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On 9/2/2011 11:17 AM, Your Name Here wrote:
On 9/2/11 10:52 AM, JustWait wrote: On 9/2/2011 10:48 AM, Kulin Remailer wrote: On 9/2/2011 9:08 AM, JustWait wrote: NYC Policemen and Firefighters, and Clergy are not invited to the 10th anniversary of 9/11 at Ground Zero....."Because there's not room"... They weren't invited on that day in 2001 either. THEY JUST SHOWED UP AND DID THEIR JOB ! Hey Bloomberg, you are a real piece of crap.... go to hell! The Muslim community center is neither a mosque nor at ground zero. There, I fixed it, and as to the "Muslim Community Center", that remains to be seen... While it does seem that it will be a Muslim Community Center, what does it matter if it is a mosque. This group is considered a moderate Muslim community. As a society We need to encourage improved relationships with Moderate Muslims. Their are approximately 7 billion Muslim in the world. The vast majority, especially in the US, want nothing to do with violence or terrorism. They want to take care of their family, enjoy life, practice their religion and live in peace. The more we encourage improved relationship with Muslims, Muslim Communities and Muslim Countries the safer and more secure the US will be. The anti Muslim sentiment around the world reminds me of the anti Catholic and anti Jew sentiment that was and in certain parts of the world still very common. If the Jews held all Christian responsible for the actions of some Christians (at times the majority of Christians) we would have to worry about both Jewish and Muslim terrorist. As Rodney King said "Can't we all just get along". You are completely missing the point, being paranoid. My problem is with bloomberg, bloomberg supports some religious activity, but not others. He is allowing Politicians to the ceremony, not Firefighters, Clergy and Police. It is my opinion he makes these judgements and decisions with nothing but politics in mind. It seems to be a pattern with bloomberg, and has nothing to do in my mind with what you are assuming a problem you think I have with "the Muslim community".. I guarantee my personal feelings on the Community Center are not what you think... |
#2
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On 9/2/11 11:27 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/2/2011 11:17 AM, Your Name Here wrote: On 9/2/11 10:52 AM, JustWait wrote: On 9/2/2011 10:48 AM, Kulin Remailer wrote: On 9/2/2011 9:08 AM, JustWait wrote: NYC Policemen and Firefighters, and Clergy are not invited to the 10th anniversary of 9/11 at Ground Zero....."Because there's not room"... They weren't invited on that day in 2001 either. THEY JUST SHOWED UP AND DID THEIR JOB ! Hey Bloomberg, you are a real piece of crap.... go to hell! The Muslim community center is neither a mosque nor at ground zero. There, I fixed it, and as to the "Muslim Community Center", that remains to be seen... While it does seem that it will be a Muslim Community Center, what does it matter if it is a mosque. This group is considered a moderate Muslim community. As a society We need to encourage improved relationships with Moderate Muslims. Their are approximately 7 billion Muslim in the world. The vast majority, especially in the US, want nothing to do with violence or terrorism. They want to take care of their family, enjoy life, practice their religion and live in peace. The more we encourage improved relationship with Muslims, Muslim Communities and Muslim Countries the safer and more secure the US will be. The anti Muslim sentiment around the world reminds me of the anti Catholic and anti Jew sentiment that was and in certain parts of the world still very common. If the Jews held all Christian responsible for the actions of some Christians (at times the majority of Christians) we would have to worry about both Jewish and Muslim terrorist. As Rodney King said "Can't we all just get along". You are completely missing the point, being paranoid. My problem is with bloomberg, bloomberg supports some religious activity, but not others. He is allowing Politicians to the ceremony, not Firefighters, Clergy and Police. It is my opinion he makes these judgements and decisions with nothing but politics in mind. It seems to be a pattern with bloomberg, and has nothing to do in my mind with what you are assuming a problem you think I have with "the Muslim community".. I guarantee my personal feelings on the Community Center are not what you think... I am glad you are not biased against Muslims. When I read that you were making some distinction between Mosque and Community Center it seemed that you were. It seems that Bloomberg (a Jew) is not allowing Christians, Muslims, Hindu or Druids to say prayers at the Memorial, Service but he will allow any and all of them to build places of worship in the same area of lower Manhattan. So it does seem that he is treating everyone equally. Now even if Bloomberg didn't want the community center close to ground zero, our Constitution would not allow him to say a specific religious group can not open a religious center within X number of yards/miles of ground zero. |
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On Sep 2, 11:42*am, iBoatMore wrote:
In article , says... On 9/2/2011 11:17 AM, Your Name Here wrote: On 9/2/11 10:52 AM, JustWait wrote: On 9/2/2011 10:48 AM, Kulin Remailer wrote: On 9/2/2011 9:08 AM, JustWait wrote: NYC Policemen and Firefighters, and Clergy are not invited to the 10th anniversary of 9/11 at Ground Zero....."Because there's not room"... They weren't invited on that day in 2001 either. THEY JUST SHOWED UP AND DID THEIR JOB ! Hey Bloomberg, you are a real piece of crap.... go to hell! The Muslim community center is neither a mosque nor at ground zero. There, I fixed it, and as to the "Muslim Community Center", that remains to be seen... While it does seem that it will be a Muslim Community Center, what does it matter if it is a mosque. This group is considered a moderate Muslim community. As a society We need to encourage improved relationships with Moderate Muslims. Their are approximately 7 billion Muslim in the world. The vast majority, especially in the US, want nothing to do with violence or terrorism. They want to take care of their family, enjoy life, practice their religion and live in peace. The more we encourage improved relationship with Muslims, Muslim Communities and Muslim Countries the safer and more secure the US will be. The anti Muslim sentiment around the world reminds me of the anti Catholic and anti Jew sentiment that was and in certain parts of the world still very common. If the Jews held all Christian responsible for the actions of some Christians (at times the majority of Christians) we would have to worry about both Jewish and Muslim terrorist. As Rodney King said "Can't we all just get along". You are completely missing the point, being paranoid. My problem is with bloomberg, bloomberg supports some religious activity, but not others. He is allowing Politicians to the ceremony, not Firefighters, Clergy and Police. It is my opinion he makes these judgements and decisions with nothing but politics in mind. It seems to be a pattern with bloomberg, and has nothing to do in my mind with what you are assuming a problem you think I have with "the Muslim community".. I guarantee my personal feelings on the Community Center are not what you think... Where you are wrong in your thinking is you are acting like Bloomberg IS allowing Muslims to speak at the ceremony, which is false. IF it were a "pattern" he'd allow some religions (Muslims) and not others (Christians}. The Muslim Community Center has absolutely NOTHING to do with the ceremony for 9/11. My problem is with Bloomberg not allowing three of the most important organizations (Firefighters, Clergy, and Police) to participate in the services, he is turning it into a political statement and stealing it from New Yorkers. He can't put his own ideology aside, that is my issue. Please, I don't think I could make it any clearer... so just call me a racist and get it over with snerk |
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On 9/2/11 11:27 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/2/2011 11:17 AM, Your Name Here wrote: On 9/2/11 10:52 AM, JustWait wrote: On 9/2/2011 10:48 AM, Kulin Remailer wrote: On 9/2/2011 9:08 AM, JustWait wrote: NYC Policemen and Firefighters, and Clergy are not invited to the 10th anniversary of 9/11 at Ground Zero....."Because there's not room"... They weren't invited on that day in 2001 either. THEY JUST SHOWED UP AND DID THEIR JOB ! Hey Bloomberg, you are a real piece of crap.... go to hell! The Muslim community center is neither a mosque nor at ground zero. There, I fixed it, and as to the "Muslim Community Center", that remains to be seen... While it does seem that it will be a Muslim Community Center, what does it matter if it is a mosque. This group is considered a moderate Muslim community. As a society We need to encourage improved relationships with Moderate Muslims. Their are approximately 7 billion Muslim in the world. The vast majority, especially in the US, want nothing to do with violence or terrorism. They want to take care of their family, enjoy life, practice their religion and live in peace. The more we encourage improved relationship with Muslims, Muslim Communities and Muslim Countries the safer and more secure the US will be. The anti Muslim sentiment around the world reminds me of the anti Catholic and anti Jew sentiment that was and in certain parts of the world still very common. If the Jews held all Christian responsible for the actions of some Christians (at times the majority of Christians) we would have to worry about both Jewish and Muslim terrorist. As Rodney King said "Can't we all just get along". You are completely missing the point, being paranoid. My problem is with bloomberg, bloomberg supports some religious activity, but not others. He is allowing Politicians to the ceremony, not Firefighters, Clergy and Police. It is my opinion he makes these judgements and decisions with nothing but politics in mind. It seems to be a pattern with bloomberg, and has nothing to do in my mind with what you are assuming a problem you think I have with "the Muslim community".. I guarantee my personal feelings on the Community Center are not what you think... There were many Muslims who were killed in the WTC. Can you imagine the uproar if a Muslim was allowed to lead a prayer? It seems that Bloomberg's decision to focus on the families of those killed was a very prudent and reasonable decision. from the AP The mayor's office says the annual event focuses on relatives of Sept. 11 victims and has never included clergy invocations. Bloomberg has said it would be impossible to include everyone who would like to participate. Evelyn Erskine, a Bloomberg spokeswoman, said the program was designed in coordination with 9/11 families and included readings that were "spiritual and personal in nature." Six moments of silence were planned for personal reflection and prayer. Police and fire chaplains who work with the 9/11 families will attend. "Rather than have disagreements over which religious leaders participate, we would like to keep the focus of our commemoration ceremony on the family members of those who died," Erskine said. Several New York religious leaders say they understand the mayor's position. They point to the multitude of religious events surrounding the anniversary as evidence faith isn't being overlooked. "I just think a decision was made to give priority to the families. If this means more families will be attending, I think all of us can accept that," said Rabbi Joseph Potasnik, executive vice president of the New York Board of Rabbis. |
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On Sep 2, 10:48*am, Kulin Remailer wrote:
On 9/2/2011 9:08 AM, JustWait wrote: NYC Policemen and Firefighters are not invited to the 10th anniversary of 9/11 at Ground Zero.....Because there's not room... They weren't invited on that day in 2001 either. THEY JUST SHOWED UP AND DID THEIR JOB ! Mayor Bloomberg wants to allow a Mosque at Ground Zero, but won't let Clergy or Prayer at the tenth anniversary of 9/11. Hey Bloomberg, you are a real piece of crap.... go to hell! The Muslim community center is neither a mosque nor at ground zero. Go **** yourself, asswipe. |
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On 9/2/2011 6:03 PM, *e#c wrote:
On Sep 2, 10:48 am, Kulin wrote: On 9/2/2011 9:08 AM, JustWait wrote: NYC Policemen and Firefighters are not invited to the 10th anniversary of 9/11 at Ground Zero.....Because there's not room... They weren't invited on that day in 2001 either. THEY JUST SHOWED UP AND DID THEIR JOB ! Mayor Bloomberg wants to allow a Mosque at Ground Zero, but won't let Clergy or Prayer at the tenth anniversary of 9/11. Hey Bloomberg, you are a real piece of crap.... go to hell! The Muslim community center is neither a mosque nor at ground zero. Go **** yourself, asswipe. Just can't keep away from foul language, can you? |
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On 9/2/2011 11:01 PM, Disgruntled wrote:
On 9/2/2011 6:03 PM, *e#c wrote: On Sep 2, 10:48 am, Kulin wrote: On 9/2/2011 9:08 AM, JustWait wrote: NYC Policemen and Firefighters are not invited to the 10th anniversary of 9/11 at Ground Zero.....Because there's not room... They weren't invited on that day in 2001 either. THEY JUST SHOWED UP AND DID THEIR JOB ! Mayor Bloomberg wants to allow a Mosque at Ground Zero, but won't let Clergy or Prayer at the tenth anniversary of 9/11. Hey Bloomberg, you are a real piece of crap.... go to hell! The Muslim community center is neither a mosque nor at ground zero. Go **** yourself, asswipe. Just can't keep away from foul language, can you? It's an inherited speech impediment. He can't help it. |
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On 9/3/11 8:31 AM, BeachBum wrote:
On 9/2/2011 11:01 PM, Disgruntled wrote: On 9/2/2011 6:03 PM, *e#c wrote: On Sep 2, 10:48 am, Kulin wrote: On 9/2/2011 9:08 AM, JustWait wrote: NYC Policemen and Firefighters are not invited to the 10th anniversary of 9/11 at Ground Zero.....Because there's not room... They weren't invited on that day in 2001 either. THEY JUST SHOWED UP AND DID THEIR JOB ! Mayor Bloomberg wants to allow a Mosque at Ground Zero, but won't let Clergy or Prayer at the tenth anniversary of 9/11. Hey Bloomberg, you are a real piece of crap.... go to hell! The Muslim community center is neither a mosque nor at ground zero. Go **** yourself, asswipe. Just can't keep away from foul language, can you? It's an inherited speech impediment. He can't help it. I can't figure out why some people freak out when someone disagrees with them. "Justa" and etec seem to prefer to use profanity over discourse. Isn't it possible to disagree without being disagreeable. |
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On 9/3/2011 9:06 AM, Your Name Here wrote:
On 9/3/11 8:31 AM, BeachBum wrote: On 9/2/2011 11:01 PM, Disgruntled wrote: On 9/2/2011 6:03 PM, *e#c wrote: On Sep 2, 10:48 am, Kulin wrote: On 9/2/2011 9:08 AM, JustWait wrote: NYC Policemen and Firefighters are not invited to the 10th anniversary of 9/11 at Ground Zero.....Because there's not room... They weren't invited on that day in 2001 either. THEY JUST SHOWED UP AND DID THEIR JOB ! Mayor Bloomberg wants to allow a Mosque at Ground Zero, but won't let Clergy or Prayer at the tenth anniversary of 9/11. Hey Bloomberg, you are a real piece of crap.... go to hell! The Muslim community center is neither a mosque nor at ground zero. Go **** yourself, asswipe. Just can't keep away from foul language, can you? It's an inherited speech impediment. He can't help it. I can't figure out why some people freak out when someone disagrees with them. "Justa" and etec seem to prefer to use profanity over discourse. Isn't it possible to disagree without being disagreeable. Sorry Harry.. But I don't make a habit of using profanity here. You give yourself away when you "make stuff up as you go along"... |
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