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Frogwatch[_2_] April 2nd 11 05:35 AM

The Mac26
 
No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I
like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed.
However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last
count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I
have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing
performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel
for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of
time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy,
I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a
MAc26 would use her motor.
I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where
all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well.
I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like
warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts.
My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good
Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either
a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable
extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get
somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5
kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think
the same thing.
So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so
used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield
in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26.

John H[_2_] April 2nd 11 01:53 PM

The Mac26
 
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I
like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed.
However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last
count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I
have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing
performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel
for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of
time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy,
I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a
MAc26 would use her motor.
I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where
all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well.
I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like
warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts.
My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good
Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either
a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable
extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get
somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5
kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think
the same thing.
So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so
used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield
in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26.


There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat,
even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they
denigrate everyone else's boat.

In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and
grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident
*expert* it's the boat's fault.

WAFDS!

Harryk April 2nd 11 01:58 PM

The Mac26
 
John H wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I
like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed.
However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last
count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I
have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing
performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel
for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of
time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy,
I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a
MAc26 would use her motor.
I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where
all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well.
I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like
warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts.
My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good
Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either
a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable
extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get
somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5
kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think
the same thing.
So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so
used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield
in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26.


There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat,
even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they
denigrate everyone else's boat.

In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and
grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident
*expert* it's the boat's fault.

WAFDS!



What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing.


OmDeFlume April 2nd 11 02:38 PM

The Mac26
 
On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote:
John H wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:

No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I
like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed.
However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last
count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I
have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing
performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel
for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of
time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy,
I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a
MAc26 would use her motor.
I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where
all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well.
I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like
warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts.
My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good
Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either
a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable
extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get
somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5
kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think
the same thing.
So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so
used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield
in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26.


There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is
*their* boat,
even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do,
they
denigrate everyone else's boat.

In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly
overloaded and
grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to
our resident
*expert* it's the boat's fault.

WAFDS!



What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing.

For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly
little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge.

I_am_Tosk April 2nd 11 03:14 PM

The Mac26
 
In article , says...

On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote:
John H wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:

No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I
like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed.
However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last
count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I
have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing
performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel
for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of
time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy,
I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a
MAc26 would use her motor.
I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where
all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well.
I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like
warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts.
My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good
Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either
a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable
extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get
somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5
kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think
the same thing.
So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so
used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield
in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26.

There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is
*their* boat,
even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do,
they
denigrate everyone else's boat.

In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly
overloaded and
grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to
our resident
*expert* it's the boat's fault.

WAFDS!



What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing.

For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly
little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge.


Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is
insults so that's what we get....

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Harryk April 2nd 11 03:23 PM

The Mac26
 
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says...
On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote:
John H wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:

No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I
like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed.
However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last
count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I
have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing
performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel
for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of
time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy,
I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a
MAc26 would use her motor.
I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where
all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well.
I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like
warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts.
My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good
Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either
a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable
extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get
somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5
kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think
the same thing.
So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so
used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield
in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26.
There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is
*their* boat,
even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do,
they
denigrate everyone else's boat.

In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly
overloaded and
grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to
our resident
*expert* it's the boat's fault.

WAFDS!

What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing.

For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly
little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge.


Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is
insults so that's what we get....



What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently
unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of
you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The
boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode.

Morons.

I_am_Tosk April 2nd 11 03:31 PM

The Mac26
 
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says...
On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote:
John H wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:

No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I
like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed.
However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last
count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I
have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing
performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel
for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of
time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy,
I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a
MAc26 would use her motor.
I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where
all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well.
I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like
warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts.
My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good
Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either
a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable
extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get
somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5
kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think
the same thing.
So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so
used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield
in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26.
There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is
*their* boat,
even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do,
they
denigrate everyone else's boat.

In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly
overloaded and
grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to
our resident
*expert* it's the boat's fault.

WAFDS!

What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing.

For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly
little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge.


Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is
insults so that's what we get....



What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently
unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of
you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The
boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode.

Morons.


Yeah, "Mooks, morons, bat****"... We know you only come here to insult
in some useless attempt to make yourself feel important... You need a
new writer for your google information...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

OmDeFlume April 2nd 11 04:54 PM

The Mac26
 
On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says...
On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote:
John H wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:

No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I
like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed.
However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last
count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I
have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing
performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel
for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of
time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy,
I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a
MAc26 would use her motor.
I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where
all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very
well.
I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like
warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts.
My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a
"Good
Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either
a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable
extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get
somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more
normal 5
kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think
the same thing.
So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so
used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield
in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26.
There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is
*their* boat,
even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do,
they
denigrate everyone else's boat.

In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly
overloaded and
grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to
our resident
*expert* it's the boat's fault.

WAFDS!

What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to
nothing.

For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly
little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge.


Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is
insults so that's what we get....



What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently
unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of
you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The
boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode.

Morons.


Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry
Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of
any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz
when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat
upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much
like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many
sock puppets

Harryk April 2nd 11 05:52 PM

The Mac26
 
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article79GdnUS73qrIrArQnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says...
On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote:
John H wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:

No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I
like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed.
However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last
count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I
have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing
performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel
for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of
time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy,
I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a
MAc26 would use her motor.
I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where
all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well.
I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like
warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts.
My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good
Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either
a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable
extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get
somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5
kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think
the same thing.
So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so
used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield
in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26.
There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is
*their* boat,
even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do,
they
denigrate everyone else's boat.

In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly
overloaded and
grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to
our resident
*expert* it's the boat's fault.

WAFDS!
What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing.

For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly
little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge.
Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is
insults so that's what we get....


What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently
unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of
you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The
boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode.

Morons.


Yeah, "Mooks, morons, bat****"... We know you only come here to insult
in some useless attempt to make yourself feel important... You need a
new writer for your google information...


Just the terms one would use to describe Snotty Ingersoll: a mook, a
moron, and completely bat****.


I_am_Tosk April 2nd 11 06:15 PM

The Mac26
 
In article , says...

On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...
On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote:
John H wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:

No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I
like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed.
However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last
count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I
have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing
performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel
for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of
time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy,
I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a
MAc26 would use her motor.
I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where
all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very
well.
I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like
warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts.
My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a
"Good
Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either
a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable
extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get
somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more
normal 5
kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think
the same thing.
So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so
used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield
in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26.
There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is
*their* boat,
even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do,
they
denigrate everyone else's boat.

In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly
overloaded and
grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to
our resident
*expert* it's the boat's fault.

WAFDS!

What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to
nothing.

For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly
little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge.

Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is
insults so that's what we get....



What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently
unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of
you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The
boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode.

Morons.


Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry
Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of
any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz
when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat
upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much
like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many
sock puppets


That should be posted at least once a day in case someone comes here for
boat related information...;)

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!


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