns are ****ing everywhere and in the hands of a population that
clearly cannot handle the responsibility.

On 10/6/2011 1:10 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/6/11 1:08 PM, jps wrote:
On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 13:03:53 -0400, wrote:

On 10/6/2011 3:42 AM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 18:31:16 -0400, wrote:

On 10/5/2011 5:51 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

Hell yeah!

All it takes is to get disgruntled, go get your completely legal
cache
of firearms and start shootin' at anything that moves or looks
human!

Hey, he was perfectly normal until the safety meeting this morning.

Just think, if the government was not suppressing the peoples
right to
keep and bear arms or carry concealed weapons somebody could have
shot
they guy before he killed anyone.

We've already established that JPS would stand by and watch his
wife and
daughter raped, rather than intervene.

He's scared of guns.

You're a stupid **** and you say stupid things that have no bearing in
reality.

Forgot that thread already, eh?

What man would sit and watch his wife and child harmed without doing
something? You think a gun is the only weapon a man has against
another man, which shows the weakness of your brain.

It's like saying you'd watch your boat sink for lack of a bildge pump.

****ing simpleton, you are.


Morons like "Jimmy" can't pass the instant check. If he got his hands on
a firearm, he'd shoot himself in the knee by accident.



Yeah, but would he "play" with it in the basement, just to show off.
That's how innocent people die. You play with your weapons, use them as
a substitute for your dick, that's exactly what you were doing the day
we talked and you were clicking it and asking "do you know what that
sound is". Yep, it's the sound of a coward with a limp dick...

Anybody who plays with weapons, shouldn't have any...

On 10/6/2011 11:07 AM, jps wrote:
On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 08:22:13 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 10/6/11 8:13 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:12:22 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 13:28:05 -0700, wrote:


Do you carry your sidearm at work? They were all at work in a quary.

Company policy prevents me from carrying a firearm at work. Since we
have a security force at work personal firearms are deemed not
necessary.

What? Your company doesn't think your safety is at the top of the list?
What would that security force do if a disgruntled worker got to your
floor, started shooting and killed 20 people before they could get to
him? Get body bags? And how would you be transporting that firearm in
Maryland? You know the rules here.

merican skull?

If someone was carrying a concealed weapon for their own protection they
could have taken out the guy before he got to 2, 3 or 4 or more peoples.

If, if, if, if. And you're assuming the guy with the firearm wouldn't be
the first one shot or would actually have the balls to shoot back or was
a good enough aim. If, if, if, if...

The guy who justifies carrying a weapon for self-defense is more
likely to use it in the commission of a crime, mistaken circumstances,
vigilante justice or domestic abuse.

Arming everybody in hopes of reducing violence is insane logic.

Where did this come from, Michael Moore, Jon Stewart, Carrot Top, or the
Huffington Hoax???

On 10/6/2011 4:29 PM, Califbill wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:12:22 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 13:28:05 -0700, jps wrote:


Hell yeah!

All it takes is to get disgruntled, go get your completely legal cache
of firearms and start shootin' at anything that moves or looks human!

Hey, he was perfectly normal until the safety meeting this morning.


CUPERTINO, Calif. —

Authorities went door to door with guns drawn Wednesday in search of a
disgruntled employee they say opened fire at a Northern California
limestone quarry, killing three and wounding six, before possibly
wounding another woman in an attempted carjacking.

Schools were on lockdown or closed in the Silicon Valley city of
Cupertino and nearby Los Gatos as SWAT teams sought Shareef Allman,
47.

Allman was at a routine safety meeting at the quarry at about 4:30
a.m. when he became disgruntled and left, Santa Clara County Sheriff's
Lt. Rick Sung said. He then returned with a handgun and rifle and
started shooting people, Sung said.

Sheriff Laurie Smith said two people were pronounced dead at
Permanente Quarry in Cupertino, and a third person died later at the
hospital.

Six others at the quarry were wounded and taken to area hospitals,
Smith said. Some of them remained in critical condition, she said.

If you won't defend yourself and your family, I guess that is your
business. Maybe you are OK with the crazy guy with the weapon making
your hard decisions for you. I don't feel that way, I'll make my own
decisions. If all else fails, I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried
by 6.

Do you carry your sidearm at work? They were all at work in a quary.

Please explain to me how what you've said has anything to do with this
situation?

Have people just gone ****ing insane? The guy who brought out his
weapon was perfectly sane prior to bringing out his weapon and
shooting the **** out of 9 people.

****, what does it take to get through the thick American skull?


------------------------------------------
Why do you think he was sane?

Because it's JPS, the German Screwdriver boy. He makes up facts as
quickly are our resident Nazi...

He came there to kill the coworkers.
Should have been fired for careless driving a lot earlier. But probably
union protected his ass. He brought the pistol and another rifle to
work. He set the rifle outside the door where he could access it
quickly. Tells me this was not fly off the handle shooting. Was like
Columbine, planned. And the cops waited outside Columbine while the
shooters killed for at least 45 minutes after the cops arrived. One
armed teacher and at least one shooter dead. Same with this nutcase in
California. One armed person and he gets shot before shooting 10 people.