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From: Tom Ouellette ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:15 AM
To: Tim-Jim Roche; Ted MacDougall; ROBERTA ASHLEY; Ricky Robert;
Paulette Bonneau; kathy white; Julie DuBois; John Lafleur; Jim Lafleur;
Gerts1930; HOWARD E JELLISON; Brian Westgate; Barbie Place
Subject: Fw: History Lesson on Your Social Security Card VERY IMPORTANT
TO READ





----- Original Message -----

From: ANN DECOTIS

Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 8:57 PM

Subject: FW: History Lesson on Your Social Security Card VERY IMPORTANT
TO READ







And I'm a Democrat!





Dick Kantenberger


History Lesson on Your Social Security Card

Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones)
didn't know this.
It's easy to check out, if you don't believe it. Be sure and show it to
your family and friends. They need a little history lesson on what's
what and it doesn't matter whether you are Democrat or Republican. Facts
are Facts.


Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and
card were not to be used for identification purposes. Since nearly
everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to
use it anyway and the message, NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION, was removed.



http://blog.kir.com/archives/images/social+security.gif
An old Social Security card with the "NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION" message.

Our Social Security

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social
Security (FICA) Program. He promised:

1.) That participation in the Program would be
Completely voluntary,

No longer Voluntary

2.) That the participants would only have to pay
1% of the first $1,400 of their annual
Incomes into the Program ,

Now 7.65%
on the first $90,000

3.) That the money the participants elected to put
into the Program would be deductible from
their income for tax purposes each year,

No longer tax deductible

4.) That the money the participants put into the
independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the
general operating fund, and therefore, would
only be used to fund the Social Security
Retirement Program, and no other
Government program, and,

Under Johnson the money was moved to
The General Fund and Spent

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed
as income.

Under Clinton & Gore
Up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are
now receiving a Social Security check every month --
and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of
the money we paid to the Federal government to 'put
away' -- you may be interested in the following:

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the
independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the
general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically
controlled House and Senate.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

Q: W hich Political Party eliminated the income tax
deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
-----

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social
Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the
'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the
Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

Q: Which Political Party decided to start
giving annuity payments to immigrants?

AND MY FAVORITE:

A: That's right!

Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.
Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65,
began to receive Social Security payments! The
Democratic Party gave these payments to them,
even though they never paid a dime into it!

------------ -- ------------ --------- ----- ------------ ---------
---------

Then, after violating the original contract (FICA),
the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want
to take your Social Security away!

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From: Tom Ouellette ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:15 AM
To: Tim-Jim Roche; Ted MacDougall; ROBERTA ASHLEY; Ricky Robert;
Paulette Bonneau; kathy white; Julie DuBois; John Lafleur; Jim Lafleur;
Gerts1930; HOWARD E JELLISON; Brian Westgate; Barbie Place
Subject: Fw: History Lesson on Your Social Security Card VERY IMPORTANT
TO READ





----- Original Message -----

From: ANN DECOTIS

Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 8:57 PM

Subject: FW: History Lesson on Your Social Security Card VERY IMPORTANT
TO READ







And I'm a Democrat!





Dick Kantenberger


History Lesson on Your Social Security Card

Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones)
didn't know this.
It's easy to check out, if you don't believe it. Be sure and show it to
your family and friends. They need a little history lesson on what's
what and it doesn't matter whether you are Democrat or Republican. Facts
are Facts.


Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and
card were not to be used for identification purposes. Since nearly
everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to
use it anyway and the message, NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION, was removed.



http://blog.kir.com/archives/images/social+security.gif
An old Social Security card with the "NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION" message.

Our Social Security

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social
Security (FICA) Program. He promised:

1.) That participation in the Program would be
Completely voluntary,

No longer Voluntary

2.) That the participants would only have to pay
1% of the first $1,400 of their annual
Incomes into the Program ,

Now 7.65%
on the first $90,000

3.) That the money the participants elected to put
into the Program would be deductible from
their income for tax purposes each year,

No longer tax deductible

4.) That the money the participants put into the
independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the
general operating fund, and therefore, would
only be used to fund the Social Security
Retirement Program, and no other
Government program, and,

Under Johnson the money was moved to
The General Fund and Spent

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed
as income.

Under Clinton & Gore
Up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are
now receiving a Social Security check every month --
and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of
the money we paid to the Federal government to 'put
away' -- you may be interested in the following:

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the
independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the
general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically
controlled House and Senate.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

Q: W hich Political Party eliminated the income tax
deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
-----

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social
Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the
'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the
Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

Q: Which Political Party decided to start
giving annuity payments to immigrants?

AND MY FAVORITE:

A: That's right!

Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.
Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65,
began to receive Social Security payments! The
Democratic Party gave these payments to them,
even though they never paid a dime into it!

------------ -- ------------ --------- ----- ------------ ---------
---------

Then, after violating the original contract (FICA),
the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want
to take your Social Security away!


I wonder which shill will be the first to call you a racist? Maybe the
dropout?

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!
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On 20/04/2011 6:48 AM, OmDeFlume wrote:




From: Tom Ouellette ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:15 AM
To: Tim-Jim Roche; Ted MacDougall; ROBERTA ASHLEY; Ricky Robert;
Paulette Bonneau; kathy white; Julie DuBois; John Lafleur; Jim Lafleur;
Gerts1930; HOWARD E JELLISON; Brian Westgate; Barbie Place
Subject: Fw: History Lesson on Your Social Security Card VERY IMPORTANT
TO READ





----- Original Message -----

From: ANN DECOTIS

Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 8:57 PM

Subject: FW: History Lesson on Your Social Security Card VERY IMPORTANT
TO READ







And I'm a Democrat!





Dick Kantenberger


History Lesson on Your Social Security Card

Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones)
didn't know this.
It's easy to check out, if you don't believe it. Be sure and show it to
your family and friends. They need a little history lesson on what's
what and it doesn't matter whether you are Democrat or Republican. Facts
are Facts.


Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and
card were not to be used for identification purposes. Since nearly
everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to
use it anyway and the message, NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION, was removed.



http://blog.kir.com/archives/images/social+security.gif
An old Social Security card with the "NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION" message.

Our Social Security

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social
Security (FICA) Program. He promised:

1.) That participation in the Program would be
Completely voluntary,

No longer Voluntary

2.) That the participants would only have to pay
1% of the first $1,400 of their annual
Incomes into the Program ,

Now 7.65%
on the first $90,000

3.) That the money the participants elected to put
into the Program would be deductible from
their income for tax purposes each year,

No longer tax deductible

4.) That the money the participants put into the
independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the
general operating fund, and therefore, would
only be used to fund the Social Security
Retirement Program, and no other
Government program, and,

Under Johnson the money was moved to
The General Fund and Spent

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed
as income.

Under Clinton & Gore
Up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are
now receiving a Social Security check every month --
and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of
the money we paid to the Federal government to 'put
away' -- you may be interested in the following:

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the
independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the
general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically
controlled House and Senate.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

Q: W hich Political Party eliminated the income tax
deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
-----

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social
Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the
'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the
Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

Q: Which Political Party decided to start
giving annuity payments to immigrants?

AND MY FAVORITE:

A: That's right!

Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.
Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65,
began to receive Social Security payments! The
Democratic Party gave these payments to them,
even though they never paid a dime into it!

------------ -- ------------ --------- ----- ------------ ---------
---------

Then, after violating the original contract (FICA),
the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want
to take your Social Security away!


It is called scope creep. Income tax was originally only for the top
4%. Then the top tax brackets were for the top 5%....

Get it in and then turn the screws.

But SS is worse. Because it really amounts to an employment tax. You
put money in, then it lends the money to government below inflation. In
the end reducing the value you put in and giving the government a cheap
easy source of moneys.

So in fact your pension subsidizes government.

And decent conservative fund management of a pension fund seeks for
inflation + expenses + taxes + say a modest 2.5% return. Riht now that
should be at least 6%. But it is near zero, thus 6% goes to the
government through avoiding real borrowing.

That is why I say pensions are fraud unless they are in your name, in
your account and under your control. The rest is fraud.
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From: Tom Ouellette ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:15 AM
To: Tim-Jim Roche; Ted MacDougall; ROBERTA ASHLEY; Ricky Robert;
Paulette Bonneau; kathy white; Julie DuBois; John Lafleur; Jim Lafleur;
Gerts1930; HOWARD E JELLISON; Brian Westgate; Barbie Place
Subject: Fw: History Lesson on Your Social Security Card VERY IMPORTANT
TO READ





----- Original Message -----

From: ANN DECOTIS

Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 8:57 PM

Subject: FW: History Lesson on Your Social Security Card VERY IMPORTANT
TO READ







And I'm a Democrat!





Dick Kantenberger


History Lesson on Your Social Security Card

Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones)
didn't know this.
It's easy to check out, if you don't believe it. Be sure and show it to
your family and friends. They need a little history lesson on what's
what and it doesn't matter whether you are Democrat or Republican. Facts
are Facts.


Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and
card were not to be used for identification purposes. Since nearly
everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to
use it anyway and the message, NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION, was removed.



http://blog.kir.com/archives/images/social+security.gif
An old Social Security card with the "NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION" message.

Our Social Security

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social
Security (FICA) Program. He promised:

1.) That participation in the Program would be
Completely voluntary,

No longer Voluntary

2.) That the participants would only have to pay
1% of the first $1,400 of their annual
Incomes into the Program ,

Now 7.65%
on the first $90,000

3.) That the money the participants elected to put
into the Program would be deductible from
their income for tax purposes each year,

No longer tax deductible

4.) That the money the participants put into the
independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the
general operating fund, and therefore, would
only be used to fund the Social Security
Retirement Program, and no other
Government program, and,

Under Johnson the money was moved to
The General Fund and Spent

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed
as income.

Under Clinton& Gore
Up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are
now receiving a Social Security check every month --
and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of
the money we paid to the Federal government to 'put
away' -- you may be interested in the following:

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the
independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the
general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically
controlled House and Senate.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

Q: W hich Political Party eliminated the income tax
deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
-----

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social
Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the
'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the
Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

Q: Which Political Party decided to start
giving annuity payments to immigrants?

AND MY FAVORITE:

A: That's right!

Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.
Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65,
began to receive Social Security payments! The
Democratic Party gave these payments to them,
even though they never paid a dime into it!

------------ -- ------------ --------- ----- ------------ ---------
---------

Then, after violating the original contract (FICA),
the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want
to take your Social Security away!


I wonder which shill will be the first to call you a racist? Maybe the
dropout?


Good art is the dropout is getting screwed too, just too stupid to know it.

--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.
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