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Right-wingers wrong on drug testing, too...
Fla. welfare applicants less likely to use drugs
By BILL KACZOR , 09.28.11, 08:23 AM EDT TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) -- Preliminary figures on a new Florida law requiring drug tests for welfare applicants show that they are less likely than other people to use drugs, not more. One famous Floridian suggests that it's the people who came up with the law who should be submitting specimens. Columnist and best-selling author Carl Hiaasen offered to pay for drug testing for all 160 members of the Florida Legislature in what he called "a patriotic whiz-fest." Several of the law's supporters say they're on board. "There is a certain public interest in going after hypocrisy," Hiaasen said Tuesday, two days after he made his proposal in a Miami Herald column. "Folks that are applying for DCF (Department of Children and Families) money normally wouldn't be standing in that line, and on top of that humiliation they now get to pee in a cup so they can get grocery money for their kids," Hiaasen told The Associated Press in an interview at his Vero Beach home. Gov. Rick Scott and other supporters of the law - the only one of its kind currently on the books in the U.S. - say the tests will save the state cash by weeding out people who would use welfare money on drugs. Critics say that just a few months after it went into effect, the law has already refuted the idea that people receiving public assistance are more likely to use drugs. Preliminary figures show that about 2.5 percent of up to 2,000 applicants for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families have tested positive since the law went into effect in July. Another 2 percent declined to take the test, Department of Children and Families officials say. -- I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one. |
Right-wingers wrong on drug testing, too...
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Right-wingers wrong on drug testing, too...
On 9/29/2011 11:34 AM, X ` Man wrote:
I guarantee you that if the state were using a modern drug test and proper procedures for running it, "beating" the test would be nearly impossible. What an extraordinarily dumb statement. |
Right-wingers wrong on drug testing, too...
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Right-wingers wrong on drug testing, too...
On 9/29/11 8:17 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:34:41 -0400, X ` wrote: On 9/29/11 11:20 AM, wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:32:01 -0400, X ` wrote: Fla. welfare applicants less likely to use drugs By BILL KACZOR , 09.28.11, 08:23 AM EDT TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) -- Preliminary figures on a new Florida law requiring drug tests for welfare applicants show that they are less likely than other people to use drugs, not more. One famous Floridian suggests that it's the people who came up with the law who should be submitting specimens. Columnist and best-selling author Carl Hiaasen offered to pay for drug testing for all 160 members of the Florida Legislature in what he called "a patriotic whiz-fest." Several of the law's supporters say they're on board. "There is a certain public interest in going after hypocrisy," Hiaasen said Tuesday, two days after he made his proposal in a Miami Herald column. "Folks that are applying for DCF (Department of Children and Families) money normally wouldn't be standing in that line, and on top of that humiliation they now get to pee in a cup so they can get grocery money for their kids," Hiaasen told The Associated Press in an interview at his Vero Beach home. Gov. Rick Scott and other supporters of the law - the only one of its kind currently on the books in the U.S. - say the tests will save the state cash by weeding out people who would use welfare money on drugs. Critics say that just a few months after it went into effect, the law has already refuted the idea that people receiving public assistance are more likely to use drugs. Preliminary figures show that about 2.5 percent of up to 2,000 applicants for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families have tested positive since the law went into effect in July. Another 2 percent declined to take the test, Department of Children and Families officials say. All it really does is prove these people know how to beat a drug test. On the other hand that is an important skill because you have to take a drug test for just about any job you might want to have ... including any job that involves government money. Are government workers more likely to be drug users? They all have to take drug tests. I guarantee you that if the state were using a modern drug test and proper procedures for running it, "beating" the test would be nearly impossible. Your information regarding the validity of modern tests is out of date. This is the $30 reagent test, not the $150 gas chromatograph test. Anyone can beat any test by abstaining a while anyway, each drug is different. The real ugly ones burn out the fastest. Marijuana in your test results is enough to get you tossed off a construction job, and mj lingers a long time, longer than you might think...plus, the tests typically are given on a random schedule. -- I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one. |
Right-wingers wrong on drug testing, too...
On Sep 29, 7:17*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:34:41 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 9/29/11 11:20 AM, wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:32:01 -0400, X ` wrote: Fla. welfare applicants less likely to use drugs By BILL KACZOR , 09.28.11, 08:23 AM EDT TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) -- Preliminary figures on a new Florida law requiring drug tests for welfare applicants show that they are less likely than other people to use drugs, not more. One famous Floridian suggests that it's the people who came up with the law who should be submitting specimens. Columnist and best-selling author Carl Hiaasen offered to pay for drug testing for all 160 members of the Florida Legislature in what he called "a patriotic whiz-fest." Several of the law's supporters say they're on board. "There is a certain public interest in going after hypocrisy," Hiaasen said Tuesday, two days after he made his proposal in a Miami Herald column. "Folks that are applying for DCF (Department of Children and Families) money normally wouldn't be standing in that line, and on top of that humiliation they now get to pee in a cup so they can get grocery money for their kids," Hiaasen told The Associated Press in an interview at his Vero Beach home. Gov. Rick Scott and other supporters of the law - the only one of its kind currently on the books in the U.S. - say the tests will save the state cash by weeding out people who would use welfare money on drugs.. Critics say that just a few months after it went into effect, the law has already refuted the idea that people receiving public assistance are more likely to use drugs. Preliminary figures show that about 2.5 percent of up to 2,000 applicants for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families have tested positive since the law went into effect in July. Another 2 percent declined to take the test, Department of Children and Families officials say. All it really does is prove these people know how to beat a drug test. On the other hand that is an important skill because you have to take a drug test for just about any job you might want to have ... including any job that involves government money. Are government workers more likely to be drug users? They all have to take drug tests. I guarantee you that if the state were using a modern drug test and proper procedures for running it, "beating" the test would be nearly impossible. Your information regarding the validity of modern tests is out of date. This is the $30 reagent test, not the $150 gas chromatograph test. Anyone can beat any test by abstaining a while anyway, each drug is different. The real ugly ones burn out the fastest. If you want to see the drug history, do a hair sample and look at the growth time. It tells a lot. |
Right-wingers wrong on drug testing, too...
On 9/29/2011 8:47 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sep 29, 7:17 pm, wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:34:41 -0400, X ` wrote: On 9/29/11 11:20 AM, wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:32:01 -0400, X ` wrote: Fla. welfare applicants less likely to use drugs By BILL KACZOR , 09.28.11, 08:23 AM EDT TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) -- Preliminary figures on a new Florida law requiring drug tests for welfare applicants show that they are less likely than other people to use drugs, not more. One famous Floridian suggests that it's the people who came up with the law who should be submitting specimens. Columnist and best-selling author Carl Hiaasen offered to pay for drug testing for all 160 members of the Florida Legislature in what he called "a patriotic whiz-fest." Several of the law's supporters say they're on board. "There is a certain public interest in going after hypocrisy," Hiaasen said Tuesday, two days after he made his proposal in a Miami Herald column. "Folks that are applying for DCF (Department of Children and Families) money normally wouldn't be standing in that line, and on top of that humiliation they now get to pee in a cup so they can get grocery money for their kids," Hiaasen told The Associated Press in an interview at his Vero Beach home. Gov. Rick Scott and other supporters of the law - the only one of its kind currently on the books in the U.S. - say the tests will save the state cash by weeding out people who would use welfare money on drugs. Critics say that just a few months after it went into effect, the law has already refuted the idea that people receiving public assistance are more likely to use drugs. Preliminary figures show that about 2.5 percent of up to 2,000 applicants for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families have tested positive since the law went into effect in July. Another 2 percent declined to take the test, Department of Children and Families officials say. All it really does is prove these people know how to beat a drug test. On the other hand that is an important skill because you have to take a drug test for just about any job you might want to have ... including any job that involves government money. Are government workers more likely to be drug users? They all have to take drug tests. I guarantee you that if the state were using a modern drug test and proper procedures for running it, "beating" the test would be nearly impossible. Your information regarding the validity of modern tests is out of date. This is the $30 reagent test, not the $150 gas chromatograph test. Anyone can beat any test by abstaining a while anyway, each drug is different. The real ugly ones burn out the fastest. If you want to see the drug history, do a hair sample and look at the growth time. It tells a lot. It's really not the ones who have the control to quit for a couple weeks before a test that we are worried about in my opinion. |
Right-wingers wrong on drug testing, too...
On 9/29/2011 8:45 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/29/11 8:17 PM, wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:34:41 -0400, X ` wrote: On 9/29/11 11:20 AM, wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:32:01 -0400, X ` wrote: Fla. welfare applicants less likely to use drugs By BILL KACZOR , 09.28.11, 08:23 AM EDT TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) -- Preliminary figures on a new Florida law requiring drug tests for welfare applicants show that they are less likely than other people to use drugs, not more. One famous Floridian suggests that it's the people who came up with the law who should be submitting specimens. Columnist and best-selling author Carl Hiaasen offered to pay for drug testing for all 160 members of the Florida Legislature in what he called "a patriotic whiz-fest." Several of the law's supporters say they're on board. "There is a certain public interest in going after hypocrisy," Hiaasen said Tuesday, two days after he made his proposal in a Miami Herald column. "Folks that are applying for DCF (Department of Children and Families) money normally wouldn't be standing in that line, and on top of that humiliation they now get to pee in a cup so they can get grocery money for their kids," Hiaasen told The Associated Press in an interview at his Vero Beach home. Gov. Rick Scott and other supporters of the law - the only one of its kind currently on the books in the U.S. - say the tests will save the state cash by weeding out people who would use welfare money on drugs. Critics say that just a few months after it went into effect, the law has already refuted the idea that people receiving public assistance are more likely to use drugs. Preliminary figures show that about 2.5 percent of up to 2,000 applicants for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families have tested positive since the law went into effect in July. Another 2 percent declined to take the test, Department of Children and Families officials say. All it really does is prove these people know how to beat a drug test. On the other hand that is an important skill because you have to take a drug test for just about any job you might want to have ... including any job that involves government money. Are government workers more likely to be drug users? They all have to take drug tests. I guarantee you that if the state were using a modern drug test and proper procedures for running it, "beating" the test would be nearly impossible. Your information regarding the validity of modern tests is out of date. This is the $30 reagent test, not the $150 gas chromatograph test. Anyone can beat any test by abstaining a while anyway, each drug is different. The real ugly ones burn out the fastest. Marijuana in your test results is enough to get you tossed off a construction job, and mj lingers a long time, longer than you might think...plus, the tests typically are given on a random schedule. Looks like there are two Pseudo doctors in the Krause family. |
Right-wingers wrong on drug testing, too...
On Sep 29, 8:01*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 9/29/2011 8:47 PM, Tim wrote: On Sep 29, 7:17 pm, wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:34:41 -0400, X ` wrote: On 9/29/11 11:20 AM, wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:32:01 -0400, X ` wrote: Fla. welfare applicants less likely to use drugs By BILL KACZOR , 09.28.11, 08:23 AM EDT TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) -- Preliminary figures on a new Florida law requiring drug tests for welfare applicants show that they are less likely than other people to use drugs, not more. One famous Floridian suggests that it's the people who came up with the law who should be submitting specimens. Columnist and best-selling author Carl Hiaasen offered to pay for drug testing for all 160 members of the Florida Legislature in what he called "a patriotic whiz-fest." Several of the law's supporters say they're on board. "There is a certain public interest in going after hypocrisy," Hiaasen said Tuesday, two days after he made his proposal in a Miami Herald column. "Folks that are applying for DCF (Department of Children and Families) money normally wouldn't be standing in that line, and on top of that humiliation they now get to pee in a cup so they can get grocery money for their kids," Hiaasen told The Associated Press in an interview at his Vero Beach home. Gov. Rick Scott and other supporters of the law - the only one of its kind currently on the books in the U.S. - say the tests will save the state cash by weeding out people who would use welfare money on drugs. Critics say that just a few months after it went into effect, the law has already refuted the idea that people receiving public assistance are more likely to use drugs. Preliminary figures show that about 2.5 percent of up to 2,000 applicants for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families have tested positive since the law went into effect in July. Another 2 percent declined to take the test, Department of Children and Families officials say. All it really does is prove these people know how to beat a drug test. |
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