On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:21:41 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 12:28:20 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 14:39:27 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 09:08:34 -0700, wrote:

The fact remains our exports are far exceeded by our imports.
Until we start repatriating more of our dollars, we are just moving
the deck chairs around on the Titanic.

As usual, you can't even support your own arguments. Our exports
exceed our imports? Actually, it's the reverse, but it's not "far
exceeded". It's about $1.3T export to about $2T import.

Read what I wrote again

"The fact remains our exports are far exceeded by our imports."

It is easy to say I am wrong if you can't ****ing read.

Using your numbers ($700B more in imports) I think 153% is "far
exceeded".

My apologies. I'm just used to you muddling the facts when you try to
make your "****ing" arguments. Thanks for being civil.

As I said, there an imbalance, but it's not out of line historically,
as per 2002.

http://www.marktaw.com/culture_and_m...deDeficit.html

Try again.

When did I say this was a recent problem?
You do notice when the current slide really started tho.
(1997-1998)

You didn't, but you implied that it somehow has to be fixed
immediately. It doesn't. It's a long term problem that needs long term
solutions.

The short term problem is unemployment, which is easily fixed if the
Republicans were actually interested in anything more than the next
election.

On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 01:25:02 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:38:48 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:21:41 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 12:28:20 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 14:39:27 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 09:08:34 -0700, wrote:

The fact remains our exports are far exceeded by our imports.
Until we start repatriating more of our dollars, we are just moving
the deck chairs around on the Titanic.

As usual, you can't even support your own arguments. Our exports
exceed our imports? Actually, it's the reverse, but it's not "far
exceeded". It's about $1.3T export to about $2T import.

Read what I wrote again

"The fact remains our exports are far exceeded by our imports."

It is easy to say I am wrong if you can't ****ing read.

Using your numbers ($700B more in imports) I think 153% is "far
exceeded".

My apologies. I'm just used to you muddling the facts when you try to
make your "****ing" arguments. Thanks for being civil.

As I said, there an imbalance, but it's not out of line historically,
as per 2002.

http://www.marktaw.com/culture_and_m...deDeficit.html

Try again.

When did I say this was a recent problem?
You do notice when the current slide really started tho.
(1997-1998)

You didn't, but you implied that it somehow has to be fixed
immediately. It doesn't. It's a long term problem that needs long term
solutions.

The short term problem is unemployment, which is easily fixed if the
Republicans were actually interested in anything more than the next
election.


Easily fixed? You better call Washington because I have not seen any
easy fixes coming from them. This "infrastructure" thing is just
****ing on the fire. FDR and Hoover did infrastructure projects for 10
years and we still had a hell of a depression 10 years later.

No, Hoover did it in 1930 for a few years. Then, he pulled back,
restricted the money supply, etc. FDR did infrastructure also, but
pulled back on it too soon. FDR's infrastructure projects reduced
unemployment significantly, and they would if continued have
eventually got us out of the Depression.

As usual, there's no comparison between the Depression and what's
going on now. But, that doesn't stop you from making it a comparison
to deny the fact that we need a massive, gov't instigated jobs
program.

Now if we just could trick the rest of the world into blowing
themselves up in a war that does not touch us like FDR did for his
great success we would be able to recreate our success of the 50s and
60s.

As I said, you're mixing two different things, which seems to be your
style.

The post war Americans were born on 3d base and think they hit a
triple.

No idea what this is supposed to mean. Some kind of put down for
people who worked hard between the end of the war and now?

On Sep 7, 3:09*am, wrote:
On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 01:25:02 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:38:48 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:21:41 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 12:28:20 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 14:39:27 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 09:08:34 -0700, wrote:

The fact remains our exports are far exceeded by our imports.
Until we start repatriating more of our dollars, we are just moving
the deck chairs around on the Titanic.

As usual, you can't even support your own arguments. Our exports
exceed our imports? Actually, it's the reverse, but it's not "far
exceeded". It's about $1.3T export to about $2T import.

Read what I wrote again

"The fact remains our exports are far exceeded by our imports."

It is easy to say I am wrong if you can't ****ing read.

Using your numbers ($700B more in imports) I think 153% is "far
exceeded".

My apologies. I'm just used to you muddling the facts when you try to
make your "****ing" arguments. Thanks for being civil.

As I said, there an imbalance, but it's not out of line historically,
as per 2002.

http://www.marktaw.com/culture_and_m...deDeficit.html

Try again.

When did I say this was a recent problem?
You do notice when the current slide really started tho.
(1997-1998)

You didn't, but you implied that it somehow has to be fixed
immediately. It doesn't. It's a long term problem that needs long term
solutions.

The short term problem is unemployment, which is easily fixed if the
Republicans were actually interested in anything more than the next
election.

Easily fixed? You better call Washington because I have not seen any
easy fixes coming from them. This "infrastructure" thing is just
****ing on the fire. FDR and Hoover did infrastructure projects for 10
years and we still had a hell of a depression 10 years later.

No, Hoover did it in 1930 for a few years. Then, he pulled back,
restricted the money supply, etc. FDR did infrastructure also, but
pulled back on it too soon. FDR's infrastructure projects reduced
unemployment significantly, and they would if continued have
eventually got us out of the Depression.

As usual, there's no comparison between the Depression and what's
going on now. But, that doesn't stop you from making it a comparison
to deny the fact that we need a massive, gov't instigated jobs
program.

Now if we just could trick the rest of the world into blowing
themselves up in a war that does not touch us like FDR did for his
great success we would be able to recreate our success of the 50s and
60s.

As I said, you're mixing two different things, which seems to be your
style.

The post war Americans were born on 3d base and think they hit a
triple.

No idea what this is supposed to mean. Some kind of put down for
people who worked hard between the end of the war and now?

Of course you don't know what it means, D'Plume. You didn't have to
have a brain to goose-step to the Obama drum.

On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 14:47:59 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 9/6/11 2:39 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 09:08:34 -0700, wrote:

The fact remains our exports are far exceeded by our imports.
Until we start repatriating more of our dollars, we are just moving
the deck chairs around on the Titanic.

As usual, you can't even support your own arguments. Our exports
exceed our imports? Actually, it's the reverse, but it's not "far
exceeded". It's about $1.3T export to about $2T import.

Read what I wrote again

"The fact remains our exports are far exceeded by our imports."

It is easy to say I am wrong if you can't ****ing read.

Using your numbers ($700B more in imports) I think 153% is "far
exceeded".



Speaking of exports versus imports, I happened to be at a big box home
and hardware store recently and was looking at washing machines. I
didn't look at every single machine or every box in the display of
shipping cartons there, but I looked at at least 20...and not one
machine there, no matter the brand, was manufactured in the USA.

I'm not saying there are no washing machines still manufactured in the
USA, because not every brand was represented at the store, but many,
many brands were.

Kind of a sad commentary. Some of the best-finished machines I looked at
were manufactured in Korea.

The ones with the union label no longer exist.

On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 15:41:18 -0400, Your Name Here wrote:

On 9/6/11 12:10 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 9/6/2011 11:26 AM, Your Name Here wrote:
On 9/6/11 10:22 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/6/11 10:18 AM, wrote:

My son in law is in law school too. He said he is tired of being poor,
trying to save the environment and he is switching sides.
As they say about lawyers. "you can do good or you can do well, pick
one"

That's too bad. He was probably bright enough to do something useful.


http://ncsss.cua.edu/degree-field/phd/2011grads.cfm

Harry, tell us about your beautiful young bride.

Not a pleasant looking face in the bunch. I counted 4 chins on the red
head with the fake smile.

Yup, I guess Harry figures that was the best he had ever had, so she
must be beautiful. Damn Dr. Karen Grear is a dog. I wonder when she
is going to finish the rest of her Dr. Dr. degrees.

See Wayne's comment above.

On 9/7/11 9:31 AM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 14:47:59 -0400, X ` wrote:

On 9/6/11 2:39 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 09:08:34 -0700, wrote:

The fact remains our exports are far exceeded by our imports.
Until we start repatriating more of our dollars, we are just moving
the deck chairs around on the Titanic.

As usual, you can't even support your own arguments. Our exports
exceed our imports? Actually, it's the reverse, but it's not "far
exceeded". It's about $1.3T export to about $2T import.

Read what I wrote again

"The fact remains our exports are far exceeded by our imports."

It is easy to say I am wrong if you can't ****ing read.

Using your numbers ($700B more in imports) I think 153% is "far
exceeded".



Speaking of exports versus imports, I happened to be at a big box home
and hardware store recently and was looking at washing machines. I
didn't look at every single machine or every box in the display of
shipping cartons there, but I looked at at least 20...and not one
machine there, no matter the brand, was manufactured in the USA.

I'm not saying there are no washing machines still manufactured in the
USA, because not every brand was represented at the store, but many,
many brands were.

Kind of a sad commentary. Some of the best-finished machines I looked at
were manufactured in Korea.

The ones with the union label no longer exist.


As a matter of fact, you are wrong. Many appliances manufactured abroad
are built by unionized workers.

--
I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the
powerful.

On 9/7/11 9:40 AM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 15:41:18 -0400, Your Name wrote:

On 9/6/11 12:10 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 9/6/2011 11:26 AM, Your Name Here wrote:
On 9/6/11 10:22 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/6/11 10:18 AM, wrote:

My son in law is in law school too. He said he is tired of being poor,
trying to save the environment and he is switching sides.
As they say about lawyers. "you can do good or you can do well, pick
one"

That's too bad. He was probably bright enough to do something useful.


http://ncsss.cua.edu/degree-field/phd/2011grads.cfm

Harry, tell us about your beautiful young bride.

Not a pleasant looking face in the bunch. I counted 4 chins on the red
head with the fake smile.

Yup, I guess Harry figures that was the best he had ever had, so she
must be beautiful. Damn Dr. Karen Grear is a dog. I wonder when she
is going to finish the rest of her Dr. Dr. degrees.

See Wayne's comment above.

I don't understand why you are concerned, Harry definitely isn't
concerned, he brings up his wife on a regular basis.

On 9/7/2011 12:40 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 01:09:10 -0700, wrote:

No that is only to indicate why we somehow think we are invincible and
nothing bad could ever happen to us.
We have 3 generations of people who have never actually had anything
bad happen to them.

You are certainly one of those in denial that anything bad could
happen when we keep printing money and sending it offshore.

She is a benefactor of the cloudless Obama sky.

On 9/7/2011 12:57 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:41:37 -0700, wrote:

http://www.truth-out.org/three-chart...law/1314626142

Federal spending dramatically increased under former president, George
W. Bush and it has not increased much under President Obama.


How about this graphic from MSNBC

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/msnbc%20on%20jobs.jpg

No wonder his photo looks like he just ate a sour pickle.

On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:40:18 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 01:09:10 -0700, wrote:

Easily fixed? You better call Washington because I have not seen any
easy fixes coming from them. This "infrastructure" thing is just
****ing on the fire. FDR and Hoover did infrastructure projects for 10
years and we still had a hell of a depression 10 years later.

No, Hoover did it in 1930 for a few years. Then, he pulled back,
restricted the money supply, etc. FDR did infrastructure also, but
pulled back on it too soon. FDR's infrastructure projects reduced
unemployment significantly, and they would if continued have
eventually got us out of the Depression.

Bull****. The war got us out of the depression.

Yes, the war did. However, FDR's programs would have if he didn't pull
back on them. Read up.

As usual, there's no comparison between the Depression and what's
going on now. But, that doesn't stop you from making it a comparison
to deny the fact that we need a massive, gov't instigated jobs
program.

A massive jobs program still will not get our money back from overseas
and that is the root of our problems.

That is a LONG TERM problem. We have a SHORT TERM job problem. Try
again.


Now if we just could trick the rest of the world into blowing
themselves up in a war that does not touch us like FDR did for his
great success we would be able to recreate our success of the 50s and
60s.

As I said, you're mixing two different things, which seems to be your
style.

Not at all, you were talking about what ended the depression.

Nope. I wasn't. I was talking about programs that worked during the
Depression.


The post war Americans were born on 3d base and think they hit a
triple.

No idea what this is supposed to mean. Some kind of put down for
people who worked hard between the end of the war and now?

No that is only to indicate why we somehow think we are invincible and
nothing bad could ever happen to us.
We have 3 generations of people who have never actually had anything
bad happen to them.

Really? Nothing? You can't think of a single thing, say in the last 10
years? Try to come out of your hole once every decade. The air is
fine! :-)

You are certainly one of those in denial that anything bad could
happen when we keep printing money and sending it offshore.

As usual, you deliberately mis-read what I said. See above under LONG
TERM vs. SHORT TERM.