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Certainly not the right... scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) – Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. |
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 11:09:50 -0700, jps wrote:
Certainly not the right... scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) – Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. It's even worse than that.. http://www.ucsusa.org/ |
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On Jun 21, 2:09*pm, jps wrote:
Certainly not the right... *scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. *Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) – Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. "All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. " All these caused by human activity? Heard anything about solar activity lately? Tell you what...Send lots of money to Al Gore. He'll fix it. |
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:45:46 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote: On Jun 21, 2:09*pm, jps wrote: Certainly not the right... *scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. *Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) – Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. "All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. " All these caused by human activity? Heard anything about solar activity lately? Tell you what...Send lots of money to Al Gore. He'll fix it. Ohh absolutely, Al Gore will call out Superman to move the killer asteroid into a safe orbit. |
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"Wayne B" wrote in message
... On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:45:46 -0700 (PDT), John H wrote: On Jun 21, 2:09 pm, jps wrote: Certainly not the right... scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) – Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. "All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. " All these caused by human activity? Heard anything about solar activity lately? Tell you what...Send lots of money to Al Gore. He'll fix it. Ohh absolutely, Al Gore will call out Superman to move the killer asteroid into a safe orbit. Reply: Why is it the rights doings? France is overfishing Bluefin, Japanese are overfishing everything. These all right wing countries? |
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:45:46 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote: On Jun 21, 2:09*pm, jps wrote: Certainly not the right... *scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. *Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) – Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. "All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. " All these caused by human activity? Heard anything about solar activity lately? Tell you what...Send lots of money to Al Gore. He'll fix it. Do you not understand the word "conditions"? Do you believe that conditions can only be caused by solar activity? Did they say the other situations were caused by human activity? Feel free to deny what's in your face. Feel free to blame Al Gore for your problems. |
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:12:31 -0400, Wayne B
wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:45:46 -0700 (PDT), John H wrote: On Jun 21, 2:09*pm, jps wrote: Certainly not the right... *scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. *Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) – Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. "All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. " All these caused by human activity? Heard anything about solar activity lately? Tell you what...Send lots of money to Al Gore. He'll fix it. Ohh absolutely, Al Gore will call out Superman to move the killer asteroid into a safe orbit. Maybe Superman can get propane gas to move up current and up a transom also. |
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:35:05 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: "Wayne B" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:45:46 -0700 (PDT), John H wrote: On Jun 21, 2:09 pm, jps wrote: Certainly not the right... scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) – Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. "All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. " All these caused by human activity? Heard anything about solar activity lately? Tell you what...Send lots of money to Al Gore. He'll fix it. Ohh absolutely, Al Gore will call out Superman to move the killer asteroid into a safe orbit. Reply: Why is it the rights doings? France is overfishing Bluefin, Japanese are overfishing everything. These all right wing countries? And this over fishing has what to do with global climate change??? What's the right doing to solve the problems? Oh, I know. Drill baby drill. |
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On Jun 21, 6:56*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:45:46 -0700 (PDT), John H wrote: On Jun 21, 2:09 pm, jps wrote: Certainly not the right... scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. "All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. " All these caused by human activity? Heard anything about solar activity lately? Tell you what...Send lots of money to Al Gore. He'll fix it. Do you not understand the word "conditions"? Do you believe that conditions can only be caused by solar activity? Did they say the other situations were caused by human activity? Feel free to deny what's in your face. Feel free to blame Al Gore for your problems.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I recorded a program last night called 'Prophets of Doom' which has half a dozen men giving their analysis where we (mostly the US) is going. Lets hope they aren't correct. |
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On Jun 21, 5:35*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"Wayne B" *wrote in message ... On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:45:46 -0700 (PDT), John H wrote: On Jun 21, 2:09 pm, jps wrote: Certainly not the right... *scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. *Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) – Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. "All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. " All these caused by human activity? Heard anything about solar activity lately? Tell you what...Send lots of money to Al Gore. He'll fix it. Ohh absolutely, *Al Gore will call out Superman to move the killer asteroid into a safe orbit. Reply: Why is it the rights doings? *France is overfishing Bluefin, Japanese are overfishing everything. *These all right wing countries? The right is causing the sun to heat up. |
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On Jun 21, 5:56*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:45:46 -0700 (PDT), John H wrote: On Jun 21, 2:09 pm, jps wrote: Certainly not the right... scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. "All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. " All these caused by human activity? Heard anything about solar activity lately? Tell you what...Send lots of money to Al Gore. He'll fix it. Do you not understand the word "conditions"? Do you believe that conditions can only be caused by solar activity? Did they say the other situations were caused by human activity? Feel free to deny what's in your face. Feel free to blame Al Gore for your problems. Yeah, many of the conditions now are the same as the conditions then. *TRY READING* Man wasn't around 500 million years ago creating the conditions causing the mass extinctions. I'll bet the sun was. Jeez, no wonder no one will talk to you. Stick with name-calling. |
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:28:53 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote: On Jun 21, 5:56*pm, wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:45:46 -0700 (PDT), John H wrote: On Jun 21, 2:09 pm, jps wrote: Certainly not the right... scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. "All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. " All these caused by human activity? Heard anything about solar activity lately? Tell you what...Send lots of money to Al Gore. He'll fix it. Do you not understand the word "conditions"? Do you believe that conditions can only be caused by solar activity? Did they say the other situations were caused by human activity? Feel free to deny what's in your face. Feel free to blame Al Gore for your problems. Yeah, many of the conditions now are the same as the conditions then. *TRY READING* Man wasn't around 500 million years ago creating the conditions causing the mass extinctions. I'll bet the sun was. Jeez, no wonder no one will talk to you. Stick with name-calling. So, if I say that there's a condition called high blood pressure, then there can be one and only one cause for that condition? Try looking up the word condition: Verb: Have a significant influence on or determine (the manner or outcome of something). Noun: The state of something, esp. with regard to its appearance, quality, or working Jeez, I'm happy to continue to call you what you are if that's what you want. 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On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:11:18 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote: On Jun 21, 5:35*pm, "Califbill" wrote: "Wayne B" *wrote in message ... On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:45:46 -0700 (PDT), John H wrote: On Jun 21, 2:09 pm, jps wrote: Certainly not the right... *scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. *Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) – Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. "All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. " All these caused by human activity? Heard anything about solar activity lately? Tell you what...Send lots of money to Al Gore. He'll fix it. Ohh absolutely, *Al Gore will call out Superman to move the killer asteroid into a safe orbit. Reply: Why is it the rights doings? *France is overfishing Bluefin, Japanese are overfishing everything. *These all right wing countries? The right is causing the sun to heat up. No. The right is inflaming poorly educated people with nonsense science. |
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:28:12 -0400, Wayne B
wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:36:20 -0700, wrote: Yeah, many of the conditions now are the same as the conditions then. *TRY READING* Man wasn't around 500 million years ago creating the conditions causing the mass extinctions. I'll bet the sun was. Jeez, no wonder no one will talk to you. Stick with name-calling. So, if I say that there's a condition called high blood pressure, then there can be one and only one cause for that condition? Try looking up the word condition: Truth is that no one really knows for sure what caused mass instinctions or ice ages in the past. There has been a lot of research and informed speculation but nothing that I'd describe as conclusive. The one thing we know for sure is that past actions of mankind had nothing to do with it. The other thing we know for sure is that large numbers of people in and out of academia are competing for research funding and they are not above releasing a dramatic press release every now and then. Anyone who takes all of these dire pronouncements as gospel needs to get a life. Actually, you're almost right. It's not possible to know with absolute certainty what caused extinctions. There are some good theories (that would be scientific theories, which include forming and testing hypothesis). You can not make a serious claim that the small dollars being spent on climate research in any way influences the overwhelming data on how mankind has affected the environment, esp. when compared to the enormous amount of money big oil and heavy industries are spending to try and debunk or undercut the science with their own dramatic press nonsense and commercials. The vast consensus is that mankind has been negatively influencing the environment since the Industrial Revolution began, and it's generally getting worse not better. Something needs to be done, and we need to start now. Science is not about taking pronouncements as "gospel." In fact, skepticism is the basis for the scientific method. Those not well educated believe that because there is some overblown and ginned up controversy that means the whole notion of adverse, mankind created climate change is in doubt. It isn't. Those not well educated look at a cold winter or a violent storm or whatever and proclaim that there is no such thing as global warming or that it's a fact. It's much more nuance than that. |
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On 6/21/11 8:40 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:28:12 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:36:20 -0700, wrote: Yeah, many of the conditions now are the same as the conditions then. *TRY READING* Man wasn't around 500 million years ago creating the conditions causing the mass extinctions. I'll bet the sun was. Jeez, no wonder no one will talk to you. Stick with name-calling. So, if I say that there's a condition called high blood pressure, then there can be one and only one cause for that condition? Try looking up the word condition: Truth is that no one really knows for sure what caused mass instinctions or ice ages in the past. There has been a lot of research and informed speculation but nothing that I'd describe as conclusive. The one thing we know for sure is that past actions of mankind had nothing to do with it. The other thing we know for sure is that large numbers of people in and out of academia are competing for research funding and they are not above releasing a dramatic press release every now and then. Anyone who takes all of these dire pronouncements as gospel needs to get a life. Actually, you're almost right. It's not possible to know with absolute certainty what caused extinctions. There are some good theories (that would be scientific theories, which include forming and testing hypothesis). You can not make a serious claim that the small dollars being spent on climate research in any way influences the overwhelming data on how mankind has affected the environment, esp. when compared to the enormous amount of money big oil and heavy industries are spending to try and debunk or undercut the science with their own dramatic press nonsense and commercials. The vast consensus is that mankind has been negatively influencing the environment since the Industrial Revolution began, and it's generally getting worse not better. Something needs to be done, and we need to start now. Science is not about taking pronouncements as "gospel." In fact, skepticism is the basis for the scientific method. Those not well educated believe that because there is some overblown and ginned up controversy that means the whole notion of adverse, mankind created climate change is in doubt. It isn't. Those not well educated look at a cold winter or a violent storm or whatever and proclaim that there is no such thing as global warming or that it's a fact. It's much more nuance than that. Anything w'hine posts on this subject matter is colored by the fact that he is a corporate apologist and an investor in oil companies. Obfuscation is part of his apologist's game. |
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On Jun 22, 5:32*am, Harryk wrote:
On 6/21/11 8:40 PM, wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:28:12 -0400, Wayne B *wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:36:20 -0700, wrote: Yeah, many of the conditions now are the same as the conditions then.. *TRY READING* Man wasn't around 500 million years ago creating the conditions causing the mass extinctions. I'll bet the sun was. Jeez, no wonder no one will talk to you. Stick with name-calling. So, if I say that there's a condition called high blood pressure, then there can be one and only one cause for that condition? Try looking up the word condition: Truth is that no one really knows for sure what caused mass instinctions or ice ages in the past. *There has been a lot of research and informed speculation but nothing that I'd describe as conclusive. * The one thing we know for sure is that past actions of mankind had nothing to do with it. * The other thing we know for sure is that large numbers of people in and out of academia are competing for research funding and they are not above releasing a dramatic press release every now and then. *Anyone who takes all of these dire pronouncements as gospel needs to get a life. Actually, you're almost right. It's not possible to know with absolute certainty what caused extinctions. There are some good theories (that would be scientific theories, which include forming and testing hypothesis). You can not make a serious claim that the small dollars being spent on climate research in any way influences the overwhelming data on how mankind has affected the environment, esp. when compared to the enormous amount of money big oil and heavy industries are spending to try and debunk or undercut the science with their own dramatic press nonsense and commercials. The vast consensus is that mankind has been negatively influencing the environment since the Industrial Revolution began, and it's generally getting worse not better. Something needs to be done, and we need to start now. Science is not about taking pronouncements as "gospel." In fact, skepticism is the basis for the scientific method. Those not well educated believe that because there is some overblown and ginned up controversy that means the whole notion of adverse, mankind created climate change is in doubt. It isn't. Those not well educated look at a cold winter or a violent storm or whatever and proclaim that there is no such thing as global warming or that it's a fact. It's much more nuance than that. Anything w'hine posts on this subject matter is colored by the fact that he is a corporate apologist and an investor in oil companies. Obfuscation is part of his apologist's game. Your jealousy of Wayne is showing, Herr Krause. He enjoys life,whilst you stay miserable. You really should do something about that before you turn green like a frog. This is, unless you like it that way. And come to think of it, I'm sure you do. |
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, says... On Jun 21, 2:09*pm, jps wrote: Certainly not the right... *scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. *Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) ? Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. "All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. " All these caused by human activity? Heard anything about solar activity lately? Tell you what...Send lots of money to Al Gore. He'll fix it. Do you really think that because some "mass extinctions" weren't because of man, that that means man can't be a cause of this one? |
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:40:57 -0700, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:28:12 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:36:20 -0700, wrote: Yeah, many of the conditions now are the same as the conditions then. *TRY READING* Man wasn't around 500 million years ago creating the conditions causing the mass extinctions. I'll bet the sun was. Jeez, no wonder no one will talk to you. Stick with name-calling. So, if I say that there's a condition called high blood pressure, then there can be one and only one cause for that condition? Try looking up the word condition: Truth is that no one really knows for sure what caused mass instinctions or ice ages in the past. There has been a lot of research and informed speculation but nothing that I'd describe as conclusive. The one thing we know for sure is that past actions of mankind had nothing to do with it. The other thing we know for sure is that large numbers of people in and out of academia are competing for research funding and they are not above releasing a dramatic press release every now and then. Anyone who takes all of these dire pronouncements as gospel needs to get a life. Actually, you're almost right. It's not possible to know with absolute certainty what caused extinctions. There are some good theories (that would be scientific theories, which include forming and testing hypothesis). You can not make a serious claim that the small dollars being spent on climate research in any way influences the overwhelming data on how mankind has affected the environment, esp. when compared to the enormous amount of money big oil and heavy industries are spending to try and debunk or undercut the science with their own dramatic press nonsense and commercials. The vast consensus is that mankind has been negatively influencing the environment since the Industrial Revolution began, and it's generally getting worse not better. Something needs to be done, and we need to start now. Science is not about taking pronouncements as "gospel." In fact, skepticism is the basis for the scientific method. Those not well educated believe that because there is some overblown and ginned up controversy that means the whole notion of adverse, mankind created climate change is in doubt. It isn't. Those not well educated look at a cold winter or a violent storm or whatever and proclaim that there is no such thing as global warming or that it's a fact. It's much more nuance than that. In typical fashion you have missed the point and changed the subject. For the record: 1. No one knows for sure what caused mass extinctions and ice ages. 2. With the exception of the last ice age, mankind as we know it did not yet exist, ergo, no involvement. Those facts are indsputable. Point #2: A lot of dramatic press releases regarding some new gloom and doom scenario are designed to capture media attention and help gain funding for some narrowly targeted research effort. In the world of science that's called preserving your job. Over and out. |
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On 21/06/2011 12:09 PM, jps wrote:
Certainly not the right... scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) – Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. I wonder why they don't go after the Japanese for willfully dumping radioactive wash down waste into the Pacific? No government money in it? Green is a con job to bilk people for carbon credits and money. -- Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem. |
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On 21/06/2011 1:54 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 11:09:50 -0700, wrote: Certainly not the right... scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) – Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. It's even worse than that.. http://www.ucsusa.org/ News Alert: Weather has been changing for over a billion years, and more of the same is expected in the next billion years. Like any other species before us that has disappeared, our time will come to an end. Over population is the big cause. Too much indiscriminate breading and not enough big wars to keep the population down. Yet over population is the one thing we ignore outright as there is no money in it. Go figure. -- Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem. |
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On 21/06/2011 2:45 PM, John H wrote:
On Jun 21, 2:09 pm, wrote: Certainly not the right... scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) – Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. "All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. " All these caused by human activity? Heard anything about solar activity lately? Tell you what...Send lots of money to Al Gore. He'll fix it. Or in Canada, Gore's buddy in getting tax dollars for personal gain, David Suzuki. To green knobs, my SUT melted the ice on IO and Mars, eliminated sun spots... Whack jobs. We do have problems but it is over population. -- Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem. |
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On 6/22/11 11:09 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 21/06/2011 12:09 PM, jps wrote: Certainly not the right... scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) – Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. I wonder why they don't go after the Japanese for willfully dumping radioactive wash down waste into the Pacific? No government money in it? Green is a con job to bilk people for carbon credits and money. Define "go after." -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:13:25 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: Like any other species before us that has disappeared, our time will come to an end. Over population is the big cause. Too much indiscriminate breading and not enough big wars to keep the population down. Here's to indiscriminate breading! (That's where the dough is) |
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On 21/06/2011 3:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Wayne B" wrote in message ... On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:45:46 -0700 (PDT), John H wrote: On Jun 21, 2:09 pm, jps wrote: Certainly not the right... scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) – Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. "All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. " All these caused by human activity? Heard anything about solar activity lately? Tell you what...Send lots of money to Al Gore. He'll fix it. Ohh absolutely, Al Gore will call out Superman to move the killer asteroid into a safe orbit. Reply: Why is it the rights doings? France is overfishing Bluefin, Japanese are overfishing everything. These all right wing countries? And it all boils down to over population. Too many hungry mouths for the world to start. The worst pollution is too many humans. Soilent Green was far ahead of it time. People can't keep having 8 kids on land than can't support 80% of the existing population and the selfish stupid parents can't raise them properly. Unemployed, they lay around screwing anything with a vagina. UN feeds today to make a bigger problem tomorrow. For profit and UN empire building. Just ignores reality. I would not doubt 5 billion or more people will die this century of starvation or war for resources like food. Every one suffering because of the UN is Useless Nations. All it would take is a 3 year drought of Canada, US, Russia wheat production. And billions would be looking to riot, kill, war, as might as well before you starve to death. Meanwhile US-Euro regime propaganda makes the middle east riots out to be about democracy. It has squat to do with democracy. It has to do with cost of food and family. They have no jobs, no pussy, no meaningful income, waiting for a flour drop off to eat....just like cattle. You and I, flour goes u $5 for 10 kilo, we grunt. They starve. We need to consider he reality, too many human beings. Take Haiti, stripped baron from over population. Yet no money in Gore or Suzuki to get right to the over population problem is there when billions can be raised by the UN..... profit on misery, the UN game. Haiti ws predicted 30 years ago and UN ignored it. Going to be a lot of suffering in the next 10,000 years as we either mature socially or join the dinosaurs. And my SUT is the least of the worlds worries with this. -- Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem. |
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On 21/06/2011 4:11 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 21, 6:56 pm, wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:45:46 -0700 (PDT), John H wrote: On Jun 21, 2:09 pm, wrote: Certainly not the right... scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. "All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. " All these caused by human activity? Heard anything about solar activity lately? Tell you what...Send lots of money to Al Gore. He'll fix it. Do you not understand the word "conditions"? Do you believe that conditions can only be caused by solar activity? Did they say the other situations were caused by human activity? Feel free to deny what's in your face. Feel free to blame Al Gore for your problems.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I recorded a program last night called 'Prophets of Doom' which has half a dozen men giving their analysis where we (mostly the US) is going. Lets hope they aren't correct. I saw that. The robot thing is far fetched. Although I would like a Cherry 2000. I have worked with computers even before Bill Gates made his first $10K. It will be a long time yet for computers to become sentient. Female sex dolls, yes, but sentient is pie in the sky. But the rest, quite true. It is a fact that the world cannot support 7 billion people, so what do we do? Head towards 10, 15 billion people... Isn't going to happen. Riots today are not about democracy, they are about subsistence living. Propaganda media has sold the masses on democracy is there answer, and are they going to be disappointed. Does not mater be it democracy, kingdom, dictatorship, no jobs, no food, no money to have pussy and a family, begging for flour to eat....that is what it is about. Bottom line, too many people stripping the planet bare for something to eat. Unsustainable and guaranteed the reality is going to hit hard as eco systems collapse not from CO2, but from over fishing, stripping the land. Going to get ugly. -- Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem. |
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On 21/06/2011 6:28 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:36:20 -0700, wrote: Yeah, many of the conditions now are the same as the conditions then. *TRY READING* Man wasn't around 500 million years ago creating the conditions causing the mass extinctions. I'll bet the sun was. Jeez, no wonder no one will talk to you. Stick with name-calling. So, if I say that there's a condition called high blood pressure, then there can be one and only one cause for that condition? Try looking up the word condition: Truth is that no one really knows for sure what caused mass instinctions or ice ages in the past. There has been a lot of research and informed speculation but nothing that I'd describe as conclusive. The one thing we know for sure is that past actions of mankind had nothing to do with it. The other thing we know for sure is that large numbers of people in and out of academia are competing for research funding and they are not above releasing a dramatic press release every now and then. Anyone who takes all of these dire pronouncements as gospel needs to get a life. Some are known. The impact craters says all. We do know ice ages reduce diversity of life. When atomosheric carbon and warmer temperatures existed, the north slop of Alaska had ferns and biodiversity peeked. Which makes me wonder, why are the eco freaks worried about a little warming? More farm land up north to help feed the starving *******s having too many kids. Lets hope it is warming as NY city under ice isn't going to support anyone. Historically, earth is currently on the cooler side of its history. -- Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem. |
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On 21/06/2011 6:28 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:36:20 -0700, wrote: Yeah, many of the conditions now are the same as the conditions then. *TRY READING* Man wasn't around 500 million years ago creating the conditions causing the mass extinctions. I'll bet the sun was. Jeez, no wonder no one will talk to you. Stick with name-calling. So, if I say that there's a condition called high blood pressure, then there can be one and only one cause for that condition? Try looking up the word condition: Truth is that no one really knows for sure what caused mass instinctions or ice ages in the past. There has been a lot of research and informed speculation but nothing that I'd describe as conclusive. The one thing we know for sure is that past actions of mankind had nothing to do with it. The other thing we know for sure is that large numbers of people in and out of academia are competing for research funding and they are not above releasing a dramatic press release every now and then. Anyone who takes all of these dire pronouncements as gospel needs to get a life. My guess? Man is his worst enemy. First species with the ability to annihilate himself. No natural limitations on breading, nuclear weapons... can even putz with DNA and deliver it in a virus. Think the particle accelerator might create a black hole, and it all abruptly ends. Sure beats freezing to death as the government says the natural gas is needed for war or the egalitarians. Sort of like Russia in the early 1900's. -- Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem. |
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On 6/22/11 12:15 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 21/06/2011 6:28 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:36:20 -0700, wrote: Yeah, many of the conditions now are the same as the conditions then. *TRY READING* Man wasn't around 500 million years ago creating the conditions causing the mass extinctions. I'll bet the sun was. Jeez, no wonder no one will talk to you. Stick with name-calling. So, if I say that there's a condition called high blood pressure, then there can be one and only one cause for that condition? Try looking up the word condition: Truth is that no one really knows for sure what caused mass instinctions or ice ages in the past. There has been a lot of research and informed speculation but nothing that I'd describe as conclusive. The one thing we know for sure is that past actions of mankind had nothing to do with it. The other thing we know for sure is that large numbers of people in and out of academia are competing for research funding and they are not above releasing a dramatic press release every now and then. Anyone who takes all of these dire pronouncements as gospel needs to get a life. My guess? Man is his worst enemy. First species with the ability to annihilate himself. No natural limitations on breading, nuclear weapons... can even putz with DNA and deliver it in a virus. Think the particle accelerator might create a black hole, and it all abruptly ends. Sure beats freezing to death as the government says the natural gas is needed for war or the egalitarians. Sort of like Russia in the early 1900's. Once that "breading" gets out of hand, we'll be **** out of yeast. Love the "science," too...out of control particle accelerators. Yikes. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
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On 6/22/11 11:36 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 21/06/2011 3:35 PM, Califbill wrote: "Wayne B" wrote in message ... On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:45:46 -0700 (PDT), John H wrote: On Jun 21, 2:09 pm, jps wrote: Certainly not the right... scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) – Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. "All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. " All these caused by human activity? Heard anything about solar activity lately? Tell you what...Send lots of money to Al Gore. He'll fix it. Ohh absolutely, Al Gore will call out Superman to move the killer asteroid into a safe orbit. Reply: Why is it the rights doings? France is overfishing Bluefin, Japanese are overfishing everything. These all right wing countries? And it all boils down to over population. Too many hungry mouths for the world to start. The worst pollution is too many humans. Soilent Green was far ahead of it time. People can't keep having 8 kids on land than can't support 80% of the existing population and the selfish stupid parents can't raise them properly. Unemployed, they lay around screwing anything with a vagina. UN feeds today to make a bigger problem tomorrow. For profit and UN empire building. Just ignores reality. I would not doubt 5 billion or more people will die this century of starvation or war for resources like food. Every one suffering because of the UN is Useless Nations. All it would take is a 3 year drought of Canada, US, Russia wheat production. And billions would be looking to riot, kill, war, as might as well before you starve to death. Meanwhile US-Euro regime propaganda makes the middle east riots out to be about democracy. It has squat to do with democracy. It has to do with cost of food and family. They have no jobs, no pussy, no meaningful income, waiting for a flour drop off to eat....just like cattle. You and I, flour goes u $5 for 10 kilo, we grunt. They starve. We need to consider he reality, too many human beings. Take Haiti, stripped baron from over population. Yet no money in Gore or Suzuki to get right to the over population problem is there when billions can be raised by the UN..... profit on misery, the UN game. Haiti ws predicted 30 years ago and UN ignored it. Going to be a lot of suffering in the next 10,000 years as we either mature socially or join the dinosaurs. And my SUT is the least of the worlds worries with this. What's your workable solution to control population? -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
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On 6/22/11 11:49 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 21/06/2011 4:11 PM, North Star wrote: On Jun 21, 6:56 pm, wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:45:46 -0700 (PDT), John H wrote: On Jun 21, 2:09 pm, wrote: Certainly not the right... scientists are a bunch of blowhard lefties. God will create more species if we need 'em. Monsanto is working on a cow fish. PARIS (AFP) Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday. Dying coral reefs, biodiversity ravaged by invasive species, expanding open-water "dead zones," toxic algae blooms, the massive depletion of big fish stocks -- all are accelerating, they said in a report compiled during an April meeting in Oxford of 27 of the world's top ocean experts. Sponsored by the International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO), the review of recent science found that ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago. These symptoms, moreover, could be the harbinger of wider disruptions in the interlocking web of biological and chemical interactions that scientists now call the Earth system. All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. "The results are shocking," said Alex Rogers, an Oxford professor who heads IPSO and co-authored the report. "We are looking at consequences for humankind that will impact in our lifetime." Three main drivers are sickening the global marine environment, and all are a direct consequence of humans activity: global warming, acidification and a dwindling level oxygen, a condition known as hypoxia. Up to now, these and other impacts have been studied mainly in isolation. Only recently have scientists began to understand how these forces interact. "We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted." Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment. The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system. Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere. But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends. "The rate at which carbon is being absorbed is already far greater now than during the last globally significant extinction of marine species 55 million years ago," when some 50 percent of deep-sea life was wiped out, the report said. That event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, or PETM, may be an ancient dress rehearsal for future climate change that could be even more abrupt and more damaging, some scientists fear. Pollution has also taken a heavy toll, rendering the oceans less resilient to climate change. Runoff from nitrogen-rich fertiliser, killer microbes, and hormone-disrupting chemicals, for example, have all contributed to the mass die-off of corals, crucial not just for marine ecosystems but a lifeline for hundreds of millions of people too. The harvesting up to 90 percent of some species of big fish and sharks, meanwhile, has hugely disrupted food chains throughout the ocean, leading to explosive and imbalanced growth of algae, jellyfish and other "opportunistic" flora and fauna. "We now face losing marine species and entire marine ecosystems, such as coral reefs, within a single generation," said Daniel Laffoley, head of the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN) World Commission on Protected Areas, and co-author of the report. "And we are also probably the last generation that has enough time to deal with the problems," he told AFP by phone. "All five mass extinctions of life on the planet, reaching back more than 500 million years, were preceded by many of the same conditions now afflicted the ocean environment, they said. " All these caused by human activity? Heard anything about solar activity lately? Tell you what...Send lots of money to Al Gore. He'll fix it. Do you not understand the word "conditions"? Do you believe that conditions can only be caused by solar activity? Did they say the other situations were caused by human activity? Feel free to deny what's in your face. Feel free to blame Al Gore for your problems.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I recorded a program last night called 'Prophets of Doom' which has half a dozen men giving their analysis where we (mostly the US) is going. Lets hope they aren't correct. I saw that. The robot thing is far fetched. Although I would like a Cherry 2000. I have worked with computers even before Bill Gates made his first $10K. It will be a long time yet for computers to become sentient. Female sex dolls, yes, but sentient is pie in the sky. I'll bet your wife would like it, too, if you had a sex doll. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
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On 6/22/11 12:21 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 21/06/2011 6:40 PM, wrote: The vast consensus is that mankind has been negatively influencing the environment since the Industrial Revolution began, and it's generally getting worse not better. Something needs to be done, and we need to start now. Might I suggest we decrease the population to say 30,000 year sustainability plan of 500 million people? How are we going to do that, Mr. Science? -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
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On 22/06/2011 9:33 AM, iBoat wrote:
In , says... On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:13:25 -0600, wrote: Like any other species before us that has disappeared, our time will come to an end. Over population is the big cause. Too much indiscriminate breading and not enough big wars to keep the population down. Here's to indiscriminate breading! (That's where the dough is) Now that's funny! Are you saying the earth has a yeast infection? -- Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem. |
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