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[email protected] June 11th 11 11:39 PM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 17:46:13 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:30:30 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 09/06/2011 6:19 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:10:46 -0600,
wrote:

On 08/06/2011 4:29 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


Rumor has it Obama is itching for a national sales tax. In about the 8%
range. Nothing like leftie-statism greed.

you guys got lots of rumors. hell i wouldnt be surprised if you
thought the rumor was he was a martian

Hey, all ths Obama debt spend has to be paid for somehow.


let's see...the largest components of the deficit are

1. the bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003
2. the trillion dollar iraq war

obama had nothing to do with either


Obama continued both.


He tried and is continuing to try to end tax breaks for the rich and
for corps. Who's blocking him? The GOP.

He's trying to end the Iraq/Afg. wars.

I know. Reality hurts sometimes.


but, of course, the kluxer blames the black guy


"The black guy" as you call him affixed his signature to bills. He could
have stopped both but he didn't have the intestinal fortitude to stand
up and say no.


Yes, he didn't want to tank the US/World economies, so he stabilized
the financial system.


Unless of course he is going to declare the USA bankrupt and eat the
heat that the USA is a failed world currency do to US-Euro banking
corruption. Euro is probably walking dead, we will see, Greece looks
like it is going to welsh big. Iceland is watching people trying to
emigrate after their welshing.


hell why not blame obama for them, too?


Obama's policies would continues the destructive behavior.


They only do so in the short term, because there's no other rational
choice.

[email protected] June 11th 11 11:40 PM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:10:33 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 3:46 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:30:30 -0600,
wrote:

On 09/06/2011 6:19 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:10:46 -0600,
wrote:

On 08/06/2011 4:29 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


Rumor has it Obama is itching for a national sales tax. In about the 8%
range. Nothing like leftie-statism greed.

you guys got lots of rumors. hell i wouldnt be surprised if you
thought the rumor was he was a martian

Hey, all ths Obama debt spend has to be paid for somehow.

let's see...the largest components of the deficit are

1. the bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003
2. the trillion dollar iraq war

obama had nothing to do with either


Obama continued both.

but, of course, the kluxer blames the black guy


"The black guy" as you call him affixed his signature to bills. He could
have stopped both but he didn't have the intestinal fortitude to stand
up and say no.



Unless of course he is going to declare the USA bankrupt and eat the
heat that the USA is a failed world currency do to US-Euro banking
corruption. Euro is probably walking dead, we will see, Greece looks
like it is going to welsh big. Iceland is watching people trying to
emigrate after their welshing.

hell why not blame obama for them, too?


Obama's policies would continues the destructive behavior.


But Obama out spent Bush in about a year. Almost 8 times faster.


You're out stupiding everyone.

[email protected] June 11th 11 11:42 PM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:16:54 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:08:54 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

No, you're just an idiot.


Holy ****, do you ever say anything else? You are like a broken record
with no point, ever.


Darn good parrot however - good "plumage" also.


I thought you wanted to talk about boats? No, you're just a wannabe
nobody.

wf3h[_2_] June 12th 11 01:22 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:02:10 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 08:51:20 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...


a nobel prize winning economist

that's what the right is doing to the US

Trying to slow down Obama and Reid, good for them...


yeah. by eliminating nobel prize winners on the fed

good move.

never let it be said the GOP ever tried to do what's right for the
country


You keep bringing up the Nobel prize, is that supposed to impress me?
About as much as the crown on the head of the king of the Jr. Prom back
in '75...


let's see....which university has the most nobels in economics?

oh....the right wing u. of chicago.

milton friedman

the chicago school

but you're right wing so dont even know your own histor
ry

wf3h[_2_] June 12th 11 01:23 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:14:52 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 10:02 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


a nobel prize winning economist

that's what the right is doing to the US

Trying to slow down Obama and Reid, good for them...

yeah. by eliminating nobel prize winners on the fed

good move.

never let it be said the GOP ever tried to do what's right for the
country


You keep bringing up the Nobel prize, is that supposed to impress me?
About as much as the crown on the head of the king of the Jr. Prom back
in '75...


Obama's nobel prize was a flipping joke.



HAHAHAHAAH he doesn't know the difference between the nobel for
ECONOMICS and PEACE!!!

wf3h[_2_] June 12th 11 01:24 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:15:04 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:30:30 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


Hey, all ths Obama debt spend has to be paid for somehow.


let's see...the largest components of the deficit are

1. the bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003
2. the trillion dollar iraq war

obama had nothing to do with either

but, of course, the kluxer blames the black guy


Unless of course he is going to declare the USA bankrupt and eat the
heat that the USA is a failed world currency do to US-Euro banking
corruption. Euro is probably walking dead, we will see, Greece looks
like it is going to welsh big. Iceland is watching people trying to
emigrate after their welshing.


hell why not blame obama for them, too?


You keep deflecting with your red herring "race"... It's nothing to do
with Obama, it's Pelosi and Reid who refused to allow anything to happen
during Bush,


HAHAAHAHHA let's see..i notice you said NOTHING about points 1 and 2
above. you IGNORED them

and that's why you're a racist



and declared themselves "the do nothing Congress" when
Obama took over. They have lived up to their self made reputation by
doing nothing about jobs, economy, foreign relations, or anything else
concerning a budget since they took over congress during the Bush
admin.. Now the republicans have one house, barely, and you expect them
to fix it when the Obama admin has openly shut them out... stupid...



uh...which house passes the budget??

oh. the representatives

controlled by the GOP

how they doing? what cuts have they made?

oh. none.


wf3h[_2_] June 12th 11 01:27 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 17:46:13 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:30:30 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:
Hey, all ths Obama debt spend has to be paid for somehow.


let's see...the largest components of the deficit are

1. the bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003
2. the trillion dollar iraq war

obama had nothing to do with either


Obama continued both.


let's see...number of troops in iraq under bush

150,000

under obama: zero in december.

that's some continuance.

and the tax cuts? oh. you forgot obama wanted to continue them for the
productive middle class and eliminate them for the leeches.


wf3h[_2_] June 12th 11 01:28 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:10:33 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 3:46 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...


hell why not blame obama for them, too?


Obama's policies would continues the destructive behavior.


But Obama out spent Bush in about a year. Almost 8 times faster.


proof?

oh. none.

another right wing lie

wf3h[_2_] June 12th 11 01:29 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:29:11 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 09/06/2011 8:59 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 22:17:26 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:



and this is more right wing bull****

14.5 trillion where? how?

oh. you just heard it somewhere.

lemme know when you get some facts, OK?

Open a newspaper... the debt is 14.5 T... Duh...



gee. and almost none of this is due to obama

but he's black, you see....


Funny, the day Bush left it was $9.67T, now it is approaching $14.5T,
that means Obama was in office for over $4.5T of it.


bush's last budget deficit:

1.2 trillion

obama's are about 1.3

uh huh. seems that, since there's no difference the only reason you
hate obama is...


wf3h[_2_] June 12th 11 01:30 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:37:31 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 10:04 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 02:09:00 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 23:01:12 -0400, wrote:


but he says the middle class is overpaid and undertaxed while the rich
are taking it on the chin


Might be more accurate to say th rich left in the last 3 years. And are
still doing so.


really?

proof? oh. none.


Some of the companies I own are relocating offshore. Greedy government
taxes. In todays world it is easy to move offshore.


greedy govt taxes?

you mean that the US has the lowest corporate taxes in the OECD and
companies are so greedy this isnt good enough for them?

good. let 'em go

wf3h[_2_] June 12th 11 01:31 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:40:36 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 10:04 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 08:52:10 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...


hmmm...tax cuts for the rich in 2001 and 2003

the GOP controlled the congress and the presidency

t
while now that Obama is in
office, it's the House of Reps, with it's minor majority and no Senate
or Oval office behind them that's responsible.. You are a dip****, your
hypocrisy is only surpassed by the likes of John and Harry Krause...

you know zip about contemporary affairs

And you could care less about truth, just talking points...


and you dont even care about the truth


Tosk is right. Your argument is basted on bu11sh1t and fiction. Fact
is, the bubble has burst and fleabaggers fear what needs to be done to
fix it.'


gee. all you have to do is prove me wrong

go ahead. i'll wait


A massive downsize of government for starters. 50% reduction in size
minimum. The footprint of current government is far too big to support
by the society. Now it can either do it voluntarily and save a lot of
grief, or it can be forced.


meaningless.

and, of course, your method was tried

it was called the depression of 29

ever hear of it??

wf3h[_2_] June 12th 11 01:33 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:34:25 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 09/06/2011 7:59 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:46:02 -0600,
wrote:

the real problem is that the right believes supply side mythology so
insists you can cut taxes and balance the budget


Actually yes. Study the elasticity in pricing, taxes too have
elasticity. Too low or too high and the benefits to society diminish.
Trouble now is that it is too high. Look at any nation having trouble,
some toxic mix of debt and taxes is the issue. Look at any economy
doing well, debt and taxes are much much less.


HAHAHAHAH american taxes are teh lowest they've been in FOURTY YEARS!!

he doesnt even know what the tax rate is in the US!

That is the growing economies of the world have less debt and less taxes.


more reader's digest bull****

wf3h[_2_] June 12th 11 01:35 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:52:55 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 10/06/2011 12:22 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 02:13:37 -0400,
wrote:


ummm...if they're insignifican

why does ALL GOP policy focus on cutting their taxes?

if the amount is so small, why does the GOP refuse to cut taxes unless
they're rincluded??

They are idiots too.


We really needed Obama to veto the whole renewal bill


And the result would have been even more pain for people least able to
handle it.


Actually true. As Mr Rich might move the business elsewhere and the
people who need to work get unemployed.


great. THIS is the economy with the rich running it.

let 'em go and let the middle class reclaim america


I have never hidden why I left USA in 2004, it was economical to do so.
And I was right...


and you went to canada

socialized medicine

more bank regulations than the US

golly.

wf3h[_2_] June 12th 11 01:35 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:54:32 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 10:06 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 02:13:37 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 23:53:16 -


sure is. healthcare for the middle class...financial regulation...as
much as the GOP will let him get

obama proposed a tax cut ONLY for those making less than 250K


The $250k and above tax may be nice symbolism but it is insignificant.


gee. then why does the GOP say only THEY can drive the economy and
only THEY deserve a tax cut?


Roman empire fell when they targeted the rich. Smart ones left, the
others perished and good time were over for everyone.


HAHAHAHA

the rich owned egypt

how'd that work out?


wf3h[_2_] June 12th 11 01:37 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:03:12 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 09/06/2011 8:03 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:00:35 -0600,
wrote:


Now 0.1% is 1:1000. Only about 100M taxpayers. That means the claim is
100,000 people make over $3M/year. First, I seriously question that
number as being far too high, but lets go with it.

100,000 * .5M is only $50B so.... with a $1600B overspend, where do you
suggest the other $1550B comes from?


hey you tell me. you guys cut taxes on the 0.1% and let the normal
working people die on the vine


Hey, you vote for debt, statism and more debt, you have to take what
comes along with it. No road paved with debt comes wealth.


never voted for bush, his last budget was 1.2 TRILLION in debt


No nation or individual before has succeeded with more debt. Not a one.
What makes you fleabaggers think your exempt from reality?


wrong. the US debt at the end of WW2 was higher, as a percentage of
GDP, than it is now

right wing liar bull****ter

I_am_Tosk June 12th 11 02:01 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:02:10 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 08:51:20 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...


a nobel prize winning economist

that's what the right is doing to the US

Trying to slow down Obama and Reid, good for them...

yeah. by eliminating nobel prize winners on the fed

good move.

never let it be said the GOP ever tried to do what's right for the
country


You keep bringing up the Nobel prize, is that supposed to impress me?
About as much as the crown on the head of the king of the Jr. Prom back
in '75...


let's see....which university has the most nobels in economics?

oh....the right wing u. of chicago.

milton friedman

the chicago school

but you're right wing so dont even know your own histor
ry


So, are you suggesting that because it was a great honor years ago, that
it couldn't have changed to something else lately? That's either short
sighted, or dishonest.. Oh wait, don't tell me....

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

I_am_Tosk June 12th 11 02:02 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:14:52 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 10:02 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


a nobel prize winning economist

that's what the right is doing to the US

Trying to slow down Obama and Reid, good for them...

yeah. by eliminating nobel prize winners on the fed

good move.

never let it be said the GOP ever tried to do what's right for the
country

You keep bringing up the Nobel prize, is that supposed to impress me?
About as much as the crown on the head of the king of the Jr. Prom back
in '75...


Obama's nobel prize was a flipping joke.



HAHAHAHAAH he doesn't know the difference between the nobel for
ECONOMICS and PEACE!!!


Ha, hahahahahaha, who ****ing cares.. You still have a joke prize given
to a joke president...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

I_am_Tosk June 12th 11 02:04 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:15:04 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:30:30 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


Hey, all ths Obama debt spend has to be paid for somehow.

let's see...the largest components of the deficit are

1. the bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003
2. the trillion dollar iraq war

obama had nothing to do with either

but, of course, the kluxer blames the black guy


Unless of course he is going to declare the USA bankrupt and eat the
heat that the USA is a failed world currency do to US-Euro banking
corruption. Euro is probably walking dead, we will see, Greece looks
like it is going to welsh big. Iceland is watching people trying to
emigrate after their welshing.

hell why not blame obama for them, too?


You keep deflecting with your red herring "race"... It's nothing to do
with Obama, it's Pelosi and Reid who refused to allow anything to happen
during Bush,


HAHAAHAHHA let's see..i notice you said NOTHING about points 1 and 2
above. you IGNORED them

and that's why you're a racist



and declared themselves "the do nothing Congress" when
Obama took over. They have lived up to their self made reputation by
doing nothing about jobs, economy, foreign relations, or anything else
concerning a budget since they took over congress during the Bush
admin.. Now the republicans have one house, barely, and you expect them
to fix it when the Obama admin has openly shut them out... stupid...



uh...which house passes the budget??

oh. the representatives

controlled by the GOP

how they doing? what cuts have they made?

oh. none.


You make no sense...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

I_am_Tosk June 12th 11 02:05 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:10:33 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 3:46 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...


hell why not blame obama for them, too?

Obama's policies would continues the destructive behavior.


But Obama out spent Bush in about a year. Almost 8 times faster.


proof?

oh. none.

another right wing lie


Just because you refuse to look at the figures, well, except the ones
the Huffignton Hoax posts, is not our fault...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

Harryk June 12th 11 02:16 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On 6/11/11 9:01 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:02:10 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 08:51:20 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...


a nobel prize winning economist

that's what the right is doing to the US

Trying to slow down Obama and Reid, good for them...

yeah. by eliminating nobel prize winners on the fed

good move.

never let it be said the GOP ever tried to do what's right for the
country

You keep bringing up the Nobel prize, is that supposed to impress me?
About as much as the crown on the head of the king of the Jr. Prom back
in '75...


let's see....which university has the most nobels in economics?

oh....the right wing u. of chicago.

milton friedman

the chicago school

but you're right wing so dont even know your own histor
ry


So, are you suggesting that because it was a great honor years ago, that
it couldn't have changed to something else lately? That's either short
sighted, or dishonest.. Oh wait, don't tell me....


It's the height of irony when the dumbest, least educated poster in
rec.boats passes judgment on Nobel laureates.

--
Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where
personal insults are not allowed?

http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing

wf3h[_2_] June 12th 11 02:31 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:01:12 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

yeah. by eliminating nobel prize winners on the fed

good move.

never let it be said the GOP ever tried to do what's right for the
country

You keep bringing up the Nobel prize, is that supposed to impress me?
About as much as the crown on the head of the king of the Jr. Prom back
in '75...


let's see....which university has the most nobels in economics?

oh....the right wing u. of chicago.

milton friedman

the chicago school

but you're right wing so dont even know your own histor
ry


So, are you suggesting that because it was a great honor years ago, that
it couldn't have changed to something else lately? That's either short
sighted, or dishonest.. Oh wait, don't tell me....


'years ago'

means when the right controlled the bull****. now that it's shown the
right is bankrupt you guys complain about the prize

go figure


wf3h[_2_] June 12th 11 02:32 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:05:45 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:10:33 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 3:46 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...


hell why not blame obama for them, too?

Obama's policies would continues the destructive behavior.

But Obama out spent Bush in about a year. Almost 8 times faster.


proof?

oh. none.

another right wing lie


Just because you refuse to look at the figures, well, except the ones
the Huffignton Hoax posts, is not our fault...



let's see...

your proof that obama outspent bush is....nothing

then you spin this into proof that he's bankrupting the US

uh huh

I_am_Tosk June 12th 11 02:40 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:01:12 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

yeah. by eliminating nobel prize winners on the fed

good move.

never let it be said the GOP ever tried to do what's right for the
country

You keep bringing up the Nobel prize, is that supposed to impress me?
About as much as the crown on the head of the king of the Jr. Prom back
in '75...

let's see....which university has the most nobels in economics?

oh....the right wing u. of chicago.

milton friedman

the chicago school

but you're right wing so dont even know your own histor
ry


So, are you suggesting that because it was a great honor years ago, that
it couldn't have changed to something else lately? That's either short
sighted, or dishonest.. Oh wait, don't tell me....


'years ago'

means when the right controlled the bull****. now that it's shown the
right is bankrupt you guys complain about the prize

go figure


You are delusional...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

I_am_Tosk June 12th 11 02:41 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:05:45 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:10:33 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 3:46 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...


hell why not blame obama for them, too?

Obama's policies would continues the destructive behavior.

But Obama out spent Bush in about a year. Almost 8 times faster.

proof?

oh. none.

another right wing lie


Just because you refuse to look at the figures, well, except the ones
the Huffignton Hoax posts, is not our fault...



let's see...

your proof that obama outspent bush is....nothing

then you spin this into proof that he's bankrupting the US

uh huh


Now you are just making up stuff as you go along.. Bye, bye...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

I_am_Tosk June 12th 11 01:38 PM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:27:31 -0400, wf3h wrote:

1. the bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003
2. the trillion dollar iraq war

obama had nothing to do with either

Obama continued both.


let's see...number of troops in iraq under bush

150,000

under obama: zero in december.

that's some continuance.


Actually it will be about 50,000. The quibble about whether they are
"combat" soldiers is ridiculous when most are killed by road side
bombs, not combat.


Oh, is that what she was dribbling about with the "zero"? Is that kind
of like the "not war" we are fighting in Libya?

and the tax cuts? oh. you forgot obama wanted to continue them for the
productive middle class and eliminate them for the leeches.


83% of the cost of the Bush tax cut was the people who made less than
$250k. The amount of money that would be recovered if they raised the
taxes of the $250k and up people was doubled by the 14% payroll tax
cut.
The total cost of the Obama tax cut is over a half trillion dollars a
year. That alone is close to half or our deficit.


In two years and she claims Obama isn't a big spender.. The woman is
just dishonest, period...



--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

Jay[_5_] June 12th 11 02:05 PM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On 6/12/2011 8:38 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:27:31 -0400, wrote:

1. the bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003
2. the trillion dollar iraq war

obama had nothing to do with either

Obama continued both.

let's see...number of troops in iraq under bush

150,000

under obama: zero in december.

that's some continuance.


Actually it will be about 50,000. The quibble about whether they are
"combat" soldiers is ridiculous when most are killed by road side
bombs, not combat.


Oh, is that what she was dribbling about with the "zero"? Is that kind
of like the "not war" we are fighting in Libya?

and the tax cuts? oh. you forgot obama wanted to continue them for the
productive middle class and eliminate them for the leeches.


83% of the cost of the Bush tax cut was the people who made less than
$250k. The amount of money that would be recovered if they raised the
taxes of the $250k and up people was doubled by the 14% payroll tax
cut.
The total cost of the Obama tax cut is over a half trillion dollars a
year. That alone is close to half or our deficit.


In two years and she claims Obama isn't a big spender.. The woman is
just dishonest, period...



I assume it's plume you're talking about. We've hasd some decent woman
contributors over the years. Peggy brought sanitation systems expertise.
Delores brought knowledge from her power squadron. Karen held her own
with the best of them when discussing outboard design and engineering.
They all upstaged Harry and it ****ed him off. Plume is a different
story. She brings zip zero nothing to Rec.boats except for a bad
attitude. She, like Harry, Jps, Bob, and Don are as useless to rec.boats
as tits on a bull. Out of that group, Bob is the only one who
occasionally will ask for help or discuss boating adventures.

wf3h[_2_] June 12th 11 05:32 PM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:40:01 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:02:02 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:14:52 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


Ha, hahahahahaha, who ****ing cares.. You still have a joke prize given
to a joke president...


the right doesnt care because it shows you guys are a lost cause


What, because we don't care about a popularity contest? Pfffftt. You
obviously don't have any real argument...


let's see...you guys run the country

no wonder you dont care about 'popularity' contests

wf3h[_2_] June 12th 11 05:36 PM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 01:14:07 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:27:31 -0400, wf3h wrote:

1. the bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003
2. the trillion dollar iraq war

obama had nothing to do with either


and the tax cuts? oh. you forgot obama wanted to continue them for the
productive middle class and eliminate them for the leeches.


83% of the cost of the Bush tax cut was the people who made less than
$250k. The amount of money that would be recovered if they raised the
taxes of the $250k and up people was doubled by the 14% payroll tax
cut.
The total cost of the Obama tax cut is over a half trillion dollars a
year. That alone is close to half or our deficit.


and the richest 1% have had a 500% increase in wages in the past 30
years while middle class wages were stagnant.

so you're saying the middle class should have a tax increase even
though the richest 1% have had the biggest wage increases?

interesting. more pro-rape of the middel class by the right

wf3h[_2_] June 12th 11 05:37 PM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 01:15:39 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:33:22 -0400, wf3h wrote:

HAHAHAHAH american taxes are teh lowest they've been in FOURTY YEARS!!



Yet you support a half trillion dollar Obama tax cut.

Is it just because he isn't white?


yep. because the middle class hasnt had a pay increase in 30 years

while the richest 1% have had their wages go up by 500%

want to know why we're in a depression?

read those numbers

wf3h[_2_] June 12th 11 05:38 PM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 01:18:20 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:37:22 -0400, wf3h wrote:

No nation or individual before has succeeded with more debt. Not a one.
What makes you fleabaggers think your exempt from reality?


wrong. the US debt at the end of WW2 was higher, as a percentage of
GDP, than it is now


Apples and oranges. If we could bomb the rest of the world back to the
stone age like we did in WWII while remaining the biggest industrial
power on the planet it would be significant.


wrong, as usual.

we're comparing debt to debt. i realize that you, being right wing,
arent a logical thinker, but DO try to stay on track

I_am_Tosk June 12th 11 05:53 PM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:40:01 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:02:02 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:14:52 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


Ha, hahahahahaha, who ****ing cares.. You still have a joke prize given
to a joke president...

the right doesnt care because it shows you guys are a lost cause


What, because we don't care about a popularity contest? Pfffftt. You
obviously don't have any real argument...


let's see...you guys run the country

no wonder you dont care about 'popularity' contests


Still more bull****. The democrats have had majorities in the three
corners of washington for the last 40 years.... So, you are still full
of ****..

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

[email protected] June 12th 11 06:20 PM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 01:14:07 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:27:31 -0400, wf3h wrote:

1. the bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003
2. the trillion dollar iraq war

obama had nothing to do with either

Obama continued both.


let's see...number of troops in iraq under bush

150,000

under obama: zero in december.

that's some continuance.


Actually it will be about 50,000. The quibble about whether they are
"combat" soldiers is ridiculous when most are killed by road side
bombs, not combat.


Actually, we are continuing to follow the agreement to draw down those
stationed there. Of course, that's not good enough, since you don't
care what happens in Iraq now that Bush broke it.

and the tax cuts? oh. you forgot obama wanted to continue them for the
productive middle class and eliminate them for the leeches.


83% of the cost of the Bush tax cut was the people who made less than
$250k. The amount of money that would be recovered if they raised the
taxes of the $250k and up people was doubled by the 14% payroll tax
cut.
The total cost of the Obama tax cut is over a half trillion dollars a
year. That alone is close to half or our deficit.


Cite? Doubt it.

[email protected] June 12th 11 06:21 PM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:37:37 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 01:15:39 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:33:22 -0400, wf3h wrote:

HAHAHAHAH american taxes are teh lowest they've been in FOURTY YEARS!!



Yet you support a half trillion dollar Obama tax cut.

Is it just because he isn't white?


yep. because the middle class hasnt had a pay increase in 30 years

while the richest 1% have had their wages go up by 500%

want to know why we're in a depression?

read those numbers


Reality is too much for him.

[email protected] June 12th 11 06:22 PM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:38:26 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 01:18:20 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:37:22 -0400, wf3h wrote:

No nation or individual before has succeeded with more debt. Not a one.
What makes you fleabaggers think your exempt from reality?

wrong. the US debt at the end of WW2 was higher, as a percentage of
GDP, than it is now


Apples and oranges. If we could bomb the rest of the world back to the
stone age like we did in WWII while remaining the biggest industrial
power on the planet it would be significant.


wrong, as usual.

we're comparing debt to debt. i realize that you, being right wing,
arent a logical thinker, but DO try to stay on track


Unemployment was higher in the 80s. And, we had stagflation. But, the
world is ending now... May 22... oh wait.


[email protected] June 12th 11 07:51 PM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:00:09 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:38:26 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 01:18:20 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:37:22 -0400, wf3h wrote:

No nation or individual before has succeeded with more debt. Not a one.
What makes you fleabaggers think your exempt from reality?

wrong. the US debt at the end of WW2 was higher, as a percentage of
GDP, than it is now

Apples and oranges. If we could bomb the rest of the world back to the
stone age like we did in WWII while remaining the biggest industrial
power on the planet it would be significant.


wrong, as usual.

we're comparing debt to debt. i realize that you, being right wing,
arent a logical thinker, but DO try to stay on track


You can't compare debt to debt without comparing the growth of GDP and
productivity. Are you really trying to say the US is in as good a
competitive shape as it was in 1946?

In 1946 there was no industry in Germany, Japan, India or China.
Brazil was a jungle and SE Asia was still trying to get out of a grass
skirt and coconut based economy.

Another important thing is, in 1946 virtually all of that debt was
held by AMERICANS.

If this doesn't make sense to you I guess you have to go in the bozo
bin with plume.


According to Jack Welsh, a Republican, times were much worse in the
1980s.

Feel free to pretend to ignore my posts. You've shown yourself to be
rather thin skinned and refuse or are unable to defend your
nonsensical arguments.

Jay[_5_] June 12th 11 08:31 PM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On 6/12/2011 2:51 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:00:09 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:38:26 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 01:18:20 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:37:22 -0400, wrote:

No nation or individual before has succeeded with more debt. Not a one.
What makes you fleabaggers think your exempt from reality?

wrong. the US debt at the end of WW2 was higher, as a percentage of
GDP, than it is now

Apples and oranges. If we could bomb the rest of the world back to the
stone age like we did in WWII while remaining the biggest industrial
power on the planet it would be significant.

wrong, as usual.

we're comparing debt to debt. i realize that you, being right wing,
arent a logical thinker, but DO try to stay on track


You can't compare debt to debt without comparing the growth of GDP and
productivity. Are you really trying to say the US is in as good a
competitive shape as it was in 1946?

In 1946 there was no industry in Germany, Japan, India or China.
Brazil was a jungle and SE Asia was still trying to get out of a grass
skirt and coconut based economy.

Another important thing is, in 1946 virtually all of that debt was
held by AMERICANS.

If this doesn't make sense to you I guess you have to go in the bozo
bin with plume.


According to Jack Welsh, a Republican, times were much worse in the
1980s.

Feel free to pretend to ignore my posts. You've shown yourself to be
rather thin skinned and refuse or are unable to defend your
nonsensical arguments.


Greg in his infinite wisdom has learned that arguing with you is an
exercise in futility

I_am_Tosk June 12th 11 09:08 PM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
In article , says...

On 6/12/2011 2:51 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:00:09 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:38:26 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 01:18:20 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:37:22 -0400, wrote:

No nation or individual before has succeeded with more debt. Not a one.
What makes you fleabaggers think your exempt from reality?

wrong. the US debt at the end of WW2 was higher, as a percentage of
GDP, than it is now

Apples and oranges. If we could bomb the rest of the world back to the
stone age like we did in WWII while remaining the biggest industrial
power on the planet it would be significant.

wrong, as usual.

we're comparing debt to debt. i realize that you, being right wing,
arent a logical thinker, but DO try to stay on track

You can't compare debt to debt without comparing the growth of GDP and
productivity. Are you really trying to say the US is in as good a
competitive shape as it was in 1946?

In 1946 there was no industry in Germany, Japan, India or China.
Brazil was a jungle and SE Asia was still trying to get out of a grass
skirt and coconut based economy.

Another important thing is, in 1946 virtually all of that debt was
held by AMERICANS.

If this doesn't make sense to you I guess you have to go in the bozo
bin with plume.


According to Jack Welsh, a Republican, times were much worse in the
1980s.

Feel free to pretend to ignore my posts. You've shown yourself to be
rather thin skinned and refuse or are unable to defend your
nonsensical arguments.


Greg in his infinite wisdom has learned that arguing with you is an
exercise in futility


How do you argue with a liar?

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

Canuck57[_9_] June 12th 11 11:52 PM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On 11/06/2011 6:23 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:14:52 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 10:02 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


a nobel prize winning economist

that's what the right is doing to the US

Trying to slow down Obama and Reid, good for them...

yeah. by eliminating nobel prize winners on the fed

good move.

never let it be said the GOP ever tried to do what's right for the
country

You keep bringing up the Nobel prize, is that supposed to impress me?
About as much as the crown on the head of the king of the Jr. Prom back
in '75...


Obama's nobel prize was a flipping joke.



HAHAHAHAAH he doesn't know the difference between the nobel for
ECONOMICS and PEACE!!!


Never questioned how Obama got one yet did nothing yet but promise and
bu11sh1t a lot?

--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

Canuck57[_9_] June 13th 11 12:04 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On 11/06/2011 6:24 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:15:04 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:30:30 -0600,
wrote:


Hey, all ths Obama debt spend has to be paid for somehow.

let's see...the largest components of the deficit are

1. the bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003
2. the trillion dollar iraq war

obama had nothing to do with either

but, of course, the kluxer blames the black guy


Unless of course he is going to declare the USA bankrupt and eat the
heat that the USA is a failed world currency do to US-Euro banking
corruption. Euro is probably walking dead, we will see, Greece looks
like it is going to welsh big. Iceland is watching people trying to
emigrate after their welshing.

hell why not blame obama for them, too?


You keep deflecting with your red herring "race"... It's nothing to do
with Obama, it's Pelosi and Reid who refused to allow anything to happen
during Bush,


HAHAAHAHHA let's see..i notice you said NOTHING about points 1 and 2
above. you IGNORED them

and that's why you're a racist



and declared themselves "the do nothing Congress" when
Obama took over. They have lived up to their self made reputation by
doing nothing about jobs, economy, foreign relations, or anything else
concerning a budget since they took over congress during the Bush
admin.. Now the republicans have one house, barely, and you expect them
to fix it when the Obama admin has openly shut them out... stupid...



uh...which house passes the budget??

oh. the representatives

controlled by the GOP

how they doing? what cuts have they made?

oh. none.


Jury is on on this, are they going to expand the debt past $14.5 trillion?

If I were the GOP, I would let 75% of the government shut down for 3
months. And only expand it a bit forcing the issue, debt spend less now
or be off work every 3 months.
--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

Canuck57[_9_] June 13th 11 12:05 AM

the success of the bush tax cuts
 
On 11/06/2011 6:25 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:50:56 -0600,
wrote:

So you voted for Obama because he was black in the ruse that you wanted
to prove you were not racist. Ok, I can live with that. But prove your
not an idiot and in 2012 vote for anyone but Obama.



let's seee

bush's last budget was 1.2 TRILLION In debt

a 1 TRILLION war

HUGE Tax cuts for the rich

and he thinks we voted for obama 'cuz he's black!


Sure did for Hank Johnson, I can think of no other reason to vote for
that fool.

--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.


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