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X ` Man September 30th 11 11:19 AM

Right-wingers wrong on drug testing, too...
 
On 9/30/11 1:15 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:45:09 -0400, X `
wrote:


Your information regarding the validity of modern tests is out of date.

This is the $30 reagent test, not the $150 gas chromatograph test.

Anyone can beat any test by abstaining a while anyway, each drug is
different. The real ugly ones burn out the fastest.



Marijuana in your test results is enough to get you tossed off a
construction job, and mj lingers a long time, longer than you might
think...plus, the tests typically are given on a random schedule.


True but if you smoke crack on Friday afternoon you will probably
pass the test on Monday.
OTOH if your doctor gives you a prescription for Vicodin you are fine,
no matter what even if you are stoned out of your mind.

That is a real flaw in the drug testing scam.

Most places don't even test for alcohol unless it is an accident
investigation. If this is just a random drug screen, you can be
****faced drunk and pass.

BTW I am surprised you didn't mention the original test law said you
had to be tested in Scott's own lab. That didn't last long.



I read about the politics behind the Florida law, not the specifics that
were making money for your felonious governor scott's "old" company.

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X ` Man September 30th 11 11:30 AM

Right-wingers wrong on drug testing, too...
 
On 9/30/11 1:15 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:45:09 -0400, X `
wrote:


Your information regarding the validity of modern tests is out of date.

This is the $30 reagent test, not the $150 gas chromatograph test.

Anyone can beat any test by abstaining a while anyway, each drug is
different. The real ugly ones burn out the fastest.



Marijuana in your test results is enough to get you tossed off a
construction job, and mj lingers a long time, longer than you might
think...plus, the tests typically are given on a random schedule.


True but if you smoke crack on Friday afternoon you will probably
pass the test on Monday.
OTOH if your doctor gives you a prescription for Vicodin you are fine,
no matter what even if you are stoned out of your mind.

That is a real flaw in the drug testing scam.

Most places don't even test for alcohol unless it is an accident
investigation. If this is just a random drug screen, you can be
****faced drunk and pass.

BTW I am surprised you didn't mention the original test law said you
had to be tested in Scott's own lab. That didn't last long.




If you are "stoned out of your mind" or "****faced drunk," you likely
are not going to be allowed to go to or continue your job the day of the
testing. If you repeatedly show up for work that way, you're going to be
fired.

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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

X ` Man September 30th 11 11:31 AM

Right-wingers wrong on drug testing, too...
 
On 9/30/11 1:16 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:47:26 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sep 29, 7:17 pm, wrote:


.

If you want to see the drug history, do a hair sample and look at the
growth time.

It tells a lot.


That may be why a lot of construction workers shave their head.



You seem to have developed an anti-working guy attitude recently.
You say a "lot" of construction workers shave their heads. Have you done
a study? What percentage shave their heads?

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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

Drifter[_2_] September 30th 11 01:14 PM

Right-wingers wrong on drug testing, too...
 
On 9/30/2011 6:31 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/30/11 1:16 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:47:26 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sep 29, 7:17 pm, wrote:


.

If you want to see the drug history, do a hair sample and look at the
growth time.

It tells a lot.


That may be why a lot of construction workers shave their head.



You seem to have developed an anti-working guy attitude recently.
You say a "lot" of construction workers shave their heads. Have you done
a study? What percentage shave their heads?


You seem to think that cut and pasting or representing third party
hearsay reporting of fourth party opinions is OK as long as you are
doing it and it supports your point of view. WAFA
PS: This appears to be Plumes M O as well. Is she one of your sock puppets?


iBoaterer[_2_] September 30th 11 01:39 PM

Right-wingers wrong on drug testing, too...
 
In article ,
says...

On 9/30/11 1:16 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:47:26 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sep 29, 7:17 pm, wrote:


.

If you want to see the drug history, do a hair sample and look at the
growth time.

It tells a lot.


That may be why a lot of construction workers shave their head.



You seem to have developed an anti-working guy attitude recently.
You say a "lot" of construction workers shave their heads. Have you done
a study? What percentage shave their heads?


This from the cowardly **** that makes ASSumptions about people here on
a daily basis.



iBoaterer[_2_] September 30th 11 01:41 PM

Right-wingers wrong on drug testing, too...
 
In article ,
says...

On 9/29/11 8:17 PM,
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:34:41 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 9/29/11 11:20 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:32:01 -0400, X `
wrote:

Fla. welfare applicants less likely to use drugs
By BILL KACZOR , 09.28.11, 08:23 AM EDT

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) -- Preliminary figures on a new Florida law
requiring drug tests for welfare applicants show that they are less
likely than other people to use drugs, not more. One famous Floridian
suggests that it's the people who came up with the law who should be
submitting specimens.

Columnist and best-selling author Carl Hiaasen offered to pay for drug
testing for all 160 members of the Florida Legislature in what he called
"a patriotic whiz-fest." Several of the law's supporters say they're on
board.

"There is a certain public interest in going after hypocrisy," Hiaasen
said Tuesday, two days after he made his proposal in a Miami Herald column.

"Folks that are applying for DCF (Department of Children and Families)
money normally wouldn't be standing in that line, and on top of that
humiliation they now get to pee in a cup so they can get grocery money
for their kids," Hiaasen told The Associated Press in an interview at
his Vero Beach home.

Gov. Rick Scott and other supporters of the law - the only one of its
kind currently on the books in the U.S. - say the tests will save the
state cash by weeding out people who would use welfare money on drugs.
Critics say that just a few months after it went into effect, the law
has already refuted the idea that people receiving public assistance are
more likely to use drugs.

Preliminary figures show that about 2.5 percent of up to 2,000
applicants for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families have tested
positive since the law went into effect in July. Another 2 percent
declined to take the test, Department of Children and Families officials
say.

All it really does is prove these people know how to beat a drug test.
On the other hand that is an important skill because you have to take
a drug test for just about any job you might want to have ...
including any job that involves government money.
Are government workers more likely to be drug users? They all have to
take drug tests.


I guarantee you that if the state were using a modern drug test and
proper procedures for running it, "beating" the test would be nearly
impossible.

Your information regarding the validity of modern tests is out of date.


This is the $30 reagent test, not the $150 gas chromatograph test.

Anyone can beat any test by abstaining a while anyway, each drug is
different. The real ugly ones burn out the fastest.



Marijuana in your test results is enough to get you tossed off a
construction job, and mj lingers a long time, longer than you might
think...plus, the tests typically are given on a random schedule.


But you said beating a modern drug test is "nearly impossible". You are
wrong, coward.

iBoaterer[_2_] September 30th 11 01:42 PM

Right-wingers wrong on drug testing, too...
 
In article m,
says...

On 9/29/2011 8:45 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/29/11 8:17 PM,
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:34:41 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 9/29/11 11:20 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:32:01 -0400, X `
wrote:

Fla. welfare applicants less likely to use drugs
By BILL KACZOR , 09.28.11, 08:23 AM EDT

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) -- Preliminary figures on a new Florida law
requiring drug tests for welfare applicants show that they are less
likely than other people to use drugs, not more. One famous Floridian
suggests that it's the people who came up with the law who should be
submitting specimens.

Columnist and best-selling author Carl Hiaasen offered to pay for drug
testing for all 160 members of the Florida Legislature in what he
called
"a patriotic whiz-fest." Several of the law's supporters say
they're on
board.

"There is a certain public interest in going after hypocrisy," Hiaasen
said Tuesday, two days after he made his proposal in a Miami Herald
column.

"Folks that are applying for DCF (Department of Children and Families)
money normally wouldn't be standing in that line, and on top of that
humiliation they now get to pee in a cup so they can get grocery money
for their kids," Hiaasen told The Associated Press in an interview at
his Vero Beach home.

Gov. Rick Scott and other supporters of the law - the only one of its
kind currently on the books in the U.S. - say the tests will save the
state cash by weeding out people who would use welfare money on drugs.
Critics say that just a few months after it went into effect, the law
has already refuted the idea that people receiving public
assistance are
more likely to use drugs.

Preliminary figures show that about 2.5 percent of up to 2,000
applicants for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families have tested
positive since the law went into effect in July. Another 2 percent
declined to take the test, Department of Children and Families
officials
say.

All it really does is prove these people know how to beat a drug test.
On the other hand that is an important skill because you have to take
a drug test for just about any job you might want to have ...
including any job that involves government money.
Are government workers more likely to be drug users? They all have to
take drug tests.


I guarantee you that if the state were using a modern drug test and
proper procedures for running it, "beating" the test would be nearly
impossible.

Your information regarding the validity of modern tests is out of date.

This is the $30 reagent test, not the $150 gas chromatograph test.

Anyone can beat any test by abstaining a while anyway, each drug is
different. The real ugly ones burn out the fastest.



Marijuana in your test results is enough to get you tossed off a
construction job, and mj lingers a long time, longer than you might
think...plus, the tests typically are given on a random schedule.




Looks like there are two Pseudo doctors in the Krause family.


Do you think Dr. Fourchin is giving him this bad information?

JustWait September 30th 11 02:26 PM

Right-wingers wrong on drug testing, too...
 
On 9/30/2011 1:15 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:45:09 -0400, X `
wrote:


Your information regarding the validity of modern tests is out of date.

This is the $30 reagent test, not the $150 gas chromatograph test.

Anyone can beat any test by abstaining a while anyway, each drug is
different. The real ugly ones burn out the fastest.



Marijuana in your test results is enough to get you tossed off a
construction job, and mj lingers a long time, longer than you might
think...plus, the tests typically are given on a random schedule.


True but if you smoke crack on Friday afternoon you will probably
pass the test on Monday.
OTOH if your doctor gives you a prescription for Vicodin you are fine,
no matter what even if you are stoned out of your mind.

That is a real flaw in the drug testing scam.

Most places don't even test for alcohol unless it is an accident
investigation. If this is just a random drug screen, you can be
****faced drunk and pass.

BTW I am surprised you didn't mention the original test law said you
had to be tested in Scott's own lab. That didn't last long.


I could smoke a joint today, and pass a test tomorrow...

X ` Man September 30th 11 02:47 PM

Right-wingers wrong on drug testing, too...
 
On 9/30/11 9:26 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/30/2011 1:15 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:45:09 -0400, X `
wrote:


Your information regarding the validity of modern tests is out of
date.

This is the $30 reagent test, not the $150 gas chromatograph test.

Anyone can beat any test by abstaining a while anyway, each drug is
different. The real ugly ones burn out the fastest.


Marijuana in your test results is enough to get you tossed off a
construction job, and mj lingers a long time, longer than you might
think...plus, the tests typically are given on a random schedule.


True but if you smoke crack on Friday afternoon you will probably
pass the test on Monday.
OTOH if your doctor gives you a prescription for Vicodin you are fine,
no matter what even if you are stoned out of your mind.

That is a real flaw in the drug testing scam.

Most places don't even test for alcohol unless it is an accident
investigation. If this is just a random drug screen, you can be
****faced drunk and pass.

BTW I am surprised you didn't mention the original test law said you
had to be tested in Scott's own lab. That didn't last long.


I could smoke a joint today, and pass a test tomorrow...



A point of random drug testing is that it is...random.

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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

X ` Man September 30th 11 05:08 PM

Right-wingers wrong on drug testing, too...
 
On 9/30/11 11:53 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:31:41 -0400, X `
wrote:

You say a "lot" of construction workers shave their heads. Have you done
a study? What percentage shave their heads?


... and maybe you forgot I was an electrical inspector for 8 years



I attend about half of my local union's monthly meetings. We have a lot
of members. There's a lot of male baldness among the older guys, but I'd
guesstimate that less than five per cent of the non-black actives shave
their heads. About a third of the black guys shave their heads.
Most of the black guys look cool with shaved heads. Most of the white
guys who shave their heads look like white supremacists. I also visit at
least three to four commercial construction jobsites each month and see
very few white dudes with shaved heads.


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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.


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