On 06/08/2011 5:18 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:24:31 -0600,
wrote:

On 06/08/2011 11:22 AM, wrote:

Well, you don't need to get any more stupid. Greg is promoting it as
better than cash. So, why would he sell them for cash? What's it going
to get him? He can't eat the silver.

It is over the long term. It isn't over the short term.

Imagine if you spent $1000 on gold in 1933 at $20 an ounce. Today that
50 ounces would be worth at least $83,000.

But your $1000 in fiat paper would still only be $1000.

Cash is a rapidly depreciating asset due to bank and government fraud.

A thousand dollars at today's prices would have been worth about
$16,000 in 1933 when you factor in the inflation.

Funny, after taxes on interest that is often below inflation, your not
going to find a money lending instrument that can beat gold over the
long haul. Gold was $20 an ounce at the beginning of 1933 and $35 an
ounce at the end of 1933 alone. Today it is 1666, over 83 times in
currency value. No bank account or CD/GIC beat that.

In the other hand the Dow was trading in the low 50s so if you bought
a good portfolio of stocks you would be doing real well. If you didn't
have too much GM.

Depends, GM would be good if you sold out say 35 years ago and bought
IBM or Cisco.

--
Seems like paying your bills with real money is no longer the accepted
behavior in USA. Perhaps that is the problem and not the the solution.

On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 19:41:56 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 06/08/2011 5:03 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:24:31 -0600,
wrote:

On 06/08/2011 11:22 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 04:40:31 -0400, wrote:

On 8/6/2011 3:02 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 02:44:05 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:04:12 -0600,
wrote:

On 05/08/2011 11:56 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:05:38 -0600,
wrote:

On 05/08/2011 12:39 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 01:19:54 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:21:00 -0400, X -
wrote:

On 8/4/11 8:10 PM, wrote:

You would have locked in that 12700 Dow and be grinning while you watched this crash from
the sidelines.

At some point, American small investors are going to realize the stock
market is a fraud, and they'll look elsewhere to invest their retirement
and savings assets.

BTW, unlike you and Canuckles, I don't seen anything humorous about a
stock slide. What it does is hurt small investors.

Perhaps "grin" was a poor choice of words but it was clear to me that
there was a serious correction coming when this debt thing started and
I was relieved that I did not have to go down with that ship.

I have cashed in most of my personally held equities and I reallocated
my funds.

I am going to sit on side for a while and wait for some positive news
coming out of the economy before I get back in the market again. I
have a feeling that might be a while.
There may be a few trades that you can play with but I am not even
willing to look at this mess right now. Things are far too uncertain
and I don't see anything coming out if DC that is going to make that
any better any time soon.

That $5000 bag of quarters I keep getting **** about may easily go
over $30,000 by Christmas. I hope not because that would imply the
value of the dollar dropped significantly.

Well, I'm sure your oracle-like traits are just kicking in.

So, how are you going to cash in your $30K wealth? Perhaps illegally
melt down the quarters? I'm still waiting for your reasoned response.

How are you planning on separating the silver from the copper in that
case? To whom do you expect to sell your quarters if not? Are you
going to try and buy a car in quarters?

No, I don't expect any reasoned response.

Melt it. When he decides to sell, the buyer will cut 10 or 15%, factor
in copper versus silver and decide the rate.

It will not go down in value to the USD.

So, again you're advocating breaking the law. Typical little ****
response.

Not at all, it is legal in Mexico and Canada.

Nobody melts these coins to extract the silver. "melt weight" is just
an indication of how much silver is there to peg the price
I guess plum thinks people have to melt, Eagles, Maple Leafs or
Kruggerrands to get their money out of them too.


Here's what you wrote in case you forgot:

"These are not really collector grade coins. They have the worse than
the normal wear you see on the ones in your pocket. I am sure they
were picked over, looking for collectable dates, many times before
they made it to the "melt weight" bag."

So, how are you going to sell them for their "value"?


Get educated:

http://www.coinflation.com/silver_coin_values.html

Well, you don't need to get any more stupid. Greg is promoting it as
better than cash. So, why would he sell them for cash? What's it going
to get him? He can't eat the silver.

It is over the long term. It isn't over the short term.

Imagine if you spent $1000 on gold in 1933 at $20 an ounce. Today that
50 ounces would be worth at least $83,000.

But your $1000 in fiat paper would still only be $1000.

Cash is a rapidly depreciating asset due to bank and government fraud.

Over the long term, if you're nutcase theory about the end of America
were true, the "value" of the quarters be worthless.

First, it isn't the end of America and the sky isn't going to fall.
Unless of course you are Hank Johnson perhaps.

What will happen is a marked lower of standard of living for 90% of
Americans.

Feel free to buy your next car in "silver" quarters and try to
convince the salesperson that they're worth more than 25 cents.

Funny, bet my gold buys more car in 10 years than that depreciating USD.
Pretty safe bet as cars have never been cheaper in terms of
depreciating currency in any 10 year period of time since they made the
first one.

They sure tried! If they had their way, they would gut all the
programs that make this a great place to live.

Pretty safe bet that CAFE standards are going up, but there's no bet
required for you. You're an idiot.

On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 19:46:24 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 06/08/2011 5:18 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:24:31 -0600,
wrote:

On 06/08/2011 11:22 AM, wrote:

Well, you don't need to get any more stupid. Greg is promoting it as
better than cash. So, why would he sell them for cash? What's it going
to get him? He can't eat the silver.

It is over the long term. It isn't over the short term.

Imagine if you spent $1000 on gold in 1933 at $20 an ounce. Today that
50 ounces would be worth at least $83,000.

But your $1000 in fiat paper would still only be $1000.

Cash is a rapidly depreciating asset due to bank and government fraud.

A thousand dollars at today's prices would have been worth about
$16,000 in 1933 when you factor in the inflation.

Funny, after taxes on interest that is often below inflation, your not
going to find a money lending instrument that can beat gold over the
long haul. Gold was $20 an ounce at the beginning of 1933 and $35 an
ounce at the end of 1933 alone. Today it is 1666, over 83 times in
currency value. No bank account or CD/GIC beat that.

In the other hand the Dow was trading in the low 50s so if you bought
a good portfolio of stocks you would be doing real well. If you didn't
have too much GM.

Depends, GM would be good if you sold out say 35 years ago and bought
IBM or Cisco.

Not funny you're stupid. It's pathetic.

In article ,
says...

On 8/6/11 7:04 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:21:41 -0600,
wrote:

On 06/08/2011 2:40 AM, Disgusted wrote:
On 8/6/2011 3:02 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 02:44:05 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:04:12 -0600,
wrote:

On 05/08/2011 11:56 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:05:38 -0600,
wrote:

On 05/08/2011 12:39 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 01:19:54 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:21:00 -0400, X -
wrote:

On 8/4/11 8:10 PM, wrote:

You would have locked in that 12700 Dow and be grinning while
you watched this crash from
the sidelines.

At some point, American small investors are going to realize
the stock
market is a fraud, and they'll look elsewhere to invest their
retirement
and savings assets.

BTW, unlike you and Canuckles, I don't seen anything humorous
about a
stock slide. What it does is hurt small investors.

Perhaps "grin" was a poor choice of words but it was clear to me
that
there was a serious correction coming when this debt thing
started and
I was relieved that I did not have to go down with that ship.

I have cashed in most of my personally held equities and I
reallocated
my funds.

I am going to sit on side for a while and wait for some positive
news
coming out of the economy before I get back in the market again. I
have a feeling that might be a while.
There may be a few trades that you can play with but I am not even
willing to look at this mess right now. Things are far too
uncertain
and I don't see anything coming out if DC that is going to make
that
any better any time soon.

That $5000 bag of quarters I keep getting **** about may easily go
over $30,000 by Christmas. I hope not because that would imply the
value of the dollar dropped significantly.

Well, I'm sure your oracle-like traits are just kicking in.

So, how are you going to cash in your $30K wealth? Perhaps illegally
melt down the quarters? I'm still waiting for your reasoned
response.

How are you planning on separating the silver from the copper in
that
case? To whom do you expect to sell your quarters if not? Are you
going to try and buy a car in quarters?

No, I don't expect any reasoned response.

Melt it. When he decides to sell, the buyer will cut 10 or 15%,
factor
in copper versus silver and decide the rate.

It will not go down in value to the USD.

So, again you're advocating breaking the law. Typical little ****
response.

Not at all, it is legal in Mexico and Canada.

Nobody melts these coins to extract the silver. "melt weight" is just
an indication of how much silver is there to peg the price
I guess plum thinks people have to melt, Eagles, Maple Leafs or
Kruggerrands to get their money out of them too.


Here's what you wrote in case you forgot:

"These are not really collector grade coins. They have the worse than
the normal wear you see on the ones in your pocket. I am sure they
were picked over, looking for collectable dates, many times before
they made it to the "melt weight" bag."

So, how are you going to sell them for their "value"?


Get educated:

http://www.coinflation.com/silver_coin_values.html

Mint packaged collector editions of the 1990 one ounce silver maple
leafs I have, never fingered and not bulk packaged with scratches,
flawless condition, I am sure are worth $40 in metal. I paid $5.20 each
for them.

Only wish I bought a 1000.

Except Greg specifically said they're not collector quality.

You never bought any silver anything. Prove it. Lay them all out, take
a picture, and post it. I'm sure you can borrow a camera from someone.
(Hint: use a digital camera)


He's probably got a silver amalgam filling.

My grandfathers gave me a small bagful of Morgan silver dollars at every
birthday. They started collecting them shortly after they arrived in
America. I guess it was a thing to do back then. Anyway, I still have
them all, the ones they gave me and the ones my parents inherited when
their parents died. I forgot how many there were, quite a few, and they
live in a big safety deposit box at the bank, along with some other
stuff. Some of them date back to the late 19th Century, others are from
the early 20th Century. I wouldn't think of selling them...they'll be
passed along at the appropriate time.

Bull**** spoofer.