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On 7/20/2011 1:55 PM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/20/11 1:44 PM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 06:32:14 -0400, wrote: On 7/19/11 11:16 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:31:20 -0400, wrote: I wonder what parts of the operating system the Best Buy boys will remove, and how well the computer will run without them? Are they talking about Microsoft's infamous "upgrade to a more familiar version" (AKA removing Vista and installing XP). My wife had her vendor do that with all the new machines in her office that came with Vista. BTW Microsoft may not be enforcing that "you can't swap machines without calling us" thing on XP pro anymore. I just installed my retail XP pro that was on a machine that died into another one and expected I would have to call the 800 number, for the 3d degree before they would authenticate it (like the olden days) but it sailed right through the online okey dokey, passed the microsoft "legal OS" test and let me download the new media player. My wife's new desktop computer came with Win 7 and had a small amount of non-Microsoft Windows "crapware" on it, which I was able to remove without incident. There are a handful of varieties of Win 7, and you can upgrade from one to another by paying a fee, but I didn't see anything that let you downgrade from Win 7 to XP. The downgrade was just for unhappy Vista users. One thing I learned from the smartest guys in the mainframe business is to stay one generation behind the latest hardware and software. Let some other pioneer take all the arrows and pay all of that "new smell" cost. I am just starting to get rid of my last W98 apps but I am sure I will still have a few 98 machines around. I still use DOS for my MP3 players. Everything else is XP pro. I did find a guy in Ebay selling 1gz WYSE XP thin clients for $20 a pop so I may be moving my servers to them.They only use 20-30 watts. I am using an old lap top for my weather station and my TV machine is a 2.4 gz Compaq desktop. That is now going to have to run 24/7 now because Replay TV is dropping support on their DVR so I need to replace that with a local WiRNS server. I just upgraded my two mac machines to OS X Lion. The upgrade was $29 and change, total, for my two machines. Would have been the same for five machines. Or maybe more machines. Anyway, I started the upgrade and was "asked" one or two questions and it took over. I went to a meeting for about an hour and a half and when I got back, the upgrades were both installed. I was always nervous about windoze upgrades because sometimes they would die halfway through, or present some impossibly arcane error message. I'm on the new OS now. There supposedly are "250 new features," but I haven't looked at the list and there's no real cheat sheet that shows how to use them...not yet. I'm trying to resolve a Win 7 problem for my wife. When she VPNs in from home to her server downtown, she can't print locally...whatever she wants to print prints on one of her office printers but not on her home laserprinter. I'm hoping it is only a minor headache to set up... :) Keep us informed, And promise you won't peek at her patient files. |
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On 7/20/11 1:55 PM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/20/11 1:44 PM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 06:32:14 -0400, wrote: On 7/19/11 11:16 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:31:20 -0400, wrote: I wonder what parts of the operating system the Best Buy boys will remove, and how well the computer will run without them? Are they talking about Microsoft's infamous "upgrade to a more familiar version" (AKA removing Vista and installing XP). My wife had her vendor do that with all the new machines in her office that came with Vista. BTW Microsoft may not be enforcing that "you can't swap machines without calling us" thing on XP pro anymore. I just installed my retail XP pro that was on a machine that died into another one and expected I would have to call the 800 number, for the 3d degree before they would authenticate it (like the olden days) but it sailed right through the online okey dokey, passed the microsoft "legal OS" test and let me download the new media player. My wife's new desktop computer came with Win 7 and had a small amount of non-Microsoft Windows "crapware" on it, which I was able to remove without incident. There are a handful of varieties of Win 7, and you can upgrade from one to another by paying a fee, but I didn't see anything that let you downgrade from Win 7 to XP. The downgrade was just for unhappy Vista users. One thing I learned from the smartest guys in the mainframe business is to stay one generation behind the latest hardware and software. Let some other pioneer take all the arrows and pay all of that "new smell" cost. I am just starting to get rid of my last W98 apps but I am sure I will still have a few 98 machines around. I still use DOS for my MP3 players. Everything else is XP pro. I did find a guy in Ebay selling 1gz WYSE XP thin clients for $20 a pop so I may be moving my servers to them.They only use 20-30 watts. I am using an old lap top for my weather station and my TV machine is a 2.4 gz Compaq desktop. That is now going to have to run 24/7 now because Replay TV is dropping support on their DVR so I need to replace that with a local WiRNS server. I just upgraded my two mac machines to OS X Lion. The upgrade was $29 and change, total, for my two machines. Would have been the same for five machines. Or maybe more machines. Anyway, I started the upgrade and was "asked" one or two questions and it took over. I went to a meeting for about an hour and a half and when I got back, the upgrades were both installed. I was always nervous about windoze upgrades because sometimes they would die halfway through, or present some impossibly arcane error message. I'm on the new OS now. There supposedly are "250 new features," but I haven't looked at the list and there's no real cheat sheet that shows how to use them...not yet. I'm trying to resolve a Win 7 problem for my wife. When she VPNs in from home to her server downtown, she can't print locally...whatever she wants to print prints on one of her office printers but not on her home laserprinter. I'm hoping it is only a minor headache to set up... :) PS - Things have really changed since I purchased my Macs. When I had Windoze I never had any problems, and was always pleased with my computers. Since I left Windoze and purchased my Macs, Windoze service has completely fallen apart. |
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On 20/07/2011 11:55 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/20/11 1:44 PM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 06:32:14 -0400, wrote: On 7/19/11 11:16 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:31:20 -0400, wrote: I wonder what parts of the operating system the Best Buy boys will remove, and how well the computer will run without them? Are they talking about Microsoft's infamous "upgrade to a more familiar version" (AKA removing Vista and installing XP). My wife had her vendor do that with all the new machines in her office that came with Vista. BTW Microsoft may not be enforcing that "you can't swap machines without calling us" thing on XP pro anymore. I just installed my retail XP pro that was on a machine that died into another one and expected I would have to call the 800 number, for the 3d degree before they would authenticate it (like the olden days) but it sailed right through the online okey dokey, passed the microsoft "legal OS" test and let me download the new media player. My wife's new desktop computer came with Win 7 and had a small amount of non-Microsoft Windows "crapware" on it, which I was able to remove without incident. There are a handful of varieties of Win 7, and you can upgrade from one to another by paying a fee, but I didn't see anything that let you downgrade from Win 7 to XP. The downgrade was just for unhappy Vista users. One thing I learned from the smartest guys in the mainframe business is to stay one generation behind the latest hardware and software. Let some other pioneer take all the arrows and pay all of that "new smell" cost. I am just starting to get rid of my last W98 apps but I am sure I will still have a few 98 machines around. I still use DOS for my MP3 players. Everything else is XP pro. I did find a guy in Ebay selling 1gz WYSE XP thin clients for $20 a pop so I may be moving my servers to them.They only use 20-30 watts. I am using an old lap top for my weather station and my TV machine is a 2.4 gz Compaq desktop. That is now going to have to run 24/7 now because Replay TV is dropping support on their DVR so I need to replace that with a local WiRNS server. I just upgraded my two mac machines to OS X Lion. The upgrade was $29 and change, total, for my two machines. Would have been the same for five machines. Or maybe more machines. Anyway, I started the upgrade and was "asked" one or two questions and it took over. I went to a meeting for about an hour and a half and when I got back, the upgrades were both installed. I was always nervous about windoze upgrades because sometimes they would die halfway through, or present some impossibly arcane error message. I'm on the new OS now. There supposedly are "250 new features," but I haven't looked at the list and there's no real cheat sheet that shows how to use them...not yet. I'm trying to resolve a Win 7 problem for my wife. When she VPNs in from home to her server downtown, she can't print locally...whatever she wants to print prints on one of her office printers but not on her home laserprinter. I'm hoping it is only a minor headache to set up... :) Using your wife's machine to spoof? While Macs are ok machines and a great OS, they are far over priced big time. I can, and do buy 3 or 4 machines for the price of one Mac. So if one is stolen, well, I have backups. And Win 7 while a marginal OS for security, I keep the sensitive stuff encrypted inside a virtual machine using an OS with security built in. She can't print locally because the work doesn't want her printing work materials at home. It is intentional. So your wife supports you at her age? You are a loser. -- What government fears the most is that the people correctly learn that they need government less than the government needs them. Say no more debt, no more debt-slave taxes. Economic freedom matters too! |
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On 20/07/2011 12:05 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:51:24 -0400, John wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 23:16:51 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:31:20 -0400, wrote: No, I was talking about all the ad **** that comes pre-loaded on new machines. Tim had made a typo, which got me on a different track. Both machines I'm looking at come with Windows 7 - not that piece of crap Vista. I haven't bought a preloaded machine since 1995. I know they do come with a load of crap. My wife spent an hour cleaning up her dad's new laptop. I don't know why they make a brand new machine slower than it has to be. Sort of a devious way of advertising really. Load in a "trial" version of some crap you don't want or need. Hook and bait. -- What government fears the most is that the people correctly learn that they need government less than the government needs them. Say no more debt, no more debt-slave taxes. Economic freedom matters too! |
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On 20/07/2011 12:10 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:59:10 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 23:16:51 -0400, wrote: BTW Microsoft may not be enforcing that "you can't swap machines without calling us" thing on XP pro anymore. I just installed my retail XP pro that was on a machine that died into another one and expected I would have to call the 800 number, for the 3d degree before they would authenticate it (like the olden days) but it sailed right through the online okey dokey, passed the microsoft "legal OS" test and let me download the new media player. I think MS came to their senses and is only screening for blatant abuses such as many different machines on the same license key. The vast majority of people calling the 800 number had legitimate issues. There are so many licensed copies of XP pro floating around, I doubt it is an issue. Off lease machines are all over the internet real cheap and companies are just throwing them away. I have a Dell CD that seems to load XP without even asking for the 25 digit code. It could be getting the code from the firmware. In which case you will not see it ask. However, if you took it to a PC that didn't ahve the embedded codes, it would prompt or not work at all. Many included recovery disks work this way and for some, this includes the making of recovery CDs. That is, the recovery CDs are keyed to the mobo. Not good really. -- What government fears the most is that the people correctly learn that they need government less than the government needs them. Say no more debt, no more debt-slave taxes. Economic freedom matters too! |
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On 7/20/11 2:56 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 20/07/2011 11:55 AM, Harryk wrote: On 7/20/11 1:44 PM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 06:32:14 -0400, wrote: On 7/19/11 11:16 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:31:20 -0400, wrote: I wonder what parts of the operating system the Best Buy boys will remove, and how well the computer will run without them? Are they talking about Microsoft's infamous "upgrade to a more familiar version" (AKA removing Vista and installing XP). My wife had her vendor do that with all the new machines in her office that came with Vista. BTW Microsoft may not be enforcing that "you can't swap machines without calling us" thing on XP pro anymore. I just installed my retail XP pro that was on a machine that died into another one and expected I would have to call the 800 number, for the 3d degree before they would authenticate it (like the olden days) but it sailed right through the online okey dokey, passed the microsoft "legal OS" test and let me download the new media player. My wife's new desktop computer came with Win 7 and had a small amount of non-Microsoft Windows "crapware" on it, which I was able to remove without incident. There are a handful of varieties of Win 7, and you can upgrade from one to another by paying a fee, but I didn't see anything that let you downgrade from Win 7 to XP. The downgrade was just for unhappy Vista users. One thing I learned from the smartest guys in the mainframe business is to stay one generation behind the latest hardware and software. Let some other pioneer take all the arrows and pay all of that "new smell" cost. I am just starting to get rid of my last W98 apps but I am sure I will still have a few 98 machines around. I still use DOS for my MP3 players. Everything else is XP pro. I did find a guy in Ebay selling 1gz WYSE XP thin clients for $20 a pop so I may be moving my servers to them.They only use 20-30 watts. I am using an old lap top for my weather station and my TV machine is a 2.4 gz Compaq desktop. That is now going to have to run 24/7 now because Replay TV is dropping support on their DVR so I need to replace that with a local WiRNS server. I just upgraded my two mac machines to OS X Lion. The upgrade was $29 and change, total, for my two machines. Would have been the same for five machines. Or maybe more machines. Anyway, I started the upgrade and was "asked" one or two questions and it took over. I went to a meeting for about an hour and a half and when I got back, the upgrades were both installed. I was always nervous about windoze upgrades because sometimes they would die halfway through, or present some impossibly arcane error message. I'm on the new OS now. There supposedly are "250 new features," but I haven't looked at the list and there's no real cheat sheet that shows how to use them...not yet. I'm trying to resolve a Win 7 problem for my wife. When she VPNs in from home to her server downtown, she can't print locally...whatever she wants to print prints on one of her office printers but not on her home laserprinter. I'm hoping it is only a minor headache to set up... :) Using your wife's machine to spoof? While Macs are ok machines and a great OS, they are far over priced big time. I can, and do buy 3 or 4 machines for the price of one Mac. So if one is stolen, well, I have backups. And Win 7 while a marginal OS for security, I keep the sensitive stuff encrypted inside a virtual machine using an OS with security built in. She can't print locally because the work doesn't want her printing work materials at home. It is intentional. So your wife supports you at her age? You are a loser. 1. I don't use my wife's computers for anything. I do help her set up new software or help her resolve problems with the equipment. 2. I have the money to buy whatever computer I want. If one of my machines is stolen, I call my insurance agent and he gets his company to send me a check. 3. You're wrong about printing work materials at home. One of the guys at her work IT department will talk me through the proper setup. 4. My wife doesn't support me. My earnings are almost twice hers. They used to be three times hers, but I have cut back. Four strikes and you are more than out, moron. |
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@mypacks.net says... On 7/20/11 2:56 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 20/07/2011 11:55 AM, Harryk wrote: On 7/20/11 1:44 PM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 06:32:14 -0400, wrote: On 7/19/11 11:16 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:31:20 -0400, wrote: I wonder what parts of the operating system the Best Buy boys will remove, and how well the computer will run without them? Are they talking about Microsoft's infamous "upgrade to a more familiar version" (AKA removing Vista and installing XP). My wife had her vendor do that with all the new machines in her office that came with Vista. BTW Microsoft may not be enforcing that "you can't swap machines without calling us" thing on XP pro anymore. I just installed my retail XP pro that was on a machine that died into another one and expected I would have to call the 800 number, for the 3d degree before they would authenticate it (like the olden days) but it sailed right through the online okey dokey, passed the microsoft "legal OS" test and let me download the new media player. My wife's new desktop computer came with Win 7 and had a small amount of non-Microsoft Windows "crapware" on it, which I was able to remove without incident. There are a handful of varieties of Win 7, and you can upgrade from one to another by paying a fee, but I didn't see anything that let you downgrade from Win 7 to XP. The downgrade was just for unhappy Vista users. One thing I learned from the smartest guys in the mainframe business is to stay one generation behind the latest hardware and software. Let some other pioneer take all the arrows and pay all of that "new smell" cost. I am just starting to get rid of my last W98 apps but I am sure I will still have a few 98 machines around. I still use DOS for my MP3 players. Everything else is XP pro. I did find a guy in Ebay selling 1gz WYSE XP thin clients for $20 a pop so I may be moving my servers to them.They only use 20-30 watts. I am using an old lap top for my weather station and my TV machine is a 2.4 gz Compaq desktop. That is now going to have to run 24/7 now because Replay TV is dropping support on their DVR so I need to replace that with a local WiRNS server. I just upgraded my two mac machines to OS X Lion. The upgrade was $29 and change, total, for my two machines. Would have been the same for five machines. Or maybe more machines. Anyway, I started the upgrade and was "asked" one or two questions and it took over. I went to a meeting for about an hour and a half and when I got back, the upgrades were both installed. I was always nervous about windoze upgrades because sometimes they would die halfway through, or present some impossibly arcane error message. I'm on the new OS now. There supposedly are "250 new features," but I haven't looked at the list and there's no real cheat sheet that shows how to use them...not yet. I'm trying to resolve a Win 7 problem for my wife. When she VPNs in from home to her server downtown, she can't print locally...whatever she wants to print prints on one of her office printers but not on her home laserprinter. I'm hoping it is only a minor headache to set up... :) Using your wife's machine to spoof? While Macs are ok machines and a great OS, they are far over priced big time. I can, and do buy 3 or 4 machines for the price of one Mac. So if one is stolen, well, I have backups. And Win 7 while a marginal OS for security, I keep the sensitive stuff encrypted inside a virtual machine using an OS with security built in. She can't print locally because the work doesn't want her printing work materials at home. It is intentional. So your wife supports you at her age? You are a loser. 1. I don't use my wife's computers for anything. I do help her set up new software or help her resolve problems with the equipment. Spoofer, below you said she had an IT guy..... 2. I have the money to buy whatever computer I want. If one of my machines is stolen, I call my insurance agent and he gets his company to send me a check. So, Spoofer, you live in an area, or frequent areas where you get your computers stolen a lot? You must look like a very easy target.... 3. You're wrong about printing work materials at home. One of the guys at her work IT department will talk me through the proper setup. So Spoofer, I, the real Harry know all about computers and have bragged right here about how much I know, so why would I need an IT guy to fix a simple problem like that? 4. My wife doesn't support me. My earnings are almost twice hers. They used to be three times hers, but I have cut back. Hey Spoofer, my wife has three doctorate degrees, and is working on her fourth. I've claimed that right here. I only have a degree from Kansas. |
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On 20/07/2011 1:13 PM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/20/11 2:56 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 20/07/2011 11:55 AM, Harryk wrote: On 7/20/11 1:44 PM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 06:32:14 -0400, wrote: On 7/19/11 11:16 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:31:20 -0400, wrote: I wonder what parts of the operating system the Best Buy boys will remove, and how well the computer will run without them? Are they talking about Microsoft's infamous "upgrade to a more familiar version" (AKA removing Vista and installing XP). My wife had her vendor do that with all the new machines in her office that came with Vista. BTW Microsoft may not be enforcing that "you can't swap machines without calling us" thing on XP pro anymore. I just installed my retail XP pro that was on a machine that died into another one and expected I would have to call the 800 number, for the 3d degree before they would authenticate it (like the olden days) but it sailed right through the online okey dokey, passed the microsoft "legal OS" test and let me download the new media player. My wife's new desktop computer came with Win 7 and had a small amount of non-Microsoft Windows "crapware" on it, which I was able to remove without incident. There are a handful of varieties of Win 7, and you can upgrade from one to another by paying a fee, but I didn't see anything that let you downgrade from Win 7 to XP. The downgrade was just for unhappy Vista users. One thing I learned from the smartest guys in the mainframe business is to stay one generation behind the latest hardware and software. Let some other pioneer take all the arrows and pay all of that "new smell" cost. I am just starting to get rid of my last W98 apps but I am sure I will still have a few 98 machines around. I still use DOS for my MP3 players. Everything else is XP pro. I did find a guy in Ebay selling 1gz WYSE XP thin clients for $20 a pop so I may be moving my servers to them.They only use 20-30 watts. I am using an old lap top for my weather station and my TV machine is a 2.4 gz Compaq desktop. That is now going to have to run 24/7 now because Replay TV is dropping support on their DVR so I need to replace that with a local WiRNS server. I just upgraded my two mac machines to OS X Lion. The upgrade was $29 and change, total, for my two machines. Would have been the same for five machines. Or maybe more machines. Anyway, I started the upgrade and was "asked" one or two questions and it took over. I went to a meeting for about an hour and a half and when I got back, the upgrades were both installed. I was always nervous about windoze upgrades because sometimes they would die halfway through, or present some impossibly arcane error message. I'm on the new OS now. There supposedly are "250 new features," but I haven't looked at the list and there's no real cheat sheet that shows how to use them...not yet. I'm trying to resolve a Win 7 problem for my wife. When she VPNs in from home to her server downtown, she can't print locally...whatever she wants to print prints on one of her office printers but not on her home laserprinter. I'm hoping it is only a minor headache to set up... :) Using your wife's machine to spoof? While Macs are ok machines and a great OS, they are far over priced big time. I can, and do buy 3 or 4 machines for the price of one Mac. So if one is stolen, well, I have backups. And Win 7 while a marginal OS for security, I keep the sensitive stuff encrypted inside a virtual machine using an OS with security built in. She can't print locally because the work doesn't want her printing work materials at home. It is intentional. So your wife supports you at her age? You are a loser. 1. I don't use my wife's computers for anything. I do help her set up new software or help her resolve problems with the equipment. You mean you don't know how to? You know how to spoof. 2. I have the money to buy whatever computer I want. If one of my machines is stolen, I call my insurance agent and he gets his company to send me a check. Probably an ancient Mac too. 3. You're wrong about printing work materials at home. One of the guys at her work IT department will talk me through the proper setup. So why did you infer it couldn't be done? Another fleabag brain fart? 4. My wife doesn't support me. My earnings are almost twice hers. They used to be three times hers, but I have cut back. Funny, you don't work. She is supporting you. Typical fleabag, living off a woman. Four strikes and you are more than out, moron. I looked at it as 4 home runs. -- What government fears the most is that the people correctly learn that they need government less than the government needs them. Say no more debt, no more debt-slave taxes. Economic freedom matters too! |
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On 7/20/11 4:06 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 20/07/2011 1:13 PM, Harryk wrote: 1. I don't use my wife's computers for anything. I do help her set up new software or help her resolve problems with the equipment. You mean you don't know how to? You know how to spoof. I don't know how to what? She has a new computer and has a "printing problem" I've never encountered. 2. I have the money to buy whatever computer I want. If one of my machines is stolen, I call my insurance agent and he gets his company to send me a check. Probably an ancient Mac too. My iMac is a year old. My macbook pro is two years old. 3. You're wrong about printing work materials at home. One of the guys at her work IT department will talk me through the proper setup. So why did you infer it couldn't be done? Another fleabag brain fart? D'oh. I didn't say it couldn't be done. I said *I* didn't know how to resolve the problem. You really are a moron. 4. My wife doesn't support me. My earnings are almost twice hers. They used to be three times hers, but I have cut back. Funny, you don't work. She is supporting you. Typical fleabag, living off a woman. Four strikes and you are more than out, moron. I looked at it as 4 home runs. In what? The league of three year old tots playing baseball? You're an ignorant ass and you demonstrate that with your every post. At best you are barely literate. How far did you get in school? |
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