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three charts for Republicans who are not crazy
On 05/09/2011 11:01 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 01:23:37 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 21:18:25 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 23:42:21 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:33:39 -0700, wrote: The fact is, unemployment was 7.3% on 1/1/09 and it is 9.1% now. BLS says there was no net job creation last month. I am not sure what data they cherry picked to create those charts. They're called facts. Those are the things that were "cherry picked." You have a chart showing job growth and unemployment went up 13.14% (For the math challenged, 9.1 - 7.3 = 1.8 7.3/1.8 = 13.14%) You have to be very careful to reject a lot of facts and only use the ones that result in your agenda, AKA "cherry picking", to produce that chart. I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers, but the chart in question clearly shows that job growth has been pretty steadily climbing since Jan. 09. No "unemployment" numbers chart was included, so you're getting that from somewhere else. That's fine, but there is likely only a correlation between job growth and unemployment not a causation effect. As I said, these three charts are hard to dispute. So far, you haven't been very successful in doing so. Job growth is not keeping up with population growth but if you actually did "tons of research"(or any research at all) you would know that. Instead you just post things you get in an Email and call them facts. http://metricmash.com/unemployment.a...de=LNS13327709 And, you blame who for this? Assuming this is true, this still has nothing to do with the fact that the stim created jobs, the trend is UP not DOWN (as under Bush) and that Obama is "to blame" for that. http://www.truth-out.org/three-chart...law/1314626142 Feel free to continue to be a jerk in your language to me. I'm sure it makes you feel good. Those charts are pure fleabagger bull****. No talk of ponzi fraudsters Bernanke or the democrat 2006 congress **** ups. Fact s USA is broke and can no longer pay its bills with real money. Bernanke has to electronically counterfeit it in the ruse of US treasury solvency. Just a huge fraud. -- If it is all Bush's fault, then how come Obama is doing much more of the same and expecting different results? |
#23
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three charts for Republicans who are not crazy
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 11:23:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 05/09/2011 11:01 AM, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 01:23:37 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 21:18:25 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 23:42:21 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:33:39 -0700, wrote: The fact is, unemployment was 7.3% on 1/1/09 and it is 9.1% now. BLS says there was no net job creation last month. I am not sure what data they cherry picked to create those charts. They're called facts. Those are the things that were "cherry picked." You have a chart showing job growth and unemployment went up 13.14% (For the math challenged, 9.1 - 7.3 = 1.8 7.3/1.8 = 13.14%) You have to be very careful to reject a lot of facts and only use the ones that result in your agenda, AKA "cherry picking", to produce that chart. I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers, but the chart in question clearly shows that job growth has been pretty steadily climbing since Jan. 09. No "unemployment" numbers chart was included, so you're getting that from somewhere else. That's fine, but there is likely only a correlation between job growth and unemployment not a causation effect. As I said, these three charts are hard to dispute. So far, you haven't been very successful in doing so. Job growth is not keeping up with population growth but if you actually did "tons of research"(or any research at all) you would know that. Instead you just post things you get in an Email and call them facts. http://metricmash.com/unemployment.a...de=LNS13327709 And, you blame who for this? Assuming this is true, this still has nothing to do with the fact that the stim created jobs, the trend is UP not DOWN (as under Bush) and that Obama is "to blame" for that. http://www.truth-out.org/three-chart...law/1314626142 Feel free to continue to be a jerk in your language to me. I'm sure it makes you feel good. Those charts are pure fleabagger bull****. No talk of ponzi fraudsters Bernanke or the democrat 2006 congress **** ups. Fact s USA is broke and can no longer pay its bills with real money. Bernanke has to electronically counterfeit it in the ruse of US treasury solvency. Just a huge fraud. Well, you know bull****. You are bull****. You've always been bull**** and you always will be bull****. You're leaking bull**** from your ears. |
#24
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three charts for Republicans who are not crazy
On 9/5/2011 3:25 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 09:56:01 -0400, BeachBum"not a wrote: On 9/5/2011 1:23 AM, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 21:18:25 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 23:42:21 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:33:39 -0700, wrote: The fact is, unemployment was 7.3% on 1/1/09 and it is 9.1% now. BLS says there was no net job creation last month. I am not sure what data they cherry picked to create those charts. They're called facts. Those are the things that were "cherry picked." You have a chart showing job growth and unemployment went up 13.14% (For the math challenged, 9.1 - 7.3 = 1.8 7.3/1.8 = 13.14%) You have to be very careful to reject a lot of facts and only use the ones that result in your agenda, AKA "cherry picking", to produce that chart. I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers, but the chart in question clearly shows that job growth has been pretty steadily climbing since Jan. 09. No "unemployment" numbers chart was included, so you're getting that from somewhere else. That's fine, but there is likely only a correlation between job growth and unemployment not a causation effect. As I said, these three charts are hard to dispute. So far, you haven't been very successful in doing so. Job growth is not keeping up with population growth but if you actually did "tons of research"(or any research at all) you would know that. Instead you just post things you get in an Email and call them facts. http://metricmash.com/unemployment.a...de=LNS13327709 If you look at Labor force participation rate you will see some surprising statistics. Yup that is scary. Look at the crash since the end of the housing bubble. There isn't even a significant bump since the end of 2008. All the housing boom did was flatten the curve a little. It has really been falling since the end of the tech bubble. http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000 Look at this. It shows that Latinos employment ratio is the highest. Even with the lack of new housing starts. http://metricmash.com/unemployment.a...de=LNS13327709 |
#25
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three charts for Republicans who are not crazy
On 05/09/2011 1:25 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 09:56:01 -0400, BeachBum"not a wrote: On 9/5/2011 1:23 AM, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 21:18:25 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 23:42:21 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:33:39 -0700, wrote: The fact is, unemployment was 7.3% on 1/1/09 and it is 9.1% now. BLS says there was no net job creation last month. I am not sure what data they cherry picked to create those charts. They're called facts. Those are the things that were "cherry picked." You have a chart showing job growth and unemployment went up 13.14% (For the math challenged, 9.1 - 7.3 = 1.8 7.3/1.8 = 13.14%) You have to be very careful to reject a lot of facts and only use the ones that result in your agenda, AKA "cherry picking", to produce that chart. I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers, but the chart in question clearly shows that job growth has been pretty steadily climbing since Jan. 09. No "unemployment" numbers chart was included, so you're getting that from somewhere else. That's fine, but there is likely only a correlation between job growth and unemployment not a causation effect. As I said, these three charts are hard to dispute. So far, you haven't been very successful in doing so. Job growth is not keeping up with population growth but if you actually did "tons of research"(or any research at all) you would know that. Instead you just post things you get in an Email and call them facts. http://metricmash.com/unemployment.a...de=LNS13327709 If you look at Labor force participation rate you will see some surprising statistics. Yup that is scary. Look at the crash since the end of the housing bubble. There isn't even a significant bump since the end of 2008. All the housing boom did was flatten the curve a little. It has really been falling since the end of the tech bubble. http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000 Liable to get worse too. Bernanke will print more money, creating more hidden inflation, people will acquire less stuff, so fewer jobs are needed. Pretty good chance like Japan's lost decades this will continue for the foreseeable future. -- If it is all Bush's fault, then how come Obama is doing much more of the same and expecting different results? |
#26
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three charts for Republicans who are not crazy
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:25:32 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 09:56:01 -0400, BeachBum "not a wrote: On 9/5/2011 1:23 AM, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 21:18:25 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 23:42:21 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:33:39 -0700, wrote: The fact is, unemployment was 7.3% on 1/1/09 and it is 9.1% now. BLS says there was no net job creation last month. I am not sure what data they cherry picked to create those charts. They're called facts. Those are the things that were "cherry picked." You have a chart showing job growth and unemployment went up 13.14% (For the math challenged, 9.1 - 7.3 = 1.8 7.3/1.8 = 13.14%) You have to be very careful to reject a lot of facts and only use the ones that result in your agenda, AKA "cherry picking", to produce that chart. I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers, but the chart in question clearly shows that job growth has been pretty steadily climbing since Jan. 09. No "unemployment" numbers chart was included, so you're getting that from somewhere else. That's fine, but there is likely only a correlation between job growth and unemployment not a causation effect. As I said, these three charts are hard to dispute. So far, you haven't been very successful in doing so. Job growth is not keeping up with population growth but if you actually did "tons of research"(or any research at all) you would know that. Instead you just post things you get in an Email and call them facts. http://metricmash.com/unemployment.a...de=LNS13327709 If you look at Labor force participation rate you will see some surprising statistics. Yup that is scary. Look at the crash since the end of the housing bubble. There isn't even a significant bump since the end of 2008. All the housing boom did was flatten the curve a little. It has really been falling since the end of the tech bubble. http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000 Yup, well everything you see is scary, apparently. You might want to stop being so paranoid. |
#27
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three charts for Republicans who are not crazy
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 16:59:39 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:54:42 -0400, BeachBum "not a wrote: On 9/5/2011 3:25 PM, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 09:56:01 -0400, BeachBum"not a wrote: On 9/5/2011 1:23 AM, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 21:18:25 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 23:42:21 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:33:39 -0700, wrote: The fact is, unemployment was 7.3% on 1/1/09 and it is 9.1% now. BLS says there was no net job creation last month. I am not sure what data they cherry picked to create those charts. They're called facts. Those are the things that were "cherry picked." You have a chart showing job growth and unemployment went up 13.14% (For the math challenged, 9.1 - 7.3 = 1.8 7.3/1.8 = 13.14%) You have to be very careful to reject a lot of facts and only use the ones that result in your agenda, AKA "cherry picking", to produce that chart. I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers, but the chart in question clearly shows that job growth has been pretty steadily climbing since Jan. 09. No "unemployment" numbers chart was included, so you're getting that from somewhere else. That's fine, but there is likely only a correlation between job growth and unemployment not a causation effect. As I said, these three charts are hard to dispute. So far, you haven't been very successful in doing so. Job growth is not keeping up with population growth but if you actually did "tons of research"(or any research at all) you would know that. Instead you just post things you get in an Email and call them facts. http://metricmash.com/unemployment.a...de=LNS13327709 If you look at Labor force participation rate you will see some surprising statistics. Yup that is scary. Look at the crash since the end of the housing bubble. There isn't even a significant bump since the end of 2008. All the housing boom did was flatten the curve a little. It has really been falling since the end of the tech bubble. http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000 Look at this. It shows that Latinos employment ratio is the highest. Even with the lack of new housing starts. http://metricmash.com/unemployment.a...de=LNS13327709 That is because they will go for those "Green Jobs". The houses may get foreclosed on but that grass keeps on growing and the county makes the bank mow it. The Mexicans are in competition with a lot of anglos tho, including more than a few college grads. Sure. Blame Mexicans. I'm sure that fits in your xenophobia quite nicely. |
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three charts for Republicans who are not crazy
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:32:49 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 05/09/2011 1:25 PM, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 09:56:01 -0400, BeachBum"not a wrote: On 9/5/2011 1:23 AM, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 21:18:25 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 23:42:21 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:33:39 -0700, wrote: The fact is, unemployment was 7.3% on 1/1/09 and it is 9.1% now. BLS says there was no net job creation last month. I am not sure what data they cherry picked to create those charts. They're called facts. Those are the things that were "cherry picked." You have a chart showing job growth and unemployment went up 13.14% (For the math challenged, 9.1 - 7.3 = 1.8 7.3/1.8 = 13.14%) You have to be very careful to reject a lot of facts and only use the ones that result in your agenda, AKA "cherry picking", to produce that chart. I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers, but the chart in question clearly shows that job growth has been pretty steadily climbing since Jan. 09. No "unemployment" numbers chart was included, so you're getting that from somewhere else. That's fine, but there is likely only a correlation between job growth and unemployment not a causation effect. As I said, these three charts are hard to dispute. So far, you haven't been very successful in doing so. Job growth is not keeping up with population growth but if you actually did "tons of research"(or any research at all) you would know that. Instead you just post things you get in an Email and call them facts. http://metricmash.com/unemployment.a...de=LNS13327709 If you look at Labor force participation rate you will see some surprising statistics. Yup that is scary. Look at the crash since the end of the housing bubble. There isn't even a significant bump since the end of 2008. All the housing boom did was flatten the curve a little. It has really been falling since the end of the tech bubble. http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000 Liable to get worse too. Bernanke will print more money, creating more hidden inflation, people will acquire less stuff, so fewer jobs are needed. Pretty good chance like Japan's lost decades this will continue for the foreseeable future. You are not liable to get dumber. That's really not possible. |
#29
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three charts for Republicans who are not crazy
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:52:38 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:01:14 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 01:23:37 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 21:18:25 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 23:42:21 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:33:39 -0700, wrote: The fact is, unemployment was 7.3% on 1/1/09 and it is 9.1% now. BLS says there was no net job creation last month. I am not sure what data they cherry picked to create those charts. They're called facts. Those are the things that were "cherry picked." You have a chart showing job growth and unemployment went up 13.14% (For the math challenged, 9.1 - 7.3 = 1.8 7.3/1.8 = 13.14%) You have to be very careful to reject a lot of facts and only use the ones that result in your agenda, AKA "cherry picking", to produce that chart. I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers, but the chart in question clearly shows that job growth has been pretty steadily climbing since Jan. 09. No "unemployment" numbers chart was included, so you're getting that from somewhere else. That's fine, but there is likely only a correlation between job growth and unemployment not a causation effect. As I said, these three charts are hard to dispute. So far, you haven't been very successful in doing so. Job growth is not keeping up with population growth but if you actually did "tons of research"(or any research at all) you would know that. Instead you just post things you get in an Email and call them facts. http://metricmash.com/unemployment.a...de=LNS13327709 And, you blame who for this? Assuming this is true, this still has nothing to do with the fact that the stim created jobs, the trend is UP not DOWN (as under Bush) and that Obama is "to blame" for that. http://www.truth-out.org/three-chart...law/1314626142 Yeah right. http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000 Feel free to continue to be a jerk in your language to me. I'm sure it makes you feel good. It makes me sad that a person who purports to have all the education you say you have, lacks the intellectual curiosity to actually do a little research before you forward junk mail you get. How is that Nigerian Prince thing working out? It makes me sad that a person who purports to be intellectually honest would stoop to hiding and using false equivalent arguments as though they are valid... Why don't you tell me about your "research" about how the stim actually created jobs and how Bush's tax cuts did nothing for the economy. Oh wait, you're not willing or, it seems, able. Did you get burned by a scam? If so, maybe you should take one of those handyman jobs for $15/hour. |
#30
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three charts for Republicans who are not crazy
On 9/5/2011 5:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 16:59:39 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:54:42 -0400, BeachBum"not a wrote: On 9/5/2011 3:25 PM, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 09:56:01 -0400, BeachBum"not a wrote: On 9/5/2011 1:23 AM, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 21:18:25 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 23:42:21 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:33:39 -0700, wrote: The fact is, unemployment was 7.3% on 1/1/09 and it is 9.1% now. BLS says there was no net job creation last month. I am not sure what data they cherry picked to create those charts. They're called facts. Those are the things that were "cherry picked." You have a chart showing job growth and unemployment went up 13.14% (For the math challenged, 9.1 - 7.3 = 1.8 7.3/1.8 = 13.14%) You have to be very careful to reject a lot of facts and only use the ones that result in your agenda, AKA "cherry picking", to produce that chart. I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers, but the chart in question clearly shows that job growth has been pretty steadily climbing since Jan. 09. No "unemployment" numbers chart was included, so you're getting that from somewhere else. That's fine, but there is likely only a correlation between job growth and unemployment not a causation effect. As I said, these three charts are hard to dispute. So far, you haven't been very successful in doing so. Job growth is not keeping up with population growth but if you actually did "tons of research"(or any research at all) you would know that. Instead you just post things you get in an Email and call them facts. http://metricmash.com/unemployment.a...de=LNS13327709 If you look at Labor force participation rate you will see some surprising statistics. Yup that is scary. Look at the crash since the end of the housing bubble. There isn't even a significant bump since the end of 2008. All the housing boom did was flatten the curve a little. It has really been falling since the end of the tech bubble. http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000 Look at this. It shows that Latinos employment ratio is the highest. Even with the lack of new housing starts. http://metricmash.com/unemployment.a...de=LNS13327709 That is because they will go for those "Green Jobs". The houses may get foreclosed on but that grass keeps on growing and the county makes the bank mow it. The Mexicans are in competition with a lot of anglos tho, including more than a few college grads. Sure. Blame Mexicans. I'm sure that fits in your xenophobia quite nicely. Well they did put you out of work at the car wash. |
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