is stimulus spending good for america?
 

turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:27:40 -0400, wf3h wrote:

turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

I know the chart shows that, but I think it may be a correlative
effect and not causational. There's no way to know without looking at
the data. Interestingly, the author admits as much but is right. It's
fun to push it back in their faces.

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:39:55 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:27:40 -0400, wf3h wrote:

turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

I know the chart shows that, but I think it may be a correlative
effect and not causational. There's no way to know without looking at
the data. Interestingly, the author admits as much but is right. It's
fun to push it back in their faces.

i think it's more useful to show the right wing hysteria about the
stimulus causing disaster is just bull****

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On 11/07/2011 4:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

Jobs were gone a long time ago. It would have been cheaper to put them
on on EI for 10 years. Pretty expensive jobs and 1/2 of them are gone
already anyways.

More to come too, round 2 of the depression coming right at ya.

--
Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future.
And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags...

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:27:20 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/07/2011 4:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

Jobs were gone a long time ago. It would have been cheaper to put them
on on EI for 10 years. Pretty expensive jobs and 1/2 of them are gone
already anyways.

More to come too, round 2 of the depression coming right at ya.

funny that canada has 30% union membership and 7.4% unemployment

free market US has made it illegal to join unions...7% unions

and 9.2% unemployment

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:37:38 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:27:20 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/07/2011 4:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

Jobs were gone a long time ago. It would have been cheaper to put them
on on EI for 10 years. Pretty expensive jobs and 1/2 of them are gone
already anyways.

More to come too, round 2 of the depression coming right at ya.

funny that canada has 30% union membership and 7.4% unemployment

free market US has made it illegal to join unions...7% unions

and 9.2% unemployment

No, no. Knuckles is talking about his mental state... depressive.

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:27:20 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/07/2011 4:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

Jobs were gone a long time ago. It would have been cheaper to put them
on on EI for 10 years. Pretty expensive jobs and 1/2 of them are gone
already anyways.

More to come too, round 2 of the depression coming right at ya.

funny that canada has 30% union membership and 7.4% unemployment

free market US has made it illegal to join unions...7% unions

and 9.2% unemployment


Reply:
Canada is a small population country, with a large holding of Coal and oil.
They are shipping that energy in the raw to China. Most of those union jobs
are in those oil and coal companies. Which are making lots of money. Lots
of the rest of Canada is hurting. Was in BC last summer for a few weeks.
Any thing tourist related is really hurting. Fishing guides I talked with
said their bookings were way down. Lots of empty hotel rooms also.

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:25:14 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:27:20 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/07/2011 4:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

Jobs were gone a long time ago. It would have been cheaper to put them
on on EI for 10 years. Pretty expensive jobs and 1/2 of them are gone
already anyways.

More to come too, round 2 of the depression coming right at ya.

funny that canada has 30% union membership and 7.4% unemployment

free market US has made it illegal to join unions...7% unions

and 9.2% unemployment


Reply:
Canada is a small population country, with a large holding of Coal and oil.
They are shipping that energy in the raw to China. Most of those union jobs
are in those oil and coal companies. Which are making lots of money. Lots
of the rest of Canada is hurting. Was in BC last summer for a few weeks.
Any thing tourist related is really hurting. Fishing guides I talked with
said their bookings were way down. Lots of empty hotel rooms also.

So, because the tourist industry is hurting, in a large measure due to
the lousy world economy, that means unions are bad? What point are you
trying to make, because you're not making it.

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:25:14 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:27:20 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/07/2011 4:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

Jobs were gone a long time ago. It would have been cheaper to put them
on on EI for 10 years. Pretty expensive jobs and 1/2 of them are gone
already anyways.

More to come too, round 2 of the depression coming right at ya.

funny that canada has 30% union membership and 7.4% unemployment

free market US has made it illegal to join unions...7% unions

and 9.2% unemployment


Reply:
Canada is a small population country,

dodge number 1.


with a large holding of Coal and oil.

which has nothing to do with manufacturing. dodge number 2

They are shipping that energy in the raw to China. Most of those union jobs
are in those oil and coal companies.

gee. 30% of canadians are involved in the oil industry?

really? proof? oh.

none.

IOW you just made up a bunch of bull**** to hide the fact the right
wing in the US got everything it wanted

and look at the results

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On 11/07/2011 4:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

THe more DEBT, the less jobs. So instead of fleabag insanity of more of
mortgage America into the tax-slavery poor house why not try something
new. Even Einstein said doing the same thing and expecting different
results was insane.

Have governments spend less than they rake in and pay the damned bills.

Debt-taxation and currency fraud is scaring off job producing investment.

--
Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future.
And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags...

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On 7/12/11 11:30 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 11/07/2011 4:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

THe more DEBT, the less jobs. So instead of fleabag insanity of more of
mortgage America into the tax-slavery poor house why not try something
new. Even Einstein said doing the same thing and expecting different
results was insane.

Have governments spend less than they rake in and pay the damned bills.

Debt-taxation and currency fraud is scaring off job producing investment.


Greed is chilling investment.

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On 11/07/2011 6:37 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:27:20 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/07/2011 4:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

Jobs were gone a long time ago. It would have been cheaper to put them
on on EI for 10 years. Pretty expensive jobs and 1/2 of them are gone
already anyways.

More to come too, round 2 of the depression coming right at ya.

funny that canada has 30% union membership and 7.4% unemployment

free market US has made it illegal to join unions...7% unions

and 9.2% unemployment

Actually, unions are getting busted or legislated back to work on
company terms, or locked out.
--
Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future.
And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags...

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On 11/07/2011 10:25 PM, Califbill wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:27:20 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/07/2011 4:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

Jobs were gone a long time ago. It would have been cheaper to put them
on on EI for 10 years. Pretty expensive jobs and 1/2 of them are gone
already anyways.

More to come too, round 2 of the depression coming right at ya.

funny that canada has 30% union membership and 7.4% unemployment

free market US has made it illegal to join unions...7% unions

and 9.2% unemployment


Reply:
Canada is a small population country, with a large holding of Coal and
oil. They are shipping that energy in the raw to China. Most of those
union jobs are in those oil and coal companies. Which are making lots of
money. Lots of the rest of Canada is hurting. Was in BC last summer for
a few weeks. Any thing tourist related is really hurting. Fishing guides
I talked with said their bookings were way down. Lots of empty hotel
rooms also.

Tourism is hurting in BC because of stupid prices driven by taxes. I
live in Alberta, right next to BC, and I save my money for Alaska or
Costa Rica.... I don't travel BC any more. Between depression times
and taxes BC makes no sense.

Might do Montana here shortly as they don't have sales tax for visitors
shopping.

--
Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future.
And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags...

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:33:43 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/07/2011 6:37 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:27:20 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/07/2011 4:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

Jobs were gone a long time ago. It would have been cheaper to put them
on on EI for 10 years. Pretty expensive jobs and 1/2 of them are gone
already anyways.

More to come too, round 2 of the depression coming right at ya.

funny that canada has 30% union membership and 7.4% unemployment

free market US has made it illegal to join unions...7% unions

and 9.2% unemployment

Actually, unions are getting busted or legislated back to work on
company terms, or locked out.


gee pretty soon your labor market will look like ours. ready for
double digit unemployment?

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:30:55 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/07/2011 4:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

THe more DEBT, the less jobs.

but dick cheney said debts dont matter, remember? that was
conservative dogma until the

black

guy got elected


Debt-taxation and currency fraud is scaring off job producing investment.

you're an idiot. you just quoted einstein about doing the same thing
over and over expecting different results

you keep bleating the same wrong bull**** over and over. america has
the lowest taxes in 60 years.

moron

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On 12/07/2011 5:19 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:33:43 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/07/2011 6:37 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:27:20 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/07/2011 4:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

Jobs were gone a long time ago. It would have been cheaper to put them
on on EI for 10 years. Pretty expensive jobs and 1/2 of them are gone
already anyways.

More to come too, round 2 of the depression coming right at ya.

funny that canada has 30% union membership and 7.4% unemployment

free market US has made it illegal to join unions...7% unions

and 9.2% unemployment

Actually, unions are getting busted or legislated back to work on
company terms, or locked out.


gee pretty soon your labor market will look like ours. ready for
double digit unemployment?

I expect it by year end. In fact it is probably pretty close to the USA
as it is. Government adjusts all sorts of crap up here. For example
contractors are not part of the numbers at all.

s Carlin would have said, government numbers are just more bull****.
Government income tax revenue says more.
--
Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future.
And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags...

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On 12/07/2011 5:21 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:30:55 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/07/2011 4:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

THe more DEBT, the less jobs.

but dick cheney said debts dont matter, remember? that was
conservative dogma until the

black

guy got elected


Debt-taxation and currency fraud is scaring off job producing investment.

you're an idiot. you just quoted einstein about doing the same thing
over and over expecting different results

you keep bleating the same wrong bull**** over and over. america has
the lowest taxes in 60 years.

moron

Polly want cracker?

Are you suggesting because Obama be black that is why he has incurred
more debt than any other person in history?

--
Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future.
And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags...

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:20:01 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 12/07/2011 5:19 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:33:43 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/07/2011 6:37 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:27:20 -0600,
wrote:

Actually, unions are getting busted or legislated back to work on
company terms, or locked out.


gee pretty soon your labor market will look like ours. ready for
double digit unemployment?

I expect it by year end. In fact it is probably pretty close to the USA
as it is. Government adjusts all sorts of crap up here. For example
contractors are not part of the numbers at all



breaking of the unions is the first step to a 3rd world country

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:21:56 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 12/07/2011 5:21 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:30:55 -0600,
wrote:



Debt-taxation and currency fraud is scaring off job producing investment.

you're an idiot. you just quoted einstein about doing the same thing
over and over expecting different results

you keep bleating the same wrong bull**** over and over. america has
the lowest taxes in 60 years.

moron

Polly want cracker?

Are you suggesting because Obama be black that is why he has incurred
more debt than any other person in history?

are you suggesting that, snce he's black, he gets blamed for the
trillion dollar war in iraq started by bush?

yeah. you are

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On 12/07/2011 7:52 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:20:01 -0600,
wrote:

On 12/07/2011 5:19 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:33:43 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/07/2011 6:37 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:27:20 -0600,
wrote:

Actually, unions are getting busted or legislated back to work on
company terms, or locked out.


gee pretty soon your labor market will look like ours. ready for
double digit unemployment?

I expect it by year end. In fact it is probably pretty close to the USA
as it is. Government adjusts all sorts of crap up here. For example
contractors are not part of the numbers at all



breaking of the unions is the first step to a 3rd world country

Nope, the second step to rebuilding America. First is replacing Obama
the debtor.
--
Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future.
And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags...

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:04:35 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 12/07/2011 7:52 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:20:01 -0600,
wrote:

On 12/07/2011 5:19 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:33:43 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/07/2011 6:37 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:27:20 -0600,
wrote:

Actually, unions are getting busted or legislated back to work on
company terms, or locked out.


gee pretty soon your labor market will look like ours. ready for
double digit unemployment?

I expect it by year end. In fact it is probably pretty close to the USA
as it is. Government adjusts all sorts of crap up here. For example
contractors are not part of the numbers at all



breaking of the unions is the first step to a 3rd world country

Nope, the second step to rebuilding America. First is replacing Obama
the debtor.

what a moron. you still dont get it.

america

no unions. no manufacturing. dead economy

germany: strong uinons

but you're a corporatist flunky. to you, a CEO is spelled GOD

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:11:12 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:04:35 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 12/07/2011 7:52 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:20:01 -0600,
wrote:

On 12/07/2011 5:19 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:33:43 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/07/2011 6:37 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:27:20 -0600,
wrote:

Actually, unions are getting busted or legislated back to work on
company terms, or locked out.


gee pretty soon your labor market will look like ours. ready for
double digit unemployment?

I expect it by year end. In fact it is probably pretty close to the USA
as it is. Government adjusts all sorts of crap up here. For example
contractors are not part of the numbers at all



breaking of the unions is the first step to a 3rd world country

Nope, the second step to rebuilding America. First is replacing Obama
the debtor.

what a moron. you still dont get it.

america

no unions. no manufacturing. dead economy

germany: strong uinons

but you're a corporatist flunky. to you, a CEO is spelled GOD

Nah... he's just a flunky. No business would have him as an employee.

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

Obama maxed out the credit card. He FAILED.

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:40:30 -0400, L G wrote:

wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

Obama maxed out the credit card. He FAILED.

bush did the spending. the creidt card company sent the bill to the
next occupant of the white house.

that's what has you confused

white

house

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On 13/07/2011 6:40 PM, L G wrote:
wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html
Obama maxed out the credit card. He FAILED.

Depends, was bankrupting USA and mortgaging future generations with
debt-taxation to newborns his objective? Then I would say he was doing
pretty darned good job.

Fleabagers don't realize job creating investors see the pending
debt-taxation comng, the statism tax greed. So why invest in USA? For
a depreciating currency in a depreciating economy for a shrinking
customer base, for a below inflation return, and the risk.....

Only way out for DC is simply to pass a balanced budget right now. No
more screwing around.

Best way off a heroin addiction is stop doing it.
Best way off a alcohol addiction is stop doing it.
Best way off a debt addiction is stop doing it.

Too bad we can't reach the fleabaggers. I guess their greed is so
strong that rationality and integrity mater to them not.
--
Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future.
And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags...

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

In article ,
says...

wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

Obama maxed out the credit card. He FAILED.

I usually don't say anything negative about this administration, but I
heard a comedian say the other day "In three days, we're going to have
to park our country down the street so that the Chinese don't find it!"

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On 14/07/2011 7:03 AM, Harryk wrote:
In articlenIWdnZBLLrBvp4PTnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

Obama maxed out the credit card. He FAILED.

I usually don't say anything negative about this administration, but I
heard a comedian say the other day "In three days, we're going to have
to park our country down the street so that the Chinese don't find it!"

Might be true. Chinese are looking for any excuse to dump USDs. Maybe
sell GM China to China? Might keep Obama in spend for a day or two.

--
While Bush blew up part of the US economy and started it,
Obama is working at blowing up the worlds economy with DEBT.
The road to wealth is not paved with debt.
The road paved with debt leads to poverty.
It is pure GREED that drives government debt.

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:10:27 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 14/07/2011 7:03 AM, Harryk wrote:
In articlenIWdnZBLLrBvp4PTnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

Obama maxed out the credit card. He FAILED.

I usually don't say anything negative about this administration, but I
heard a comedian say the other day "In three days, we're going to have
to park our country down the street so that the Chinese don't find it!"

Might be true. Chinese are looking for any excuse to dump USDs. Maybe
sell GM China to China? Might keep Obama in spend for a day or two.

Maybe you should move there, since you love their system so much.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out of Canada.

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

wf3h wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:40:30 -0400, L wrote:


wf3h wrote:

turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html


Obama maxed out the credit card. He FAILED.

bush did the spending. the creidt card company sent the bill to the
next occupant of the white house.

that's what has you confused

white

house

If you believe that, you are dumb and deserve to retire poor.

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:22:28 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 13/07/2011 6:40 PM, L G wrote:
wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html
Obama maxed out the credit card. He FAILED.

Depends, was bankrupting USA and mortgaging future generations with
debt-taxation to newborns his objective? Then I would say he was doing
pretty darned good job.

Fleabagers don't realize job creating investors see the pending
debt-taxation comng, the statism tax greed.

taxes are the lowest in 60 years.

but he's too stupid to know that

but he knows our pres is black...

Too bad we can't reach the fleabaggers. I guess their greed is so
strong that rationality and integrity mater to them not.

gee. we have a right wing congress

what cuts have they proposed?

oh. none

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:41:29 -0400, L G wrote:

wf3h wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:40:30 -0400, L wrote:


wf3h wrote:

turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html


Obama maxed out the credit card. He FAILED.

bush did the spending. the creidt card company sent the bill to the
next occupant of the white house.

that's what has you confused

white

house

If you believe that, you are dumb and deserve to retire poor.

i have the evidence. you have a burning cross

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On 14/07/2011 7:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:22:28 -0600,
wrote:

On 13/07/2011 6:40 PM, L G wrote:
wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html
Obama maxed out the credit card. He FAILED.

Depends, was bankrupting USA and mortgaging future generations with
debt-taxation to newborns his objective? Then I would say he was doing
pretty darned good job.

Fleabagers don't realize job creating investors see the pending
debt-taxation comng, the statism tax greed.

taxes are the lowest in 60 years.

Ya so? And employment taxes now exceed income tax. Your point?

Oh, you mean 2006 congress money print fraud caused unemployment so now
fewer jobs, lower incomes reducing income tax to less than 60% of 2006
values. And as if unemployed are paying taxes.

Ditto corporations, low interest rates allows them to earn less and
still keep share holders on board. Plus nobody buying their stuff
because they are broke, maek less money pay less taxes. Yep, DEBTORS
GREED for low interest rates ****ed he US economy good. High
unemployment and less government revenue.

Now government statists are worried about government, not giving a ****
about what is good for America or good for the people, just what keeps
the big fat huge government bloat going is all that maters.

Willing to bet the farm on debt-corruption.tax-spend that hasn't worked
for 4 years, yet expecting different results, truly insane. But so is
slapping unborn in America with debt-tax slavery. You debtors are the
most blindly greedy selfish *******s alive and deserving to live like
Zimbabwe, which also blew up their currency on ponzi debt scheme just
like Bernanke, Obama and others are doing.

Yep, your blind GREED is astounding. Just debt leaches, I now know why
debt that isn't honoired is considered a sin in both the bible and in
the Islam. Good part about Islam, the practice is honor your debts or
loose your head.

In America's case, there will be masses of poor, working poor and those
well off without debt. But many with money will leave. Some already
have ;).


--
Obama and the fleabaggers, installing debt-tax slavery
to unborn Americans, and ruination of the American economy
with DEBT.

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Jul 12, 10:25*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:11:12 -0400, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:04:35 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 12/07/2011 7:52 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:20:01 -0600,
wrote:

On 12/07/2011 5:19 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:33:43 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/07/2011 6:37 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:27:20 -0600,
wrote:

Actually, unions are getting busted or legislated back to work on
company terms, or locked out.

gee pretty soon your labor market will look like ours. ready for
double digit unemployment?

I expect it by year end. *In fact it is probably pretty close to the USA
as it is. *Government adjusts all sorts of crap up here. For example
contractors are not part of the numbers at all

breaking of the unions is the first step to a 3rd world country

Nope, the second step to rebuilding America. *First is replacing Obama
the debtor.

what a moron. you still dont get it.

america

no unions. no manufacturing. dead economy

germany: strong uinons

but you're a corporatist flunky. to you, a CEO is spelled GOD

Nah... he's just a flunky. No business would have him as an employee.

Evidently, none prefer you either.

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On 11/07/2011 4:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

Actual the criminals could sell you anything. QE is criminal fraud
screwing you.

Fact is no one lends money to the US government any more, they haven't
since Sept 2008. What really happens is Bernanke creates new no value
fraud money, then buys treasuries through Goldman Sachs that buys them
from the government. Makes Goldman Sachs rich, screws the people with
inflation and fraud and unemployment rises.

Get over it, Obomba bombed the US in DEBT. And that very debt is
unemployed people. Why buy a property in the US with the debt-tax
hammer over your head? Or invest there? Fact is, DEBT is the problem.

Obama will not default unless his bailout buddies are more important
than paying his debts. August 2nd just means pay as you go. Obama just
has to cut the parts of governemtn that don't mater to the people.

Belgium did this about a year ago, shutdown pretty much 90% of
government, the majority of people are over the FUD and now want it
permanent. Yep, they massively shrunk their federal government to next
to nothing.

The sky didn't fall, the debts got paid, the sun came up just like it
normally does and people didn't get debt-tax slavery.

See, Obama is a liar. A fraud, a big mouthed jack ass. If he doubled
EVERYONES federal income taxes, rich, everyone, he is still bankrupt.
Raising just the rich taxes, well, ****ing in the ocean has about the
same effect. Just blame deflection from a jive talking ass hole. But
good for you herd animals that don't think clearly.

Fact is Obama Obomba'ed the US government. Now time to stop the willful
debt destruction of the US.

Fact is on August 2nd, Obama might actually have to pay real money to
the debt, before paying Michelle's 50+ personal butt kissers. Then
decide which 50% of government he has to shut down. Sort of like a home
debtor, take away the credit card.

Fact is, default is Obama's choice, it always has been. Even post Aug
2, default does not occur if Obama pays his debt service before his
opulence.

US should do it like Belgium. Just shut down whole hunks of government,
big scale backs on others, and try a smaller, leaner and less up your
ass big fat government.

What government is really worried about is people might discover that
government needs the people more than the people need the government.

--
Obama and the fleabaggers, installing debt-tax slavery
to unborn Americans, and ruination of the American economy
with DEBT.

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:45:52 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/07/2011 4:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

Actual the criminals could sell you anything. QE is criminal fraud
screwing you.

Fact is no one lends money to the US government any more, they haven't
since Sept 2008. What really happens is Bernanke creates new no value
fraud money, then buys treasuries through Goldman Sachs that buys them
from the government. Makes Goldman Sachs rich, screws the people with
inflation and fraud and unemployment rises.

Get over it, Obomba bombed the US in DEBT. And that very debt is
unemployed people. Why buy a property in the US with the debt-tax
hammer over your head? Or invest there? Fact is, DEBT is the problem.

Obama will not default unless his bailout buddies are more important
than paying his debts. August 2nd just means pay as you go. Obama just
has to cut the parts of governemtn that don't mater to the people.

Belgium did this about a year ago, shutdown pretty much 90% of
government, the majority of people are over the FUD and now want it
permanent. Yep, they massively shrunk their federal government to next
to nothing.

The sky didn't fall, the debts got paid, the sun came up just like it
normally does and people didn't get debt-tax slavery.

See, Obama is a liar. A fraud, a big mouthed jack ass. If he doubled
EVERYONES federal income taxes, rich, everyone, he is still bankrupt.
Raising just the rich taxes, well, ****ing in the ocean has about the
same effect. Just blame deflection from a jive talking ass hole. But
good for you herd animals that don't think clearly.

Fact is Obama Obomba'ed the US government. Now time to stop the willful
debt destruction of the US.

Fact is on August 2nd, Obama might actually have to pay real money to
the debt, before paying Michelle's 50+ personal butt kissers. Then
decide which 50% of government he has to shut down. Sort of like a home
debtor, take away the credit card.

Fact is, default is Obama's choice, it always has been. Even post Aug
2, default does not occur if Obama pays his debt service before his
opulence.

US should do it like Belgium. Just shut down whole hunks of government,
big scale backs on others, and try a smaller, leaner and less up your
ass big fat government.

What government is really worried about is people might discover that
government needs the people more than the people need the government.

Fact.. you're an imbecile.

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:15:52 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 14/07/2011 7:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:22:28 -0600,
wrote:

On 13/07/2011 6:40 PM, L G wrote:
wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html
Obama maxed out the credit card. He FAILED.

Depends, was bankrupting USA and mortgaging future generations with
debt-taxation to newborns his objective? Then I would say he was doing
pretty darned good job.

Fleabagers don't realize job creating investors see the pending
debt-taxation comng, the statism tax greed.

taxes are the lowest in 60 years.

Ya so? And employment taxes now exceed income tax. Your point?

DUH!! the radical right assertion that we're overtaxed is nonsense and
what are 'employment' taxes? you dont know much about the US do you?


Oh, you mean 2006 congress money print fraud caused unemployment so now
fewer jobs, lower incomes reducing income tax to less than 60% of 2006
values. And as if unemployed are paying taxes.

oh you mean the GOP congresses in 2001 and 2003 gave the rich a HUGE
tax cut...then spent a trillion on a war

but you thknk this had no effect...none...on the economy

yep. you say that 'cuz obama's

black


Yep, your blind GREED is astounding. Just debt leaches, I now know why
debt that isn't honoired is considered a sin in both the bible and in
the Islam. Good part about Islam, the practice is honor your debts or
loose your head.

In America's case, there will be masses of poor, working poor and those
well off without debt. But many with money will leave. Some already
have ;).

the rich have bankrupted americ a

and his solution?

bankrupt the middle class to protect the rich

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:45:52 -0600, Canuck57
wrote


On 11/07/2011 4:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

Actual the criminals could sell you anything. QE is criminal fraud
screwing you.

Fact is no one lends money to the US government any more,

really. well let's see what the facts are shall we? then we'll see if
your right wing bull**** is just more delusions. oh!! what have we in
the news today:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43823659...s-real_estate/

investors have been flocking to dollar-based investments including
U.S. Treasuries, because euro-based securities seeem riskier. Even as
a potential U.S. default looms, the odds seem lower than a default in
Europe. It’s like living in the nicest house in a bad neighborhood.

GEE!! what a surprise!! canuck is an asshole blowing right wng
bull****!

Get over it, Obomba bombed the US in DEBT. A

gee. bush spent a trillion on a war. but the right wing klan clown
thinks this had no effect on the deficit


See, Obama is a liar. A fraud, a big mouthed jack ass.

let's see...canuck has it all figured out. he lied above...hasnt a
clue about ANYTHING in the world BUT he knows the

black

president is a disaster


If he doubled
EVERYONES federal income taxes, rich, everyone, he is still bankrupt.
Raising just the rich taxes, well, ****ing in the ocean has about the
same effect. Just blame deflection from a jive talking ass hole. But
good for you herd animals that don't think clearly.

funny that the right have ONLY tax cuts for the rich in midn. if
RAISING their taxes doesnt do anything because they have no money, why
does CUTTING their taxes do anything?

oh. it's right wing theology.

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On 20/07/2011 5:02 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:15:52 -0600,
wrote:

On 14/07/2011 7:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:22:28 -0600,
wrote:

On 13/07/2011 6:40 PM, L G wrote:
wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html
Obama maxed out the credit card. He FAILED.

Depends, was bankrupting USA and mortgaging future generations with
debt-taxation to newborns his objective? Then I would say he was doing
pretty darned good job.

Fleabagers don't realize job creating investors see the pending
debt-taxation comng, the statism tax greed.

taxes are the lowest in 60 years.

Ya so? And employment taxes now exceed income tax. Your point?

DUH!! the radical right assertion that we're overtaxed is nonsense and
what are 'employment' taxes? you dont know much about the US do you?


Oh, you mean 2006 congress money print fraud caused unemployment so now
fewer jobs, lower incomes reducing income tax to less than 60% of 2006
values. And as if unemployed are paying taxes.

oh you mean the GOP congresses in 2001 and 2003 gave the rich a HUGE
tax cut...then spent a trillion on a war

but you thknk this had no effect...none...on the economy

yep. you say that 'cuz obama's

black


Yep, your blind GREED is astounding. Just debt leaches, I now know why
debt that isn't honoired is considered a sin in both the bible and in
the Islam. Good part about Islam, the practice is honor your debts or
loose your head.

In America's case, there will be masses of poor, working poor and those
well off without debt. But many with money will leave. Some already
have ;).

the rich have bankrupted americ a

and his solution?

bankrupt the middle class to protect the rich

Voters did. They voted greed, debt based promises, lived beyond their
means and now credit is running out. USD is being devalued in
anticipation for more fraud money print by US Fed criminals....

Vote more conservative and for smaller less screwed up and less corrupt
government.
--
What government fears the most is that the people correctly learn that
they need government less than the government needs them.
Say no more debt, no more debt-slave taxes. Economic freedom matters too!

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On 20/07/2011 5:07 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:45:52 -0600,
wrote


On 11/07/2011 4:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
turns out it is good for jobs. of course, the right wing hates america
and wants it destroyed so they're killing jobs:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....f-the-day.html

Actual the criminals could sell you anything. QE is criminal fraud
screwing you.

Fact is no one lends money to the US government any more,

really. well let's see what the facts are shall we? then we'll see if
your right wing bull**** is just more delusions. oh!! what have we in
the news today:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43823659...s-real_estate/

investors have been flocking to dollar-based investments including
U.S. Treasuries, because euro-based securities seeem riskier. Even as
a potential U.S. default looms, the odds seem lower than a default in
Europe. It’s like living in the nicest house in a bad neighborhood.

GEE!! what a surprise!! canuck is an asshole blowing right wng
bull****!

Get over it, Obomba bombed the US in DEBT. A

gee. bush spent a trillion on a war. but the right wing klan clown
thinks this had no effect on the deficit


See, Obama is a liar. A fraud, a big mouthed jack ass.

let's see...canuck has it all figured out. he lied above...hasnt a
clue about ANYTHING in the world BUT he knows the

black

president is a disaster


If he doubled
EVERYONES federal income taxes, rich, everyone, he is still bankrupt.
Raising just the rich taxes, well, ****ing in the ocean has about the
same effect. Just blame deflection from a jive talking ass hole. But
good for you herd animals that don't think clearly.

funny that the right have ONLY tax cuts for the rich in midn. if
RAISING their taxes doesnt do anything because they have no money, why
does CUTTING their taxes do anything?

oh. it's right wing theology.

Tax cuts and increases are not the answer. The problem is DEBT and the
accumulation of DEBT. Basically 80% of the states and the fed are
spending well past their means. It is also low fraud interest rates.
The very holy grail the the delinquent debtor, low rates caused the
decrease in revenues.

It will fail one way or another. Too late to stop it short of a
balanced budget. Anything less, and my last investments get liquidated
and one less investor in USA fraud. While I yanked most out in 2004-06,
there is some left.

--
What government fears the most is that the people correctly learn that
they need government less than the government needs them.
Say no more debt, no more debt-slave taxes. Economic freedom matters too!

is stimulus spending good for america?
 

On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:41:30 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 20/07/2011 5:02 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:15:52 -0600,
wrote:


Yep, your blind GREED is astounding. Just debt leaches, I now know why
debt that isn't honoired is considered a sin in both the bible and in
the Islam. Good part about Islam, the practice is honor your debts or
loose your head.

In America's case, there will be masses of poor, working poor and those
well off without debt. But many with money will leave. Some already
have ;).

the rich have bankrupted americ a

and his solution?

bankrupt the middle class to protect the rich

Voters did. They voted greed, debt based promises,

yep, they voted bush in twice, and a GOP congress for 6 years. taht's
greed


Vote more conservative and for smaller less screwed up and less corrupt
government.


HHAHAHAAH conservatives are the BIGGEST SPENDERS in history!