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Drifter[_2_] September 9th 11 12:47 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/8/2011 7:41 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 07:45:33 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 9/8/11 2:22 AM,
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On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 13:32:41 -0700,
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On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 15:55:10 -0400,
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On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 10:42:54 -0700,
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On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:44:07 -0400,
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On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 06:13:03 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

http://thechronicleherald.ca/Metro/1261953.html


That will just raise the cost of everything you buy from any store.
Insurance companies spread this risk to all of us. The Lawyer takes
his 33-50% and keeps it all himself.

Thus, someone shouldn't be compensated for her injuries?

We are not really sure what "injuries" she has. You seem to like to
assess degrees of blame. What is her degree of negligence for not
getting out of the way?

I agree! That's why we need courts and attorneys in the crucible of
jurisprudence.


I thought this would fall under the "cost of doing business" category.

That was my point. Everyone who buys anything from any store will be
paying for this. It simply gets passed along by the insurance
companies. That in turn shows up in the prices of products you buy
from the stores because they all have to buy that insurance.

They also have to pay for termite inspectors, lighting and heating,
and garbage removal services. So what??


You folks are cheering for this woman's windfall. Do you cheer for
termites too?



You want to give corporations a free ride on the results of their
negligence?



Do you think Jim or Christy Walton will pay a dime of this judgement?
Do you think the stock will take a hit?
The worst thing that happens is a 3 pound box of rice might go up a
penny or two. Corporations don't pay for anything, their customers do.


This Harry character must be as dumb as a box of rocks.

Drifter[_2_] September 9th 11 12:50 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/8/2011 7:43 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 10:12:36 -0700,
wrote:

You seriously believe that all costs are passed along to the consumer?
All costs? Feel free to try and defend that statement.


Yes I do. Unless the company wants to lose money and nobody wants to
do that. Anything as inelastic as insurance premiums gets spread
universally so all prices just go up.


It's either that or pay the stockholders less. Which would you choose
if you were COTB.

[email protected] September 9th 11 03:13 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 20:31:59 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 16:23:19 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/09/2011 11:12 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 02:21:07 -0400,
wrote:



You seriously believe that all costs are passed along to the consumer?
All costs? Feel free to try and defend that statement.

As I actually said, the "insurance claims are.. a tiny piece of the
pie."


Ultimately yep, all costs will be passed on to the consumer. Take oil,
go ahead, slap a $90/barrel tax on oil and watch the pump prices double
or more.


A classic example was the massive judgement against the cigarette
companies. Shortly after that Altria posted record profits.


I doubt there's much causation between the two. Feel free to provide
some facts that support this causation.

[email protected] September 9th 11 03:16 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:43:39 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 10:12:36 -0700,
wrote:

You seriously believe that all costs are passed along to the consumer?
All costs? Feel free to try and defend that statement.


Yes I do. Unless the company wants to lose money and nobody wants to
do that. Anything as inelastic as insurance premiums gets spread
universally so all prices just go up.


So, I guess you never heard of how the Japanese dumped chips onto the
market below cost. Did they "lose money" in the long term because of
this? No.

As is normally the case, there are very few situations when "all" or
"every" as a qualifier are fact based.

[email protected] September 9th 11 03:18 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:41:19 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 07:45:33 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 9/8/11 2:22 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 13:32:41 -0700,
wrote:

On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 15:55:10 -0400,
wrote:

On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 10:42:54 -0700,
wrote:

On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:44:07 -0400,
wrote:

On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 06:13:03 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

http://thechronicleherald.ca/Metro/1261953.html


That will just raise the cost of everything you buy from any store.
Insurance companies spread this risk to all of us. The Lawyer takes
his 33-50% and keeps it all himself.

Thus, someone shouldn't be compensated for her injuries?

We are not really sure what "injuries" she has. You seem to like to
assess degrees of blame. What is her degree of negligence for not
getting out of the way?

I agree! That's why we need courts and attorneys in the crucible of
jurisprudence.


I thought this would fall under the "cost of doing business" category.

That was my point. Everyone who buys anything from any store will be
paying for this. It simply gets passed along by the insurance
companies. That in turn shows up in the prices of products you buy
from the stores because they all have to buy that insurance.

They also have to pay for termite inspectors, lighting and heating,
and garbage removal services. So what??


You folks are cheering for this woman's windfall. Do you cheer for
termites too?



You want to give corporations a free ride on the results of their
negligence?



Do you think Jim or Christy Walton will pay a dime of this judgement?
Do you think the stock will take a hit?
The worst thing that happens is a 3 pound box of rice might go up a
penny or two. Corporations don't pay for anything, their customers do.


This is such a bull**** argument. According to this logic, no law, no
regulation, no tax, no civil judgment should be imposed because "the
consumer pays eventually." It's just sophistry and has no place in an
honest discussion about someone being injured.

[email protected] September 9th 11 03:19 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:46:59 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 10:13:57 -0700,
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 02:22:20 -0400,
wrote:

On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 13:32:41 -0700,
wrote:

On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 15:55:10 -0400,
wrote:



That was my point. Everyone who buys anything from any store will be
paying for this. It simply gets passed along by the insurance
companies. That in turn shows up in the prices of products you buy
from the stores because they all have to buy that insurance.

They also have to pay for termite inspectors, lighting and heating,
and garbage removal services. So what??


You folks are cheering for this woman's windfall. Do you cheer for
termites too?


Cheering? She was injured. Apparently, no compensation is justified by
you?


Why didn't she sue the shoplifter?
How about the rentacop company that hired the guard?
Oh I forgot, you always sue the deepest pocket, no matter what their
degree of negligence.


Oh I forgot, you don't know anything about the case or the law for
that matter.

[email protected] September 9th 11 03:21 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:55:28 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 06:13:03 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

http://thechronicleherald.ca/Metro/1261953.html

WTF!
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/15/wa...-store-gunman/


Sounds like an idiot manager. Sheesh!

Since it's from 2011, I wonder what eventually happened.

[email protected] September 9th 11 06:11 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 22:42:00 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:13:56 -0700,
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 20:31:59 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 16:23:19 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/09/2011 11:12 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 02:21:07 -0400,
wrote:


You seriously believe that all costs are passed along to the consumer?
All costs? Feel free to try and defend that statement.

As I actually said, the "insurance claims are.. a tiny piece of the
pie."

Ultimately yep, all costs will be passed on to the consumer. Take oil,
go ahead, slap a $90/barrel tax on oil and watch the pump prices double
or more.

A classic example was the massive judgement against the cigarette
companies. Shortly after that Altria posted record profits.


I doubt there's much causation between the two. Feel free to provide
some facts that support this causation.


They certainly passed all the costs on to the customer, plus a huge
profit.


The cost being lung cancer. Of course, they don't need to be
regulated, right? The consumer should be able to figure it out without
any help from the gov't. Why they can just stop, and if they can't,
they must be weak-minded and deserve to get sick. - this is the
mantra of the right, including Ron (non-St.) Paul.

BAR[_2_] September 9th 11 12:46 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 16:23:19 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/09/2011 11:12 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 02:21:07 -0400,
wrote:



You seriously believe that all costs are passed along to the consumer?
All costs? Feel free to try and defend that statement.

As I actually said, the "insurance claims are.. a tiny piece of the
pie."


Ultimately yep, all costs will be passed on to the consumer. Take oil,
go ahead, slap a $90/barrel tax on oil and watch the pump prices double
or more.


A classic example was the massive judgement against the cigarette
companies. Shortly after that Altria posted record profits.


It is amazinig what business can do when they do not have an unknown
hanging over their head.



Drifter[_2_] September 9th 11 02:24 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/9/2011 1:11 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 22:42:00 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:13:56 -0700,
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 20:31:59 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 16:23:19 -0600,
wrote:

On 08/09/2011 11:12 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 02:21:07 -0400,
wrote:


You seriously believe that all costs are passed along to the consumer?
All costs? Feel free to try and defend that statement.

As I actually said, the "insurance claims are.. a tiny piece of the
pie."

Ultimately yep, all costs will be passed on to the consumer. Take oil,
go ahead, slap a $90/barrel tax on oil and watch the pump prices double
or more.

A classic example was the massive judgement against the cigarette
companies. Shortly after that Altria posted record profits.

I doubt there's much causation between the two. Feel free to provide
some facts that support this causation.


They certainly passed all the costs on to the customer, plus a huge
profit.


The cost being lung cancer. Of course, they don't need to be
regulated, right? The consumer should be able to figure it out without
any help from the gov't. Why they can just stop, and if they can't,
they must be weak-minded and deserve to get sick.- this is the
mantra of the right, including Ron (non-St.) Paul.


IS THE GUBMINT *STILL* SUBSIDIZING TOBACCO COMPANIES WHILE THE SURGEON
GENERAL WARNS ABOUT THE DANGERS OF TOBACCO.


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