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On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:22:35 -0400, X ` Man
wrote: On 9/12/11 9:14 PM, wrote: Self absorbed non smokers demand access to both buildings because they think they are missing something. Yes they are ... the fun people. The "fun people" aren't smokers. Smokers smell bad, they pollute the air with their stench, their smoke ruins the taste of food, the smoke sticks to your hair and your clothes *and* it is not healthy. Anything that can be done to discourage smoking should be done. It doesn't matter. Greg is going to smoke his cigars and to hell with anyone else. |
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:00:26 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:22:35 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 9/12/11 9:14 PM, wrote: Self absorbed non smokers demand access to both buildings because they think they are missing something. Yes they are ... the fun people. The "fun people" aren't smokers. Smokers smell bad, they pollute the air with their stench, their smoke ruins the taste of food, the smoke sticks to your hair and your clothes *and* it is not healthy. Then why is it so important that you go into a bar that allows smoking? Nobody said allowing a bar owner to allow smoking meant ANY of them have to. Let the bar owner decide who he wants to cater to. This makes no sense. He never said that. I've already pointed out the fallacies in your argument, but you refuse to think about it. |
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 02:15:15 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:46:25 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:00:26 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:22:35 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 9/12/11 9:14 PM, wrote: Self absorbed non smokers demand access to both buildings because they think they are missing something. Yes they are ... the fun people. The "fun people" aren't smokers. Smokers smell bad, they pollute the air with their stench, their smoke ruins the taste of food, the smoke sticks to your hair and your clothes *and* it is not healthy. Then why is it so important that you go into a bar that allows smoking? Nobody said allowing a bar owner to allow smoking meant ANY of them have to. Let the bar owner decide who he wants to cater to. This makes no sense. He never said that. I've already pointed out the fallacies in your argument, but you refuse to think about it. What makes no sense? That the bar owner gets to decide whether his bar is smoking or non smoking? Why is that so hard? You and Harry can go somewhere else. Many states have decided that people's health are more important than your right to slowly kill yourself. |
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On 9/13/2011 2:58 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 02:15:15 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:46:25 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:00:26 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:22:35 -0400, X ` wrote: On 9/12/11 9:14 PM, wrote: Self absorbed non smokers demand access to both buildings because they think they are missing something. Yes they are ... the fun people. The "fun people" aren't smokers. Smokers smell bad, they pollute the air with their stench, their smoke ruins the taste of food, the smoke sticks to your hair and your clothes *and* it is not healthy. Then why is it so important that you go into a bar that allows smoking? Nobody said allowing a bar owner to allow smoking meant ANY of them have to. Let the bar owner decide who he wants to cater to. This makes no sense. He never said that. I've already pointed out the fallacies in your argument, but you refuse to think about it. What makes no sense? That the bar owner gets to decide whether his bar is smoking or non smoking? Why is that so hard? You and Harry can go somewhere else. Many states have decided that people's health are more important than your right to slowly kill yourself. Didn't realize that you were such a rights and freedom grabber. No wonder you are smitten with Obama. |
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On 9/12/11 11:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:22:35 -0400, X ` wrote: On 9/12/11 9:14 PM, wrote: Self absorbed non smokers demand access to both buildings because they think they are missing something. Yes they are ... the fun people. The "fun people" aren't smokers. Smokers smell bad, they pollute the air with their stench, their smoke ruins the taste of food, the smoke sticks to your hair and your clothes *and* it is not healthy. Then why is it so important that you go into a bar that allows smoking? Nobody said allowing a bar owner to allow smoking meant ANY of them have to. Let the bar owner decide who he wants to cater to. 1. It's not important that I go into a bar that allows smoking. I don't go into bars, usually. Many of the restaurants we frequent, however, have bars as part of their facilities. 2. I'm grateful that in Maryland and DC, restaurants and other public facilities and office buildings do not allow smoking. Because of that I don't have to smell the stench of tobacco smoke. Smokers, especially cigarette smokers, smell bad and their residue smells bad. 3. The regs are a bit less stringent in Virginia, but I believe most restaurants do not allow smoking. About the only Virginia restaurants we frequent are in Virginia Beach, and I haven't noticed the stench of tobacco smoke in the restaurants down there for some time. 4. I'd like to see the local sheriffs enforce the anti-litter laws against smokers who toss their cigarette/cigar butts out the windows of their cars, or empty their ashtrays on the street when they are stopped for traffic lights. I see that sort of irresponsible behavior frequently. A few hundred $500 fines assessed every week might help force decent behavior on smokers. I know the sheriffs stop and ticket motorists who toss fast food wrappers and cups out the window. 5. I'd like to see the growing, manufacturing and sale of tobacco products made illegal in this country and made illegal for U.S. companies selling tobacco products abroad. Absent that, I'd like to see another $5 a pack tax imposed against cigarettes and a suitable increase in the tax assessed against cigars, "dip," and similar tobacco products. Have a nice, smoke-free day! -- I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the powerful. |
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On 9/13/11 8:03 AM, BAR wrote:
In , says... 5. I'd like to see the growing, manufacturing and sale of tobacco products made illegal in this country and made illegal for U.S. companies selling tobacco products abroad. Absent that, I'd like to see another $5 a pack tax imposed against cigarettes and a suitable increase in the tax assessed against cigars, "dip," and similar tobacco products. Have a nice, smoke-free day! You are just like the people at my church who don't like gambling. They went to the parish pastor and told him that Bingo was gambling and that it was a sin and that they wanted the Friday night Bingo stopped. The pastor, a wise Catholic priest, said to them that he would be happy to shut down Bingo every Friday night if they would write a $10,000 check to the church each month. Bingo is still played every Friday night. Alcohol is just as bad as tobacco why not make both illegal? Then you and your buddies who think the same way can then write big fat checks to the local, state and federal governments to cover the lost tax revenue. There are worlds of difference between gambling and smoking and even drinking. You can gamble in moderation, you can drink in moderation, and if you are careful, you aren't going to kill yourself or others. Smoking in moderation will still lead to cancer. Your moderate gambling and your moderate drinking (that means, of course, no drinking and driving) aren't going to have any impact on me. Your smoking does...it offends my senses and if I am exposed to enough second-hand smoke, it also presents a health hazard and, of course, once you contract one of the smoking-related cancers, it's going to increase my medical insurance costs. Because of my union business, I have to go to Las Vegas frequently. I don't gamble, but I'm not offended by the acres of slot machines and card games in every casino. I walk right by them without giving up a quarter. Well, that's not entirely true. I might drop a single quarter in a slot machine, usually at the bloody awful Las Vegas airport. I am pleased that smoking in restaurants in Maryland has been banned. It's pleasant to enjoy a meal without having to inhale the stench of cigarettes or cigars. -- I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the powerful. |
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In article ,
says... On 9/13/11 8:03 AM, BAR wrote: In , says... 5. I'd like to see the growing, manufacturing and sale of tobacco products made illegal in this country and made illegal for U.S. companies selling tobacco products abroad. Absent that, I'd like to see another $5 a pack tax imposed against cigarettes and a suitable increase in the tax assessed against cigars, "dip," and similar tobacco products. Have a nice, smoke-free day! You are just like the people at my church who don't like gambling. They went to the parish pastor and told him that Bingo was gambling and that it was a sin and that they wanted the Friday night Bingo stopped. The pastor, a wise Catholic priest, said to them that he would be happy to shut down Bingo every Friday night if they would write a $10,000 check to the church each month. Bingo is still played every Friday night. Alcohol is just as bad as tobacco why not make both illegal? Then you and your buddies who think the same way can then write big fat checks to the local, state and federal governments to cover the lost tax revenue. There are worlds of difference between gambling and smoking and even drinking. You can gamble in moderation, you can drink in moderation, and if you are careful, you aren't going to kill yourself or others. Smoking in moderation will still lead to cancer. It MIGHT lead to cancer, some people smoke most of their lives with little complication. Your moderate gambling and your moderate drinking (that means, of course, no drinking and driving) aren't going to have any impact on me. Your smoking does...it offends my senses and if I am exposed to enough second-hand smoke, it also presents a health hazard and, of course, once you contract one of the smoking-related cancers, it's going to increase my medical insurance costs. What about cancers from other things? Should we ban everything that causes or may cause cancer? Air? Auto pollution? The sun? Because of my union business, I have to go to Las Vegas frequently. I don't gamble, but I'm not offended by the acres of slot machines and card games in every casino. I walk right by them without giving up a quarter. Well, that's not entirely true. I might drop a single quarter in a slot machine, usually at the bloody awful Las Vegas airport. I am pleased that smoking in restaurants in Maryland has been banned. It's pleasant to enjoy a meal without having to inhale the stench of cigarettes or cigars. |
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