On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:11:30 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:31:20 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

On 7/19/11 9:22 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 19, 7:58 pm, John wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:56:06 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Jul 18, 11:52 am, John wrote:
...thinking about this one. Any input? Anyone ever heard of it?

http://tinyurl.com/4xhpyk6

My wife has one and it's a nice machine, but it is heavy. and it's
also loaded with Visa, which is kind of a pain, but it does everything
she needs it for, which is a lot more than what i need. She's had no
problem with the machine itself, but the battery died w/in warranty,
and who ever she bought it from sent her one out promptly and a call
tag to send the defective one back shipping paid both ways.

The Geek Squad at Best Buys will remove all that stuff for $25. Not sure if they'll work on any
computer, or if it has to be bought there. My wife's was very clean when she brought it home.

hmmm, I said 'Visa" when I meant "Vista" just now caught it. but you
knew what I meant, I'm sure....

Let's see...Tim's wife's computer was loaded with Visa, which "is kind
of a pain..." Visa, aka Vista, is the operating system on that computer.

Herring says the Best Buy boys will remove "all that stuff" (Vista) for
$25.

I wonder what parts of the operating system the Best Buy boys will
remove, and how well the computer will run without them?

You don't need or want Vista, install Win7 instead. If the computer
is current, there's no way it'd be delivered with Vista.

I've been using Win7 Pro for quite a while now, and I really like it.
Very stable like XP Pro, and it's easier. It does take some getting
used to but not like Vista.

On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:36:28 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:11:30 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:31:20 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

On 7/19/11 9:22 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 19, 7:58 pm, John wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:56:06 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Jul 18, 11:52 am, John wrote:
...thinking about this one. Any input? Anyone ever heard of it?

http://tinyurl.com/4xhpyk6

My wife has one and it's a nice machine, but it is heavy. and it's
also loaded with Visa, which is kind of a pain, but it does everything
she needs it for, which is a lot more than what i need. She's had no
problem with the machine itself, but the battery died w/in warranty,
and who ever she bought it from sent her one out promptly and a call
tag to send the defective one back shipping paid both ways.

The Geek Squad at Best Buys will remove all that stuff for $25. Not sure if they'll work on any
computer, or if it has to be bought there. My wife's was very clean when she brought it home.

hmmm, I said 'Visa" when I meant "Vista" just now caught it. but you
knew what I meant, I'm sure....

Let's see...Tim's wife's computer was loaded with Visa, which "is kind
of a pain..." Visa, aka Vista, is the operating system on that computer.

Herring says the Best Buy boys will remove "all that stuff" (Vista) for
$25.

I wonder what parts of the operating system the Best Buy boys will
remove, and how well the computer will run without them?

You don't need or want Vista, install Win7 instead. If the computer
is current, there's no way it'd be delivered with Vista.

I've been using Win7 Pro for quite a while now, and I really like it.
Very stable like XP Pro, and it's easier. It does take some getting
used to but not like Vista.

Vista was a resource hog, having to support the technical bridge from
XP forward. Win7 has lost all the extraneous, unneccesary crud. It's
much lighter and faster than Vista and closer in stability to XP.

I've been running 7 pro ultimate for about a year and find it very
stable.

On 7/20/11 1:36 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:11:30 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:31:20 -0400,
wrote:

On 7/19/11 9:22 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 19, 7:58 pm, John wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:56:06 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Jul 18, 11:52 am, John wrote:
...thinking about this one. Any input? Anyone ever heard of it?

http://tinyurl.com/4xhpyk6

My wife has one and it's a nice machine, but it is heavy. and it's
also loaded with Visa, which is kind of a pain, but it does everything
she needs it for, which is a lot more than what i need. She's had no
problem with the machine itself, but the battery died w/in warranty,
and who ever she bought it from sent her one out promptly and a call
tag to send the defective one back shipping paid both ways.

The Geek Squad at Best Buys will remove all that stuff for $25. Not sure if they'll work on any
computer, or if it has to be bought there. My wife's was very clean when she brought it home.

hmmm, I said 'Visa" when I meant "Vista" just now caught it. but you
knew what I meant, I'm sure....

Let's see...Tim's wife's computer was loaded with Visa, which "is kind
of a pain..." Visa, aka Vista, is the operating system on that computer.

Herring says the Best Buy boys will remove "all that stuff" (Vista) for
$25.

I wonder what parts of the operating system the Best Buy boys will
remove, and how well the computer will run without them?

You don't need or want Vista, install Win7 instead. If the computer
is current, there's no way it'd be delivered with Vista.

I've been using Win7 Pro for quite a while now, and I really like it.
Very stable like XP Pro, and it's easier. It does take some getting
used to but not like Vista.


My wife's new home desktop computer came with some flavor of Win 7, but
other than installing some software on it for her, I've managed to avoid
using it. She's also got an ancient HP laptop running XP, but only uses
that to pull in email when she travels. It's a clunker and I think I'm
going to get her to donate it to some organization and get her an iPad
III when it comes out, or maybe a netbook. Her laptop weighs about 8
pounds with the powerpack. The iPads weigh next to nothing.

On 7/19/11 11:16 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:31:20 -0400,
wrote:

On 7/19/11 9:22 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 19, 7:58 pm, John wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:56:06 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Jul 18, 11:52 am, John wrote:
...thinking about this one. Any input? Anyone ever heard of it?

http://tinyurl.com/4xhpyk6

My wife has one and it's a nice machine, but it is heavy. and it's
also loaded with Visa, which is kind of a pain, but it does everything
she needs it for, which is a lot more than what i need. She's had no
problem with the machine itself, but the battery died w/in warranty,
and who ever she bought it from sent her one out promptly and a call
tag to send the defective one back shipping paid both ways.

The Geek Squad at Best Buys will remove all that stuff for $25. Not sure if they'll work on any
computer, or if it has to be bought there. My wife's was very clean when she brought it home.

hmmm, I said 'Visa" when I meant "Vista" just now caught it. but you
knew what I meant, I'm sure....

Let's see...Tim's wife's computer was loaded with Visa, which "is kind
of a pain..." Visa, aka Vista, is the operating system on that computer.

Herring says the Best Buy boys will remove "all that stuff" (Vista) for
$25.

I wonder what parts of the operating system the Best Buy boys will
remove, and how well the computer will run without them?


Are they talking about Microsoft's infamous "upgrade to a more
familiar version" (AKA removing Vista and installing XP).
My wife had her vendor do that with all the new machines in her office
that came with Vista.

BTW Microsoft may not be enforcing that "you can't swap machines
without calling us" thing on XP pro anymore.

I just installed my retail XP pro that was on a machine that died into
another one and expected I would have to call the 800 number, for the
3d degree before they would authenticate it (like the olden days) but
it sailed right through the online okey dokey, passed the microsoft
"legal OS" test and let me download the new media player.


My wife's new desktop computer came with Win 7 and had a small amount of
non-Microsoft Windows "crapware" on it, which I was able to remove
without incident. There are a handful of varieties of Win 7, and you can
upgrade from one to another by paying a fee, but I didn't see anything
that let you downgrade from Win 7 to XP.

In article ,
says...

On 7/19/11 9:22 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 19, 7:58 pm, John wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:56:06 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Jul 18, 11:52 am, John wrote:
...thinking about this one. Any input? Anyone ever heard of it?

http://tinyurl.com/4xhpyk6

My wife has one and it's a nice machine, but it is heavy. and it's
also loaded with Visa, which is kind of a pain, but it does everything
she needs it for, which is a lot more than what i need. She's had no
problem with the machine itself, but the battery died w/in warranty,
and who ever she bought it from sent her one out promptly and a call
tag to send the defective one back shipping paid both ways.

The Geek Squad at Best Buys will remove all that stuff for $25. Not sure if they'll work on any
computer, or if it has to be bought there. My wife's was very clean when she brought it home.

hmmm, I said 'Visa" when I meant "Vista" just now caught it. but you
knew what I meant, I'm sure....

Let's see...Tim's wife's computer was loaded with Visa, which "is kind
of a pain..." Visa, aka Vista, is the operating system on that computer.

Herring says the Best Buy boys will remove "all that stuff" (Vista) for
$25.

I wonder what parts of the operating system the Best Buy boys will
remove, and how well the computer will run without them?

Spoofer alert! Any moron would know it will run just fine when a better
operating system, ie: Win7 is installed. Vista sucks.

On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:22:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Jul 19, 7:58*pm, John H wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:56:06 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Jul 18, 11:52 am, John H wrote:
...thinking about this one. Any input? Anyone ever heard of it?

http://tinyurl.com/4xhpyk6

My wife has one and it's a nice machine, but it is heavy. and it's
also loaded with Visa, which is kind of a pain, but it does everything
she needs it for, which is a lot more than what i need. She's had no
problem with the machine itself, but the battery died w/in warranty,
and who ever she bought it from sent her one out promptly and a call
tag to send the defective one back shipping paid both ways.

The Geek Squad at Best Buys will remove all that stuff for $25. Not sure if they'll work on any
computer, or if it has to be bought there. My wife's was very clean when she brought it home.

hmmm, I said 'Visa" when I meant "Vista" just now caught it. but you
knew what I meant, I'm sure....

No, I thought you meant that advertising crap that comes loaded on most new computers. I'm not too
bright, as you can tell.

The two I'm looking at now both have Windows 7.

They are the one above and this one: http://tinyurl.com/3s8nrxw

They're both the same price, but the Lenovo has a few more features, like Blu-Ray DVD, bigger hard
drive, more RAM, one more USB port and a 5-in-1 card reader, and what appears to be a nicer keypad.

A friend has a Lenovo he bought in 2007. Uses it in his garage. Loves it.

I'm leaning that way.

On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 23:16:51 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:31:20 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

On 7/19/11 9:22 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 19, 7:58 pm, John wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:56:06 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Jul 18, 11:52 am, John wrote:
...thinking about this one. Any input? Anyone ever heard of it?

http://tinyurl.com/4xhpyk6

My wife has one and it's a nice machine, but it is heavy. and it's
also loaded with Visa, which is kind of a pain, but it does everything
she needs it for, which is a lot more than what i need. She's had no
problem with the machine itself, but the battery died w/in warranty,
and who ever she bought it from sent her one out promptly and a call
tag to send the defective one back shipping paid both ways.

The Geek Squad at Best Buys will remove all that stuff for $25. Not sure if they'll work on any
computer, or if it has to be bought there. My wife's was very clean when she brought it home.

hmmm, I said 'Visa" when I meant "Vista" just now caught it. but you
knew what I meant, I'm sure....

Let's see...Tim's wife's computer was loaded with Visa, which "is kind
of a pain..." Visa, aka Vista, is the operating system on that computer.

Herring says the Best Buy boys will remove "all that stuff" (Vista) for
$25.

I wonder what parts of the operating system the Best Buy boys will
remove, and how well the computer will run without them?


Are they talking about Microsoft's infamous "upgrade to a more
familiar version" (AKA removing Vista and installing XP).
My wife had her vendor do that with all the new machines in her office
that came with Vista.

BTW Microsoft may not be enforcing that "you can't swap machines
without calling us" thing on XP pro anymore.

I just installed my retail XP pro that was on a machine that died into
another one and expected I would have to call the 800 number, for the
3d degree before they would authenticate it (like the olden days) but
it sailed right through the online okey dokey, passed the microsoft
"legal OS" test and let me download the new media player.

No, I was talking about all the ad **** that comes pre-loaded on new machines. Tim had made a typo,
which got me on a different track. Both machines I'm looking at come with Windows 7 - not that piece
of crap Vista.

Harry is just being....Harry. (That's plenty of name-calling right there!!)

On 7/20/2011 6:11 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/20/11 1:36 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:11:30 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:31:20 -0400,
wrote:

On 7/19/11 9:22 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 19, 7:58 pm, John wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:56:06 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
On Jul 18, 11:52 am, John wrote:
...thinking about this one. Any input? Anyone ever heard of it?

http://tinyurl.com/4xhpyk6

My wife has one and it's a nice machine, but it is heavy. and it's
also loaded with Visa, which is kind of a pain, but it does
everything
she needs it for, which is a lot more than what i need. She's
had no
problem with the machine itself, but the battery died w/in
warranty,
and who ever she bought it from sent her one out promptly and a
call
tag to send the defective one back shipping paid both ways.

The Geek Squad at Best Buys will remove all that stuff for $25.
Not sure if they'll work on any
computer, or if it has to be bought there. My wife's was very
clean when she brought it home.

hmmm, I said 'Visa" when I meant "Vista" just now caught it. but you
knew what I meant, I'm sure....

Let's see...Tim's wife's computer was loaded with Visa, which "is kind
of a pain..." Visa, aka Vista, is the operating system on that
computer.

Herring says the Best Buy boys will remove "all that stuff" (Vista)
for
$25.

I wonder what parts of the operating system the Best Buy boys will
remove, and how well the computer will run without them?

You don't need or want Vista, install Win7 instead. If the computer
is current, there's no way it'd be delivered with Vista.

I've been using Win7 Pro for quite a while now, and I really like it.
Very stable like XP Pro, and it's easier. It does take some getting
used to but not like Vista.


My wife's new home desktop computer came with some flavor of Win 7,
but other than installing some software on it for her, I've managed to
avoid using it. She's also got an ancient HP laptop running XP, but
only uses that to pull in email when she travels. It's a clunker and I
think I'm going to get her to donate it to some organization and get
her an iPad III when it comes out, or maybe a netbook. Her laptop
weighs about 8 pounds with the powerpack. The iPads weigh next to
nothing.
Two windows machines in the house? Kind of throws the phrase "I only
post with a Mac *out the window*" Snerk.

On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 23:16:51 -0400, wrote:

BTW Microsoft may not be enforcing that "you can't swap machines
without calling us" thing on XP pro anymore.

I just installed my retail XP pro that was on a machine that died into
another one and expected I would have to call the 800 number, for the
3d degree before they would authenticate it (like the olden days) but
it sailed right through the online okey dokey, passed the microsoft
"legal OS" test and let me download the new media player.

I think MS came to their senses and is only screening for blatant
abuses such as many different machines on the same license key. The
vast majority of people calling the 800 number had legitimate issues.

On 7/20/2011 6:32 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/19/11 11:16 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:31:20 -0400,
wrote:

On 7/19/11 9:22 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 19, 7:58 pm, John wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:56:06 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
On Jul 18, 11:52 am, John wrote:
...thinking about this one. Any input? Anyone ever heard of it?

http://tinyurl.com/4xhpyk6

My wife has one and it's a nice machine, but it is heavy. and it's
also loaded with Visa, which is kind of a pain, but it does
everything
she needs it for, which is a lot more than what i need. She's had no
problem with the machine itself, but the battery died w/in warranty,
and who ever she bought it from sent her one out promptly and a call
tag to send the defective one back shipping paid both ways.

The Geek Squad at Best Buys will remove all that stuff for $25.
Not sure if they'll work on any
computer, or if it has to be bought there. My wife's was very
clean when she brought it home.

hmmm, I said 'Visa" when I meant "Vista" just now caught it. but you
knew what I meant, I'm sure....

Let's see...Tim's wife's computer was loaded with Visa, which "is kind
of a pain..." Visa, aka Vista, is the operating system on that
computer.

Herring says the Best Buy boys will remove "all that stuff" (Vista) for
$25.

I wonder what parts of the operating system the Best Buy boys will
remove, and how well the computer will run without them?


Are they talking about Microsoft's infamous "upgrade to a more
familiar version" (AKA removing Vista and installing XP).
My wife had her vendor do that with all the new machines in her office
that came with Vista.

BTW Microsoft may not be enforcing that "you can't swap machines
without calling us" thing on XP pro anymore.

I just installed my retail XP pro that was on a machine that died into
another one and expected I would have to call the 800 number, for the
3d degree before they would authenticate it (like the olden days) but
it sailed right through the online okey dokey, passed the microsoft
"legal OS" test and let me download the new media player.


My wife's new desktop computer came with Win 7 and had a small amount
of non-Microsoft Windows "crapware" on it, which I was able to remove
without incident. There are a handful of varieties of Win 7, and you
can upgrade from one to another by paying a fee, but I didn't see
anything that let you downgrade from Win 7 to XP.


He's not talking about downgrading from Windows 7, crap for brains.
Learn to read.