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@mypacks.net says... wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote: In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... Canuck57 wrote: Mubarak was no dictator Bull****. The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military. The power behind every government is ultimately the military. You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s. A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower sent in the 101st Airborne,. Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder unarmed students at Kent State. The students should have been in class. |
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says... In article , naled24511 @mypacks.net says... wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote: In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... Canuck57 wrote: Mubarak was no dictator Bull****. The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military. The power behind every government is ultimately the military. You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s. A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower sent in the 101st Airborne,. Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder unarmed students at Kent State. The students should have been in class. Still never believed the NG shot those kids. I have a cousin that was in that courtyard that day iirc... I was pretty young then.. -- Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life! |
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I_am_Tosk wrote:
In om, says... In article0oKdnfjApvmVEUfQnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote: In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... Canuck57 wrote: Mubarak was no dictator Bull****. The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military. The power behind every government is ultimately the military. You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s. A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower sent in the 101st Airborne,. Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder unarmed students at Kent State. The students should have been in class. Still never believed the NG shot those kids. I have a cousin that was in that courtyard that day iirc... I was pretty young then.. It was a conspiracy...that black dude who was born in Kenya and whose birth in Hawaii was faked was the shooter. |
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In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says... I_am_Tosk wrote: In om, says... In article0oKdnfjApvmVEUfQnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote: In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... Canuck57 wrote: Mubarak was no dictator Bull****. The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military. The power behind every government is ultimately the military. You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s. A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower sent in the 101st Airborne,. Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder unarmed students at Kent State. The students should have been in class. Still never believed the NG shot those kids. I have a cousin that was in that courtyard that day iirc... I was pretty young then.. It was a conspiracy...that black dude who was born in Kenya and whose birth in Hawaii was faked was the shooter. Hey dirtbag. You already proved you are scared as hell of me, but how many times do you think the cops are going to come to your rescue? Especially the last few days, your locals have gotten a real good look at the lesson you didn't learn when you ****ed your pants over this old hippie and called the cops to hide you from your mouth, which obviously keeps running on and on.. -- Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life! |
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On Mon, 23 May 2011 20:50:05 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2011 17:24:54 -0400, Harryk wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 13:04:47 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 12:32:07 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote: In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... Canuck57 wrote: Mubarak was no dictator Bull****. The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military. The power behind every government is ultimately the military. You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s. A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower sent in the 101st Airborne,. Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder unarmed students at Kent State. Technically the national guard is not really the military. They work for the governor, not the federal government but the general point is valid. All laws are ultimately enforced at the point of a government gun and the military has the biggest guns.. Please...there's no need to split the hair that fine. You correctly assigned the blame to the governor but it would be incorrect to extend that to the pentagon or Nixon, as much fun as that might be. The national guard works for the state unless they are nationalized. A lot of people say that is the "militia" Most of the kids at Kent State were protesting Nixon's ordering of the invasion of Cambodia, so please don't be so eager to let Nixon or the Pentagon off the hook. While Nixon didn't order in the National Guard goon squad, there wouldn't have been a protest sans Nixon's escalation of that idiotic war. I will join you in blaming Nixon and Kissinger for still being in that war but they had nothing to do with whatever moron (probably a captain or major) who decided it was a good idea to issue a bunch of weekend warriors live ammo in a situation where they probably should not have even had rifles. This was a place for shields and batons like we see these days in riots. I think part of the problem was people in charge did not understand the total breakdown in respect for authority that happened in the 60s. The National Guard, showing up in full battle gear, did not impress these kids. That misunderstanding and the presence of live ammo resulted in the most likely scenario. Students got shot I know this is going to hurt, but the same can be said of the young people protesting in the Middle East. They're not impressed with guns. |
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On Mon, 23 May 2011 20:33:32 -0400, Harryk
wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In om, says... In article0oKdnfjApvmVEUfQnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote: In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... Canuck57 wrote: Mubarak was no dictator Bull****. The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military. The power behind every government is ultimately the military. You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s. A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower sent in the 101st Airborne,. Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder unarmed students at Kent State. The students should have been in class. Still never believed the NG shot those kids. I have a cousin that was in that courtyard that day iirc... I was pretty young then.. It was a conspiracy...that black dude who was born in Kenya and whose birth in Hawaii was faked was the shooter. You almost got it right.. it was actually Michelle Robinson. |
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On Mon, 23 May 2011 20:33:32 -0400, wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In om, says... In article0oKdnfjApvmVEUfQnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote: In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... Canuck57 wrote: Mubarak was no dictator Bull****. The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military. The power behind every government is ultimately the military. You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s. A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower sent in the 101st Airborne,. Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder unarmed students at Kent State. The students should have been in class. Still never believed the NG shot those kids. I have a cousin that was in that courtyard that day iirc... I was pretty young then.. It was a conspiracy...that black dude who was born in Kenya and whose birth in Hawaii was faked was the shooter. You almost got it right.. it was actually Michelle Robinson. Well, it certainly wasn't Larry Shafer, a guard member who admitted he was one of the guard contingent who did the shooting. :) It is astonishing there are those who do not believe it was members of the guard who lost their minds and began shooting. Of course, we also have people around us who believe that Murbarak was elected in a free, non-rigged election, and that the dictator of Libya is a victim. |
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On 5/22/2011 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 22 May 2011 15:39:13 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Sun, 22 May 2011 08:40:55 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Sat, 21 May 2011 18:55:59 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Sat, 21 May 2011 18:13:13 -0400, wrote: In , says... wrote: On Sat, 21 May 2011 10:13:22 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Fri, 20 May 2011 17:18:06 -0600, wrote: On 20/05/2011 1:58 PM, wrote: On Fri, 20 May 2011 12:49:41 -0600, wrote: It isn't about good will, it is about a sellout. Islam has declared Israel an enemy of state. Reminds me of "peac in our time pre-WW II. Maybe give Alaska back to the Russians while you are at it. And the US Canadian border to the west should be a few degrees south. Maybe give the Mexicans California and Texas back. It doesn't end. In this case it would be more like letting the Germans keep Poland but the Texas California situation might be similar. We took that as the spoils of war. (We bought Alaska) I really thought the idea of wars of conquest went out since the 40s when we gave everything back that we took in WWII. In fact the US has given back virtually everything it has taken in war since 1898. We pretty much only have Puerto Rico and a small patch in Cuba today. The only lasting peace in the middle east will have to start at the 1967 borders. Fact is, go back far enough, Israel has claim. Islam fascism didn't get brewing until 630AD.... So picking some arbitrary point in time between then and now...sort of arrogant of Obama to say that. If I was Israel, I would open up talks with the Russians and Chinese.... US is an UNRELIABLE ally. Russia and China might want them to go back to the pre-1948 borders. It should be noted that the Saudis are nuzzling up to the Chinese as we speak and most of the Arab world was aligned with the Soviets until fairly recently. The thing that changed that was Mubarak aligning himself with the US and getting billions in US military aid about 30 years ago. Then a week into the protests we threw him under the bus. It would not be surprising that they started looking East for a friend. I just *love* your "conservative" view of history. Egypt began getting U.S. military aid *after* it came to terms with a peace treaty with Israel. You know, the deal Jimmy Carter brokered. I didn't say what prompted the cooperation but you are right. It is amazing what you can get if you promise to upgrade a country's obsolete Soviet hardware with first line US hardware and a billion dollar's worth of training to use them. It is also significant that the guy we cut that deal with is gone. We are still not sure who will rise up from the shambles in Egypt but we hope it turns out better than Iran. The peace deal was signed with Sadat, who was assassinated. It was always a tragedy that the aftermath threw up Mubarak who, after all, was just another right-wing dictator, the kind we always seem to support. Sadat got his ass handed to him in 1973 and knew that his Soviet equipment was useless. As Greg said his deal with Israel got him new equipment, training and billions of dollars. Mubarak could have been seeing all of the money coming in and decided that he wanted to line his pockets rather than let Sadat pad his families pockets. It also ushered in a lasting peace between two countries at each other's throats. Peace is usually what happens after you get your ass kicked by another country. So, that's your method maintaining peace... beat up on everyone else? Sheesh. Peace does not come from mutual respect it comes from fear of getting your ass kicked or from recently having your ass kicked. Maybe in your tiny world, but mutual respect is the key to lasting peace. I have no idea what point you're trying to make about Mubarak. He didn't take over in a coup d'état. Who lead the coup? There was no coup. Do you have the ability to Google? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosni_Mubarak Mubarak took power after a failed coup. Huh? There was no failed coup that involved Mubarak's ascendancy to the office. He was already there. All of the Routers are capable of running IPv6 now. All of your recent Ethernet interfaces are capable of running IPv6. All of the OSes are capable of running IPv6. The problem is that the internal network infrastructure, meaning policies and procedures is are not capable of running IPv6. Perhaps, but you're confusing threats. LOL Did you mean to say "threads"? Why don't you bring this thread back on topic? |
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On 5/22/2011 4:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 22/05/2011 11:51 AM, HenryK wrote: On 5/22/2011 1:22 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 22/05/2011 10:32 AM, Harryk wrote: Canuck57 wrote: Mubarak was no dictator Bull****. Fleabagger denial? Harry's debating style has the ear marks of De Plume's fine coaching. Since misery likes company, the two should get married. And what would the two asshats breed? More asshats? Besides, Harry's breeding tool has atrophied from lack of use, I hear. |
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