the success of the bush tax cuts
 

while the ku klux clowns are blaming obama for bush's turning the
economy over to the chinese, let's look at the effects of 10 years of
bush tax cuts

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/...-bush-tax-cuts

Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the
public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time.
Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion
just servicing the debt created by the cuts.

Tax collections have plunged to their lowest share of the economy in
60 years.

Between 2002 and 2007, employment increased by less than 1 percent
when the economy was supposed to be expanding. Employment growth
barely kept pace with population growth. Between the end of 2001, when
the country was in a recession, and the peak of the real estate
bubble, er, economic expansion in 2007, the US economy performed worse
than at any time since the end of World War II.

Median weekly earnings fell more than 2 percent between 2001 and 2007.
Meanwhile, people making over $3 million a year, who account for just
0.1 percent of taxpayers, got an average tax cut of $520,000, more
than 450 times what the average middle-income family received.

----------

and the right wing tells us how WONDERFUL this is...the rich are
getting richer...the middle class, worthless scum that they are, are
paying for it.

as god intended.

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On Jun 7, 9:18*pm, wf3h wrote:
while the ku klux clowns are blaming obama for bush's turning the
economy over to the chinese, let's look at the effects of 10 years of
bush tax cuts

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/...-bush-tax-cuts

Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the
public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time.
Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion
just servicing the debt created by the cuts.

Tax collections have plunged to their lowest share of the economy in
60 years.

Between 2002 and 2007, employment increased by less than 1 percent
when the economy was supposed to be expanding. Employment growth
barely kept pace with population growth. Between the end of 2001, when
the country was in a recession, and the peak of the real estate
bubble, er, economic expansion in 2007, the US economy performed worse
than at any time since the end of World War II.

Median weekly earnings fell more than 2 percent between 2001 and 2007.
Meanwhile, people making over $3 million a year, who account for just
0.1 percent of taxpayers, got an average tax cut of $520,000, more
than 450 times what the average middle-income family received.

----------

and the right wing tells us how WONDERFUL this is...the rich are
getting richer...the middle class, worthless scum that they are, are
paying for it.

as god intended.

Sure sounds like the rich & their politician puppets want to 'get
theirs' before the house of cards tumbles down.

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wf3h wrote:

Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the
public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time.
Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion
just servicing the debt created by the cuts.

Obama has been in office over 2 years and he had a filibuster proof
senate along with the house for several months. Why didn't the
democrats repeal those cuts? In fact the democrats extended them when
they expired. All Obama had to do was veto that bill.

These are now the Obama tax cuts, along with a 14% cut in the FICA
tax. He had doubled down on the Bush tax policy.


It's a bit more nuanced than that, but basically you're right. The
nuance includes both lack of Dem backbone and Republican
obstructionism (the "filibuster" proof senate isn't much of an
argument, since there are wide range of Dems).

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On 07/06/2011 6:18 PM, wf3h wrote:
while the ku klux clowns are blaming obama for bush's turning the
economy over to the chinese, let's look at the effects of 10 years of
bush tax cuts

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/...-bush-tax-cuts

Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the
public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time.
Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion
just servicing the debt created by the cuts.

Tax collections have plunged to their lowest share of the economy in
60 years.

Between 2002 and 2007, employment increased by less than 1 percent
when the economy was supposed to be expanding. Employment growth
barely kept pace with population growth. Between the end of 2001, when
the country was in a recession, and the peak of the real estate
bubble, er, economic expansion in 2007, the US economy performed worse
than at any time since the end of World War II.

Median weekly earnings fell more than 2 percent between 2001 and 2007.
Meanwhile, people making over $3 million a year, who account for just
0.1 percent of taxpayers, got an average tax cut of $520,000, more
than 450 times what the average middle-income family received.

----------

and the right wing tells us how WONDERFUL this is...the rich are
getting richer...the middle class, worthless scum that they are, are
paying for it.

as god intended.

Where do you get this BS. Bush was not presiand dent in 2009 and
2010...unless of course he looked like Obama.

As for debt spend, Obama has already added much more debt than Bush did
in 8 years, problem is Obama isn't even through his first, and hopefully
last term.

Tax collections are low because producers are not making any money and
with 8 million lost jobs off of 2006 Congress starting, plus replacement
jobs are crap, well, you don't make it you don't get taxed on it.

Bet a lot of people would love to go back to the 2002 and 2006
employment type stats. You know, before democratic congress of 2006
botched it up.

There was no expansion in 2007, that is when the Congress was screwing
with interest rates and market liquidity dried up. Hey, why should I
lend money for nothing but a load of risk?

Funny, and the top 20% of earners pay 80% of the taxes. So do you mean
there is revenue in those 80% of the turnips?
--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 00:54:12 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 07/06/2011 6:18 PM, wf3h wrote:
while the ku klux clowns are blaming obama for bush's turning the
economy over to the chinese, let's look at the effects of 10 years of
bush tax cuts

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/...-bush-tax-cuts

Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the
public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time.
Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion
just servicing the debt created by the cuts.

Tax collections have plunged to their lowest share of the economy in
60 years.

Between 2002 and 2007, employment increased by less than 1 percent
when the economy was supposed to be expanding. Employment growth
barely kept pace with population growth. Between the end of 2001, when
the country was in a recession, and the peak of the real estate
bubble, er, economic expansion in 2007, the US economy performed worse
than at any time since the end of World War II.

Median weekly earnings fell more than 2 percent between 2001 and 2007.
Meanwhile, people making over $3 million a year, who account for just
0.1 percent of taxpayers, got an average tax cut of $520,000, more
than 450 times what the average middle-income family received.

----------

and the right wing tells us how WONDERFUL this is...the rich are
getting richer...the middle class, worthless scum that they are, are
paying for it.

as god intended.

Where do you get this BS. Bush was not presiand dent in 2009 and
2010...unless of course he looked like Obama.

As for debt spend, Obama has already added much more debt than Bush did
in 8 years, problem is Obama isn't even through his first, and hopefully
last term.

Tax collections are low because producers are not making any money and
with 8 million lost jobs off of 2006 Congress starting, plus replacement
jobs are crap, well, you don't make it you don't get taxed on it.

Bet a lot of people would love to go back to the 2002 and 2006
employment type stats. You know, before democratic congress of 2006
botched it up.

There was no expansion in 2007, that is when the Congress was screwing
with interest rates and market liquidity dried up. Hey, why should I
lend money for nothing but a load of risk?

Funny, and the top 20% of earners pay 80% of the taxes. So do you mean
there is revenue in those 80% of the turnips?

I know were you got your stupid... suggestion: stop banging your head
on the wall so much.

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wf3h wrote:

Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the
public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time.
Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion
just servicing the debt created by the cuts.

Obama has been in office over 2 years and he had a filibuster proof
senate along with the house for several months.

well no. the budget is the function of the house and it was not
filibuster proof

but, then, you simply say it's the black guy's fault

and i notice you said zip about the 30 year history of the rape of the
US by your friends

Why didn't the
democrats repeal those cuts? In fact the democrats extended them when
they expired. All Obama had to do was veto that bill.

as you yourself noted....

they couldnt. so again, it's the black guy's fault...

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:32:11 -0700, wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wf3h wrote:

Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the
public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time.
Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion
just servicing the debt created by the cuts.

Obama has been in office over 2 years and he had a filibuster proof
senate along with the house for several months. Why didn't the
democrats repeal those cuts? In fact the democrats extended them when
they expired. All Obama had to do was veto that bill.

These are now the Obama tax cuts, along with a 14% cut in the FICA
tax. He had doubled down on the Bush tax policy.


It's a bit more nuanced than that, but basically you're right. The
nuance includes both lack of Dem backbone and Republican
obstructionism (the "filibuster" proof senate isn't much of an
argument, since there are wide range of Dems).

now THAT is strue. as folks point out, the dems are far less united in
their hatred of the middle class than the GOP is. the 1st order of
business of the GOP is to destroy the middle class

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 00:54:12 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 07/06/2011 6:18 PM, wf3h wrote:
while the ku klux clowns are blaming obama for bush's turning the
economy over to the chinese, let's look at the effects of 10 years of
bush tax cuts

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/...-bush-tax-cuts

Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the
public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time.
Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion
just servicing the debt created by the cuts.

Tax collections have plunged to their lowest share of the economy in
60 years.

Between 2002 and 2007, employment increased by less than 1 percent
when the economy was supposed to be expanding. Employment growth
barely kept pace with population growth. Between the end of 2001, when
the country was in a recession, and the peak of the real estate
bubble, er, economic expansion in 2007, the US economy performed worse
than at any time since the end of World War II.

Median weekly earnings fell more than 2 percent between 2001 and 2007.
Meanwhile, people making over $3 million a year, who account for just
0.1 percent of taxpayers, got an average tax cut of $520,000, more
than 450 times what the average middle-income family received.

----------

and the right wing tells us how WONDERFUL this is...the rich are
getting richer...the middle class, worthless scum that they are, are
paying for it.

as god intended.

Where do you get this BS. Bush was not presiand dent in 2009 and
2010...unless of course he looked like Obama.

his last budget was 2009, it was 1.2 trillion in debt

and HIS tax cuts continue to fund the deficit. read the artice


As for debt spend, Obama has already added much more debt than Bush did
in 8 years, problem is Obama isn't even through his first, and hopefully
last term.

really? proof?

oh. none. but he's black...


Bet a lot of people would love to go back to the 2002 and 2006
employment type stats. You know, before democratic congress of 2006
botched it up.]]

yep the asset bubble. a lie told to the US middle class by the right
wing

uh...how'd that work out?


There was no expansion in 2007, that is when the Congress was screwing
with interest rates and market liquidity dried up. Hey, why should I
lend money for nothing but a load of risk?

yep. the GOP congress and the GOP president screwed the US.


Funny, and the top 20% of earners pay 80% of the taxes. So do you mean
there is revenue in those 80% of the turnips?

funny the top 20% have had a 500% increase in income in the last 30
years AND a 30% tax CUT

tells you how much money they make while the middle class dies.

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wf3h wrote:

Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the
public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time.
Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion
just servicing the debt created by the cuts.

Obama has been in office over 2 years and he had a filibuster proof
senate along with the house for several months.

well no. the budget is the function of the house and it was not
filibuster proof

but, then, you simply say it's the black guy's fault

and i notice you said zip about the 30 year history of the rape of the
US by your friends

You keep spewing this crap, hoping somebody will be dumb enough to
believe it. The fact is, for the last 40 years the democrats have either
been in control of two or all three (house, senate, whitehouse) more
than the republicans with times of all three when the republicans have
not had that advantage at all. You really need to read up on some simple
history before you blame the consistently minority party...



Why didn't the
democrats repeal those cuts? In fact the democrats extended them when
they expired. All Obama had to do was veto that bill.

as you yourself noted....

they couldnt. so again, it's the black guy's fault...





--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:32:11 -0700, wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wf3h wrote:

Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the
public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time.
Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion
just servicing the debt created by the cuts.

Obama has been in office over 2 years and he had a filibuster proof
senate along with the house for several months. Why didn't the
democrats repeal those cuts? In fact the democrats extended them when
they expired. All Obama had to do was veto that bill.

These are now the Obama tax cuts, along with a 14% cut in the FICA
tax. He had doubled down on the Bush tax policy.


It's a bit more nuanced than that, but basically you're right. The
nuance includes both lack of Dem backbone and Republican
obstructionism (the "filibuster" proof senate isn't much of an
argument, since there are wide range of Dems).

now THAT is strue. as folks point out, the dems are far less united in
their hatred of the middle class than the GOP is. the 1st order of
business of the GOP is to destroy the middle class

You can say it all you want, but Pelosi, Reid, Obama, his cabinet, and
the rest have said they would raise gas prices to "price us away from
petrol fuels" and they have done exactly as they said they would..

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:29:02 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:32:11 -0700, wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0
It's a bit more nuanced than that, but basically you're right. The
nuance includes both lack of Dem backbone and Republican
obstructionism (the "filibuster" proof senate isn't much of an
argument, since there are wide range of Dems).

now THAT is strue. as folks point out, the dems are far less united in
their hatred of the middle class than the GOP is. the 1st order of
business of the GOP is to destroy the middle class

You can say it all you want, but Pelosi, Reid, Obama, his cabinet, and
the rest have said they would raise gas prices to "price us away from
petrol fuels" and they have done exactly as they said they would..

you can say it all you want, but pawlenty, palin, santorum, etc. think
the rich need a LARGER tax cut

after they just got a trillion dollar bailout

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:27:51 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wf3h wrote:


well no. the budget is the function of the house and it was not
filibuster proof

but, then, you simply say it's the black guy's fault

and i notice you said zip about the 30 year history of the rape of the
US by your friends

You keep spewing this crap, hoping somebody will be dumb enough to
believe it.

gee. alli have is evidence. you? you have your reader's digest stories
and myths

The fact is, for the last 40 years the democrats have either
been in control of two or all three (house, senate, whitehouse) more
than the republicans with times of all three when the republicans have
not had that advantage at all. You really need to read up on some simple
history before you blame the consistently minority party...

really? let's see...since 1980, the GOP controlled the presidency for
22 years.

how's tthat working out for us? we doing OK? the fact is, the GOP
hates america. and i suggest you read up on how often the GOP votes
the party line vs the dems who split their loyalty.

you're right wing which means you believe in fairy tales

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:29:02 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:32:11 -0700, wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0
It's a bit more nuanced than that, but basically you're right. The
nuance includes both lack of Dem backbone and Republican
obstructionism (the "filibuster" proof senate isn't much of an
argument, since there are wide range of Dems).

now THAT is strue. as folks point out, the dems are far less united in
their hatred of the middle class than the GOP is. the 1st order of
business of the GOP is to destroy the middle class

You can say it all you want, but Pelosi, Reid, Obama, his cabinet, and
the rest have said they would raise gas prices to "price us away from
petrol fuels" and they have done exactly as they said they would..

you can say it all you want, but pawlenty, palin, santorum, etc. think
the rich need a LARGER tax cut

after they just got a trillion dollar bailout

Your speculation does not stack up to my facts... Pelosi said "we are a
do nothing congress", Obama said "we need to raise the price of fossil
fuels to price folks out of the market"... What you "think" republicans
want is just your own style of bull****.

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:27:51 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wf3h wrote:


well no. the budget is the function of the house and it was not
filibuster proof

but, then, you simply say it's the black guy's fault

and i notice you said zip about the 30 year history of the rape of the
US by your friends

You keep spewing this crap, hoping somebody will be dumb enough to
believe it.

gee. alli have is evidence. you? you have your reader's digest stories
and myths

The fact is, for the last 40 years the democrats have either
been in control of two or all three (house, senate, whitehouse) more
than the republicans with times of all three when the republicans have
not had that advantage at all. You really need to read up on some simple
history before you blame the consistently minority party...

really? let's see...since 1980, the GOP controlled the presidency for
22 years.

how's tthat working out for us? we doing OK? the fact is, the GOP
hates america. and i suggest you read up on how often the GOP votes
the party line vs the dems who split their loyalty.

you're right wing which means you believe in fairy tales

You are the one spewing lobsta boats...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On 6/9/11 8:44 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:27:51 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wrote:


well no. the budget is the function of the house and it was not
filibuster proof

but, then, you simply say it's the black guy's fault

and i notice you said zip about the 30 year history of the rape of the
US by your friends

You keep spewing this crap, hoping somebody will be dumb enough to
believe it.

gee. alli have is evidence. you? you have your reader's digest stories
and myths

The fact is, for the last 40 years the democrats have either
been in control of two or all three (house, senate, whitehouse) more
than the republicans with times of all three when the republicans have
not had that advantage at all. You really need to read up on some simple
history before you blame the consistently minority party...

really? let's see...since 1980, the GOP controlled the presidency for
22 years.

how's tthat working out for us? we doing OK? the fact is, the GOP
hates america. and i suggest you read up on how often the GOP votes
the party line vs the dems who split their loyalty.

you're right wing which means you believe in fairy tales

You are the one spewing lobsta boats...


Asshole, I sold the Lobster Boat, I now own a 42' Sport-fisherman. So
when you are out on your clapped out row boat, think of me in my a/c yacht.

--
Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where
personal insults are not allowed?

http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On 07/06/2011 6:18 PM, wf3h wrote:
while the ku klux clowns are blaming obama for bush's turning the
economy over to the chinese, let's look at the effects of 10 years of
bush tax cuts

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/...-bush-tax-cuts

Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the
public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time.
Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion
just servicing the debt created by the cuts.

Tax collections have plunged to their lowest share of the economy in
60 years.

Between 2002 and 2007, employment increased by less than 1 percent
when the economy was supposed to be expanding. Employment growth
barely kept pace with population growth. Between the end of 2001, when
the country was in a recession, and the peak of the real estate
bubble, er, economic expansion in 2007, the US economy performed worse
than at any time since the end of World War II.

Median weekly earnings fell more than 2 percent between 2001 and 2007.
Meanwhile, people making over $3 million a year, who account for just
0.1 percent of taxpayers, got an average tax cut of $520,000, more
than 450 times what the average middle-income family received.

----------

and the right wing tells us how WONDERFUL this is...the rich are
getting richer...the middle class, worthless scum that they are, are
paying for it.

as god intended.

Do the math fleabagger. Oh wait, I forgot, fleabaggers are mentally
challenged so lets summarize it.

Now 0.1% is 1:1000. Only about 100M taxpayers. That means the claim is
100,000 people make over $3M/year. First, I seriously question that
number as being far too high, but lets go with it.

100,000 * .5M is only $50B so.... with a $1600B overspend, where do you
suggest the other $1550B comes from?

Fact of the mater is you fleabaggers are stupid envious greedy slugs.
And your not so benevolent leaders use your gullibility against you,
makes you good little manipulated sheep.

Now for the management principle here, taught in MBA and political
degrees: guide them to envy/hate others and they will hate you less.

Even school kids know this. But alas, you are a stupid fleabagger.
--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On 08/06/2011 4:29 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:32:11 -0700, wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wrote:

Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the
public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time.
Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion
just servicing the debt created by the cuts.

Obama has been in office over 2 years and he had a filibuster proof
senate along with the house for several months. Why didn't the
democrats repeal those cuts? In fact the democrats extended them when
they expired. All Obama had to do was veto that bill.

These are now the Obama tax cuts, along with a 14% cut in the FICA
tax. He had doubled down on the Bush tax policy.


It's a bit more nuanced than that, but basically you're right. The
nuance includes both lack of Dem backbone and Republican
obstructionism (the "filibuster" proof senate isn't much of an
argument, since there are wide range of Dems).

now THAT is strue. as folks point out, the dems are far less united in
their hatred of the middle class than the GOP is. the 1st order of
business of the GOP is to destroy the middle class

You can say it all you want, but Pelosi, Reid, Obama, his cabinet, and
the rest have said they would raise gas prices to "price us away from
petrol fuels" and they have done exactly as they said they would..

Rumor has it Obama is itching for a national sales tax. In about the 8%
range. Nothing like leftie-statism greed.

If that were to happen, get a million protesters to DC throwing bricks
and rocks until it is repealed. No jail is that big.

As in Canada as we have discovered the income tax reduction incentive
was temporary and it ends up being a double tax. First you pay income
tax to earn it, then taxed again to spend it.

But one good thing is it hits fleabaggers the worst. If you have and
after tax $100K income, save lots, only spend $50K. For someone making
$50K 8% hits twice as hard on the gross.

Fleabags get played like a piano. Their own envy and greed turned
against them.
--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On 08/06/2011 9:09 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 00:54:12 -0600,
wrote:

On 07/06/2011 6:18 PM, wf3h wrote:
while the ku klux clowns are blaming obama for bush's turning the
economy over to the chinese, let's look at the effects of 10 years of
bush tax cuts

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/...-bush-tax-cuts

Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the
public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time.
Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion
just servicing the debt created by the cuts.

Tax collections have plunged to their lowest share of the economy in
60 years.

Between 2002 and 2007, employment increased by less than 1 percent
when the economy was supposed to be expanding. Employment growth
barely kept pace with population growth. Between the end of 2001, when
the country was in a recession, and the peak of the real estate
bubble, er, economic expansion in 2007, the US economy performed worse
than at any time since the end of World War II.

Median weekly earnings fell more than 2 percent between 2001 and 2007.
Meanwhile, people making over $3 million a year, who account for just
0.1 percent of taxpayers, got an average tax cut of $520,000, more
than 450 times what the average middle-income family received.

----------

and the right wing tells us how WONDERFUL this is...the rich are
getting richer...the middle class, worthless scum that they are, are
paying for it.

as god intended.

Where do you get this BS. Bush was not presiand dent in 2009 and
2010...unless of course he looked like Obama.

As for debt spend, Obama has already added much more debt than Bush did
in 8 years, problem is Obama isn't even through his first, and hopefully
last term.

Tax collections are low because producers are not making any money and
with 8 million lost jobs off of 2006 Congress starting, plus replacement
jobs are crap, well, you don't make it you don't get taxed on it.

Bet a lot of people would love to go back to the 2002 and 2006
employment type stats. You know, before democratic congress of 2006
botched it up.

There was no expansion in 2007, that is when the Congress was screwing
with interest rates and market liquidity dried up. Hey, why should I
lend money for nothing but a load of risk?

Funny, and the top 20% of earners pay 80% of the taxes. So do you mean
there is revenue in those 80% of the turnips?

I know were you got your stupid... suggestion: stop banging your head
on the wall so much.

Pay your taxes boy. Oh, forget, you are a broke loser. Just hind sucking.
--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On 08/06/2011 3:41 PM, wf3h wrote:

and the right wing tells us how WONDERFUL this is...the rich are
getting richer...the middle class, worthless scum that they are, are
paying for it.

as god intended.

Where do you get this BS. Bush was not presiand dent in 2009 and
2010...unless of course he looked like Obama.

his last budget was 2009, it was 1.2 trillion in debt

and HIS tax cuts continue to fund the deficit. read the artice

His cuts are inconsequential to the debt. Trouble is you fleabaggers
should have paid more attention in math class. Your stupidity makes you
sheep.

As for debt spend, Obama has already added much more debt than Bush did
in 8 years, problem is Obama isn't even through his first, and hopefully
last term.

really? proof?

oh. none. but he's black...

So tell us fleabagger, is that the reason or the excuse? Are you
suggesting blacks don't pay their debts because they are black?

My, you are racist.

--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On 08/06/2011 6:56 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:27:51 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wrote:


well no. the budget is the function of the house and it was not
filibuster proof

but, then, you simply say it's the black guy's fault

and i notice you said zip about the 30 year history of the rape of the
US by your friends

You keep spewing this crap, hoping somebody will be dumb enough to
believe it.

gee. alli have is evidence. you? you have your reader's digest stories
and myths

The fact is, for the last 40 years the democrats have either
been in control of two or all three (house, senate, whitehouse) more
than the republicans with times of all three when the republicans have
not had that advantage at all. You really need to read up on some simple
history before you blame the consistently minority party...

really? let's see...since 1980, the GOP controlled the presidency for
22 years.

how's tthat working out for us? we doing OK? the fact is, the GOP
hates america. and i suggest you read up on how often the GOP votes
the party line vs the dems who split their loyalty.

you're right wing which means you believe in fairy tales

Funny, your poor, envious, destitute, greed and stupid sheep.

Who really has the problem?
--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On 09/06/2011 7:31 AM, HarryK wrote:
On 6/9/11 8:44 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:27:51 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wrote:


well no. the budget is the function of the house and it was not
filibuster proof

but, then, you simply say it's the black guy's fault

and i notice you said zip about the 30 year history of the rape of the
US by your friends

You keep spewing this crap, hoping somebody will be dumb enough to
believe it.

gee. alli have is evidence. you? you have your reader's digest stories
and myths

The fact is, for the last 40 years the democrats have either
been in control of two or all three (house, senate, whitehouse) more
than the republicans with times of all three when the republicans have
not had that advantage at all. You really need to read up on some
simple
history before you blame the consistently minority party...

really? let's see...since 1980, the GOP controlled the presidency for
22 years.

how's tthat working out for us? we doing OK? the fact is, the GOP
hates america. and i suggest you read up on how often the GOP votes
the party line vs the dems who split their loyalty.

you're right wing which means you believe in fairy tales

You are the one spewing lobsta boats...


Asshole, I sold the Lobster Boat, I now own a 42' Sport-fisherman. So
when you are out on your clapped out row boat, think of me in my a/c yacht.

A miniature version of S.S. Minnow? I didn't know they were available.

--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On 09/06/2011 10:36 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 17:37:30 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wrote:

Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the
public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time.
Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion
just servicing the debt created by the cuts.

Obama has been in office over 2 years and he had a filibuster proof
senate along with the house for several months.

well no. the budget is the function of the house and it was not
filibuster proof

There is no filibuster in the house, the majority rules and there are
time limits on all debates.
The dems had the majority in the house.

but, then, you simply say it's the black guy's fault

In this case it was. If Obama wanted the Bush tax cuts to expire, all
he had to do was to veto the extension bill.

There was not a veto proof support for the extension

These are now the Obama tax cuts.

Besides, the amounts were talking about, would be like using tooth picks
to save the titanic after its side was riped open. The cuts are not
that much in the $1.6 trillion, $2 trillion US Fed level corruption spend.

The real problem is that DC is living well beyond its means, sort of
like having an income of $10K/mo but spending $25K/mo. Will not last
long before real trouble starts, and in fact it already has. USD has
lost 30% value in just 4 years against the Yuan.
--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On 08/06/2011 3:38 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:32:11 -0700, wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wrote:

Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the
public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time.
Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion
just servicing the debt created by the cuts.

Obama has been in office over 2 years and he had a filibuster proof
senate along with the house for several months. Why didn't the
democrats repeal those cuts? In fact the democrats extended them when
they expired. All Obama had to do was veto that bill.

These are now the Obama tax cuts, along with a 14% cut in the FICA
tax. He had doubled down on the Bush tax policy.


It's a bit more nuanced than that, but basically you're right. The
nuance includes both lack of Dem backbone and Republican
obstructionism (the "filibuster" proof senate isn't much of an
argument, since there are wide range of Dems).

now THAT is strue. as folks point out, the dems are far less united in
their hatred of the middle class than the GOP is. the 1st order of
business of the GOP is to destroy the middle class

But the democrats beat the GOP to it, at $14.5 trillion, me thinks
unless something very radical changes, count US DC bankrupt and in
spiral debt.

US will not do a Portugal or Greece, they will go more like Zimbabwe,
hyperinflation devaluing wages and incomes. US Fed is bankrupt, its
biggest credit can't pay the bills the only solution since 2008 is to
create new inflationary debt dollars hand over fist, faster than toilet
paper actually.

Huge fraud on the people by its own government. Yep, DC is slowly
screwing all Americans. That is why 74% of the Whitehouse staff got a
9% or better raise last year.

Trouble really boils down to flea baggers like yourself supporting the
very people that screw you. Too damned stupid to see the obvious.
--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On 09/06/2011 6:44 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:29:02 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:32:11 -0700, wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0
It's a bit more nuanced than that, but basically you're right. The
nuance includes both lack of Dem backbone and Republican
obstructionism (the "filibuster" proof senate isn't much of an
argument, since there are wide range of Dems).

now THAT is strue. as folks point out, the dems are far less united in
their hatred of the middle class than the GOP is. the 1st order of
business of the GOP is to destroy the middle class

You can say it all you want, but Pelosi, Reid, Obama, his cabinet, and
the rest have said they would raise gas prices to "price us away from
petrol fuels" and they have done exactly as they said they would..

you can say it all you want, but pawlenty, palin, santorum, etc. think
the rich need a LARGER tax cut

after they just got a trillion dollar bailout

Your speculation does not stack up to my facts... Pelosi said "we are a
do nothing congress", Obama said "we need to raise the price of fossil
fuels to price folks out of the market"... What you "think" republicans
want is just your own style of bull****.

Good part is Obama's way is going to screw the fleabaggers more. Heck,
even a poor person surviving on only SS gets the gas price hike in gas,
food, even rent as the owner will want more as will the city
tax/utilities. Less of their incomes are discretionary to compensate
for the price hikes. Nice kick of inflation onto the fixed incomes and
low incomes.

But that is what this is about. Does big fat statism sized behemoth
government take the hit? Or pass the hit to the people in
hyper-inflation and a lower standard of living?

The more the government gets, the less the people get.

Flea baggers are just too dumbsh1t stupid to see it.
--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 08:44:58 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 8 Jun 201

you can say it all you want, but pawlenty, palin, santorum, etc. think
the rich need a LARGER tax cut

after they just got a trillion dollar bailout

Your speculation does not stack up to my facts... Pelosi said "we are a
do nothing congress", Obama said "we need to raise the price of fossil
fuels to price folks out of the market"... What you "think" republicans
want is just your own style of bull****.

no one cares what she says. what matters is actiong

and the GOP is destroying america

i have the facts

-tax cut in 2001
-tax cut in 2003
-CSE's that bankrupted the economy

those are actions

they were done by the right wing.

so i have facts

you have fairy tales

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:10:46 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/06/2011 4:29 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


Rumor has it Obama is itching for a national sales tax. In about the 8%
range. Nothing like leftie-statism greed.

you guys got lots of rumors. hell i wouldnt be surprised if you
thought the rumor was he was a martian

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:46:03 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 09/06/2011 6:44 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


you can say it all you want, but pawlenty, palin, santorum, etc. think
the rich need a LARGER tax cut

after they just got a trillion dollar bailout

Your speculation does not stack up to my facts... Pelosi said "we are a
do nothing congress", Obama said "we need to raise the price of fossil
fuels to price folks out of the market"... What you "think" republicans
want is just your own style of bull****.

Good part is Obama's way is going to screw the fleabaggers more. Heck,
even a poor person surviving on only SS gets the gas price hike in gas,
food, even rent as the owner will want more as will the city
tax/utilities. Less of their incomes are discretionary to compensate
for the price hikes. Nice kick of inflation onto the fixed incomes and
low incomes.

let's see...gas approached 4 under bush

guess that was obama's fault, too.


But that is what this is about. Does big fat statism sized behemoth
government take the hit? Or pass the hit to the people in
hyper-inflation and a lower standard of living?

The more the government gets, the less the people get.

except the govt never stole 10 trillion in 1 year like wall street did

and the right loves it


Flea baggers are just too dumbsh1t stupid to see it.

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:36:51 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/06/2011 3:38 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:32:11 -0700, wrote:


It's a bit more nuanced than that, but basically you're right. The
nuance includes both lack of Dem backbone and Republican
obstructionism (the "filibuster" proof senate isn't much of an
argument, since there are wide range of Dems).

now THAT is strue. as folks point out, the dems are far less united in
their hatred of the middle class than the GOP is. the 1st order of
business of the GOP is to destroy the middle class

But the democrats beat the GOP to it, at $14.5 trillion, me thinks
unless something very radical changes, count US DC bankrupt and in
spiral debt.


and this is more right wing bull****

14.5 trillion where? how?

oh. you just heard it somewhere.

lemme know when you get some facts, OK?

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:36:49 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 17:37:30 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wf3h wrote:

Obama has been in office over 2 years and he had a filibuster proof
senate along with the house for several months.

well no. the budget is the function of the house and it was not
filibuster proof

There is no filibuster in the house, the majority rules and there are
time limits on all debates.
The dems had the majority in the house.

well lets see...the GOP has had the house for 5 months

how they doing? they balance the budget?


but, then, you simply say it's the black guy's fault

In this case it was. If Obama wanted the Bush tax cuts to expire, all
he had to do was to veto the extension bill.

and let the middle class take it on the chin...as is usual when the
GOP is involved.


There was not a veto proof support for the extension

These are now the Obama tax cuts.

uh no.

he proposed ONLY a tax cut for the middle class

the GOP, intent on destroying the middle class, said no

they're the bush tax cuts

your spin is nonsense

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:46:02 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 09/06/2011 10:36 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 17:37:30 -0400, wrote:


but, then, you simply say it's the black guy's fault

In this case it was. If Obama wanted the Bush tax cuts to expire, all
he had to do was to veto the extension bill.

There was not a veto proof support for the extension

These are now the Obama tax cuts.

Besides, the amounts were talking about, would be like using tooth picks
to save the titanic after its side was riped open. The cuts are not
that much in the $1.6 trillion, $2 trillion US Fed level corruption spend.

The real problem is that DC is living well beyond its means, sort of
like having an income of $10K/mo but spending $25K/mo. Will not last
long before real trouble starts, and in fact it already has. USD has
lost 30% value in just 4 years against the Yuan.

the real problem is that the right believes supply side mythology so
insists you can cut taxes and balance the budget

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:16:26 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/06/2011 3:41 PM, wf3h wrote:

and the right wing tells us how WONDERFUL this is...the rich are
getting richer...the middle class, worthless scum that they are, are
paying for it.

as god intended.

As for debt spend, Obama has already added much more debt than Bush did
in 8 years, problem is Obama isn't even through his first, and hopefully
last term.

really? proof?

oh. none. but he's black...

So tell us fleabagger, is that the reason or the excuse? Are you
suggesting blacks don't pay their debts because they are black?

you tell me, kluxer


My, you are racist.

yeah you rabid racists generally say that anyone who isnt pro white is
a racist

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:00:35 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 07/06/2011 6:18 PM, wf3h wrote:
while the ku klux clowns are blaming obama for bush's turning the
economy over to the chinese, let's look at the effects of 10 years of
bush tax cuts


----------

and the right wing tells us how WONDERFUL this is...the rich are
getting richer...the middle class, worthless scum that they are, are
paying for it.

as god intended.

Do the math fleabagger. Oh wait, I forgot, fleabaggers are mentally
challenged so lets summarize it.

says the guy who thinks obama was pres in 2001


Now 0.1% is 1:1000. Only about 100M taxpayers. That means the claim is
100,000 people make over $3M/year. First, I seriously question that
number as being far too high, but lets go with it.

100,000 * .5M is only $50B so.... with a $1600B overspend, where do you
suggest the other $1550B comes from?

hey you tell me. you guys cut taxes on the 0.1% and let the normal
working people die on the vine

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 08:44:58 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 8 Jun 201

you can say it all you want, but pawlenty, palin, santorum, etc. think
the rich need a LARGER tax cut

after they just got a trillion dollar bailout

Your speculation does not stack up to my facts... Pelosi said "we are a
do nothing congress", Obama said "we need to raise the price of fossil
fuels to price folks out of the market"... What you "think" republicans
want is just your own style of bull****.

no one cares what she says. what matters is actiong

and the GOP is destroying america

i have the facts

-tax cut in 2001
-tax cut in 2003
-CSE's that bankrupted the economy

those are actions

they were done by the right wing.

so i have facts

you have fairy tales

I have Pelosi tieing up the congress for two years with gutless
investigations against Scooter Libby while doing everything she could to
raise the price of oil and destroy the economy..

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:46:03 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 09/06/2011 6:44 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


you can say it all you want, but pawlenty, palin, santorum, etc. think
the rich need a LARGER tax cut

after they just got a trillion dollar bailout

Your speculation does not stack up to my facts... Pelosi said "we are a
do nothing congress", Obama said "we need to raise the price of fossil
fuels to price folks out of the market"... What you "think" republicans
want is just your own style of bull****.

Good part is Obama's way is going to screw the fleabaggers more. Heck,
even a poor person surviving on only SS gets the gas price hike in gas,
food, even rent as the owner will want more as will the city
tax/utilities. Less of their incomes are discretionary to compensate
for the price hikes. Nice kick of inflation onto the fixed incomes and
low incomes.

let's see...gas approached 4 under bush

guess that was obama's fault, too.


But that is what this is about. Does big fat statism sized behemoth
government take the hit? Or pass the hit to the people in
hyper-inflation and a lower standard of living?

The more the government gets, the less the people get.

except the govt never stole 10 trillion in 1 year like wall street did

and the right loves it


Flea baggers are just too dumbsh1t stupid to see it.

It went up, and if you blame Bush for that, you have to credit him for
bringing it back down. This clown won't get it back down, thank God he
will be gone in the next election...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:36:51 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/06/2011 3:38 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:32:11 -0700, wrote:


It's a bit more nuanced than that, but basically you're right. The
nuance includes both lack of Dem backbone and Republican
obstructionism (the "filibuster" proof senate isn't much of an
argument, since there are wide range of Dems).

now THAT is strue. as folks point out, the dems are far less united in
their hatred of the middle class than the GOP is. the 1st order of
business of the GOP is to destroy the middle class

But the democrats beat the GOP to it, at $14.5 trillion, me thinks
unless something very radical changes, count US DC bankrupt and in
spiral debt.


and this is more right wing bull****

14.5 trillion where? how?

oh. you just heard it somewhere.

lemme know when you get some facts, OK?

Open a newspaper... the debt is 14.5 T... Duh...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:46:02 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 09/06/2011 10:36 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 17:37:30 -0400, wrote:


but, then, you simply say it's the black guy's fault

In this case it was. If Obama wanted the Bush tax cuts to expire, all
he had to do was to veto the extension bill.

There was not a veto proof support for the extension

These are now the Obama tax cuts.

Besides, the amounts were talking about, would be like using tooth picks
to save the titanic after its side was riped open. The cuts are not
that much in the $1.6 trillion, $2 trillion US Fed level corruption spend.

The real problem is that DC is living well beyond its means, sort of
like having an income of $10K/mo but spending $25K/mo. Will not last
long before real trouble starts, and in fact it already has. USD has
lost 30% value in just 4 years against the Yuan.

the real problem is that the right believes supply side mythology so
insists you can cut taxes and balance the budget

The problem is liars like yourself who blame Bush for laws the
democratic house and senate wrote and passed, while now that Obama is in
office, it's the House of Reps, with it's minor majority and no Senate
or Oval office behind them that's responsible.. You are a dip****, your
hypocrisy is only surpassed by the likes of John and Harry Krause...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 22:11:34 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

no one cares what she says. what matters is actiong

and the GOP is destroying america

i have the facts

-tax cut in 2001
-tax cut in 2003
-CSE's that bankrupted the economy

those are actions

they were done by the right wing.

so i have facts

you have fairy tales

I have Pelosi tieing up the congress for two years with gutless
investigations against Scooter Libby while doing everything she could to
raise the price of oil and destroy the economy..

let's see...a record number of filibusters used by the GOP

the even rejected, for head of the chicago federal reserve

a nobel prize winning economist

that's what the right is doing to the US

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 22:17:26 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:36:51 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/06/2011 3:38 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:32:11 -0700, wrote:


It's a bit more nuanced than that, but basically you're right. The
nuance includes both lack of Dem backbone and Republican
obstructionism (the "filibuster" proof senate isn't much of an
argument, since there are wide range of Dems).

now THAT is strue. as folks point out, the dems are far less united in
their hatred of the middle class than the GOP is. the 1st order of
business of the GOP is to destroy the middle class

But the democrats beat the GOP to it, at $14.5 trillion, me thinks
unless something very radical changes, count US DC bankrupt and in
spiral debt.


and this is more right wing bull****

14.5 trillion where? how?

oh. you just heard it somewhere.

lemme know when you get some facts, OK?

Open a newspaper... the debt is 14.5 T... Duh...


gee. and almost none of this is due to obama

but he's black, you see....

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:11:18 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 20:56:16 -0400, wf3h wrote:

really? let's see...since 1980, the GOP controlled the presidency for
22 years.

Actually if you consider the GOP to be "Wall Street", they have
controlled the White House ever since 1981. Who wasn't a Wall street
guy since then? Reagan was probably the least affected by the Wall
street people of the whole bunch.
Bush Clinton Bush & Obama all had the revolving door financial team
from Wall Street to the government and back to Wall Street, rinse
repeat.

agreed. the right has engineered the US political process so it's the
best money can buy

the success of the bush tax cuts
 

On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 22:20:37 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:46:02 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

These are now the Obama tax cuts.

Besides, the amounts were talking about, would be like using tooth picks
to save the titanic after its side was riped open. The cuts are not
that much in the $1.6 trillion, $2 trillion US Fed level corruption spend.

The real problem is that DC is living well beyond its means, sort of
like having an income of $10K/mo but spending $25K/mo. Will not last
long before real trouble starts, and in fact it already has. USD has
lost 30% value in just 4 years against the Yuan.

the real problem is that the right believes supply side mythology so
insists you can cut taxes and balance the budget

The problem is liars like yourself who blame Bush for laws the
democratic house and senate wrote and passed,

hmmm...tax cuts for the rich in 2001 and 2003

the GOP controlled the congress and the presidency

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while now that Obama is in
office, it's the House of Reps, with it's minor majority and no Senate
or Oval office behind them that's responsible.. You are a dip****, your
hypocrisy is only surpassed by the likes of John and Harry Krause...

you know zip about contemporary affairs