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jps July 23rd 11 07:40 AM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.

Harryk July 23rd 11 11:24 AM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 7/23/11 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.



The majority of such terrorist attacks are perpetrated by political or
religious conservatives, whether they are blowing up camps in Norway,
Olympic games in Atlanta, abortion clinics and doctors anywhere, federal
office buildings in Oklahoma, the World Trade Center in New York.
There's something about "modern" conservatism that seems to attract
those who believe the terrorist approach is the only approach.


Tim July 23rd 11 01:21 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On Jul 23, 5:24*am, Harryk wrote:
On 7/23/11 2:40 AM, jps wrote:











Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...


The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.


The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.


Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.


Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.


A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.


On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.


The majority of such terrorist attacks are perpetrated by political or
religious conservatives, whether they are blowing up camps in Norway,
Olympic games in Atlanta, abortion clinics and doctors anywhere, federal
office buildings in Oklahoma, the World Trade Center in New York.
There's something about "modern" conservatism that seems to attract
those who believe the terrorist approach is the only approach.


Yeah, I guess I'm guilty too. I assassinated 7 ground hogs this year
because I thought it was more my right to maintain my property that I
thought it was their right to dig it up. And oh my! Just think of how
many mice I've poisoned. But hey! I'm doing the Lords work, right?

Harryk July 23rd 11 01:33 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 7/23/11 8:21 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 23, 5:24 am, wrote:
On 7/23/11 2:40 AM, jps wrote:











Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...


The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.


The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.


Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.


Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.


A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.


On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.


The majority of such terrorist attacks are perpetrated by political or
religious conservatives, whether they are blowing up camps in Norway,
Olympic games in Atlanta, abortion clinics and doctors anywhere, federal
office buildings in Oklahoma, the World Trade Center in New York.
There's something about "modern" conservatism that seems to attract
those who believe the terrorist approach is the only approach.


Yeah, I guess I'm guilty too. I assassinated 7 ground hogs this year
because I thought it was more my right to maintain my property that I
thought it was their right to dig it up. And oh my! Just think of how
many mice I've poisoned. But hey! I'm doing the Lords work, right?



We'll only shoot human home invaders around here. We have a couple of
groundhogs but they're not causing anyone grief.


Tim July 23rd 11 01:36 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On Jul 23, 7:21*am, Tim wrote:
On Jul 23, 5:24*am, Harryk wrote:









On 7/23/11 2:40 AM, jps wrote:


Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...


The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.


The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.


Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.


Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.


A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.


On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views..
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.


The majority of such terrorist attacks are perpetrated by political or
religious conservatives, whether they are blowing up camps in Norway,
Olympic games in Atlanta, abortion clinics and doctors anywhere, federal
office buildings in Oklahoma, the World Trade Center in New York.
There's something about "modern" conservatism that seems to attract
those who believe the terrorist approach is the only approach.


Yeah, I guess I'm guilty too. I assassinated 7 ground hogs this year
because I thought it was more my right to maintain my property that I
thought it was their right to dig it up. And oh my! *Just think of how
many mice I've poisoned. * But hey! I'm doing the Lords work, right?


Looks like he was also won of those 'freemasons' Yeah, we know how
'they' are...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...04_306x512.jpg

I_am_Tosk July 23rd 11 01:38 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
In article 8478ea4f-5e44-48f9-a8af-749c28b3d1e9
@h18g2000yqk.googlegroups.com, says...

On Jul 23, 5:24*am, Harryk wrote:
On 7/23/11 2:40 AM, jps wrote:











Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...


The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.


The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.


Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.


Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.


A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.


On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.


The majority of such terrorist attacks are perpetrated by political or
religious conservatives, whether they are blowing up camps in Norway,
Olympic games in Atlanta, abortion clinics and doctors anywhere, federal
office buildings in Oklahoma, the World Trade Center in New York.
There's something about "modern" conservatism that seems to attract
those who believe the terrorist approach is the only approach.


Yeah, I guess I'm guilty too. I assassinated 7 ground hogs this year
because I thought it was more my right to maintain my property that I
thought it was their right to dig it up. And oh my! Just think of how
many mice I've poisoned. But hey! I'm doing the Lords work, right?


It's a red herring Tim.. There are more people killed in the US all the
time by liberal robbers, rapists, and murders... Most of the folks
pulling those crimes, are not Christian or Conservative...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

Tim July 23rd 11 01:42 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On Jul 23, 7:38*am, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article 8478ea4f-5e44-48f9-a8af-749c28b3d1e9
@h18g2000yqk.googlegroups.com, says...











On Jul 23, 5:24*am, Harryk wrote:
On 7/23/11 2:40 AM, jps wrote:


Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...


The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.


The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.


Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.


Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.


A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.


On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.


The majority of such terrorist attacks are perpetrated by political or
religious conservatives, whether they are blowing up camps in Norway,
Olympic games in Atlanta, abortion clinics and doctors anywhere, federal
office buildings in Oklahoma, the World Trade Center in New York.
There's something about "modern" conservatism that seems to attract
those who believe the terrorist approach is the only approach.


Yeah, I guess I'm guilty too. I assassinated 7 ground hogs this year
because I thought it was more my right to maintain my property that I
thought it was their right to dig it up. And oh my! *Just think of how
many mice I've poisoned. * But hey! I'm doing the Lords work, right?


It's a red herring Tim.. There are more people killed in the US all the
time by liberal robbers, rapists, and murders... Most of the folks
pulling those crimes, are not Christian or Conservative...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!


I know, but it's obviously fun for some to profile and stereo-type
people to evidenly support and satisfy their thoughts about a race,
religion or group of others.....

Harryk July 23rd 11 01:48 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 7/23/11 8:38 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article8478ea4f-5e44-48f9-a8af-749c28b3d1e9
@h18g2000yqk.googlegroups.com, says...

On Jul 23, 5:24 am, wrote:
On 7/23/11 2:40 AM, jps wrote:











Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.

The majority of such terrorist attacks are perpetrated by political or
religious conservatives, whether they are blowing up camps in Norway,
Olympic games in Atlanta, abortion clinics and doctors anywhere, federal
office buildings in Oklahoma, the World Trade Center in New York.
There's something about "modern" conservatism that seems to attract
those who believe the terrorist approach is the only approach.


Yeah, I guess I'm guilty too. I assassinated 7 ground hogs this year
because I thought it was more my right to maintain my property that I
thought it was their right to dig it up. And oh my! Just think of how
many mice I've poisoned. But hey! I'm doing the Lords work, right?


It's a red herring Tim.. There are more people killed in the US all the
time by liberal robbers, rapists, and murders... Most of the folks
pulling those crimes, are not Christian or Conservative...



Whoosh...right over short little tosk's head. The shooter in Norway
describes himself as a Christian conservative, and the rest of the
terrorists I mentioned generally were also conservative Christians or
Muslims. There *is* something about modern conservatism that seems to
attract mass-murdering terrorists.

Wayne B July 23rd 11 02:02 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:38:36 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

There are more people killed in the US all the
time by liberal robbers, rapists, and murders... Most of the folks
pulling those crimes, are not Christian or Conservative...


===

Twisted minds come from all backgrounds.


Harryk July 23rd 11 02:29 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 7/23/11 9:02 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:38:36 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

There are more people killed in the US all the
time by liberal robbers, rapists, and murders... Most of the folks
pulling those crimes, are not Christian or Conservative...


===

Twisted minds come from all backgrounds.


True, but...all of the events I mentioned in my post were killings
perpetrated by self-described conservatives.

Florida Jim July 23rd 11 02:32 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 7/23/2011 9:29 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/23/11 9:02 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:38:36 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

There are more people killed in the US all the
time by liberal robbers, rapists, and murders... Most of the folks
pulling those crimes, are not Christian or Conservative...


===

Twisted minds come from all backgrounds.


True, but...all of the events I mentioned in my post were killings
perpetrated by self-described conservatives.


So why are you targeting Christians instead of presenting the whole truth?

Harryk July 23rd 11 02:42 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 7/23/11 9:32 AM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/23/2011 9:29 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/23/11 9:02 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:38:36 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

There are more people killed in the US all the
time by liberal robbers, rapists, and murders... Most of the folks
pulling those crimes, are not Christian or Conservative...

===

Twisted minds come from all backgrounds.


True, but...all of the events I mentioned in my post were killings
perpetrated by self-described conservatives.


So why are you targeting Christians instead of presenting the whole truth?



The terrorist events I mentioned were the work of conservatives, and
many of those were self-described christian conservatives. Ordinary
criminals usually don't describe themselves in terms of their religious
beliefs, if they have any. But the abortion doctor killers, the mass
murderer in Norway, et cetera, make a point of their christianity, just
like the muslim terrorists do.

The point is, there is something about conservativism and conservative
religious beliefs that leads some believers to commit terrorism.

But, hey, if you want to hide behind denial...it matters not.

Florida Jim July 23rd 11 02:48 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 7/23/2011 9:42 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/23/11 9:32 AM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/23/2011 9:29 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/23/11 9:02 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:38:36 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

There are more people killed in the US all the
time by liberal robbers, rapists, and murders... Most of the folks
pulling those crimes, are not Christian or Conservative...

===

Twisted minds come from all backgrounds.


True, but...all of the events I mentioned in my post were killings
perpetrated by self-described conservatives.


So why are you targeting Christians instead of presenting the whole
truth?



The terrorist events I mentioned were the work of conservatives, and
many of those were self-described christian conservatives. Ordinary
criminals usually don't describe themselves in terms of their
religious beliefs, if they have any. But the abortion doctor killers,
the mass murderer in Norway, et cetera, make a point of their
christianity, just like the muslim terrorists do.

The point is, there is something about conservativism and conservative
religious beliefs that leads some believers to commit terrorism.

But, hey, if you want to hide behind denial...it matters not.


The only valid points your posts make is what a sick **** you are. Have
a nice day.
Maybe you could post some pics. of your new boat. Everyone posts
pictures of their *new* boats. I'm surprised you haven't

jps July 23rd 11 05:51 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 09:42:12 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

On 7/23/11 9:32 AM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/23/2011 9:29 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/23/11 9:02 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:38:36 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

There are more people killed in the US all the
time by liberal robbers, rapists, and murders... Most of the folks
pulling those crimes, are not Christian or Conservative...

===

Twisted minds come from all backgrounds.


True, but...all of the events I mentioned in my post were killings
perpetrated by self-described conservatives.


So why are you targeting Christians instead of presenting the whole truth?



The terrorist events I mentioned were the work of conservatives, and
many of those were self-described christian conservatives. Ordinary
criminals usually don't describe themselves in terms of their religious
beliefs, if they have any. But the abortion doctor killers, the mass
murderer in Norway, et cetera, make a point of their christianity, just
like the muslim terrorists do.

The point is, there is something about conservativism and conservative
religious beliefs that leads some believers to commit terrorism.

But, hey, if you want to hide behind denial...it matters not.


They use their religious beliefs to justify their prejudice and
violence. This Norwegian is one sick ****.

[email protected] July 23rd 11 06:15 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 09:02:41 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:38:36 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

There are more people killed in the US all the
time by liberal robbers, rapists, and murders... Most of the folks
pulling those crimes, are not Christian or Conservative...


===

Twisted minds come from all backgrounds.


Yes, they do. However, you'll find that most of the people who own
guns and speak of violence, gov't overthrow and the like in this
country are on the far right. You don't get to many intellectuals (who
tend to be left of center) owning 10 guns and getting together to play
war games in nazi uniforms on the weekend.

I_am_Tosk July 23rd 11 06:23 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
In article f2f74b5d-6132-4d89-9943-cfb005287d08
@fv14g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says...

On Jul 23, 7:38*am, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article 8478ea4f-5e44-48f9-a8af-749c28b3d1e9
@h18g2000yqk.googlegroups.com, says...











On Jul 23, 5:24*am, Harryk wrote:
On 7/23/11 2:40 AM, jps wrote:


Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...


The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.


The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.


Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.


Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.


A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.


On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.


The majority of such terrorist attacks are perpetrated by political or
religious conservatives, whether they are blowing up camps in Norway,
Olympic games in Atlanta, abortion clinics and doctors anywhere, federal
office buildings in Oklahoma, the World Trade Center in New York.
There's something about "modern" conservatism that seems to attract
those who believe the terrorist approach is the only approach.


Yeah, I guess I'm guilty too. I assassinated 7 ground hogs this year
because I thought it was more my right to maintain my property that I
thought it was their right to dig it up. And oh my! *Just think of how
many mice I've poisoned. * But hey! I'm doing the Lords work, right?


It's a red herring Tim.. There are more people killed in the US all the
time by liberal robbers, rapists, and murders... Most of the folks
pulling those crimes, are not Christian or Conservative...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!


I know, but it's obviously fun for some to profile and stereo-type
people to evidenly support and satisfy their thoughts about a race,
religion or group of others.....


The modern democrat party is the most intolerant, racist, bigoted
organized group in the history of the United States... That's a fact.

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

LilAbner[_3_] July 24th 11 03:09 AM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.

I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.

[email protected] July 24th 11 06:39 AM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, LilAbner wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.

I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.


He was certainly a right wing extremist.

Heck.. I'm a fiscal conservative.

jps July 24th 11 09:19 AM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, LilAbner wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.



I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.



I don't think he's "conservative" either but he does share a common
bond with American "conservatives" who are anti-immigration,
anti-Muslim and consider themselves Christian.

Please explain this.

Harryk July 24th 11 12:54 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 7/24/11 4:19 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.



I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.



I don't think he's "conservative" either but he does share a common
bond with American "conservatives" who are anti-immigration,
anti-Muslim and consider themselves Christian.

Please explain this.


The meaning of the term "conservative" in this country has changed
drastically since the days of Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, and Reagan, and
even Goldwater, who was very conservative. Nowadays, it mostly describes
a political movement that has moved very far away from the middle to the
extreme right, and really has very little to do with "the Constitution,"
"the Republic," and "American values."

In addition to being anti-immigration and anti-Muslim, today's
conservative movement is not just anti-government spending, it is
anti-government. It also is anti-woman, anti-child, anti-middle class,
and is all about exclusionary politics and corporatism.

And while many of today's über-conservatives in this country may call
themselves christians, or hide behind the umbrella of christianity, it
is obvious they are *not* followers of the teachings of Jesus but are
only CINOs...christians in name only.

Florida Jim July 24th 11 01:17 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 7/24/2011 7:54 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/24/11 4:19 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.



I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.



I don't think he's "conservative" either but he does share a common
bond with American "conservatives" who are anti-immigration,
anti-Muslim and consider themselves Christian.

Please explain this.


The meaning of the term "conservative" in this country has changed
drastically since the days of Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, and Reagan, and
even Goldwater, who was very conservative. Nowadays, it mostly
describes a political movement that has moved very far away from the
middle to the extreme right, and really has very little to do with
"the Constitution," "the Republic," and "American values."

In addition to being anti-immigration and anti-Muslim, today's
conservative movement is not just anti-government spending, it is
anti-government. It also is anti-woman, anti-child, anti-middle class,
and is all about exclusionary politics and corporatism.

And while many of today's über-conservatives in this country may call
themselves christians, or hide behind the umbrella of christianity, it
is obvious they are *not* followers of the teachings of Jesus but are
only CINOs...christians in name only.


So long as you dump people into one camp or the other with your silly
perceptions, you are promoting friction amongst us. But that's what you
feed on, isn't it? WAFA.

John H[_2_] July 24th 11 02:34 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, LilAbner wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.

I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.


Well said. The liberal media just love to throw around the 'conservative' label at any problem child
that surfaces.

Harryk July 24th 11 02:40 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 7/24/11 9:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.

I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.


Well said. The liberal media just love to throw around the 'conservative' label at any problem child
that surfaces.



The Norwegian shooter has identified himself as a "conservative."
You conservatives sure seem to have a lot of terrorists in your ranks.
Why is that?

Florida Jim July 24th 11 02:54 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 7/24/2011 9:40 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/24/11 9:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.
I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.


Well said. The liberal media just love to throw around the
'conservative' label at any problem child
that surfaces.



The Norwegian shooter has identified himself as a "conservative."
You conservatives sure seem to have a lot of terrorists in your ranks.
Why is that?


Why don't you so a survey? Idiot.

Harryk July 24th 11 03:01 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 7/24/11 9:54 AM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/24/2011 9:40 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/24/11 9:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.
I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.

Well said. The liberal media just love to throw around the
'conservative' label at any problem child
that surfaces.



The Norwegian shooter has identified himself as a "conservative."
You conservatives sure seem to have a lot of terrorists in your ranks.
Why is that?


Why don't you so a survey? Idiot.



I wonder if I could get NIMH to fund it...



Canuck57[_9_] July 24th 11 05:25 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 24/07/2011 2:19 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.



I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.



I don't think he's "conservative" either but he does share a common
bond with American "conservatives" who are anti-immigration,
anti-Muslim and consider themselves Christian.

Please explain this.


I have lived in Norway in the early 80's. You couldn't drag me back
there. Great place to visit, crappy place to live. So socialist you
might as well just accept being a sheep in a barn. For some that could
be hard to accept.

I could see a non-Muslim/non-Islam anti-government group starting up
there. I could also see the Islamic fanatics doing it too. But Islam
tends to be more group-conspiracy based thus easier to stop.

Isn't to say I support them, I do not. Violence like this is
intolerable. Simple answer for such individuals seeking more freedom is
to emigrate from the socialist tax me silly nations. Let the socialist
pay the socialist bills. Or perhaps I am more passive and non-violent
about it.

--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

Harryk July 24th 11 05:39 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 7/24/11 9:40 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/24/11 9:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.
I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.


Well said. The liberal media just love to throw around the
'conservative' label at any problem child
that surfaces.



The Norwegian shooter has identified himself as a "conservative."
You conservatives sure seem to have a lot of terrorists in your ranks.
Why is that?


It is not just conservatives who are terrorist, but Christians seem to
have more than their fair share of terrorist. Here is a tiny list of
acts of terrorism conducted by Christians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christi...United_Kingdom

Anyone who believes Christianity is a religion of peace, need to study
their history. Christians have killed billions of people in the name of
Christ.

Canuck57[_9_] July 24th 11 05:39 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 24/07/2011 5:54 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/24/11 4:19 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.



I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.



I don't think he's "conservative" either but he does share a common
bond with American "conservatives" who are anti-immigration,
anti-Muslim and consider themselves Christian.

Please explain this.


The meaning of the term "conservative" in this country has changed
drastically since the days of Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, and Reagan, and
even Goldwater, who was very conservative. Nowadays, it mostly describes
a political movement that has moved very far away from the middle to the
extreme right, and really has very little to do with "the Constitution,"
"the Republic," and "American values."

In addition to being anti-immigration and anti-Muslim, today's
conservative movement is not just anti-government spending, it is
anti-government. It also is anti-woman, anti-child, anti-middle class,
and is all about exclusionary politics and corporatism.

And while many of today's über-conservatives in this country may call
themselves christians, or hide behind the umbrella of christianity, it
is obvious they are *not* followers of the teachings of Jesus but are
only CINOs...christians in name only.


People think two dimensionally. Really there are more dimensions. At
least the following:

Liberal-to the left.
Conservative to the right.
Statism to the front (big fat government)
Libertarian (less basic government)

Could even add in communism, anarchy, Islam, Nazi as extreme views of
the same. Islam for example, pure statism, nether liberal or
conservative. Just marriage of family and government as one controlled
by egalitarians. An extreme situation for sure.

Try the quiz, and run it multiple times. Once for yourself and once for
how government actually behaves. Many might find themselves amazed at
the differences.

For example, censorship. Government does do it by undue influence to
the media people. They withhold (censor) lots from the people. So
Maybe or Agree is the government position. Government would love the
draft. Answer away and see where you sand.

Government comes in statist. Unlikely most people are there preferring
some personal freedoms or financial liberty.

Me, I score conservative-libertarian.
--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

Canuck57[_9_] July 24th 11 05:40 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 24/07/2011 10:39 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 24/07/2011 5:54 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/24/11 4:19 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.


I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.


I don't think he's "conservative" either but he does share a common
bond with American "conservatives" who are anti-immigration,
anti-Muslim and consider themselves Christian.

Please explain this.


The meaning of the term "conservative" in this country has changed
drastically since the days of Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, and Reagan, and
even Goldwater, who was very conservative. Nowadays, it mostly describes
a political movement that has moved very far away from the middle to the
extreme right, and really has very little to do with "the Constitution,"
"the Republic," and "American values."

In addition to being anti-immigration and anti-Muslim, today's
conservative movement is not just anti-government spending, it is
anti-government. It also is anti-woman, anti-child, anti-middle class,
and is all about exclusionary politics and corporatism.

And while many of today's über-conservatives in this country may call
themselves christians, or hide behind the umbrella of christianity, it
is obvious they are *not* followers of the teachings of Jesus but are
only CINOs...christians in name only.


People think two dimensionally. Really there are more dimensions. At
least the following:

Liberal-to the left.
Conservative to the right.
Statism to the front (big fat government)
Libertarian (less basic government)

Could even add in communism, anarchy, Islam, Nazi as extreme views of
the same. Islam for example, pure statism, nether liberal or
conservative. Just marriage of family and government as one controlled
by egalitarians. An extreme situation for sure.

Try the quiz, and run it multiple times. Once for yourself and once for
how government actually behaves. Many might find themselves amazed at
the differences.

For example, censorship. Government does do it by undue influence to the
media people. They withhold (censor) lots from the people. So Maybe or
Agree is the government position. Government would love the draft.
Answer away and see where you sand.

Government comes in statist. Unlikely most people are there preferring
some personal freedoms or financial liberty.

Me, I score conservative-libertarian.


Guess it helps if I post the link....

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz
--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

[email protected] July 24th 11 05:42 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:25:32 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 24/07/2011 2:19 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.



I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.



I don't think he's "conservative" either but he does share a common
bond with American "conservatives" who are anti-immigration,
anti-Muslim and consider themselves Christian.

Please explain this.


I have lived in Norway in the early 80's. You couldn't drag me back
there. Great place to visit, crappy place to live. So socialist you
might as well just accept being a sheep in a barn. For some that could
be hard to accept.

I could see a non-Muslim/non-Islam anti-government group starting up
there. I could also see the Islamic fanatics doing it too. But Islam
tends to be more group-conspiracy based thus easier to stop.

Isn't to say I support them, I do not. Violence like this is
intolerable. Simple answer for such individuals seeking more freedom is
to emigrate from the socialist tax me silly nations. Let the socialist
pay the socialist bills. Or perhaps I am more passive and non-violent
about it.


Oh give us a break. You haven't left your single-wide since you were
born... except for a beer run maybe.

[email protected] July 24th 11 05:43 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 09:40:03 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

On 7/24/11 9:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.
I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.


Well said. The liberal media just love to throw around the 'conservative' label at any problem child
that surfaces.



The Norwegian shooter has identified himself as a "conservative."
You conservatives sure seem to have a lot of terrorists in your ranks.
Why is that?


Because Obama is evil.

Florida Jim July 24th 11 05:58 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 7/24/2011 12:43 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 09:40:03 -0400,
wrote:

On 7/24/11 9:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:
Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.
I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.
Well said. The liberal media just love to throw around the 'conservative' label at any problem child
that surfaces.


The Norwegian shooter has identified himself as a "conservative."
You conservatives sure seem to have a lot of terrorists in your ranks.
Why is that?

Because Obama is evil.

It goes without saying

Harryk July 24th 11 06:04 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 7/24/11 12:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 24/07/2011 2:19 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.



I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.



I don't think he's "conservative" either but he does share a common
bond with American "conservatives" who are anti-immigration,
anti-Muslim and consider themselves Christian.

Please explain this.


I have lived in Norway in the early 80's. You couldn't drag me back
there. Great place to visit, crappy place to live. So socialist you
might as well just accept being a sheep in a barn. For some that could
be hard to accept.

I could see a non-Muslim/non-Islam anti-government group starting up
there. I could also see the Islamic fanatics doing it too. But Islam
tends to be more group-conspiracy based thus easier to stop.

Isn't to say I support them, I do not. Violence like this is
intolerable. Simple answer for such individuals seeking more freedom is
to emigrate from the socialist tax me silly nations. Let the socialist
pay the socialist bills. Or perhaps I am more passive and non-violent
about it.



D'oh. I've been to Norway, too, and I have friends -Norwegians- who live
there. It's a terrific place to live, with the highest standard of
living in the world and the coveted last place in the Failed States
Index of Foreign Policy Magazine. In other words, it is the most
well-functioning and stable country in the world.

Norway uses its assets to enrich the lives of all its people.




Harryk July 24th 11 06:52 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 7/24/11 1:42 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 24/07/2011 11:04 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/24/11 12:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 24/07/2011 2:19 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp
shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to
write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person
with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative
views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.


I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.


I don't think he's "conservative" either but he does share a common
bond with American "conservatives" who are anti-immigration,
anti-Muslim and consider themselves Christian.

Please explain this.

I have lived in Norway in the early 80's. You couldn't drag me back
there. Great place to visit, crappy place to live. So socialist you
might as well just accept being a sheep in a barn. For some that could
be hard to accept.

I could see a non-Muslim/non-Islam anti-government group starting up
there. I could also see the Islamic fanatics doing it too. But Islam
tends to be more group-conspiracy based thus easier to stop.

Isn't to say I support them, I do not. Violence like this is
intolerable. Simple answer for such individuals seeking more freedom is
to emigrate from the socialist tax me silly nations. Let the socialist
pay the socialist bills. Or perhaps I am more passive and non-violent
about it.



D'oh. I've been to Norway, too, and I have friends -Norwegians- who live
there. It's a terrific place to live, with the highest standard of
living in the world and the coveted last place in the Failed States
Index of Foreign Policy Magazine. In other words, it is the most
well-functioning and stable country in the world.

Norway uses its assets to enrich the lives of all its people.


Just more harryk bull****.



My comments are accurate; yours are based upon your lack of education,
ignorance and prejudice.

Canuck57[_9_] July 24th 11 07:32 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 24/07/2011 11:13 AM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/24/2011 1:04 PM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/24/11 12:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 24/07/2011 2:19 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp
shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to
write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person
with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative
views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.


I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.


I don't think he's "conservative" either but he does share a common
bond with American "conservatives" who are anti-immigration,
anti-Muslim and consider themselves Christian.

Please explain this.

I have lived in Norway in the early 80's. You couldn't drag me back
there. Great place to visit, crappy place to live. So socialist you
might as well just accept being a sheep in a barn. For some that could
be hard to accept.

I could see a non-Muslim/non-Islam anti-government group starting up
there. I could also see the Islamic fanatics doing it too. But Islam
tends to be more group-conspiracy based thus easier to stop.

Isn't to say I support them, I do not. Violence like this is
intolerable. Simple answer for such individuals seeking more freedom is
to emigrate from the socialist tax me silly nations. Let the socialist
pay the socialist bills. Or perhaps I am more passive and non-violent
about it.



D'oh. I've been to Norway, too, and I have friends -Norwegians- who
live there. It's a terrific place to live, with the highest standard
of living in the world and the coveted last place in the Failed States
Index of Foreign Policy Magazine. In other words, it is the most
well-functioning and stable country in the world.

Norway uses its assets to enrich the lives of all its people.



Except the assets belong to the people. Go there if you like socialism
so much..


He should, I didn't just visit, I lived there. Very economically
repressive place.


--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

Harryk July 24th 11 08:21 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 7/24/11 2:32 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 24/07/2011 11:13 AM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/24/2011 1:04 PM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/24/11 12:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 24/07/2011 2:19 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring
Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives
at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp
shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing
circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to
write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person
with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests."
The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have
attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative
views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.


I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by
association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic
and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.


I don't think he's "conservative" either but he does share a common
bond with American "conservatives" who are anti-immigration,
anti-Muslim and consider themselves Christian.

Please explain this.

I have lived in Norway in the early 80's. You couldn't drag me back
there. Great place to visit, crappy place to live. So socialist you
might as well just accept being a sheep in a barn. For some that could
be hard to accept.

I could see a non-Muslim/non-Islam anti-government group starting up
there. I could also see the Islamic fanatics doing it too. But Islam
tends to be more group-conspiracy based thus easier to stop.

Isn't to say I support them, I do not. Violence like this is
intolerable. Simple answer for such individuals seeking more freedom is
to emigrate from the socialist tax me silly nations. Let the socialist
pay the socialist bills. Or perhaps I am more passive and non-violent
about it.



D'oh. I've been to Norway, too, and I have friends -Norwegians- who
live there. It's a terrific place to live, with the highest standard
of living in the world and the coveted last place in the Failed States
Index of Foreign Policy Magazine. In other words, it is the most
well-functioning and stable country in the world.

Norway uses its assets to enrich the lives of all its people.



Except the assets belong to the people. Go there if you like socialism
so much..


He should, I didn't just visit, I lived there. Very economically
repressive place.




Economically repressive? With a much higher standard of living than most
other countries? Virtually no homeless? Access to good medical care for
everyone? Low or no cost higher education for most students? Retraining
for workers injured out of or pushed out of jobs? Good housing for everyone?

Yeah, that's repressive.

[email protected] July 24th 11 11:33 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:40:48 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 24/07/2011 10:39 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 24/07/2011 5:54 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/24/11 4:19 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.


I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.


I don't think he's "conservative" either but he does share a common
bond with American "conservatives" who are anti-immigration,
anti-Muslim and consider themselves Christian.

Please explain this.

The meaning of the term "conservative" in this country has changed
drastically since the days of Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, and Reagan, and
even Goldwater, who was very conservative. Nowadays, it mostly describes
a political movement that has moved very far away from the middle to the
extreme right, and really has very little to do with "the Constitution,"
"the Republic," and "American values."

In addition to being anti-immigration and anti-Muslim, today's
conservative movement is not just anti-government spending, it is
anti-government. It also is anti-woman, anti-child, anti-middle class,
and is all about exclusionary politics and corporatism.

And while many of today's über-conservatives in this country may call
themselves christians, or hide behind the umbrella of christianity, it
is obvious they are *not* followers of the teachings of Jesus but are
only CINOs...christians in name only.


People think two dimensionally. Really there are more dimensions. At
least the following:

Liberal-to the left.
Conservative to the right.
Statism to the front (big fat government)
Libertarian (less basic government)

Could even add in communism, anarchy, Islam, Nazi as extreme views of
the same. Islam for example, pure statism, nether liberal or
conservative. Just marriage of family and government as one controlled
by egalitarians. An extreme situation for sure.

Try the quiz, and run it multiple times. Once for yourself and once for
how government actually behaves. Many might find themselves amazed at
the differences.

For example, censorship. Government does do it by undue influence to the
media people. They withhold (censor) lots from the people. So Maybe or
Agree is the government position. Government would love the draft.
Answer away and see where you sand.

Government comes in statist. Unlikely most people are there preferring
some personal freedoms or financial liberty.

Me, I score conservative-libertarian.


Guess it helps if I post the link....

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz


Centrist... just to the left of center.

[email protected] July 24th 11 11:34 PM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:32:14 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 24/07/2011 11:13 AM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/24/2011 1:04 PM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/24/11 12:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 24/07/2011 2:19 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp
shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to
write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person
with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative
views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.


I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.


I don't think he's "conservative" either but he does share a common
bond with American "conservatives" who are anti-immigration,
anti-Muslim and consider themselves Christian.

Please explain this.

I have lived in Norway in the early 80's. You couldn't drag me back
there. Great place to visit, crappy place to live. So socialist you
might as well just accept being a sheep in a barn. For some that could
be hard to accept.

I could see a non-Muslim/non-Islam anti-government group starting up
there. I could also see the Islamic fanatics doing it too. But Islam
tends to be more group-conspiracy based thus easier to stop.

Isn't to say I support them, I do not. Violence like this is
intolerable. Simple answer for such individuals seeking more freedom is
to emigrate from the socialist tax me silly nations. Let the socialist
pay the socialist bills. Or perhaps I am more passive and non-violent
about it.



D'oh. I've been to Norway, too, and I have friends -Norwegians- who
live there. It's a terrific place to live, with the highest standard
of living in the world and the coveted last place in the Failed States
Index of Foreign Policy Magazine. In other words, it is the most
well-functioning and stable country in the world.

Norway uses its assets to enrich the lives of all its people.



Except the assets belong to the people. Go there if you like socialism
so much..


He should, I didn't just visit, I lived there. Very economically
repressive place.


You're mentally repressed.

TopBassDog July 25th 11 12:59 AM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On Jul 23, 5:24*am, Harryk wrote:
On 7/23/11 2:40 AM, jps wrote:











Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...


The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.


The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.


Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.


Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.


A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.


On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.


The majority of such terrorist attacks are perpetrated by political or
religious conservatives, whether they are blowing up camps in Norway,
Olympic games in Atlanta, abortion clinics and doctors anywhere, federal
office buildings in Oklahoma, the World Trade Center in New York.
There's something about "modern" conservatism that seems to attract
those who believe the terrorist approach is the only approach.


Truly you klutz's can't figure life out. The press dictates what they
want you to hear. This article neither mentions "Christian,"
"Religious" nor "Conservative"

http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1254910.html

Excellent work of hearing only what you want and blaming only who you
wish.

Harryk July 25th 11 01:56 AM

Christian Conservatives in Norway?
 
On 7/24/11 7:59 PM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Jul 23, 5:24 am, wrote:
On 7/23/11 2:40 AM, jps wrote:











Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...


The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.


The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.


Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.


Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.


A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.


On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.


The majority of such terrorist attacks are perpetrated by political or
religious conservatives, whether they are blowing up camps in Norway,
Olympic games in Atlanta, abortion clinics and doctors anywhere, federal
office buildings in Oklahoma, the World Trade Center in New York.
There's something about "modern" conservatism that seems to attract
those who believe the terrorist approach is the only approach.


Truly you klutz's can't figure life out. The press dictates what they
want you to hear. This article neither mentions "Christian,"
"Religious" nor "Conservative"

http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1254910.html

Excellent work of hearing only what you want and blaming only who you
wish.


Christians have killed more people in the name of Christ than all other
religions combined. Christianity is the religion of bigotry and hate.


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