Barron's reportson Solyndra, the solar company backed by the gov with
over half a billion dollars in stimulus money:
"One of Solyndra's biggest stakeholders is Argonaut Ventures I. Its
majority owner is Oklahoma oil billionaire George Kaiser, who was a
"bundler"of campaign funds for the Obama-Biden campaign. This means he
collected contributions and sent them en masse to the candidates.
Kaiser e-mailed us an emphatic "NO" when we asked if he played any
role in the pursuit of the loan guarantees.

In November, Chu appointed venture capitalist Jonathan Silver to
oversee the DOE's loan guarantee program and its Advanced Technology
Vehicles Manufacturing Loan Program. Silver had been a managing
partner at Core Capital Partners in Washington. Coincidentally, one of
his colleagues there was Tom Wheeler, another Obama-Biden fund
bundler. Silver is supposed to help Chu accelerate loan reviews.
According to a November press release, "Silver will be responsible for
staffing the programs, and leading origination, analysis, and
negotiation, as well as managing the full range of the Department's
alternative energy investments." The DOE said Silver was unavailable
for comment."
Basically, almost all of the stimulus money (about 787 billion
dollars) went directly into the pockets of Obama cronies but these
fools are not even able to do crony crapitalism well as Solyndra has
gone bankrupt. That $500 million woulda got a lot of real jobs if the
money was in the hands of the people who paid the taxes.

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...

Barron's reportson Solyndra, the solar company backed by the gov with
over half a billion dollars in stimulus money:
"One of Solyndra's biggest stakeholders is Argonaut Ventures I. Its
majority owner is Oklahoma oil billionaire George Kaiser, who was a
"bundler"of campaign funds for the Obama-Biden campaign. This means he
collected contributions and sent them en masse to the candidates.
Kaiser e-mailed us an emphatic "NO" when we asked if he played any
role in the pursuit of the loan guarantees.

In November, Chu appointed venture capitalist Jonathan Silver to
oversee the DOE's loan guarantee program and its Advanced Technology
Vehicles Manufacturing Loan Program. Silver had been a managing
partner at Core Capital Partners in Washington. Coincidentally, one of
his colleagues there was Tom Wheeler, another Obama-Biden fund
bundler. Silver is supposed to help Chu accelerate loan reviews.
According to a November press release, "Silver will be responsible for
staffing the programs, and leading origination, analysis, and
negotiation, as well as managing the full range of the Department's
alternative energy investments." The DOE said Silver was unavailable
for comment."
Basically, almost all of the stimulus money (about 787 billion
dollars) went directly into the pockets of Obama cronies but these
fools are not even able to do crony crapitalism well as Solyndra has
gone bankrupt. That $500 million woulda got a lot of real jobs if the
money was in the hands of the people who paid the taxes.


_______________________________________________
Yesterday the guy with the next building said, they should have used the
money to improve their business, instead of building a new, extravagant
building. Problem over the years in the Silicon Valley of show over
meaning.

On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 22:17:56 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...

Barron's reportson Solyndra, the solar company backed by the gov with
over half a billion dollars in stimulus money:
"One of Solyndra's biggest stakeholders is Argonaut Ventures I. Its
majority owner is Oklahoma oil billionaire George Kaiser, who was a
"bundler"of campaign funds for the Obama-Biden campaign. This means he
collected contributions and sent them en masse to the candidates.
Kaiser e-mailed us an emphatic "NO" when we asked if he played any
role in the pursuit of the loan guarantees.

In November, Chu appointed venture capitalist Jonathan Silver to
oversee the DOE's loan guarantee program and its Advanced Technology
Vehicles Manufacturing Loan Program. Silver had been a managing
partner at Core Capital Partners in Washington. Coincidentally, one of
his colleagues there was Tom Wheeler, another Obama-Biden fund
bundler. Silver is supposed to help Chu accelerate loan reviews.
According to a November press release, "Silver will be responsible for
staffing the programs, and leading origination, analysis, and
negotiation, as well as managing the full range of the Department's
alternative energy investments." The DOE said Silver was unavailable
for comment."
Basically, almost all of the stimulus money (about 787 billion
dollars) went directly into the pockets of Obama cronies but these
fools are not even able to do crony crapitalism well as Solyndra has
gone bankrupt. That $500 million woulda got a lot of real jobs if the
money was in the hands of the people who paid the taxes.


_______________________________________________
Yesterday the guy with the next building said, they should have used the
money to improve their business, instead of building a new, extravagant
building. Problem over the years in the Silicon Valley of show over
meaning.

Therefore, it's Obama's fault. Good grief!

On Sep 2, 12:42*am, wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 22:17:56 -0700, "Califbill"









wrote:
"Frogwatch" *wrote in message
....

Barron's reportson Solyndra, the solar company backed by the gov with
over half a billion dollars in stimulus money:
"One of Solyndra's biggest stakeholders is Argonaut Ventures I. Its
majority owner is Oklahoma oil billionaire George Kaiser, who was a
"bundler"of campaign funds for the Obama-Biden campaign. This means he
collected contributions and sent them en masse to the candidates.
Kaiser e-mailed us an emphatic "NO" when we asked if he played any
role in the pursuit of the loan guarantees.

In November, Chu appointed venture capitalist Jonathan Silver to
oversee the DOE's loan guarantee program and its Advanced Technology
Vehicles Manufacturing Loan Program. Silver had been a managing
partner at Core Capital Partners in Washington. Coincidentally, one of
his colleagues there was Tom Wheeler, another Obama-Biden fund
bundler. Silver is supposed to help Chu accelerate loan reviews.
According to a November press release, "Silver will be responsible for
staffing the programs, and leading origination, analysis, and
negotiation, as well as managing the full range of the Department's
alternative energy investments." The DOE said Silver was unavailable
for comment."
Basically, almost all of the stimulus money (about 787 billion
dollars) went directly into the pockets of Obama cronies but these
fools are not even able to do crony crapitalism well as Solyndra has
gone bankrupt. *That $500 million woulda got a lot of real jobs if the
money was in the hands of the people who paid the taxes.

_______________________________________________
Yesterday the guy with the next building said, they should have used the
money to improve their business, instead of building a new, extravagant
building. *Problem over the years in the Silicon Valley of show over
meaning.

Therefore, it's Obama's fault. Good grief!

Finally you catch on, D'Plume!

"TopBassDog" wrote in message
...

On Sep 2, 12:42 am, wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 22:17:56 -0700, "Califbill"









wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...

Barron's reportson Solyndra, the solar company backed by the gov with
over half a billion dollars in stimulus money:
"One of Solyndra's biggest stakeholders is Argonaut Ventures I. Its
majority owner is Oklahoma oil billionaire George Kaiser, who was a
"bundler"of campaign funds for the Obama-Biden campaign. This means he
collected contributions and sent them en masse to the candidates.
Kaiser e-mailed us an emphatic "NO" when we asked if he played any
role in the pursuit of the loan guarantees.

In November, Chu appointed venture capitalist Jonathan Silver to
oversee the DOE's loan guarantee program and its Advanced Technology
Vehicles Manufacturing Loan Program. Silver had been a managing
partner at Core Capital Partners in Washington. Coincidentally, one of
his colleagues there was Tom Wheeler, another Obama-Biden fund
bundler. Silver is supposed to help Chu accelerate loan reviews.
According to a November press release, "Silver will be responsible for
staffing the programs, and leading origination, analysis, and
negotiation, as well as managing the full range of the Department's
alternative energy investments." The DOE said Silver was unavailable
for comment."
Basically, almost all of the stimulus money (about 787 billion
dollars) went directly into the pockets of Obama cronies but these
fools are not even able to do crony crapitalism well as Solyndra has
gone bankrupt. That $500 million woulda got a lot of real jobs if the
money was in the hands of the people who paid the taxes.

_______________________________________________
Yesterday the guy with the next building said, they should have used the
money to improve their business, instead of building a new, extravagant
building. Problem over the years in the Silicon Valley of show over
meaning.

Therefore, it's Obama's fault. Good grief!

Finally you catch on, D'Plume!


Reply:
yes, it is the governments fault. Why give a a half a billion bucks without
some controls. Even banks giving construction loans do not issue a check
for the amount to the builder. They put the money in an escrow account and
legitimate bills are paid from it. The oversee the loan to prevent just
this point. Use the money for what is was loaned for, not for show.

On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:04:31 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"TopBassDog" wrote in message
...

On Sep 2, 12:42 am, wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 22:17:56 -0700, "Califbill"









wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...

Barron's reportson Solyndra, the solar company backed by the gov with
over half a billion dollars in stimulus money:
"One of Solyndra's biggest stakeholders is Argonaut Ventures I. Its
majority owner is Oklahoma oil billionaire George Kaiser, who was a
"bundler"of campaign funds for the Obama-Biden campaign. This means he
collected contributions and sent them en masse to the candidates.
Kaiser e-mailed us an emphatic "NO" when we asked if he played any
role in the pursuit of the loan guarantees.

In November, Chu appointed venture capitalist Jonathan Silver to
oversee the DOE's loan guarantee program and its Advanced Technology
Vehicles Manufacturing Loan Program. Silver had been a managing
partner at Core Capital Partners in Washington. Coincidentally, one of
his colleagues there was Tom Wheeler, another Obama-Biden fund
bundler. Silver is supposed to help Chu accelerate loan reviews.
According to a November press release, "Silver will be responsible for
staffing the programs, and leading origination, analysis, and
negotiation, as well as managing the full range of the Department's
alternative energy investments." The DOE said Silver was unavailable
for comment."
Basically, almost all of the stimulus money (about 787 billion
dollars) went directly into the pockets of Obama cronies but these
fools are not even able to do crony crapitalism well as Solyndra has
gone bankrupt. That $500 million woulda got a lot of real jobs if the
money was in the hands of the people who paid the taxes.

_______________________________________________
Yesterday the guy with the next building said, they should have used the
money to improve their business, instead of building a new, extravagant
building. Problem over the years in the Silicon Valley of show over
meaning.

Therefore, it's Obama's fault. Good grief!

Finally you catch on, D'Plume!


Reply:
yes, it is the governments fault. Why give a a half a billion bucks without
some controls. Even banks giving construction loans do not issue a check
for the amount to the builder. They put the money in an escrow account and
legitimate bills are paid from it. The oversee the loan to prevent just
this point. Use the money for what is was loaned for, not for show.

So, then when the Bush administration handed Cheney's buddies
something like $60B that killed people, you voiced your outrage?

You and the stalker are quite a pair... of idiots.

On 02/09/2011 11:04 AM, Califbill wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message
...

On Sep 2, 12:42 am, wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 22:17:56 -0700, "Califbill"









wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...


Barron's reportson Solyndra, the solar company backed by the gov with
over half a billion dollars in stimulus money:
"One of Solyndra's biggest stakeholders is Argonaut Ventures I. Its
majority owner is Oklahoma oil billionaire George Kaiser, who was a
"bundler"of campaign funds for the Obama-Biden campaign. This means he
collected contributions and sent them en masse to the candidates.
Kaiser e-mailed us an emphatic "NO" when we asked if he played any
role in the pursuit of the loan guarantees.

In November, Chu appointed venture capitalist Jonathan Silver to
oversee the DOE's loan guarantee program and its Advanced Technology
Vehicles Manufacturing Loan Program. Silver had been a managing
partner at Core Capital Partners in Washington. Coincidentally, one of
his colleagues there was Tom Wheeler, another Obama-Biden fund
bundler. Silver is supposed to help Chu accelerate loan reviews.
According to a November press release, "Silver will be responsible for
staffing the programs, and leading origination, analysis, and
negotiation, as well as managing the full range of the Department's
alternative energy investments." The DOE said Silver was unavailable
for comment."
Basically, almost all of the stimulus money (about 787 billion
dollars) went directly into the pockets of Obama cronies but these
fools are not even able to do crony crapitalism well as Solyndra has
gone bankrupt. That $500 million woulda got a lot of real jobs if the
money was in the hands of the people who paid the taxes.

_______________________________________________
Yesterday the guy with the next building said, they should have used the
money to improve their business, instead of building a new, extravagant
building. Problem over the years in the Silicon Valley of show over
meaning.

Therefore, it's Obama's fault. Good grief!

Finally you catch on, D'Plume!


Reply:
yes, it is the governments fault. Why give a a half a billion bucks
without some controls. Even banks giving construction loans do not issue
a check for the amount to the builder. They put the money in an escrow
account and legitimate bills are paid from it. The oversee the loan to
prevent just this point. Use the money for what is was loaned for, not
for show.

I don't think it will happen, but the only solution is for a strong
leader and strong dedicated congress to do the long over due clean up of
the government. Quite literally 1/2 the size of government or less.
Tell Bernanke to stop printing money like sand. Have people arrested
for these huge frauds in banking be they big or small. And ut some
sense back into the system. Right now the whole USA is running on pure
bull**** and it isn't going to work much longer.


--
If it is all Bush's fault, then how come Obama is doing much more of the
same and expecting different results?

On 01/09/2011 11:42 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 22:17:56 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...

Barron's reportson Solyndra, the solar company backed by the gov with
over half a billion dollars in stimulus money:
"One of Solyndra's biggest stakeholders is Argonaut Ventures I. Its
majority owner is Oklahoma oil billionaire George Kaiser, who was a
"bundler"of campaign funds for the Obama-Biden campaign. This means he
collected contributions and sent them en masse to the candidates.
Kaiser e-mailed us an emphatic "NO" when we asked if he played any
role in the pursuit of the loan guarantees.

In November, Chu appointed venture capitalist Jonathan Silver to
oversee the DOE's loan guarantee program and its Advanced Technology
Vehicles Manufacturing Loan Program. Silver had been a managing
partner at Core Capital Partners in Washington. Coincidentally, one of
his colleagues there was Tom Wheeler, another Obama-Biden fund
bundler. Silver is supposed to help Chu accelerate loan reviews.
According to a November press release, "Silver will be responsible for
staffing the programs, and leading origination, analysis, and
negotiation, as well as managing the full range of the Department's
alternative energy investments." The DOE said Silver was unavailable
for comment."
Basically, almost all of the stimulus money (about 787 billion
dollars) went directly into the pockets of Obama cronies but these
fools are not even able to do crony crapitalism well as Solyndra has
gone bankrupt. That $500 million woulda got a lot of real jobs if the
money was in the hands of the people who paid the taxes.


_______________________________________________
Yesterday the guy with the next building said, they should have used the
money to improve their business, instead of building a new, extravagant
building. Problem over the years in the Silicon Valley of show over
meaning.

Therefore, it's Obama's fault. Good grief!

Did you see the light? Wow. You finally got it.
--
If it is all Bush's fault, then how come Obama is doing much more of the
same and expecting different results?

On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 11:21:17 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 01/09/2011 11:42 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 22:17:56 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...

Barron's reportson Solyndra, the solar company backed by the gov with
over half a billion dollars in stimulus money:
"One of Solyndra's biggest stakeholders is Argonaut Ventures I. Its
majority owner is Oklahoma oil billionaire George Kaiser, who was a
"bundler"of campaign funds for the Obama-Biden campaign. This means he
collected contributions and sent them en masse to the candidates.
Kaiser e-mailed us an emphatic "NO" when we asked if he played any
role in the pursuit of the loan guarantees.

In November, Chu appointed venture capitalist Jonathan Silver to
oversee the DOE's loan guarantee program and its Advanced Technology
Vehicles Manufacturing Loan Program. Silver had been a managing
partner at Core Capital Partners in Washington. Coincidentally, one of
his colleagues there was Tom Wheeler, another Obama-Biden fund
bundler. Silver is supposed to help Chu accelerate loan reviews.
According to a November press release, "Silver will be responsible for
staffing the programs, and leading origination, analysis, and
negotiation, as well as managing the full range of the Department's
alternative energy investments." The DOE said Silver was unavailable
for comment."
Basically, almost all of the stimulus money (about 787 billion
dollars) went directly into the pockets of Obama cronies but these
fools are not even able to do crony crapitalism well as Solyndra has
gone bankrupt. That $500 million woulda got a lot of real jobs if the
money was in the hands of the people who paid the taxes.


_______________________________________________
Yesterday the guy with the next building said, they should have used the
money to improve their business, instead of building a new, extravagant
building. Problem over the years in the Silicon Valley of show over
meaning.

Therefore, it's Obama's fault. Good grief!

Did you see the light? Wow. You finally got it.

Did you see the stupid guy in the mirror. Wow. You finally got it.

On 01/09/2011 6:55 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
Barron's reportson Solyndra, the solar company backed by the gov with
over half a billion dollars in stimulus money:
"One of Solyndra's biggest stakeholders is Argonaut Ventures I. Its
majority owner is Oklahoma oil billionaire George Kaiser, who was a
"bundler"of campaign funds for the Obama-Biden campaign. This means he
collected contributions and sent them en masse to the candidates.
Kaiser e-mailed us an emphatic "NO" when we asked if he played any
role in the pursuit of the loan guarantees.

In November, Chu appointed venture capitalist Jonathan Silver to
oversee the DOE's loan guarantee program and its Advanced Technology
Vehicles Manufacturing Loan Program. Silver had been a managing
partner at Core Capital Partners in Washington. Coincidentally, one of
his colleagues there was Tom Wheeler, another Obama-Biden fund
bundler. Silver is supposed to help Chu accelerate loan reviews.
According to a November press release, "Silver will be responsible for
staffing the programs, and leading origination, analysis, and
negotiation, as well as managing the full range of the Department's
alternative energy investments." The DOE said Silver was unavailable
for comment."
Basically, almost all of the stimulus money (about 787 billion
dollars) went directly into the pockets of Obama cronies but these
fools are not even able to do crony crapitalism well as Solyndra has
gone bankrupt. That $500 million woulda got a lot of real jobs if the
money was in the hands of the people who paid the taxes.

That is why Obama was moneyed up into the primaries. Payola, buddy
deals. Screw the people with "...just more debt...".

Fact is, USA is now hosed from Obama and those that dishonor debts.

--
If it is all Bush's fault, then how come Obama is doing much more of the
same and expecting different results?