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Harryk May 23rd 11 10:24 PM

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wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2011 13:04:47 -0400,
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2011 12:32:07 -0400,
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote:

In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
Canuck57 wrote:
Mubarak was no dictator
Bull****.
The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military.
The power behind every government is ultimately the military.
You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the
civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s.
A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower
sent in the 101st Airborne,.
Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder
unarmed students at Kent State.
Technically the national guard is not really the military. They work
for the governor, not the federal government but the general point is
valid.
All laws are ultimately enforced at the point of a government gun and
the military has the biggest guns..


Please...there's no need to split the hair that fine.


You correctly assigned the blame to the governor but it would be
incorrect to extend that to the pentagon or Nixon, as much fun as that
might be. The national guard works for the state unless they are
nationalized. A lot of people say that is the "militia"



Most of the kids at Kent State were protesting Nixon's ordering of the
invasion of Cambodia, so please don't be so eager to let Nixon or the
Pentagon off the hook. While Nixon didn't order in the National Guard
goon squad, there wouldn't have been a protest sans Nixon's escalation
of that idiotic war.



BAR[_2_] May 24th 11 01:09 AM

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In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...

wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote:

In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
Canuck57 wrote:
Mubarak was no dictator
Bull****.
The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military.


The power behind every government is ultimately the military.
You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the
civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s.
A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower
sent in the 101st Airborne,.


Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder
unarmed students at Kent State.


The students should have been in class.



I_am_Tosk May 24th 11 01:25 AM

Gas prices - maybe boating will get cheaper...
 
In article ,
says...

In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...

wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote:

In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
Canuck57 wrote:
Mubarak was no dictator
Bull****.
The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military.

The power behind every government is ultimately the military.
You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the
civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s.
A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower
sent in the 101st Airborne,.


Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder
unarmed students at Kent State.


The students should have been in class.


Still never believed the NG shot those kids. I have a cousin that was in
that courtyard that day iirc... I was pretty young then..

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

Harryk May 24th 11 01:33 AM

Gas prices - maybe boating will get cheaper...
 
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In om,
says...
In article0oKdnfjApvmVEUfQnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote:

In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
Canuck57 wrote:
Mubarak was no dictator
Bull****.
The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military.
The power behind every government is ultimately the military.
You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the
civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s.
A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower
sent in the 101st Airborne,.
Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder
unarmed students at Kent State.

The students should have been in class.


Still never believed the NG shot those kids. I have a cousin that was in
that courtyard that day iirc... I was pretty young then..



It was a conspiracy...that black dude who was born in Kenya and whose
birth in Hawaii was faked was the shooter.

I_am_Tosk May 24th 11 01:52 AM

Gas prices - maybe boating will get cheaper...
 
In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...

I_am_Tosk wrote:
In om,
says...
In article0oKdnfjApvmVEUfQnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote:

In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
Canuck57 wrote:
Mubarak was no dictator
Bull****.
The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military.
The power behind every government is ultimately the military.
You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the
civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s.
A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower
sent in the 101st Airborne,.
Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder
unarmed students at Kent State.
The students should have been in class.


Still never believed the NG shot those kids. I have a cousin that was in
that courtyard that day iirc... I was pretty young then..



It was a conspiracy...that black dude who was born in Kenya and whose
birth in Hawaii was faked was the shooter.


Hey dirtbag. You already proved you are scared as hell of me, but how
many times do you think the cops are going to come to your rescue?
Especially the last few days, your locals have gotten a real good look
at the lesson you didn't learn when you ****ed your pants over this old
hippie and called the cops to hide you from your mouth, which obviously
keeps running on and on..

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

[email protected] May 24th 11 02:13 AM

Gas prices - maybe boating will get cheaper...
 
On Mon, 23 May 2011 20:50:05 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2011 17:24:54 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2011 13:04:47 -0400,
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2011 12:32:07 -0400,
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote:

In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
Canuck57 wrote:
Mubarak was no dictator
Bull****.
The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military.
The power behind every government is ultimately the military.
You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the
civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s.
A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower
sent in the 101st Airborne,.
Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder
unarmed students at Kent State.
Technically the national guard is not really the military. They work
for the governor, not the federal government but the general point is
valid.
All laws are ultimately enforced at the point of a government gun and
the military has the biggest guns..

Please...there's no need to split the hair that fine.

You correctly assigned the blame to the governor but it would be
incorrect to extend that to the pentagon or Nixon, as much fun as that
might be. The national guard works for the state unless they are
nationalized. A lot of people say that is the "militia"



Most of the kids at Kent State were protesting Nixon's ordering of the
invasion of Cambodia, so please don't be so eager to let Nixon or the
Pentagon off the hook. While Nixon didn't order in the National Guard
goon squad, there wouldn't have been a protest sans Nixon's escalation
of that idiotic war.



I will join you in blaming Nixon and Kissinger for still being in that
war but they had nothing to do with whatever moron (probably a captain
or major) who decided it was a good idea to issue a bunch of weekend
warriors live ammo in a situation where they probably should not have
even had rifles. This was a place for shields and batons like we see
these days in riots.
I think part of the problem was people in charge did not understand
the total breakdown in respect for authority that happened in the 60s.
The National Guard, showing up in full battle gear, did not impress
these kids. That misunderstanding and the presence of live ammo
resulted in the most likely scenario. Students got shot


I know this is going to hurt, but the same can be said of the young
people protesting in the Middle East. They're not impressed with guns.

[email protected] May 24th 11 02:15 AM

Gas prices - maybe boating will get cheaper...
 
On Mon, 23 May 2011 20:33:32 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

I_am_Tosk wrote:
In om,
says...
In article0oKdnfjApvmVEUfQnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote:

In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
Canuck57 wrote:
Mubarak was no dictator
Bull****.
The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military.
The power behind every government is ultimately the military.
You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the
civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s.
A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower
sent in the 101st Airborne,.
Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder
unarmed students at Kent State.
The students should have been in class.


Still never believed the NG shot those kids. I have a cousin that was in
that courtyard that day iirc... I was pretty young then..



It was a conspiracy...that black dude who was born in Kenya and whose
birth in Hawaii was faked was the shooter.


You almost got it right.. it was actually Michelle Robinson.

Harryk May 24th 11 03:08 AM

Gas prices - maybe boating will get cheaper...
 
wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2011 20:33:32 -0400,
wrote:

I_am_Tosk wrote:
In om,

says...
In article0oKdnfjApvmVEUfQnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote:

In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
Canuck57 wrote:
Mubarak was no dictator
Bull****.
The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military.
The power behind every government is ultimately the military.
You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the
civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s.
A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower
sent in the 101st Airborne,.
Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder
unarmed students at Kent State.
The students should have been in class.



Still never believed the NG shot those kids. I have a cousin that was in
that courtyard that day iirc... I was pretty young then..


It was a conspiracy...that black dude who was born in Kenya and whose
birth in Hawaii was faked was the shooter.


You almost got it right.. it was actually Michelle Robinson.


Well, it certainly wasn't Larry Shafer, a guard member who admitted he
was one of the guard contingent who did the shooting. :)

It is astonishing there are those who do not believe it was members of
the guard who lost their minds and began shooting. Of course, we also
have people around us who believe that Murbarak was elected in a free,
non-rigged election, and that the dictator of Libya is a victim.



Jay[_5_] May 24th 11 12:07 PM

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On 5/22/2011 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 22 May 2011 15:39:13 -0400, wrote:

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On Sun, 22 May 2011 08:40:55 -0400, wrote:

In ,
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On Sat, 21 May 2011 18:55:59 -0400, wrote:

In ,
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On Sat, 21 May 2011 18:13:13 -0400, wrote:

In ,

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On Sat, 21 May 2011 10:13:22 -0400,
wrote:

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On Fri, 20 May 2011 17:18:06 -0600,
wrote:

On 20/05/2011 1:58 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 20 May 2011 12:49:41 -0600,
wrote:

It isn't about good will, it is about a sellout. Islam has declared
Israel an enemy of state. Reminds me of "peac in our time pre-WW II.

Maybe give Alaska back to the Russians while you are at it. And the US
Canadian border to the west should be a few degrees south.

Maybe give the Mexicans California and Texas back.

It doesn't end.
In this case it would be more like letting the Germans keep Poland but
the Texas California situation might be similar. We took that as the
spoils of war.
(We bought Alaska)
I really thought the idea of wars of conquest went out since the 40s
when we gave everything back that we took in WWII. In fact the US has
given back virtually everything it has taken in war since 1898. We
pretty much only have Puerto Rico and a small patch in Cuba today.

The only lasting peace in the middle east will have to start at the
1967 borders.
Fact is, go back far enough, Israel has claim. Islam fascism didn't get
brewing until 630AD....

So picking some arbitrary point in time between then and now...sort of
arrogant of Obama to say that. If I was Israel, I would open up talks
with the Russians and Chinese.... US is an UNRELIABLE ally.
Russia and China might want them to go back to the pre-1948 borders.
It should be noted that the Saudis are nuzzling up to the Chinese as
we speak and most of the Arab world was aligned with the Soviets until
fairly recently. The thing that changed that was Mubarak aligning
himself with the US and getting billions in US military aid about 30
years ago. Then a week into the protests we threw him under the bus.
It would not be surprising that they started looking East for a
friend.

I just *love* your "conservative" view of history. Egypt began getting
U.S. military aid *after* it came to terms with a peace treaty with
Israel. You know, the deal Jimmy Carter brokered.

I didn't say what prompted the cooperation but you are right.
It is amazing what you can get if you promise to upgrade a country's
obsolete Soviet hardware with first line US hardware and a billion
dollar's worth of training to use them.
It is also significant that the guy we cut that deal with is gone. We
are still not sure who will rise up from the shambles in Egypt but we
hope it turns out better than Iran.


The peace deal was signed with Sadat, who was assassinated. It was
always a tragedy that the aftermath threw up Mubarak who, after all, was
just another right-wing dictator, the kind we always seem to support.

Sadat got his ass handed to him in 1973 and knew that his Soviet
equipment was useless. As Greg said his deal with Israel got him new
equipment, training and billions of dollars. Mubarak could have been
seeing all of the money coming in and decided that he wanted to line his
pockets rather than let Sadat pad his families pockets.


It also ushered in a lasting peace between two countries at each
other's throats.

Peace is usually what happens after you get your ass kicked by another
country.

So, that's your method maintaining peace... beat up on everyone else?
Sheesh.

Peace does not come from mutual respect it comes from fear of getting
your ass kicked or from recently having your ass kicked.

Maybe in your tiny world, but mutual respect is the key to lasting
peace.


I have no idea what point you're trying to make about Mubarak. He
didn't take over in a coup d'état.

Who lead the coup?


There was no coup. Do you have the ability to Google?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosni_Mubarak

Mubarak took power after a failed coup.

Huh? There was no failed coup that involved Mubarak's ascendancy to
the office. He was already there.


All of the Routers are capable of running IPv6 now. All of your recent
Ethernet interfaces are capable of running IPv6. All of the OSes are
capable of running IPv6. The problem is that the internal network
infrastructure, meaning policies and procedures is are not capable of
running IPv6.


Perhaps, but you're confusing threats. LOL


Did you mean to say "threads"? Why don't you bring this thread back on
topic?

HenryK[_2_] May 24th 11 12:11 PM

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On 5/22/2011 4:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 22/05/2011 11:51 AM, HenryK wrote:
On 5/22/2011 1:22 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 22/05/2011 10:32 AM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
Mubarak was no dictator

Bull****.

Fleabagger denial?

Harry's debating style has the ear marks of De Plume's fine coaching.


Since misery likes company, the two should get married.

And what would the two asshats breed? More asshats? Besides, Harry's
breeding tool has atrophied from lack of use, I hear.


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