On 6/27/11 10:35 AM, Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:54:45 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 20:24:00 -0400,
wrote:

On 6/25/11 7:48 PM, Richard Casady wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 11:57:01 -0400,
wrote:

On 6/25/11 11:09 AM, Richard Casady wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 08:43:17 -0400, wrote:

On 6/24/2011 11:52 PM, North Star wrote:
I say what I mean and I mean what I say!
It's known as gyproc up here... and since we have the gypsum mines

Mate, Gyproc is a trademark of an Australian sheetrock manufacturer.

Yes, and Sheetrock is the trademark of a US manufacturer of gypsum
board.

Casady

It's one of those trademarks that has slipped into general usage.

I had a 1939 book on how to drive tunnels. It referred to the common
90 pound vertical drilling hammer as a JackHammerTM [Ingersoll Rand],
some forty years after it was introduced. Now half the jackhammer
users don't even know who Ingersoll Rand is.

Casady


Here's a bit of history. In Germany and many other countries, Aspirin is
still a trademark of Bayer. But after WW I, Germany (and Bayer) lost the
trademark for aspirin in the US, Russia, England and one or two other
countries as a part of war reparations.

I always heard that they lost it from lack of sufficient effort to
defend it. The same people that invented aspirin invented heroin at
almost exactly the same time, late eighties, if I recall. I. G. Farben
I believe.

Casady

Reply:
No, Bayer figured out how to "buffer" aspirin. Aspirin has been known, but
not as aspirin for 1000's of years. Was willow bark in ancient times.

Wrong. They invented the stuff. Salicilic acid from willliow, or
anywhere else is not aspirin, anymore than that other acetyl
derivitive of an ancient painkiller, heroin, is morphine.

Casady



Another trademarked word that has come into common, uncapitalized,
non-trademarked usage:

kleenex.



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In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...

On 6/27/11 10:35 AM, Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:54:45 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 20:24:00 -0400,
wrote:

On 6/25/11 7:48 PM, Richard Casady wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 11:57:01 -0400,
wrote:

On 6/25/11 11:09 AM, Richard Casady wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 08:43:17 -0400, wrote:

On 6/24/2011 11:52 PM, North Star wrote:
I say what I mean and I mean what I say!
It's known as gyproc up here... and since we have the gypsum mines

Mate, Gyproc is a trademark of an Australian sheetrock manufacturer.

Yes, and Sheetrock is the trademark of a US manufacturer of gypsum
board.

Casady

It's one of those trademarks that has slipped into general usage.

I had a 1939 book on how to drive tunnels. It referred to the common
90 pound vertical drilling hammer as a JackHammerTM [Ingersoll Rand],
some forty years after it was introduced. Now half the jackhammer
users don't even know who Ingersoll Rand is.

Casady


Here's a bit of history. In Germany and many other countries, Aspirin is
still a trademark of Bayer. But after WW I, Germany (and Bayer) lost the
trademark for aspirin in the US, Russia, England and one or two other
countries as a part of war reparations.

I always heard that they lost it from lack of sufficient effort to
defend it. The same people that invented aspirin invented heroin at
almost exactly the same time, late eighties, if I recall. I. G. Farben
I believe.

Casady

Reply:
No, Bayer figured out how to "buffer" aspirin. Aspirin has been known, but
not as aspirin for 1000's of years. Was willow bark in ancient times.

Wrong. They invented the stuff. Salicilic acid from willliow, or
anywhere else is not aspirin, anymore than that other acetyl
derivitive of an ancient painkiller, heroin, is morphine.

Casady



Another trademarked word that has come into common, uncapitalized,
non-trademarked usage:

kleenex.

google

North Star wrote:
On Jun 24, 4:01 pm, wrote:

In article8fb10754-4efa-464a-bbde-31d9578e7fa6
@x12g2000yql.googlegroups.com, says...








On Jun 24, 9:26 am, wrote:

In articlea2903b68-36c9-456c-a1b2-0328cf067dc9
@k16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, says...


On Jun 23, 5:30 pm, wrote:

On 6/23/11 4:25 PM, Wayne B wrote:


On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:26:44 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:


In ,
says...


On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:24:20 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:


I did get co poison once, working at a site but I noticed as soon as I
started to feel a bit "drunk" and got out.


If you get that feeling you are dangerously close to losing
conciousness and being fatally overcome.


Could be, my bud didn't think I was bad enough to go to the ER but who
knows, it was twenty years ago iirc... Took a couple of hours to feel
better in the fresh air that much I do remember. Never worked around a
salamander type heater again after that, no matter what the boss said.


=====


What is a "salamander type heater"?


I remember them as a fairly tall cylindrical space heater, fired by
kerosene. I remember them because when my father built his retail store,
he used a couple of them to help cure the concrete floor, which was
poured in the winter. I was just a little kid, but I do remember them
being referred to as salamanders. They were operated before the showroom
glass was installed...the store was open to the elements where the
windows and doors would go.


They gave off a hell of a lot of heat.


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My gyproc installing in-laws had a few... i remember one being left in
my new Cape Cod style house to help dry the drywall mud in January/
February of 1976.
The one I remember was more like a yellow torpedo..noisy fan blown hot
air and burning kerosine oil as fuel.
Of course that was 35 years ago.... they may be different now.


What is "gyproc", moron?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


If you don't know, jackass... I'm not going to tell you.

Do you mean gypsum board by any chance? Or as a brand name, Sheetrock?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I say what I mean and I mean what I say!
It's known as gyproc up here... and since we have the gypsum mines
that the stuff is made of...we'll call it what we want.

OK, dummy.

Harryk wrote:
On 6/25/11 11:09 AM, Richard Casady wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 08:43:17 -0400, wrote:

On 6/24/2011 11:52 PM, North Star wrote:
I say what I mean and I mean what I say!
It's known as gyproc up here... and since we have the gypsum mines

Mate, Gyproc is a trademark of an Australian sheetrock manufacturer.

Yes, and Sheetrock is the trademark of a US manufacturer of gypsum
board.

Casady

It's one of those trademarks that has slipped into general usage.

No, it hasn't.

Jay wrote:
On 6/25/2011 12:25 PM, iBoat wrote:
In articleadd03db8-3261-472f-8af6-a8a7460a43d4
@d22g2000yqn.googlegroups.com, says...

On Jun 25, 12:18 pm, wrote:
On 6/25/11 11:09 AM, Richard Casady wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 08:43:17 -0400, wrote:

On 6/24/2011 11:52 PM, North Star wrote:
I say what I mean and I mean what I say!
It's known as gyproc up here... and since we have the gypsum mines

Mate, Gyproc is a trademark of an Australian sheetrock manufacturer.

Yes, and Sheetrock is the trademark of a US manufacturer of gypsum
board.

Casady

gyproc is also a product name of a large, french-based conglomerate
that
produces gypsum board in many places around the world, including
Canada.

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These idiots are unbelievable.... they think the whole world revolves
around the US... and we should all be talking 'merican!
Are they in for a rude awakening the next 10-20 years!

Okay, every piece of gypsum board is Gyproc? Like every car ever made is
a Chevy? Are you really that ****ing stupid?

In the interest of promoting peace between our two great countries,
why don't we just call it wallboard?
Drywall is the accepted generic term here.

Harryk wrote:
On 6/25/11 4:20 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 25, 2:03 pm, wrote:
On 6/25/2011 12:25 PM, iBoat wrote:





In articleadd03db8-3261-472f-8af6-a8a7460a43d4
@d22g2000yqn.googlegroups.com, says...

On Jun 25, 12:18 pm, wrote:
On 6/25/11 11:09 AM, Richard Casady wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 08:43:17 -0400, wrote:

On 6/24/2011 11:52 PM, North Star wrote:
I say what I mean and I mean what I say!
It's known as gyproc up here... and since we have the gypsum
mines

Mate, Gyproc is a trademark of an Australian sheetrock
manufacturer.

Yes, and Sheetrock is the trademark of a US manufacturer of gypsum
board.

Casady

gyproc is also a product name of a large, french-based
conglomerate that
produces gypsum board in many places around the world, including
Canada.

--
Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where
personal insults are not allowed?

http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing

These idiots are unbelievable.... they think the whole world
revolves
around the US... and we should all be talking 'merican!
Are they in for a rude awakening the next 10-20 years!

Okay, every piece of gypsum board is Gyproc? Like every car ever
made is
a Chevy? Are you really that ****ing stupid?

In the interest of promoting peace between our two great countries, why
don't we just call it wallboard?- Hide quoted text -

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Call it what you want.
I have 4 in-laws that are/were in the trade since the mid sixties and
now have a nephew that owns a major local company.
They always called themselves gyproc'rs. Good enough for me!

It wouldn't matter what you called it...the loogy dopers would argue
with you about it. It's their reason for existing.



This, from a guy who argues about everything?

In article ,
says...

North Star wrote:
On Jun 24, 4:01 pm, wrote:

In article8fb10754-4efa-464a-bbde-31d9578e7fa6
@x12g2000yql.googlegroups.com, says...








On Jun 24, 9:26 am, wrote:

In articlea2903b68-36c9-456c-a1b2-0328cf067dc9
@k16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, says...


On Jun 23, 5:30 pm, wrote:

On 6/23/11 4:25 PM, Wayne B wrote:


On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:26:44 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:


In ,
says...


On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:24:20 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:


I did get co poison once, working at a site but I noticed as soon as I
started to feel a bit "drunk" and got out.


If you get that feeling you are dangerously close to losing
conciousness and being fatally overcome.


Could be, my bud didn't think I was bad enough to go to the ER but who
knows, it was twenty years ago iirc... Took a couple of hours to feel
better in the fresh air that much I do remember. Never worked around a
salamander type heater again after that, no matter what the boss said.


=====


What is a "salamander type heater"?


I remember them as a fairly tall cylindrical space heater, fired by
kerosene. I remember them because when my father built his retail store,
he used a couple of them to help cure the concrete floor, which was
poured in the winter. I was just a little kid, but I do remember them
being referred to as salamanders. They were operated before the showroom
glass was installed...the store was open to the elements where the
windows and doors would go.


They gave off a hell of a lot of heat.


--
Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where
personal insults are not allowed?


http://groups.google.com/group/rec-b...ing-Hidequoted text -


- Show quoted text -


My gyproc installing in-laws had a few... i remember one being left in
my new Cape Cod style house to help dry the drywall mud in January/
February of 1976.
The one I remember was more like a yellow torpedo..noisy fan blown hot
air and burning kerosine oil as fuel.
Of course that was 35 years ago.... they may be different now.


What is "gyproc", moron?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


If you don't know, jackass... I'm not going to tell you.

Do you mean gypsum board by any chance? Or as a brand name, Sheetrock?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I say what I mean and I mean what I say!
It's known as gyproc up here... and since we have the gypsum mines
that the stuff is made of...we'll call it what we want.

OK, dummy.

Damn, I missed that part where he's saying that they "have the gypsum
mines"...... like there's no other gypsum mines except in Canada!! What
a dumb ass!

On Sun, 3 Jul 2011 09:39:06 -0400, iBoat alot wrote:

In article ,
says...

North Star wrote:
On Jun 24, 4:01 pm, wrote:

In article8fb10754-4efa-464a-bbde-31d9578e7fa6
@x12g2000yql.googlegroups.com, says...








On Jun 24, 9:26 am, wrote:

In articlea2903b68-36c9-456c-a1b2-0328cf067dc9
@k16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, says...


On Jun 23, 5:30 pm, wrote:

On 6/23/11 4:25 PM, Wayne B wrote:


On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:26:44 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:


In ,
says...


On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:24:20 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:


I did get co poison once, working at a site but I noticed as soon as I
started to feel a bit "drunk" and got out.


If you get that feeling you are dangerously close to losing
conciousness and being fatally overcome.


Could be, my bud didn't think I was bad enough to go to the ER but who
knows, it was twenty years ago iirc... Took a couple of hours to feel
better in the fresh air that much I do remember. Never worked around a
salamander type heater again after that, no matter what the boss said.


=====


What is a "salamander type heater"?


I remember them as a fairly tall cylindrical space heater, fired by
kerosene. I remember them because when my father built his retail store,
he used a couple of them to help cure the concrete floor, which was
poured in the winter. I was just a little kid, but I do remember them
being referred to as salamanders. They were operated before the showroom
glass was installed...the store was open to the elements where the
windows and doors would go.


They gave off a hell of a lot of heat.


--
Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where
personal insults are not allowed?


http://groups.google.com/group/rec-b...ing-Hidequoted text -


- Show quoted text -


My gyproc installing in-laws had a few... i remember one being left in
my new Cape Cod style house to help dry the drywall mud in January/
February of 1976.
The one I remember was more like a yellow torpedo..noisy fan blown hot
air and burning kerosine oil as fuel.
Of course that was 35 years ago.... they may be different now.


What is "gyproc", moron?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


If you don't know, jackass... I'm not going to tell you.

Do you mean gypsum board by any chance? Or as a brand name, Sheetrock?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I say what I mean and I mean what I say!
It's known as gyproc up here... and since we have the gypsum mines
that the stuff is made of...we'll call it what we want.

OK, dummy.

Damn, I missed that part where he's saying that they "have the gypsum
mines"...... like there's no other gypsum mines except in Canada!! What
a dumb ass!

New Mexico has the world famous White Sands, which are gypsum and are
much whiter than quartz sand which is generally has slight tinge to
it. Quartz is very hard and will pulverize colored iron minerals and
pick up the color from the dust. The quartz sandblasting sand around
these parts comes from a local underground mine and is blasted and
crushed. This leaves sharp edges, unlike water formed sand. And it is
white, or nearly so. This is the stuff you see in ashtrays.

There are cliffs with the gypsum exposed which supply the sands and it
being soft they don't abrade the regolith.

Casady