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[email protected] September 12th 11 07:21 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:25:12 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:42:27 -0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:26:07 -0400,
wrote:

As I said, the tobacco companies don't seem to care. Also, does this
mean you believe in certain gov't intrusion? I'm shocked!

There are plenty of laws about a lot of thongs kids can't do,.. I have
no problem with that. It is when you start telling consenting adults
they can't do things that bother me.


Thongs? Heh...

I have a great deal of problems allowing people to jeopardize my
health in the name of their "freedom" to smoke or whatever.


Things thongs whatever ;-)

Your health is not in jeopardy if you see the sign "smoking permitted"
and say "I will never go in that place".


So, now you're going to mandate businesses put up signs? I think
you'll find that the vast majority of people do not want to breathe
second hand smoke. How are you going to put up signs in a mall? Of
course, no regulation is what you really want. Zero. You don't care
about the environment, other people's health, corporate raiding, etc.
Even Greenspan didn't think fraud was something that should be
regulated. Of course, he's changed his tune lately.

Drifter[_2_] September 12th 11 12:24 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/11/2011 9:26 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:38:12 -0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:45:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:10:10 -0700,
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:11:30 -0400,
wrote:


Read up on fantasy and get back to me.


The settlement was with the attorneys general of the states involved
and specified that this was going to be the end of it.

I am sure there might be some individual who might try to take on
Altria after this but they would get ground up and spit out. The idea
that anyone on the planet has not seen the warning on the side of a
cigarette pack is ludicrous.

Which has nothing to do with fantasy that lawsuits should be known
about in advance.

How many suits have there been since the settlement?


What difference does that make? Tell me about how many lawsuits are
known about in advance. I notice you keep avoiding telling me.

I suppose you consider 12 year olds cognizant of the dangers of cigar
smoke also. Typical "libertarian" nonsense.

12 year olds are prohibited by law from smoking.


As I said, the tobacco companies don't seem to care. Also, does this
mean you believe in certain gov't intrusion? I'm shocked!


There are plenty of laws about a lot of thongs kids can't do,.. I have
no problem with that. It is when you start telling consenting adults
they can't do things that bother me.


Thongs Greg? She must be putting some scary hinky thoughts into your
head. Don't let her control you. She's evil, you know.
Don't let these things bother you Greg. THEY have been telling
consulting adults what they can or can't do for some time now. Get with
the program.

Drifter[_2_] September 12th 11 12:29 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/11/2011 9:26 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/11/2011 9:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:32:49 -0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:37:01 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:05:13 -0700,
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:07:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 11:49:58 -0700,
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 10:57:56 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 08:34:20 -0400, wrote:

I think they should be able to put up a sign that says "this is a
smoking establishment, if you don't like it, get even with me and
spend your money somewhere else."

Smokers shouldn't go where people are unless they refrain from
exhaling.

If a privately owned place is clearly marked "smoking allowed",
don't
go there. It is called freedom of choice.

You do not have the right not to be offended, particularly on
someone
elses property.

A privately owned place that is open to the public, is quite
different
than a privately owned place like your home.

That is simply a perversion of the law.

It is not. It's been pretty well upheld by the courts.

I bet you would support the right of a restaurant owner to refuse
admittance of a person wearing a T shirt that said "Kill all the
fags" or something else offensive.

Don't have to, since most restaurants can refuse service to people who
are disruptive.


So public accommodation is not an absolute.

"Disruptive" is certainly an abstract assumption.

Have I ever said that is was? No shirt, no shoes, and now (in San
Francisco) no pants, no service.



That is discriminatory too.

I saw a sign yesterday that said

MEN, No shirt no service.

WOMEN No shirt, Free Beer.


I remember when the "leather jacket" fight went down here in CT. The law
supported leather jackets in all establishments, but they could make you
take off your jacket if it had rockers (above and below club colors on a
leather, usually depicts the club name and territory). When I first met
my wife we went out a lot in leather but I would usually grab a manager
to the side before we went into a restaurant with my leather on
anyway... Never had one say no, but they usually liked the idea that we
asked.


Get ready for a rude comment from Krause. He thinks leathers should only
be worn in the bedroom, and only by whoever is playing the female part.

Drifter[_2_] September 12th 11 12:30 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/11/2011 9:27 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:09:54 -0400, wrote:

On 9/11/2011 4:38 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:45:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:10:10 -0700,
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:11:30 -0400,
wrote:


Read up on fantasy and get back to me.


The settlement was with the attorneys general of the states involved
and specified that this was going to be the end of it.

I am sure there might be some individual who might try to take on
Altria after this but they would get ground up and spit out. The idea
that anyone on the planet has not seen the warning on the side of a
cigarette pack is ludicrous.

Which has nothing to do with fantasy that lawsuits should be known
about in advance.

How many suits have there been since the settlement?

What difference does that make? Tell me about how many lawsuits are
known about in advance. I notice you keep avoiding telling me.

I suppose you consider 12 year olds cognizant of the dangers of cigar
smoke also. Typical "libertarian" nonsense.

12 year olds are prohibited by law from smoking.

As I said, the tobacco companies don't seem to care. Also, does this
mean you believe in certain gov't intrusion? I'm shocked!


You're shocked at Greg doing a flippy floppy? Why? He has to in order to
stay opposed to you.


It is not necessary Plume will always disagree with anything I say.
That is why it is fun playing with her. I can usually get her arguing
with herself before it is over.


We've seen that happen. Quite funny actually.

Drifter[_2_] September 12th 11 12:43 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/11/2011 9:41 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:27:51 -0400,
wrote:

And, I usually get you to make up some false equivalent to justify and
untenable position...

Example:

Me: The stars are far away.
You: So is my cigar.


My cigar LaPlume? Is that what you call it. You should take it out of
tour nightstand and play with it.

You talked about people going into places where they serve peanuts as
an example of companies stopping service of them, as though that never
happens. I pointed you to a specific example. Now, you're claiming
there isn't a law about it. So? There could be a lawsuit about it,
might have already been one. Feel free to do the research, since
you're so dedicated. I think I'll feel good about no-smoking bans.

Which one of you birds made the above comment?
I want you to know that I am strictly opposed to bans on no-smoking.

Drifter[_2_] September 12th 11 12:51 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/11/2011 9:42 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:26:07 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:38:12 -0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:45:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:10:10 -0700,
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:11:30 -0400,
wrote:


Read up on fantasy and get back to me.


The settlement was with the attorneys general of the states involved
and specified that this was going to be the end of it.

I am sure there might be some individual who might try to take on
Altria after this but they would get ground up and spit out. The idea
that anyone on the planet has not seen the warning on the side of a
cigarette pack is ludicrous.

Which has nothing to do with fantasy that lawsuits should be known
about in advance.

How many suits have there been since the settlement?

What difference does that make? Tell me about how many lawsuits are
known about in advance. I notice you keep avoiding telling me.

I suppose you consider 12 year olds cognizant of the dangers of cigar
smoke also. Typical "libertarian" nonsense.

12 year olds are prohibited by law from smoking.

As I said, the tobacco companies don't seem to care. Also, does this
mean you believe in certain gov't intrusion? I'm shocked!


There are plenty of laws about a lot of thongs kids can't do,.. I have
no problem with that. It is when you start telling consenting adults
they can't do things that bother me.


Thongs? Heh...

I have a great deal of problems allowing people to jeopardize my
health in the name of their "freedom" to smoke or whatever.


Well dearie, get used to the idea of people jeopardizing your health
with smoke and other things. There isn't much you can do about it except
avoid the places where people are exercising their freedom. IOW mind
your own ****ing business.

Drifter[_2_] September 12th 11 12:54 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/12/2011 12:25 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:42:27 -0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:26:07 -0400,
wrote:

As I said, the tobacco companies don't seem to care. Also, does this
mean you believe in certain gov't intrusion? I'm shocked!

There are plenty of laws about a lot of thongs kids can't do,.. I have
no problem with that. It is when you start telling consenting adults
they can't do things that bother me.


Thongs? Heh...

I have a great deal of problems allowing people to jeopardize my
health in the name of their "freedom" to smoke or whatever.


Things thongs whatever ;-)

Your health is not in jeopardy if you see the sign "smoking permitted"
and say "I will never go in that place".


She would never go into a place like that unescorted.

Drifter[_2_] September 12th 11 12:59 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/12/2011 2:19 AM, wrote:

You have a strange notion of "discrimination." As I said, your rights
end when you infringe on mine.


You better have a clear understanding of what your rights are sweet
cheeks. Otherwise watch what you say.

Drifter[_2_] September 12th 11 01:02 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/12/2011 2:21 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:25:12 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:42:27 -0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:26:07 -0400,
wrote:

As I said, the tobacco companies don't seem to care. Also, does this
mean you believe in certain gov't intrusion? I'm shocked!

There are plenty of laws about a lot of thongs kids can't do,.. I have
no problem with that. It is when you start telling consenting adults
they can't do things that bother me.

Thongs? Heh...

I have a great deal of problems allowing people to jeopardize my
health in the name of their "freedom" to smoke or whatever.


Things thongs whatever ;-)

Your health is not in jeopardy if you see the sign "smoking permitted"
and say "I will never go in that place".


So, now you're going to mandate businesses put up signs? I think
you'll find that the vast majority of people do not want to breathe
second hand smoke. How are you going to put up signs in a mall? Of
course, no regulation is what you really want. Zero. You don't care
about the environment, other people's health, corporate raiding, etc.
Even Greenspan didn't think fraud was something that should be
regulated. Of course, he's changed his tune lately.


It's late and you're stepping on your tongue now. Put the bong away and
get some sleep.

JustWait September 12th 11 02:57 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/12/2011 7:51 AM, Drifter wrote:
On 9/11/2011 9:42 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:26:07 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:38:12 -0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:45:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:10:10 -0700,
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:11:30 -0400,
wrote:


Read up on fantasy and get back to me.


The settlement was with the attorneys general of the states involved
and specified that this was going to be the end of it.

I am sure there might be some individual who might try to take on
Altria after this but they would get ground up and spit out. The
idea
that anyone on the planet has not seen the warning on the side of a
cigarette pack is ludicrous.

Which has nothing to do with fantasy that lawsuits should be known
about in advance.

How many suits have there been since the settlement?

What difference does that make? Tell me about how many lawsuits are
known about in advance. I notice you keep avoiding telling me.

I suppose you consider 12 year olds cognizant of the dangers of cigar
smoke also. Typical "libertarian" nonsense.

12 year olds are prohibited by law from smoking.

As I said, the tobacco companies don't seem to care. Also, does this
mean you believe in certain gov't intrusion? I'm shocked!

There are plenty of laws about a lot of thongs kids can't do,.. I have
no problem with that. It is when you start telling consenting adults
they can't do things that bother me.


Thongs? Heh...

I have a great deal of problems allowing people to jeopardize my
health in the name of their "freedom" to smoke or whatever.


Well dearie, get used to the idea of people jeopardizing your health
with smoke and other things. There isn't much you can do about it except
avoid the places where people are exercising their freedom. IOW mind
your own ****ing business.


Quite frankly, I am more concerned with mom texting behind the wheel of
the SUV than I am second hand smoke... Talk about someone else gambling
with "my" like...


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