It is a really, really sad day for the paddling community.

David H. Johnston

---------------------------------
From the myKawartha.com website:
http://www.mykawartha.com/ka/news/pe...tory/1425747p-
1677991c.html

Canoe museum up the creek
By: Lance Anderson

The river of money that kept the Canadian Canoe Museum afloat has all but
dried up.

On Wednesday, the national heritage museum located in the former Outboard
Marine building in Peterborough locked its doors indefinitely. That
development left many holding nothing but a paddle.

The news sprung a rumour that the museum and its exhibits will move to
Ottawa to join the hub of other heritage attractions in the nation's
capital. But Jon Grant , chair of the museum's board of trustees, says he
hasn't been approached formally about such a move, adding he will fight
to keep the exhibits here.

""It should stay in Peterborough for three reasons," he says.

"It's a terrific tourism area, it's the centre of canoe-making
historically and it's the centre of Champlain's exploration routes."

But he admits Peterborough can no longer sustain a museum of this size
and that's the main reason the doors were locked Wednesday at 5 p.m. The
closing also puts a halt to the Outdoor Learning Centre project slated to
open at the Monaghan Road site.

Dr. Don Curtis , the museum's acting chair, says a "cash flow" problem
forced administration to close the doors to the public to help save on
operating costs.

In the meantime, all exhibits will remain in the building and security
measures will be taken.

"We have trouble with the operation dollars," he adds.

"We made good progress up to 2001 in terms of people through the door and
donations but we've had reduced visitors, but that's no excuse."

Museum staff witnessed a 40 per cent drop in visitors this summer -- a
number, says Dr. Curtis, that's hard to recover from.

In order for the museum to re-open and be viable, Mr. Grant says the
federal government must give the Canadian Canoe Museum regular supporting
grants to pay for operating costs.

He adds similar grants are given to other national museums.

MP Peter Adams says he will look into helping the museum get back on its
feet through government funding but he can't make any promises.

He says the government did hand out a $1 million grant in 1996 to kick-
start the operation.

The City of Peterborough even gave the museum tax-free status when it
opened to lower operating costs, says Mayor Sylvia Sutherland .

Since then, the Peterborough attraction has been operating on donations
and admission revenue, not nearly enough to sustain the business, says
Mr. Grant.

He says closing the museum and laying off the six full-time staff members
will help save money to pay off creditors.

Dr. Curtis isn't sure how long the canoe museum will be closed but
maintains it's "temporary."

"It's not closed for good. We need to deal with our operations a
different way than we've done in the past.

"We call it restructuring."

Shedding light on how much it costs to run a museum, Dr. Curtis says for
example, insurance to cover the irreplaceable exhibits is approximately
$60,000 per year.

He says that's on top of employees' salaries.

The organization has been given hundreds of thousands of dollars in
grants over the years but that money is allotted for certain projects.

More than the employees are affected by this closure.

Hundreds of volunteers donated hundreds of hours to make the museum what
it is and the news has shocked most.

"It's sad it had to come to this...I didn't see it coming," says Dick
Persson , a long-time volunteer and owner of a canoe-making company in
Buckhorn.

"But there were money problems all the time because a museum of this
magnitude was operating the way it was."

He adds to lay-off staff and shut down the museum's web site without
hardly any notice was a "drastic move."

Regardless of what happens, Mr. Persson will continue to work to re-open
the museum and keep it in Peterborough.

Dr. Curtis says within two months. the museum's administrators should
have a plan in place.

"The board will work diligently to make it a go," he adds.

"We will come out of this much more responsible."

If the exhibits are truly "irreplaceble" How is the insurance award to the
Museum to be used?

Retirement funds for the employees?

John Adams

"akasharkbow" wrote in message
s.com...
It is a really, really sad day for the paddling community.

David H. Johnston

---------------------------------
From the myKawartha.com website:
http://www.mykawartha.com/ka/news/pe...tory/1425747p-
1677991c.html

Canoe museum up the creek
By: Lance Anderson

The river of money that kept the Canadian Canoe Museum afloat has all but
dried up.

On Wednesday, the national heritage museum located in the former Outboard
Marine building in Peterborough locked its doors indefinitely. That
development left many holding nothing but a paddle.

The news sprung a rumour that the museum and its exhibits will move to
Ottawa to join the hub of other heritage attractions in the nation's
capital. But Jon Grant , chair of the museum's board of trustees, says he
hasn't been approached formally about such a move, adding he will fight
to keep the exhibits here.

""It should stay in Peterborough for three reasons," he says.

"It's a terrific tourism area, it's the centre of canoe-making
historically and it's the centre of Champlain's exploration routes."

But he admits Peterborough can no longer sustain a museum of this size
and that's the main reason the doors were locked Wednesday at 5 p.m. The
closing also puts a halt to the Outdoor Learning Centre project slated to
open at the Monaghan Road site.

Dr. Don Curtis , the museum's acting chair, says a "cash flow" problem
forced administration to close the doors to the public to help save on
operating costs.

In the meantime, all exhibits will remain in the building and security
measures will be taken.

"We have trouble with the operation dollars," he adds.

"We made good progress up to 2001 in terms of people through the door and
donations but we've had reduced visitors, but that's no excuse."

Museum staff witnessed a 40 per cent drop in visitors this summer -- a
number, says Dr. Curtis, that's hard to recover from.

In order for the museum to re-open and be viable, Mr. Grant says the
federal government must give the Canadian Canoe Museum regular supporting
grants to pay for operating costs.

He adds similar grants are given to other national museums.

MP Peter Adams says he will look into helping the museum get back on its
feet through government funding but he can't make any promises.

He says the government did hand out a $1 million grant in 1996 to kick-
start the operation.

The City of Peterborough even gave the museum tax-free status when it
opened to lower operating costs, says Mayor Sylvia Sutherland .

Since then, the Peterborough attraction has been operating on donations
and admission revenue, not nearly enough to sustain the business, says
Mr. Grant.

He says closing the museum and laying off the six full-time staff members
will help save money to pay off creditors.

Dr. Curtis isn't sure how long the canoe museum will be closed but
maintains it's "temporary."

"It's not closed for good. We need to deal with our operations a
different way than we've done in the past.

"We call it restructuring."

Shedding light on how much it costs to run a museum, Dr. Curtis says for
example, insurance to cover the irreplaceable exhibits is approximately
$60,000 per year.

He says that's on top of employees' salaries.

The organization has been given hundreds of thousands of dollars in
grants over the years but that money is allotted for certain projects.

More than the employees are affected by this closure.

Hundreds of volunteers donated hundreds of hours to make the museum what
it is and the news has shocked most.

"It's sad it had to come to this...I didn't see it coming," says Dick
Persson , a long-time volunteer and owner of a canoe-making company in
Buckhorn.

"But there were money problems all the time because a museum of this
magnitude was operating the way it was."

He adds to lay-off staff and shut down the museum's web site without
hardly any notice was a "drastic move."

Regardless of what happens, Mr. Persson will continue to work to re-open
the museum and keep it in Peterborough.

Dr. Curtis says within two months. the museum's administrators should
have a plan in place.

"The board will work diligently to make it a go," he adds.

"We will come out of this much more responsible."

Thanks for sharing the information David. I have posted a link to the story
on www.CanoeBC.ca I have also posted the Honourable Sheila Copps, Minister
of Culture, email address, It would be a good thing for the Canadian
Government to get involved on a continuing basis in preserving and promoting
this unique museum.

Perhaps other members of the international paddling community will lend
their voices.

Sincerely,
Carey Robson
Master Instructor - Recreational Canoeing Association of British Columbia
Administrator - www.CanoeBC.ca

"akasharkbow" wrote in message
s.com...
It is a really, really sad day for the paddling community.

David H. Johnston

The museum also maintained a wonderful web site with much information about
canoeing. That site seems to be shut down as well.

Tommy T.

That is really sad - a great place to visit. Having said that I couldn't
work out why it was located in Peterborough - bit out of the way really,
esp. for foreign visitors like me.

Carol Haynes

"Tommy T." wrote in message
...

The museum also maintained a wonderful web site with much information
about
canoeing. That site seems to be shut down as well.

Tommy T.

It's unfortunate that they closed but.......they DID NOTHING for the canoe
public and were VERY uncooperative in giving up information for research.
Everything was top secrect and "too busy" or "won't help"
Looks` good on them.
The board had to clean house !!!!!!!

"Carey Robson" wrote in message
news:uuWjb.34928$S_.28842@clgrps13...
Thanks for sharing the information David. I have posted a link to the
story
on www.CanoeBC.ca I have also posted the Honourable Sheila Copps, Minister
of Culture, email address, It would be a good thing for the Canadian
Government to get involved on a continuing basis in preserving and
promoting
this unique museum.

Perhaps other members of the international paddling community will lend
their voices.

Sincerely,
Carey Robson
Master Instructor - Recreational Canoeing Association of British Columbia
Administrator - www.CanoeBC.ca

"akasharkbow" wrote in message
s.com...
It is a really, really sad day for the paddling community.

David H. Johnston

Long thread in CCR forum about the closu

http://www.myccr.com/SectionForums/viewtopic.php?t=6764

It's a shame, but the semi-gritty urban location (I know, I know,
Peterborugh was the *center* of Canadian Canoe making and all) wasn't
exactly along a general tourist route or one frequented by paddlers.
If you visited the Canadian Canoe Museum you probably sought it out
specifically and didn't just happen upon it on a day when you had time
to visit, or go there on the spur of the moment to fritter away a
rainy day.

The difference was apparent on mid-summer (July) visits to the
Canadian Canoe Museum and the Adirondack Museum in Blue Mountain Lake.
The Adirondack Museum was so crowded we decided to skip even going in
- at the Canadian Canoe Museum the number of visitors more than
doubled when I went in with my wife and two sons.

While I certainly enjoyed the Canadian Canoe Museum for the laid back
and uncrowded nature of our visitI could imagine how it could stay
open with so few paying customers.

The museum need to go (relocate) to where the visitors are (can you
say "somewhere near Algonquin Park?)

I visited this area of Canada in the summer, but never got around to seeing
the museum.

If the museum were in Huntsville (near Algonquin) it would go down a storm
with visitors.

It would also go down well if it were at Upper Canada Village which is an
open air museum not that far away from Peterborough.

Mark (in London, UK)
"Mike McCrea" wrote in message
om...
Long thread in CCR forum about the closu

http://www.myccr.com/SectionForums/viewtopic.php?t=6764

It's a shame, but the semi-gritty urban location (I know, I know,
Peterborugh was the *center* of Canadian Canoe making and all) wasn't
exactly along a general tourist route or one frequented by paddlers.
If you visited the Canadian Canoe Museum you probably sought it out
specifically and didn't just happen upon it on a day when you had time
to visit, or go there on the spur of the moment to fritter away a
rainy day.

The difference was apparent on mid-summer (July) visits to the
Canadian Canoe Museum and the Adirondack Museum in Blue Mountain Lake.
The Adirondack Museum was so crowded we decided to skip even going in
- at the Canadian Canoe Museum the number of visitors more than
doubled when I went in with my wife and two sons.

While I certainly enjoyed the Canadian Canoe Museum for the laid back
and uncrowded nature of our visitI could imagine how it could stay
open with so few paying customers.

The museum need to go (relocate) to where the visitors are (can you
say "somewhere near Algonquin Park?)

SARS and anti-terrorist lineups have made people reluctant to travel
via Toronto. they need new theme "Paddle to Peterborough".

akasharkbow ) writes:
It is a really, really sad day for the paddling community.

David H. Johnston

---------------------------------
From the myKawartha.com website:
http://www.mykawartha.com/ka/news/pe...tory/1425747p-
1677991c.html

Canoe museum up the creek
By: Lance Anderson

The river of money that kept the Canadian Canoe Museum afloat has all but
dried up.

On Wednesday, the national heritage museum located in the former Outboard
Marine building in Peterborough locked its doors indefinitely. That
development left many holding nothing but a paddle.

The news sprung a rumour that the museum and its exhibits will move to
Ottawa to join the hub of other heritage attractions in the nation's
capital. But Jon Grant , chair of the museum's board of trustees, says he
hasn't been approached formally about such a move, adding he will fight
to keep the exhibits here.

""It should stay in Peterborough for three reasons," he says.

"It's a terrific tourism area, it's the centre of canoe-making
historically and it's the centre of Champlain's exploration routes."

But he admits Peterborough can no longer sustain a museum of this size
and that's the main reason the doors were locked Wednesday at 5 p.m. The
closing also puts a halt to the Outdoor Learning Centre project slated to
open at the Monaghan Road site.

Dr. Don Curtis , the museum's acting chair, says a "cash flow" problem
forced administration to close the doors to the public to help save on
operating costs.

In the meantime, all exhibits will remain in the building and security
measures will be taken.

"We have trouble with the operation dollars," he adds.

"We made good progress up to 2001 in terms of people through the door and
donations but we've had reduced visitors, but that's no excuse."

Museum staff witnessed a 40 per cent drop in visitors this summer -- a
number, says Dr. Curtis, that's hard to recover from.

In order for the museum to re-open and be viable, Mr. Grant says the
federal government must give the Canadian Canoe Museum regular supporting
grants to pay for operating costs.

He adds similar grants are given to other national museums.

MP Peter Adams says he will look into helping the museum get back on its
feet through government funding but he can't make any promises.

He says the government did hand out a $1 million grant in 1996 to kick-
start the operation.

The City of Peterborough even gave the museum tax-free status when it
opened to lower operating costs, says Mayor Sylvia Sutherland .

Since then, the Peterborough attraction has been operating on donations
and admission revenue, not nearly enough to sustain the business, says
Mr. Grant.

He says closing the museum and laying off the six full-time staff members
will help save money to pay off creditors.

Dr. Curtis isn't sure how long the canoe museum will be closed but
maintains it's "temporary."

"It's not closed for good. We need to deal with our operations a
different way than we've done in the past.

"We call it restructuring."

Shedding light on how much it costs to run a museum, Dr. Curtis says for
example, insurance to cover the irreplaceable exhibits is approximately
$60,000 per year.

He says that's on top of employees' salaries.

The organization has been given hundreds of thousands of dollars in
grants over the years but that money is allotted for certain projects.

More than the employees are affected by this closure.

Hundreds of volunteers donated hundreds of hours to make the museum what
it is and the news has shocked most.

"It's sad it had to come to this...I didn't see it coming," says Dick
Persson , a long-time volunteer and owner of a canoe-making company in
Buckhorn.

"But there were money problems all the time because a museum of this
magnitude was operating the way it was."

He adds to lay-off staff and shut down the museum's web site without
hardly any notice was a "drastic move."

Regardless of what happens, Mr. Persson will continue to work to re-open
the museum and keep it in Peterborough.

Dr. Curtis says within two months. the museum's administrators should
have a plan in place.

"The board will work diligently to make it a go," he adds.

"We will come out of this much more responsible."


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On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:20:57 GMT, akasharkbow
wrote:
The river of money that kept the Canadian Canoe Museum afloat has all but
dried up.

On Wednesday, the national heritage museum located in the former Outboard
Marine building in Peterborough locked its doors indefinitely.

A tremendous loss to the canoeing community. That was a GREAT
facility. Large, well done. One-of-a-kind canoes and artifacts.
Educational. I certainly did MY part to keep it open at the gift
shop. All canoeists should hope a way can be found to keep the
museum going. Tom McCloud