Wow, this is one tough crowd. There is quite a resentment of Bayliners
here. Glad I don't own one. Reminds me of the audiophile areas I
frequent. Ever hear of Bose speakers? They are to audio what Bayliner is
to boats. No highs- no lows-- must be Bose.

Black-n-Gold wrote:

Saw a boat for sale last night - a 1977 Bayliner - that the owner had just
installed laminate flooring on. Looks very cool, however I don't know how
practical it is.


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scottht wrote:

Wow, this is one tough crowd. There is quite a resentment of Bayliners
here. Glad I don't own one. Reminds me of the audiophile areas I
frequent. Ever hear of Bose speakers? They are to audio what Bayliner is
to boats. No highs- no lows-- must be Bose.



I've never understood the clamor for Bose speakers. To me, they sound
like...small speakers. When it comes to reproducing sound accurately, I
don't believe you can fool the laws of physics.

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Harry Krause wrote:

scottht wrote:

Wow, this is one tough crowd. There is quite a resentment of Bayliners
here. Glad I don't own one. Reminds me of the audiophile areas I
frequent. Ever hear of Bose speakers? They are to audio what Bayliner is
to boats. No highs- no lows-- must be Bose.



I've never understood the clamor for Bose speakers. To me, they sound
like...small speakers. When it comes to reproducing sound accurately, I
don't believe you can fool the laws of physics.

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email sent to will *never* get to me.


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Harry Krause wrote in message ...
scottht wrote:

Wow, this is one tough crowd. There is quite a resentment of Bayliners
here. Glad I don't own one. Reminds me of the audiophile areas I
frequent. Ever hear of Bose speakers? They are to audio what Bayliner is
to boats. No highs- no lows-- must be Bose.



I've never understood the clamor for Bose speakers. To me, they sound
like...small speakers. When it comes to reproducing sound accurately, I
don't believe you can fool the laws of physics.

There are some very small speakers coming of age with awesome sound.
Using ceramics, and rare earth magnets.

"basskisser" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote in message
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scottht wrote:

Wow, this is one tough crowd. There is quite a resentment of Bayliners
here. Glad I don't own one. Reminds me of the audiophile areas I
frequent. Ever hear of Bose speakers? They are to audio what Bayliner
is
to boats. No highs- no lows-- must be Bose.



I've never understood the clamor for Bose speakers. To me, they sound
like...small speakers. When it comes to reproducing sound accurately, I
don't believe you can fool the laws of physics.

There are some very small speakers coming of age with awesome sound.
Using ceramics, and rare earth magnets.


I'm sure, but I don't know enough about the physics of accoustics to
understand how a tiny speaker can move the air necessary to create the low
sounds found in the serious music I enjoy. As an example, I have an old
Hammond B3, with a Leslie speaker. It's a fine electronic organ, though
certainly not state of the art. I can make it emulate a pipe organ, and it
sounds fine doing so. But it doesn't sound like anything Dirk Flentrop
built.

And won't come close to anything that Hope Jones built

Harry Krause wrote:

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scottht wrote:


Wow, this is one tough crowd. There is quite a resentment of Bayliners
here. Glad I don't own one. Reminds me of the audiophile areas I
frequent. Ever hear of Bose speakers? They are to audio what Bayliner

is

to boats. No highs- no lows-- must be Bose.



I've never understood the clamor for Bose speakers. To me, they sound
like...small speakers. When it comes to reproducing sound accurately, I
don't believe you can fool the laws of physics.

There are some very small speakers coming of age with awesome sound.
Using ceramics, and rare earth magnets.



I'm sure, but I don't know enough about the physics of accoustics to
understand how a tiny speaker can move the air necessary to create the low
sounds found in the serious music I enjoy. As an example, I have an old
Hammond B3, with a Leslie speaker. It's a fine electronic organ, though
certainly not state of the art. I can make it emulate a pipe organ, and it
sounds fine doing so. But it doesn't sound like anything Dirk Flentrop
built.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message ...
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote in message
...
scottht wrote:

Wow, this is one tough crowd. There is quite a resentment of Bayliners
here. Glad I don't own one. Reminds me of the audiophile areas I
frequent. Ever hear of Bose speakers? They are to audio what Bayliner
is
to boats. No highs- no lows-- must be Bose.



I've never understood the clamor for Bose speakers. To me, they sound
like...small speakers. When it comes to reproducing sound accurately, I
don't believe you can fool the laws of physics.

There are some very small speakers coming of age with awesome sound.
Using ceramics, and rare earth magnets.


I'm sure, but I don't know enough about the physics of accoustics to
understand how a tiny speaker can move the air necessary to create the low
sounds found in the serious music I enjoy. As an example, I have an old
Hammond B3, with a Leslie speaker. It's a fine electronic organ, though
certainly not state of the art. I can make it emulate a pipe organ, and it
sounds fine doing so. But it doesn't sound like anything Dirk Flentrop
built.

While not a physics expert, I agree with the moving air statement.
That being said, I don't know how they do it, but they do. Some high
end small speakers surprise you with there sound. Does your B3 have
the turntable speaker? LOVE those!

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:37:18 +0000, Harry Krause wrote:


"basskisser" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote in message
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scottht wrote:

Wow, this is one tough crowd. There is quite a resentment of Bayliners
here. Glad I don't own one. Reminds me of the audiophile areas I
frequent. Ever hear of Bose speakers? They are to audio what Bayliner
is
to boats. No highs- no lows-- must be Bose.



I've never understood the clamor for Bose speakers. To me, they sound
like...small speakers. When it comes to reproducing sound accurately, I
don't believe you can fool the laws of physics.

There are some very small speakers coming of age with awesome sound.
Using ceramics, and rare earth magnets.


I'm sure, but I don't know enough about the physics of accoustics to
understand how a tiny speaker can move the air necessary to create the low
sounds found in the serious music I enjoy. As an example, I have an old
Hammond B3, with a Leslie speaker. It's a fine electronic organ, though
certainly not state of the art. I can make it emulate a pipe organ, and it
sounds fine doing so. But it doesn't sound like anything Dirk Flentrop
built.

In fact, I've never heard anything electronic that truly "sounds just
like" a REAL Leslie speaker!

And I agree about Bose - never liked them. Geez, they've been using
ceramics and rare-earth magnets for 40 years...

I have a Marantz 2325 driving homebuilt 3-way speakers (the wood alone
cost almost $1000) Haven't heard a "modern" system that can beat it yet.

Lloyd

In fact, I've never heard anything electronic that truly "sounds just
like" a REAL Leslie speaker!

Can't be done, unless one set up an almost continuous row of speakers and
figured out how to fire them sequentially.
Much easier to use the real McCoy.

The magic of a Leslie isn't just the rise and fall of the tremolo, it's the
directional nature of sound as it reflects off of every vertical surface near
the stage. A Leslie speaker
literally immerses the audience in a nice, plump, chord. The electronic
equivalent sounds exactly like somebody *recorded* a Leslie speaker. Not the
same thing.

Until recently, keyboard players have been
plagued with staggering loads of gear.
The poor guy dragging an awkward, heavy, bulky Fender Rhodes 88, (or the crew
it takes to hoist a traditional B3) up a flight of steps from the loading zone
has to look somewhat enviously at the guys carrying
5-pound guitars.

Music is becoming so anemic. Every little electronic trick makes "live" music
sound more and more like a badly engineered recording. You almost have to
accept that in a small club without much of an audience all "drumming" will be
done by an invisible robot......but some of the current technology is getting
extreme. These "smart" microphones that make virtually anybody sound like they
can sing, (and most especially harmonize), actually erase
some of the characteristic overtones that make a good vocal talent a special
treat.