Not only has China reduced the US credit rating, they have reduced their
holdings of US debt. Once as high as $2.1 trillion, now only $1.15
trillion as everyone knows, USD is experiencing Bernanke currency fraud.
No one buys US treasuries any more, Bernanke prints it.

The Bernake doctrine of inflation causing unemployment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernanke_Doctrine

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/w...ow/9470675.cms

Moody was paid off of course, but given Moody failed to warn Enron, GM,
GMAC, Chrysler, Greece and others, no wonder no one trusts a Moody
rating. Lets see if S&P is a better service.

It is sad that so many believe the road to wealth is paved with debt.
They will only find poverty at the end of that road.

--
Seems like paying your bills with real money is no longer the accepted
behavior in USA. Perhaps that is the problem and not the the solution.

On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 09:07:14 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


Not only has China reduced the US credit rating, they have reduced their
holdings of US debt. Once as high as $2.1 trillion, now only $1.15
trillion as everyone knows, USD is experiencing Bernanke currency fraud.
No one buys US treasuries any more, Bernanke prints it.

The Bernake doctrine of inflation causing unemployment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernanke_Doctrine

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/w...ow/9470675.cms

Moody was paid off of course, but given Moody failed to warn Enron, GM,
GMAC, Chrysler, Greece and others, no wonder no one trusts a Moody
rating. Lets see if S&P is a better service.

It is sad that so many believe the road to wealth is paved with debt.
They will only find poverty at the end of that road.

As though China's agency is that important - a country that
artificially lowers the value of the Yuan. It's ok for them to have a
weak currency, but when the US dollar devalues, the world ends,
according to morons like you.

In any case, thanks to the wackos for the manufactured debt ceiling
crisis - the nutcases "win" by damaging the US economy and destroying
jobs. Good show!

On 8/3/11 2:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 09:07:14 -0600,
wrote:


Not only has China reduced the US credit rating, they have reduced their
holdings of US debt. Once as high as $2.1 trillion, now only $1.15
trillion as everyone knows, USD is experiencing Bernanke currency fraud.
No one buys US treasuries any more, Bernanke prints it.

The Bernake doctrine of inflation causing unemployment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernanke_Doctrine

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/w...ow/9470675.cms

Moody was paid off of course, but given Moody failed to warn Enron, GM,
GMAC, Chrysler, Greece and others, no wonder no one trusts a Moody
rating. Lets see if S&P is a better service.

It is sad that so many believe the road to wealth is paved with debt.
They will only find poverty at the end of that road.

As though China's agency is that important - a country that
artificially lowers the value of the Yuan. It's ok for them to have a
weak currency, but when the US dollar devalues, the world ends,
according to morons like you.

In any case, thanks to the wackos for the manufactured debt ceiling
crisis - the nutcases "win" by damaging the US economy and destroying
jobs. Good show!


The GOP congressional leaders said just that, that they would do
anything to help prevent Obama's re-election, and that included further
damaging the US economy.

--
Don't forget to leave a bit of beef for rec.boat's right-wing
conservatrashers and ID spoofers to feed upon. The more they feed, the
quicker rec.boats will fall into the black hole of cyberspace and disappear.

On 8/3/2011 2:47 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/3/11 2:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 09:07:14 -0600,
wrote:


Not only has China reduced the US credit rating, they have reduced their
holdings of US debt. Once as high as $2.1 trillion, now only $1.15
trillion as everyone knows, USD is experiencing Bernanke currency fraud.
No one buys US treasuries any more, Bernanke prints it.

The Bernake doctrine of inflation causing unemployment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernanke_Doctrine

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/w...ow/9470675.cms


Moody was paid off of course, but given Moody failed to warn Enron, GM,
GMAC, Chrysler, Greece and others, no wonder no one trusts a Moody
rating. Lets see if S&P is a better service.

It is sad that so many believe the road to wealth is paved with debt.
They will only find poverty at the end of that road.

As though China's agency is that important - a country that
artificially lowers the value of the Yuan. It's ok for them to have a
weak currency, but when the US dollar devalues, the world ends,
according to morons like you.

In any case, thanks to the wackos for the manufactured debt ceiling
crisis - the nutcases "win" by damaging the US economy and destroying
jobs. Good show!


The GOP congressional leaders said just that, that they would do
anything to help prevent Obama's re-election, and that included further
damaging the US economy.

Washington only listens to Wall Street and it could care less about an
"America." We have hedge funds gaining global monopoly on basic
commodities.
We have every other nation, on earth looking out for their best
interest, except the one's falling apart like Greece and us.
China has always been playing economics with global strategic advantage
as the Marxist goal.
Share the wealth or really share the poverty, instability and struggle
with all those places that never went anywhere except with our handouts.
China would still be a third world beggar if not for Kissinger and Nixon
and Globalists.
We shared or gave our wealth now we are sharing their poverty
insecurity, creeping socialism or communism, reduced or eliminated
American Dream for our kids.
Thank a Globalist merchant or Banker.

On 03/08/2011 12:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 09:07:14 -0600,
wrote:


Not only has China reduced the US credit rating, they have reduced their
holdings of US debt. Once as high as $2.1 trillion, now only $1.15
trillion as everyone knows, USD is experiencing Bernanke currency fraud.
No one buys US treasuries any more, Bernanke prints it.

The Bernake doctrine of inflation causing unemployment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernanke_Doctrine

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/w...ow/9470675.cms

Moody was paid off of course, but given Moody failed to warn Enron, GM,
GMAC, Chrysler, Greece and others, no wonder no one trusts a Moody
rating. Lets see if S&P is a better service.

It is sad that so many believe the road to wealth is paved with debt.
They will only find poverty at the end of that road.

As though China's agency is that important - a country that
artificially lowers the value of the Yuan. It's ok for them to have a
weak currency, but when the US dollar devalues, the world ends,
according to morons like you.

In any case, thanks to the wackos for the manufactured debt ceiling
crisis - the nutcases "win" by damaging the US economy and destroying
jobs. Good show!

They do that to fight the US Fed currency fraud. But as the US
treasuries come due, China is pulling out the USD and buying companies
and real assets around the world, mostly outside of the USA. They even
buy 100s of tons of gold.

Hey, I agree USA is being sucked dry of wealth. Not everyone is a
fleabagger with their ass on their shoulders worshiping debt like a god.
I just completed my exit USA planning session with my tax accountant
on how best to get my remaining moneys out of the USA investments in the
most tax efficient manner. Will only cost me 15% so I gave the just
orders to execute it.

You should read up on debt currency crisis of Argentinian, Germans in
the early 30's, Zimbabwe, Asian currency crisis circa 1990 or so,
Iceland and others. No glory had being invested with delinquent debtors
and sticking around for the carnage of debt-tax greed.

In 1933, after the double dip of 1932, US government issued an executive
order to confiscate gold at $20/ounce and then pegged it to $35 casing
75% over night inflation. I am sure the government greedy statists are
cooking up something for 2012 or beyond. Who knows, maybe an
incremental tax grab of 18% national VAT.

But it is clear in any case the USA economy is toast for decades to
come. No glory in delinquent debtors. And Bernanke can't print money
like grains of sand or toilet paper forever. Countries are moving off
the USD as a world reserve. No glory there either.

Basically fleabagger greed killed the USA economy with dishonored debts.

--
Seems like paying your bills with real money is no longer the accepted
behavior in USA. Perhaps that is the problem and not the the solution.

On 03/08/2011 12:47 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/3/11 2:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 09:07:14 -0600,
wrote:


Not only has China reduced the US credit rating, they have reduced their
holdings of US debt. Once as high as $2.1 trillion, now only $1.15
trillion as everyone knows, USD is experiencing Bernanke currency fraud.
No one buys US treasuries any more, Bernanke prints it.

The Bernake doctrine of inflation causing unemployment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernanke_Doctrine

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/w...ow/9470675.cms


Moody was paid off of course, but given Moody failed to warn Enron, GM,
GMAC, Chrysler, Greece and others, no wonder no one trusts a Moody
rating. Lets see if S&P is a better service.

It is sad that so many believe the road to wealth is paved with debt.
They will only find poverty at the end of that road.

As though China's agency is that important - a country that
artificially lowers the value of the Yuan. It's ok for them to have a
weak currency, but when the US dollar devalues, the world ends,
according to morons like you.

In any case, thanks to the wackos for the manufactured debt ceiling
crisis - the nutcases "win" by damaging the US economy and destroying
jobs. Good show!


The GOP congressional leaders said just that, that they would do
anything to help prevent Obama's re-election, and that included further
damaging the US economy.

Funny, Bernanke-democrat fleabaggerism hasn't worked since 2006
democraters got elected where unemployment started to grow. Now you
want to do 4 more years of the same thing expecting different results?
See Einstein's description of insanity.

Good luck with fleabaggerism. You are going to need it.
--
Seems like paying your bills with real money is no longer the accepted
behavior in USA. Perhaps that is the problem and not the the solution.

On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 16:05:12 -0400, LilAbner wrote:

On 8/3/2011 2:47 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/3/11 2:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 09:07:14 -0600,
wrote:


Not only has China reduced the US credit rating, they have reduced their
holdings of US debt. Once as high as $2.1 trillion, now only $1.15
trillion as everyone knows, USD is experiencing Bernanke currency fraud.
No one buys US treasuries any more, Bernanke prints it.

The Bernake doctrine of inflation causing unemployment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernanke_Doctrine

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/w...ow/9470675.cms


Moody was paid off of course, but given Moody failed to warn Enron, GM,
GMAC, Chrysler, Greece and others, no wonder no one trusts a Moody
rating. Lets see if S&P is a better service.

It is sad that so many believe the road to wealth is paved with debt.
They will only find poverty at the end of that road.

As though China's agency is that important - a country that
artificially lowers the value of the Yuan. It's ok for them to have a
weak currency, but when the US dollar devalues, the world ends,
according to morons like you.

In any case, thanks to the wackos for the manufactured debt ceiling
crisis - the nutcases "win" by damaging the US economy and destroying
jobs. Good show!


The GOP congressional leaders said just that, that they would do
anything to help prevent Obama's re-election, and that included further
damaging the US economy.

Washington only listens to Wall Street and it could care less about an
"America." We have hedge funds gaining global monopoly on basic
commodities.

Yes, this is true. Thus, we need regulations in place and enforced to
compel WS to act responsibly. This take it out of the pay for play
political game.

We have every other nation, on earth looking out for their best
interest, except the one's falling apart like Greece and us.

We are not "falling apart" and certainly not like Greece. There is no
immediate financial crisis, esp. wrt the debt ceiling hostage taking.

China has always been playing economics with global strategic advantage
as the Marxist goal.

Tell this to Knuckles. He thinks they are just one great place!

Share the wealth or really share the poverty, instability and struggle
with all those places that never went anywhere except with our handouts.
China would still be a third world beggar if not for Kissinger and Nixon
and Globalists.

I cannot nor should anyone support isolationism. That gets us into
wars.

We shared or gave our wealth now we are sharing their poverty
insecurity, creeping socialism or communism, reduced or eliminated
American Dream for our kids.
Thank a Globalist merchant or Banker.

There is no such thing as creeping socialism in the US. We've been
socialist except in name since FDR. Feel free to give up your Social
Security and Medicare/Medicaid if you prefer.

On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 14:17:41 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 03/08/2011 12:47 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/3/11 2:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 09:07:14 -0600,
wrote:


Not only has China reduced the US credit rating, they have reduced their
holdings of US debt. Once as high as $2.1 trillion, now only $1.15
trillion as everyone knows, USD is experiencing Bernanke currency fraud.
No one buys US treasuries any more, Bernanke prints it.

The Bernake doctrine of inflation causing unemployment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernanke_Doctrine

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/w...ow/9470675.cms


Moody was paid off of course, but given Moody failed to warn Enron, GM,
GMAC, Chrysler, Greece and others, no wonder no one trusts a Moody
rating. Lets see if S&P is a better service.

It is sad that so many believe the road to wealth is paved with debt.
They will only find poverty at the end of that road.

As though China's agency is that important - a country that
artificially lowers the value of the Yuan. It's ok for them to have a
weak currency, but when the US dollar devalues, the world ends,
according to morons like you.

In any case, thanks to the wackos for the manufactured debt ceiling
crisis - the nutcases "win" by damaging the US economy and destroying
jobs. Good show!


The GOP congressional leaders said just that, that they would do
anything to help prevent Obama's re-election, and that included further
damaging the US economy.

Funny, Bernanke-democrat fleabaggerism hasn't worked since 2006
democraters got elected where unemployment started to grow. Now you
want to do 4 more years of the same thing expecting different results?
See Einstein's description of insanity.

Good luck with fleabaggerism. You are going to need it.

Good luck with stupidity. You don't need it, but you got it!

On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 14:14:34 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 03/08/2011 12:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 09:07:14 -0600,
wrote:


Not only has China reduced the US credit rating, they have reduced their
holdings of US debt. Once as high as $2.1 trillion, now only $1.15
trillion as everyone knows, USD is experiencing Bernanke currency fraud.
No one buys US treasuries any more, Bernanke prints it.

The Bernake doctrine of inflation causing unemployment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernanke_Doctrine

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/w...ow/9470675.cms

Moody was paid off of course, but given Moody failed to warn Enron, GM,
GMAC, Chrysler, Greece and others, no wonder no one trusts a Moody
rating. Lets see if S&P is a better service.

It is sad that so many believe the road to wealth is paved with debt.
They will only find poverty at the end of that road.

As though China's agency is that important - a country that
artificially lowers the value of the Yuan. It's ok for them to have a
weak currency, but when the US dollar devalues, the world ends,
according to morons like you.

In any case, thanks to the wackos for the manufactured debt ceiling
crisis - the nutcases "win" by damaging the US economy and destroying
jobs. Good show!

They do that to fight the US Fed currency fraud. But as the US
treasuries come due, China is pulling out the USD and buying companies
and real assets around the world, mostly outside of the USA. They even
buy 100s of tons of gold.

Hey, I agree USA is being sucked dry of wealth. Not everyone is a
fleabagger with their ass on their shoulders worshiping debt like a god.
I just completed my exit USA planning session with my tax accountant
on how best to get my remaining moneys out of the USA investments in the
most tax efficient manner. Will only cost me 15% so I gave the just
orders to execute it.

You should read up on debt currency crisis of Argentinian, Germans in
the early 30's, Zimbabwe, Asian currency crisis circa 1990 or so,
Iceland and others. No glory had being invested with delinquent debtors
and sticking around for the carnage of debt-tax greed.

In 1933, after the double dip of 1932, US government issued an executive
order to confiscate gold at $20/ounce and then pegged it to $35 casing
75% over night inflation. I am sure the government greedy statists are
cooking up something for 2012 or beyond. Who knows, maybe an
incremental tax grab of 18% national VAT.

But it is clear in any case the USA economy is toast for decades to
come. No glory in delinquent debtors. And Bernanke can't print money
like grains of sand or toilet paper forever. Countries are moving off
the USD as a world reserve. No glory there either.

Basically fleabagger greed killed the USA economy with dishonored debts.

Feel free to support China over the US. That's about your speed.
Marxism over Capitalism seems to be your mantra, just like you
promoting stupidity over rationality.

On 8/3/2011 4:31 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 16:05:12 -0400, wrote:

On 8/3/2011 2:47 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/3/11 2:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 09:07:14 -0600,
wrote:


Not only has China reduced the US credit rating, they have reduced their
holdings of US debt. Once as high as $2.1 trillion, now only $1.15
trillion as everyone knows, USD is experiencing Bernanke currency fraud.
No one buys US treasuries any more, Bernanke prints it.

The Bernake doctrine of inflation causing unemployment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernanke_Doctrine

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/w...ow/9470675.cms


Moody was paid off of course, but given Moody failed to warn Enron, GM,
GMAC, Chrysler, Greece and others, no wonder no one trusts a Moody
rating. Lets see if S&P is a better service.

It is sad that so many believe the road to wealth is paved with debt.
They will only find poverty at the end of that road.

As though China's agency is that important - a country that
artificially lowers the value of the Yuan. It's ok for them to have a
weak currency, but when the US dollar devalues, the world ends,
according to morons like you.

In any case, thanks to the wackos for the manufactured debt ceiling
crisis - the nutcases "win" by damaging the US economy and destroying
jobs. Good show!


The GOP congressional leaders said just that, that they would do
anything to help prevent Obama's re-election, and that included further
damaging the US economy.

Washington only listens to Wall Street and it could care less about an
"America." We have hedge funds gaining global monopoly on basic
commodities.

Yes, this is true. Thus, we need regulations in place and enforced to
compel WS to act responsibly. This take it out of the pay for play
political game.

We have every other nation, on earth looking out for their best
interest, except the one's falling apart like Greece and us.

We are not "falling apart" and certainly not like Greece. There is no
immediate financial crisis, esp. wrt the debt ceiling hostage taking.

China has always been playing economics with global strategic advantage
as the Marxist goal.

Tell this to Knuckles. He thinks they are just one great place!

Share the wealth or really share the poverty, instability and struggle
with all those places that never went anywhere except with our handouts.
China would still be a third world beggar if not for Kissinger and Nixon
and Globalists.

I cannot nor should anyone support isolationism. That gets us into
wars.

We shared or gave our wealth now we are sharing their poverty
insecurity, creeping socialism or communism, reduced or eliminated
American Dream for our kids.
Thank a Globalist merchant or Banker.

There is no such thing as creeping socialism in the US. We've been
socialist except in name since FDR. Feel free to give up your Social
Security and Medicare/Medicaid if you prefer.
Look at it in the broader context, including remarks; not in political
affiliation or leaning.