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On Fri, 20 May 2011 14:37:43 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 20 May 2011 11:36:20 -0400,
wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 20 May 2011 06:53:57 -0400,
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2011 22:35:44 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...
On 19/05/2011 5:28 PM, L G wrote:
John H wrote:
....if enough people see this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKdSc...layer_embedded

Obama made some great points here. Wonder what happened?
Typical liberal spin. They NEVER admit when they are wrong unless it's
in a deposition and that's debatable.
Even Anderson on 360 tonight sounded a little annoyed at Obama really
taking a lot of time to saying nothing at all today.
What he said was he is selling out Israel.
He is reacting to the new reality what is coming out of all the Arab
"freedom". We are running out of friends there. the Saudis and
Pakistanis are negotiating with China now, looking for a better
partner.
The Palestinians are saying that they are going to start non-violent
protests like the Egyptians and Libyans used and make the Israelis
shoot them to make them stop. They are seeing that may actually be
more effective than rocks or even rockets.
The real question is if they can hold Hamas back.

Aipac has put a target on Obama's back tho and that may actually be
the best chance of a GOP victory.
A GOP victory in 2012? Well, I guess anything is possible. I would enjoy
seeing Michele Bachmann on the ticket.

I expect that in the end we will see the typical GOP white guy with a
solid neocon pedigree who will promise to keep the wars going on in
the middle east, all the while, complaining about runaway government
spending and the soaring price of oil.

I still would not be surprised if Obama got a primary challenge.

In politics, 18 months is an eternity and a lot can happen.

In the GOP, the question most interesting to me is whether the
nominee will be someone near reasonable, such as Romney, Pawlenty, et
cetera, or whether it will be one of the teabagger crazy types. I am
*so* hoping for Michele Bachmann to be on the ticket. :)

2012 may pretty much be it for the GOP as a party competitive in the
presidential race. Shifting demographics and the hate the GOP'ers have
and express for the growing numbers of minority groups *and* the
craziness of the teabaggers may well spell the end.

I don't see any *serious* primary challengers on the horizon for Obama.
Sure, someone might run in a couple of them, just for the hell of it,
but a serious challenger, meaning one who might have a chance of
unseating Obama? Naw.


If someone was going to take a swing at Obama from his side I would
expect it to be Hillary or someone from her camp like Schumer. Maybe
even a wild card like Debbie. You need a neocon liberal. (A socialist
hawk)


Debbie Wasserman-Schultz? If Biden decides to retire, she'd be at the
top of my list...smart, articulate, Floridian, liberal, and the perfect
intellectual foil for GOP dumb bunnies like Palin and Bachmann.

Of course, she's Jewish...having a female Jewish veep candidate on the
ticket with a Kenyan-born Muslim...well, she won't get the teabagger
vote. :)


She is one awesome chick! Right now would be a good time, since it's
doubtful the Dems will retake the House in 2012.

Gas prices - maybe boating will get cheaper...
 

On 20/05/2011 10:02 AM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 19/05/2011 8:35 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 19/05/2011 5:28 PM, L G wrote:
John H wrote:
....if enough people see this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKdSc...layer_embedded

Obama made some great points here. Wonder what happened?
Typical liberal spin. They NEVER admit when they are wrong unless it's
in a deposition and that's debatable.

Even Anderson on 360 tonight sounded a little annoyed at Obama really
taking a lot of time to saying nothing at all today.

What he said was he is selling out Israel.

True, but Americans, especially Obama seem to be forgetting on 9/11 (and
other occasions) the middle east, including Arabs, Pakistan, Iran and
others were jumping up and down in glee at the 9/11 carnage.

To forgive is divine, to forget tis stupid. Obama has pretty much
desstroyed US international relations.

Yet another absurdity.

Obama is trying to get the Palestinians back to the peace talk table,
and to head off their effort this fall to try to obtain statehood via UN
mandate. Everyone involved in the discussions, all sides, are aware that
any meaningful settlement will involve going back to some variation of
the 1967 borders. Obama's idea of a "land swap" is clever.

You and your buddies seem better equipped to discuss issues in which
there is no historical or contemporary content extant.

I don't think there is much chance of a real Israeli-Palestinian peace
accord, but people of good will, such as Obama and Clinton before him,
are obliged to try to get the parties talking. Dubya Bush, of course,
for the post part ignored the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He was busy
waging war on a fifth-rate country that did not attack us on 9-11 and
did not have WMD's.

It isn't about good will, it is about a sellout. Islam has declared
Israel an enemy of state. Reminds me of "peac in our time pre-WW II.

Maybe give Alaska back to the Russians while you are at it. And the US
Canadian border to the west should be a few degrees south.

Maybe give the Mexicans California and Texas back.

It doesn't end.

--
Take a look at ANY country, more debt is more problems. So why do we
allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial, ignorance?

Gas prices - maybe boating will get cheaper...
 

Canuck57 wrote:
On 20/05/2011 10:02 AM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 19/05/2011 8:35 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 19/05/2011 5:28 PM, L G wrote:
John H wrote:
....if enough people see this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKdSc...layer_embedded

Obama made some great points here. Wonder what happened?
Typical liberal spin. They NEVER admit when they are wrong unless
it's
in a deposition and that's debatable.

Even Anderson on 360 tonight sounded a little annoyed at Obama really
taking a lot of time to saying nothing at all today.

What he said was he is selling out Israel.

True, but Americans, especially Obama seem to be forgetting on 9/11 (and
other occasions) the middle east, including Arabs, Pakistan, Iran and
others were jumping up and down in glee at the 9/11 carnage.

To forgive is divine, to forget tis stupid. Obama has pretty much
desstroyed US international relations.

Yet another absurdity.

Obama is trying to get the Palestinians back to the peace talk table,
and to head off their effort this fall to try to obtain statehood via UN
mandate. Everyone involved in the discussions, all sides, are aware that
any meaningful settlement will involve going back to some variation of
the 1967 borders. Obama's idea of a "land swap" is clever.

You and your buddies seem better equipped to discuss issues in which
there is no historical or contemporary content extant.

I don't think there is much chance of a real Israeli-Palestinian peace
accord, but people of good will, such as Obama and Clinton before him,
are obliged to try to get the parties talking. Dubya Bush, of course,
for the post part ignored the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He was busy
waging war on a fifth-rate country that did not attack us on 9-11 and
did not have WMD's.

It isn't about good will, it is about a sellout. Islam has declared
Israel an enemy of state. Reminds me of "peac in our time pre-WW II.

Maybe give Alaska back to the Russians while you are at it. And the US
Canadian border to the west should be a few degrees south.

Maybe give the Mexicans California and Texas back.

It doesn't end.



Your understanding of foreign affairs is non-existent. Peace can be made
out of concessions. Israel is at peace with Egypt and Jordan. Your
examples of Canada-Russia-USA-Mexico are non-sensical.

Gas prices - maybe boating will get cheaper...
 

On Fri, 20 May 2011 14:55:40 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

Canuck57 wrote:
On 20/05/2011 10:02 AM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 19/05/2011 8:35 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 19/05/2011 5:28 PM, L G wrote:
John H wrote:
....if enough people see this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKdSc...layer_embedded

Obama made some great points here. Wonder what happened?
Typical liberal spin. They NEVER admit when they are wrong unless
it's
in a deposition and that's debatable.

Even Anderson on 360 tonight sounded a little annoyed at Obama really
taking a lot of time to saying nothing at all today.

What he said was he is selling out Israel.

True, but Americans, especially Obama seem to be forgetting on 9/11 (and
other occasions) the middle east, including Arabs, Pakistan, Iran and
others were jumping up and down in glee at the 9/11 carnage.

To forgive is divine, to forget tis stupid. Obama has pretty much
desstroyed US international relations.

Yet another absurdity.

Obama is trying to get the Palestinians back to the peace talk table,
and to head off their effort this fall to try to obtain statehood via UN
mandate. Everyone involved in the discussions, all sides, are aware that
any meaningful settlement will involve going back to some variation of
the 1967 borders. Obama's idea of a "land swap" is clever.

You and your buddies seem better equipped to discuss issues in which
there is no historical or contemporary content extant.

I don't think there is much chance of a real Israeli-Palestinian peace
accord, but people of good will, such as Obama and Clinton before him,
are obliged to try to get the parties talking. Dubya Bush, of course,
for the post part ignored the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He was busy
waging war on a fifth-rate country that did not attack us on 9-11 and
did not have WMD's.

It isn't about good will, it is about a sellout. Islam has declared
Israel an enemy of state. Reminds me of "peac in our time pre-WW II.

Maybe give Alaska back to the Russians while you are at it. And the US
Canadian border to the west should be a few degrees south.

Maybe give the Mexicans California and Texas back.

It doesn't end.



Your understanding of foreign affairs is non-existent. Peace can be made
out of concessions. Israel is at peace with Egypt and Jordan. Your
examples of Canada-Russia-USA-Mexico are non-sensical.

Knuckles is a chuckle-head.

Gas prices - maybe boating will get cheaper...
 

"Canuck57" wrote in message ...

On 20/05/2011 10:02 AM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 19/05/2011 8:35 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 19/05/2011 5:28 PM, L G wrote:
John H wrote:
....if enough people see this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKdSc...layer_embedded

Obama made some great points here. Wonder what happened?
Typical liberal spin. They NEVER admit when they are wrong unless it's
in a deposition and that's debatable.

Even Anderson on 360 tonight sounded a little annoyed at Obama really
taking a lot of time to saying nothing at all today.

What he said was he is selling out Israel.

True, but Americans, especially Obama seem to be forgetting on 9/11 (and
other occasions) the middle east, including Arabs, Pakistan, Iran and
others were jumping up and down in glee at the 9/11 carnage.

To forgive is divine, to forget tis stupid. Obama has pretty much
desstroyed US international relations.

Yet another absurdity.

Obama is trying to get the Palestinians back to the peace talk table,
and to head off their effort this fall to try to obtain statehood via UN
mandate. Everyone involved in the discussions, all sides, are aware that
any meaningful settlement will involve going back to some variation of
the 1967 borders. Obama's idea of a "land swap" is clever.

You and your buddies seem better equipped to discuss issues in which
there is no historical or contemporary content extant.

I don't think there is much chance of a real Israeli-Palestinian peace
accord, but people of good will, such as Obama and Clinton before him,
are obliged to try to get the parties talking. Dubya Bush, of course,
for the post part ignored the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He was busy
waging war on a fifth-rate country that did not attack us on 9-11 and
did not have WMD's.

It isn't about good will, it is about a sellout. Islam has declared
Israel an enemy of state. Reminds me of "peac in our time pre-WW II.

Maybe give Alaska back to the Russians while you are at it. And the US
Canadian border to the west should be a few degrees south.

Maybe give the Mexicans California and Texas back.

It doesn't end.

--


I'd be happy if we got the northern third of Maine back.
Having them stuck in the way forces us to drive quite a bit north in New
Brunswick before we can head back on a west-southwest course to central
Canada.

Gas prices - maybe boating will get cheaper...
 

On 20/05/2011 10:55 AM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 20/05/2011 9:49 AM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 20/05/2011 8:50 AM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 20/05/2011 4:53 AM, Harryk wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2011 22:35:44 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...
On 19/05/2011 5:28 PM, L G wrote:
John H wrote:
....if enough people see this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKdSc...layer_embedded




Obama made some great points here. Wonder what happened?
Typical liberal spin. They NEVER admit when they are wrong
unless
it's
in a deposition and that's debatable.
Even Anderson on 360 tonight sounded a little annoyed at Obama
really
taking a lot of time to saying nothing at all today.
What he said was he is selling out Israel.

He is reacting to the new reality what is coming out of all the
Arab
"freedom". We are running out of friends there. the Saudis and
Pakistanis are negotiating with China now, looking for a better
partner.
The Palestinians are saying that they are going to start
non-violent
protests like the Egyptians and Libyans used and make the Israelis
shoot them to make them stop. They are seeing that may actually be
more effective than rocks or even rockets.
The real question is if they can hold Hamas back.

Aipac has put a target on Obama's back tho and that may actually be
the best chance of a GOP victory.


A GOP victory in 2012? Well, I guess anything is possible. I would
enjoy
seeing Michele Bachmann on the ticket.

Who knows, Hank Johnson could be VP right?


Who?

This democratic idiot -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCTYsmz8ook



You mean when he said the island might tip over and capsize?

If you took that literally, you are a bigger fool than you think Johnson
is. He had an obvious twinkle in his eye when he said it.

Face it, if he was white-GOP you would be all over him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuZFT76uxoc&NR=1

Pretty obvious this representative uses his race and the race card to
get elected.

Forrest Gump comes off better. Hank needs a drug test.


If you weren't a racist, you wouldn't be so eager to go after black
legislators.

If Bachmann, Palin, et cetera, were black GOP'ers, I'd still point out
they were idiots.

Where did race come into this? Are you playing racism yourself harry?
Come now, just because someone doesn't agree with your fleabagger ideas
does not mean they are a racist. Only a racist would think that.

Perhaps you should be charged for insignificant racism where there is none.

--
Take a look at ANY country, more debt is more problems. So why do we
allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial, ignorance?

Gas prices - maybe boating will get cheaper...
 

On 20/05/2011 1:58 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 May 2011 12:49:41 -0600,
wrote:

It isn't about good will, it is about a sellout. Islam has declared
Israel an enemy of state. Reminds me of "peac in our time pre-WW II.

Maybe give Alaska back to the Russians while you are at it. And the US
Canadian border to the west should be a few degrees south.

Maybe give the Mexicans California and Texas back.

It doesn't end.

In this case it would be more like letting the Germans keep Poland but
the Texas California situation might be similar. We took that as the
spoils of war.
(We bought Alaska)
I really thought the idea of wars of conquest went out since the 40s
when we gave everything back that we took in WWII. In fact the US has
given back virtually everything it has taken in war since 1898. We
pretty much only have Puerto Rico and a small patch in Cuba today.

The only lasting peace in the middle east will have to start at the
1967 borders.

Fact is, go back far enough, Israel has claim. Islam fascism didn't get
brewing until 630AD....

So picking some arbitrary point in time between then and now...sort of
arrogant of Obama to say that. If I was Israel, I would open up talks
with the Russians and Chinese.... US is an UNRELIABLE ally.

--
Take a look at ANY country, more debt is more problems. So why do we
allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial, ignorance?

Gas prices - maybe boating will get cheaper...
 

On 20/05/2011 12:55 PM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 20/05/2011 10:02 AM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 19/05/2011 8:35 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 19/05/2011 5:28 PM, L G wrote:
John H wrote:
....if enough people see this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKdSc...layer_embedded

Obama made some great points here. Wonder what happened?
Typical liberal spin. They NEVER admit when they are wrong unless
it's
in a deposition and that's debatable.

Even Anderson on 360 tonight sounded a little annoyed at Obama really
taking a lot of time to saying nothing at all today.

What he said was he is selling out Israel.

True, but Americans, especially Obama seem to be forgetting on 9/11
(and
other occasions) the middle east, including Arabs, Pakistan, Iran and
others were jumping up and down in glee at the 9/11 carnage.

To forgive is divine, to forget tis stupid. Obama has pretty much
desstroyed US international relations.

Yet another absurdity.

Obama is trying to get the Palestinians back to the peace talk table,
and to head off their effort this fall to try to obtain statehood via UN
mandate. Everyone involved in the discussions, all sides, are aware that
any meaningful settlement will involve going back to some variation of
the 1967 borders. Obama's idea of a "land swap" is clever.

You and your buddies seem better equipped to discuss issues in which
there is no historical or contemporary content extant.

I don't think there is much chance of a real Israeli-Palestinian peace
accord, but people of good will, such as Obama and Clinton before him,
are obliged to try to get the parties talking. Dubya Bush, of course,
for the post part ignored the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He was busy
waging war on a fifth-rate country that did not attack us on 9-11 and
did not have WMD's.

It isn't about good will, it is about a sellout. Islam has declared
Israel an enemy of state. Reminds me of "peac in our time pre-WW II.

Maybe give Alaska back to the Russians while you are at it. And the US
Canadian border to the west should be a few degrees south.

Maybe give the Mexicans California and Texas back.

It doesn't end.



Your understanding of foreign affairs is non-existent. Peace can be made
out of concessions. Israel is at peace with Egypt and Jordan. Your
examples of Canada-Russia-USA-Mexico are non-sensical.

Peace with honor? Peace in our time?

Fancy names for sellouts.

They are not. Spanish were all around these areas and American fought
them back. Alaska was acquired from Russia....

Trouble is Obama be a hypocrite. Didn't get American history until what
13? Or was it 12?

Obama is doing a pretty good job, Libya, Tunisia, Egypt in a mess. No
more US relations here. And I don't care what the US propaganda
machines kick out, Obama is trying to assassinate a foreign leader
without warrant, without a war declaration....Kadafi didn't do squat.
If he did, Obama isn't say what. Probably told Obama to stuff it.
--
Take a look at ANY country, more debt is more problems. So why do we
allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial, ignorance?

Gas prices - maybe boating will get cheaper...
 

Canuck57 wrote:
On 19/05/2011 2:05 PM, Harryk wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2011 12:40:06 -0600,
wrote:

On 19/05/2011 6:49 AM, Harryk wrote:
John H wrote:
...if enough people see this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKdSc...layer_embedded

Obama made some great points here. Wonder what happened?
Have you bought that big new camper yet?
Harry, face it, Obama is a two faced LIAR.

Maybe Obama should give up his 8 mpg GM, my F150 Lariat gets 20 mpg.

My full size Chevy pickup with 4WD gets over 10% better than that....
and its gasoline powered....






Are you talking about the highly bullet resistant presidential SUVs that
we see rolling around DC? They're not your standard SUVs...

In the clip I saw on TV, Obama looks like a fish out of water with
interactive questions.

Really stepped in it when he suggested all those 8 mpg truck and SUV
owners should buy a new one.

Obama has **** for brains. Go out and spend $40K on a lemon Volt?
That is one hell of a lot of gasoline and the A/C works in the truck.

Looks like Obama's Illinois buddy democrat Rod Blagojevich is back in
court again, some now charges.
He didn't have a teleprompter for the Q&A.

Gas prices - maybe boating will get cheaper...
 

Sour Krause wrote:
In articleIoGdnUSVLvAsOkjQnZ2dnUVZ_qAAAAAA@giganews. com,
says...

Harryk wrote:

John H wrote:

...if enough people see this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKdSc...layer_embedded

Obama made some great points here. Wonder what happened?

Have you bought that big new camper yet?

Your deflections are so transparent that you look...moronic.

Harry's always been very jealous of what others have, that's why he
insults their belongings, and lies about his.

He's talked about his guns and his plans to use them often. WAFA.