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The Mac26
No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I
like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. |
The Mac26
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! |
The Mac26
John H wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. |
The Mac26
On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote:
John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. |
The Mac26
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The Mac26
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Yeah, "Mooks, morons, bat****"... We know you only come here to insult in some useless attempt to make yourself feel important... You need a new writer for your google information... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! |
The Mac26
On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets |
The Mac26
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article79GdnUS73qrIrArQnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Yeah, "Mooks, morons, bat****"... We know you only come here to insult in some useless attempt to make yourself feel important... You need a new writer for your google information... Just the terms one would use to describe Snotty Ingersoll: a mook, a moron, and completely bat****. |
The Mac26
In article , says...
On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets That should be posted at least once a day in case someone comes here for boat related information...;) -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! |
The Mac26
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets That should be posted at least once a day in case someone comes here for boat related information...;) Apparently you mooks missed the post from w'hine in which he had the same conclusions as I did, that the boat in question is not stable when motoring with the daggerboard/centerboard up. I ought to post that photo of your rowboat, Snotty. You know the one...with the crooked paint lines and the paint flaking off the inside of the hull because (a) you were drunk when you painted the rowboat and (b) you used out of date housepaint from Home Depot's "almost free" aisle. |
The Mac26
On Apr 2, 1:27*pm, Harryk wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets That should be posted at least once a day in case someone comes here for boat related information...;) Apparently you mooks missed the post from w'hine in which he had the same conclusions as I did, that the boat in question is not stable when motoring with the daggerboard/centerboard up. I ought to post that photo of your rowboat, Snotty. You know the one...with the crooked paint lines and the paint flaking off the inside of the hull because (a) you were drunk when you painted the rowboat and (b) you used out of date housepaint from Home Depot's "almost free" aisle.. The Mac26X has the same shape as most small sailboats using a daggerboard but its water ballast gives it more stability. There is nothing unusual about its shape for a sailboat. Initially it is said to be tender but it hardens up when it reaches 10 degrees meaning the hull is flattish on bottom with some widening on the sides. If one was truly paranoid, he could put floats like fenders along the toerail. This would result in a huge increase in stability when heel reached about 35 degrees but might make her stable upside down. I am sure her designer optimized the amount of hull flare for stability. |
The Mac26
Frogwatch wrote:
On Apr 2, 1:27 pm, wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets That should be posted at least once a day in case someone comes here for boat related information...;) Apparently you mooks missed the post from w'hine in which he had the same conclusions as I did, that the boat in question is not stable when motoring with the daggerboard/centerboard up. I ought to post that photo of your rowboat, Snotty. You know the one...with the crooked paint lines and the paint flaking off the inside of the hull because (a) you were drunk when you painted the rowboat and (b) you used out of date housepaint from Home Depot's "almost free" aisle. The Mac26X has the same shape as most small sailboats using a daggerboard but its water ballast gives it more stability. There is nothing unusual about its shape for a sailboat. Initially it is said to be tender but it hardens up when it reaches 10 degrees meaning the hull is flattish on bottom with some widening on the sides. If one was truly paranoid, he could put floats like fenders along the toerail. This would result in a huge increase in stability when heel reached about 35 degrees but might make her stable upside down. I am sure her designer optimized the amount of hull flare for stability. How does the boat plane under motor power with the daggerboard down and the ballast tanks full of water? It is, after all, while it is under power that it is tender. |
The Mac26
"OmDeFlume" wrote in message ...
On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard |
The Mac26
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
wrote in message ... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard The object of your attention is just another of the many on-line ID stealing morons that infect rec.boats. I filter him out. |
The Mac26
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says... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard The object of your attention is just another of the many on-line ID stealing morons that infect rec.boats. I filter him out. Harry, you don't filter anybody out. You come here and insult as many people as you can, then sit there and wait for someone to reply so you can insult them again. You history clearly shows, you never miss a post... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! |
The Mac26
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard The object of your attention is just another of the many on-line ID stealing morons that infect rec.boats. I filter him out. Harry, you don't filter anybody out. You come here and insult as many people as you can, then sit there and wait for someone to reply so you can insult them again. You history clearly shows, you never miss a post... You're entitled to your little man fantasies, little man. |
The Mac26
On Apr 3, 4:31*pm, Harryk wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: * wrote in ... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard The object of your attention is just another of the many on-line ID stealing morons that infect rec.boats. I filter him out. Harry, you don't filter anybody out. You come here and insult as many people as you can, then sit there and wait for someone to reply so you can insult them again. You history clearly shows, you never miss a post... You're entitled to your little man fantasies, little man. I think one fills the ballast tanks only partway and pulls up the board for "motorboat" mode. This gives reasonable stability under power. |
The Mac26
"Harryk" wrote in message
... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard The object of your attention is just another of the many on-line ID stealing morons that infect rec.boats. I filter him out. I tend to read them all and examine the headers. One can glean some interesting things from headers. Like, for example, Jessica B's and emdeplume (not omdeflume) have the same ISP, the same client, the same anonymous mail (hush.com). Could be just a coincidence but not likely. Wilbur Hubbard |
The Mac26
On Apr 3, 5:01*pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Harryk" wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: *wrote in message ... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good.. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard The object of your attention is just another of the many on-line ID stealing morons that infect rec.boats. I filter him out. I tend to read them all and examine the headers. One can glean some interesting things from headers. Like, for example, Jessica B's and emdeplume (not omdeflume) have the same ISP, the same client, the same anonymous mail (hush.com). Could be just a coincidence but not likely. Wilbur Hubbard Reread the Mac26 website. They say to power only with the tanks full and board up |
The Mac26
Frogwatch wrote:
On Apr 3, 4:31 pm, wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in ... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard The object of your attention is just another of the many on-line ID stealing morons that infect rec.boats. I filter him out. Harry, you don't filter anybody out. You come here and insult as many people as you can, then sit there and wait for someone to reply so you can insult them again. You history clearly shows, you never miss a post... You're entitled to your little man fantasies, little man. I think one fills the ballast tanks only partway and pulls up the board for "motorboat" mode. This gives reasonable stability under power. I've read that if you only fill the ballast tanks partway, the ballast shifts around and makes the boat even more tender. Hey, get one if you like. To me, they look like a lousy sailboat and a lousy powerboat. |
The Mac26
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard The object of your attention is just another of the many on-line ID stealing morons that infect rec.boats. I filter him out. I tend to read them all and examine the headers. One can glean some interesting things from headers. Like, for example, Jessica B's and emdeplume (not omdeflume) have the same ISP, the same client, the same anonymous mail (hush.com). Could be just a coincidence but not likely. Wilbur Hubbard It's not difficult to put whatever you want in headers. |
The Mac26
"Harryk" wrote in message
m... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard The object of your attention is just another of the many on-line ID stealing morons that infect rec.boats. I filter him out. I tend to read them all and examine the headers. One can glean some interesting things from headers. Like, for example, Jessica B's and emdeplume (not omdeflume) have the same ISP, the same client, the same anonymous mail (hush.com). Could be just a coincidence but not likely. Wilbur Hubbard It's not difficult to put whatever you want in headers. Harry, it is IMPOSSIBLE for a user to forge the coded ISP (posting host) header using Eternal September. This is a server-generated header and the server will accept no substitutes. emdeplum's and Jessica B's coded posting host headers are IDENTICAL meaning they use the same ISP. |
The Mac26
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
wrote in message m... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard The object of your attention is just another of the many on-line ID stealing morons that infect rec.boats. I filter him out. I tend to read them all and examine the headers. One can glean some interesting things from headers. Like, for example, Jessica B's and emdeplume (not omdeflume) have the same ISP, the same client, the same anonymous mail (hush.com). Could be just a coincidence but not likely. Wilbur Hubbard It's not difficult to put whatever you want in headers. Harry, it is IMPOSSIBLE for a user to forge the coded ISP (posting host) header using Eternal September. This is a server-generated header and the server will accept no substitutes. emdeplum's and Jessica B's coded posting host headers are IDENTICAL meaning they use the same ISP. You're assuming the posting host info can't be faked. |
The Mac26
"Harryk" wrote in message
... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message m... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard The object of your attention is just another of the many on-line ID stealing morons that infect rec.boats. I filter him out. I tend to read them all and examine the headers. One can glean some interesting things from headers. Like, for example, Jessica B's and emdeplume (not omdeflume) have the same ISP, the same client, the same anonymous mail (hush.com). Could be just a coincidence but not likely. Wilbur Hubbard It's not difficult to put whatever you want in headers. Harry, it is IMPOSSIBLE for a user to forge the coded ISP (posting host) header using Eternal September. This is a server-generated header and the server will accept no substitutes. emdeplum's and Jessica B's coded posting host headers are IDENTICAL meaning they use the same ISP. You're assuming the posting host info can't be faked. Negative, sarge! Here are emdeplumes headers from a post in this group. Xref: news rec.boats:1059782 Path: nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: rec.boats Subject: Obama the Nazi...... Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 14:16:03 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 61 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: mx01.eternal-september.org; posting-host="TA7W2cpHGXlPK9+5Zi4xCw"; logging-data="30767"; "; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+n8h5YO0a/RN+5P5MS07nQrZXLTJnUxlU=" X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 Cancel-Lock: sha1:75K72UC1hC+LB6HaHemuyQpw6BM= See the Injection-Info: header. That header and all the information contained therein is generated by the E/S server and if some Rube knew how to generate such a header with Agent, it would be overwriten by the E/S server. Get it? |
The Mac26
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message m... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard The object of your attention is just another of the many on-line ID stealing morons that infect rec.boats. I filter him out. I tend to read them all and examine the headers. One can glean some interesting things from headers. Like, for example, Jessica B's and emdeplume (not omdeflume) have the same ISP, the same client, the same anonymous mail (hush.com). Could be just a coincidence but not likely. Wilbur Hubbard It's not difficult to put whatever you want in headers. Harry, it is IMPOSSIBLE for a user to forge the coded ISP (posting host) header using Eternal September. This is a server-generated header and the server will accept no substitutes. emdeplum's and Jessica B's coded posting host headers are IDENTICAL meaning they use the same ISP. You're assuming the posting host info can't be faked. Negative, sarge! Here are emdeplumes headers from a post in this group. I'm not that interested and, as I stated, everything in the headers can be faked. |
The Mac26
"Harryk" wrote in message
... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message m... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard The object of your attention is just another of the many on-line ID stealing morons that infect rec.boats. I filter him out. I tend to read them all and examine the headers. One can glean some interesting things from headers. Like, for example, Jessica B's and emdeplume (not omdeflume) have the same ISP, the same client, the same anonymous mail (hush.com). Could be just a coincidence but not likely. Wilbur Hubbard It's not difficult to put whatever you want in headers. Harry, it is IMPOSSIBLE for a user to forge the coded ISP (posting host) header using Eternal September. This is a server-generated header and the server will accept no substitutes. emdeplum's and Jessica B's coded posting host headers are IDENTICAL meaning they use the same ISP. You're assuming the posting host info can't be faked. Negative, sarge! Here are emdeplumes headers from a post in this group. I'm not that interested and, as I stated, everything in the headers can be faked. Wrong! Depends on the server. Most servers are quite strict these days. Only a few allow path pre-loads, for example. (Altopia is one of them but with rules). One would have to find an open NNTP server that had no rules and then use something like NewsMaestro to forge all the headers. Even so, the NNTP server where it was injected would show up in the path after the pre-load as no scripted instructions can alter a servers' stamp which comes after the fact. |
The Mac26
On 03/04/2011 3:44 PM, Harryk wrote:
Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message m... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard The object of your attention is just another of the many on-line ID stealing morons that infect rec.boats. I filter him out. I tend to read them all and examine the headers. One can glean some interesting things from headers. Like, for example, Jessica B's and emdeplume (not omdeflume) have the same ISP, the same client, the same anonymous mail (hush.com). Could be just a coincidence but not likely. Wilbur Hubbard It's not difficult to put whatever you want in headers. Harry, it is IMPOSSIBLE for a user to forge the coded ISP (posting host) header using Eternal September. This is a server-generated header and the server will accept no substitutes. emdeplum's and Jessica B's coded posting host headers are IDENTICAL meaning they use the same ISP. You're assuming the posting host info can't be faked. Negative, sarge! Here are emdeplumes headers from a post in this group. I'm not that interested and, as I stated, everything in the headers can be faked. True, but faking headers is harder than the average idiot can do and often something gives it away. But agree, never trust the source of a newsgroup or email unless backed up with some signature based system like PGP (Pretty Good Privacy). |
The Mac26
In article ,
says... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message m... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard The object of your attention is just another of the many on-line ID stealing morons that infect rec.boats. I filter him out. I tend to read them all and examine the headers. One can glean some interesting things from headers. Like, for example, Jessica B's and emdeplume (not omdeflume) have the same ISP, the same client, the same anonymous mail (hush.com). Could be just a coincidence but not likely. Wilbur Hubbard It's not difficult to put whatever you want in headers. Harry, it is IMPOSSIBLE for a user to forge the coded ISP (posting host) header using Eternal September. This is a server-generated header and the server will accept no substitutes. emdeplum's and Jessica B's coded posting host headers are IDENTICAL meaning they use the same ISP. You're assuming the posting host info can't be faked. Negative, sarge! Here are emdeplumes headers from a post in this group. I'm not that interested and, as I stated, everything in the headers can be faked. You will find Harry will defend Plum to the end... These sock puppets are the only ones who listen to him here... snerk Harry can't even keep his own sock puppets separated, like when he screwed up and answered as Harry, under the name Paul.. We all have his number... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! |
The Mac26
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message m... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard The object of your attention is just another of the many on-line ID stealing morons that infect rec.boats. I filter him out. I tend to read them all and examine the headers. One can glean some interesting things from headers. Like, for example, Jessica B's and emdeplume (not omdeflume) have the same ISP, the same client, the same anonymous mail (hush.com). Could be just a coincidence but not likely. Wilbur Hubbard It's not difficult to put whatever you want in headers. Harry, it is IMPOSSIBLE for a user to forge the coded ISP (posting host) header using Eternal September. This is a server-generated header and the server will accept no substitutes. emdeplum's and Jessica B's coded posting host headers are IDENTICAL meaning they use the same ISP. You're assuming the posting host info can't be faked. Negative, sarge! Here are emdeplumes headers from a post in this group. I'm not that interested and, as I stated, everything in the headers can be faked. You will find Harry will defend Plum to the end... These sock puppets are the only ones who listen to him here...snerk Harry can't even keep his own sock puppets separated, like when he screwed up and answered as Harry, under the name Paul.. We all have his number... I'm not defending anyone, stunatz. I'm pointing out that headers = all headers - can be faked. |
The Mac26
Canuck57 wrote:
On 03/04/2011 3:44 PM, Harryk wrote: Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message m... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard The object of your attention is just another of the many on-line ID stealing morons that infect rec.boats. I filter him out. I tend to read them all and examine the headers. One can glean some interesting things from headers. Like, for example, Jessica B's and emdeplume (not omdeflume) have the same ISP, the same client, the same anonymous mail (hush.com). Could be just a coincidence but not likely. Wilbur Hubbard It's not difficult to put whatever you want in headers. Harry, it is IMPOSSIBLE for a user to forge the coded ISP (posting host) header using Eternal September. This is a server-generated header and the server will accept no substitutes. emdeplum's and Jessica B's coded posting host headers are IDENTICAL meaning they use the same ISP. You're assuming the posting host info can't be faked. Negative, sarge! Here are emdeplumes headers from a post in this group. I'm not that interested and, as I stated, everything in the headers can be faked. True, but faking headers is harder than the average idiot can do and often something gives it away. But agree, never trust the source of a newsgroup or email unless backed up with some signature based system like PGP (Pretty Good Privacy). Whether it is easy or difficult is not relevant to whether it can be done. |
The Mac26
In article s.com,
llid says... "Harryk" wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message m... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard The object of your attention is just another of the many on-line ID stealing morons that infect rec.boats. I filter him out. I tend to read them all and examine the headers. One can glean some interesting things from headers. Like, for example, Jessica B's and emdeplume (not omdeflume) have the same ISP, the same client, the same anonymous mail (hush.com). Could be just a coincidence but not likely. Wilbur Hubbard It's not difficult to put whatever you want in headers. Harry, it is IMPOSSIBLE for a user to forge the coded ISP (posting host) header using Eternal September. This is a server-generated header and the server will accept no substitutes. emdeplum's and Jessica B's coded posting host headers are IDENTICAL meaning they use the same ISP. You're assuming the posting host info can't be faked. Negative, sarge! Here are emdeplumes headers from a post in this group. I'm not that interested and, as I stated, everything in the headers can be faked. Wrong! Depends on the server. Most servers are quite strict these days. Only a few allow path pre-loads, for example. (Altopia is one of them but with rules). One would have to find an open NNTP server that had no rules and then use something like NewsMaestro to forge all the headers. Even so, the NNTP server where it was injected would show up in the path after the pre-load as no scripted instructions can alter a servers' stamp which comes after the fact. You are wasting your time arguing with the pedophile Harry Krause. He defends any Fleabagger that comes by here. Especially when they are really him;) -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! |
The Mac26
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The Mac26
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:03:34 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote: On Apr 3, 5:01*pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Harryk" wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: *wrote in message ... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard The object of your attention is just another of the many on-line ID stealing morons that infect rec.boats. I filter him out. I tend to read them all and examine the headers. One can glean some interesting things from headers. Like, for example, Jessica B's and emdeplume (not omdeflume) have the same ISP, the same client, the same anonymous mail (hush.com). Could be just a coincidence but not likely. Wilbur Hubbard Reread the Mac26 website. They say to power only with the tanks full and board up Whoops. Maybe you know a tad more than Krause. That's why he's ignoring you. |
The Mac26
John H wrote:
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:03:34 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Apr 3, 5:01 pm, "Wilbur wrote: wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote: I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote: No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed. However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy, I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a MAc26 would use her motor. I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very well. I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts. My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a "Good Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more normal 5 kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think the same thing. So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26. There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is *their* boat, even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do, they denigrate everyone else's boat. In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly overloaded and grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to our resident *expert* it's the boat's fault. WAFDS! What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to nothing. For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge. Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is insults so that's what we get.... What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode. Morons. Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many sock puppets Irony meter pegs itself then erupts into flame . . . Wilbur Hubbard The object of your attention is just another of the many on-line ID stealing morons that infect rec.boats. I filter him out. I tend to read them all and examine the headers. One can glean some interesting things from headers. Like, for example, Jessica B's and emdeplume (not omdeflume) have the same ISP, the same client, the same anonymous mail (hush.com). Could be just a coincidence but not likely. Wilbur Hubbard Reread the Mac26 website. They say to power only with the tanks full and board up Whoops. Maybe you know a tad more than Krause. That's why he's ignoring you. D'oh. I'm the one who pointed out several times that the boat was inherently unstable under power unless the ballast tanks were filled. Moron. |
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