In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/03/2011 1:33 PM, John H wrote:
...that the liberals here probably don't want noticed:

"The fact is, close to five years after 9/11 and fifteen years after
the breakup
of the Soviet Union, the United States still lacks a coherent national
security
policy. Instead of guiding principles, we have what appear to be a
series of ad
hoc decisions, with dubious results. Why invade Iraq and not North
Korea or
Burma? Why intervene in Bosnia and not Darfur? ...Are we committed to
use force
wherever there?s a despotic regime that?s terrorizing its people?and
if so, how
long do we stay to ensure democracy takes root? ...Perhaps someone
inside the
White House has clear answers to these questions. But our allies - and
for that
matter our enemies-certainly don?t know what the answers are. More
important,
neither do the American people. Without a well-articulated strategy
that the
public supports and the world understands, America will lack the
legitimacy -
and ultimately the power - it needs to make the world safer than it is
today."

--Barack Obama. "The Audacity of Hope" (2006), page 302.




'We don?t get very hung up on this question of precedent. We don?t make
decisions about questions like intervention based on consistency or
precedent."

- Deputy National Security Adviser Denis McDonough, March 28, 2011

Obama has a foreign policy, destroy international relations and trust.
Help Al-Qaeda affiliates in Libya. I don't agree with it but do find him
consistent.

Any number of important world leaders and polls indicate just the
opposite, that since the Dunce left office, the esteem in which the USA
is held has risen. thanks to the Obama Administration.

Do you have any facts to support your assertion?

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:09:06 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , payer3389
says...

Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/03/2011 1:33 PM, John H wrote:
...that the liberals here probably don't want noticed:

"The fact is, close to five years after 9/11 and fifteen years after
the breakup
of the Soviet Union, the United States still lacks a coherent national
security
policy. Instead of guiding principles, we have what appear to be a
series of ad
hoc decisions, with dubious results. Why invade Iraq and not North
Korea or
Burma? Why intervene in Bosnia and not Darfur? ...Are we committed to
use force
wherever there?s a despotic regime that?s terrorizing its people?and
if so, how
long do we stay to ensure democracy takes root? ...Perhaps someone
inside the
White House has clear answers to these questions. But our allies - and
for that
matter our enemies-certainly don?t know what the answers are. More
important,
neither do the American people. Without a well-articulated strategy
that the
public supports and the world understands, America will lack the
legitimacy -
and ultimately the power - it needs to make the world safer than it is
today."

--Barack Obama. "The Audacity of Hope" (2006), page 302.




'We don?t get very hung up on this question of precedent. We don?t make
decisions about questions like intervention based on consistency or
precedent."

- Deputy National Security Adviser Denis McDonough, March 28, 2011

Obama has a foreign policy, destroy international relations and trust.
Help Al-Qaeda affiliates in Libya. I don't agree with it but do find him
consistent.

Any number of important world leaders and polls indicate just the
opposite, that since the Dunce left office, the esteem in which the USA
is held has risen. thanks to the Obama Administration.

Do you have any facts to support your assertion?


Listen to the news... no not Fox.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...82-503544.html

wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:09:06 -0400, wrote:

In articlelPmdnWE_G_WoNA7QnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/03/2011 1:33 PM, John H wrote:
...that the liberals here probably don't want noticed:

"The fact is, close to five years after 9/11 and fifteen years after
the breakup
of the Soviet Union, the United States still lacks a coherent national
security
policy. Instead of guiding principles, we have what appear to be a
series of ad
hoc decisions, with dubious results. Why invade Iraq and not North
Korea or
Burma? Why intervene in Bosnia and not Darfur? ...Are we committed to
use force
wherever there?s a despotic regime that?s terrorizing its people?and
if so, how
long do we stay to ensure democracy takes root? ...Perhaps someone
inside the
White House has clear answers to these questions. But our allies - and
for that
matter our enemies-certainly don?t know what the answers are. More
important,
neither do the American people. Without a well-articulated strategy
that the
public supports and the world understands, America will lack the
legitimacy -
and ultimately the power - it needs to make the world safer than it is
today."

--Barack Obama. "The Audacity of Hope" (2006), page 302.




'We don?t get very hung up on this question of precedent. We don?t make
decisions about questions like intervention based on consistency or
precedent."

- Deputy National Security Adviser Denis McDonough, March 28, 2011
Obama has a foreign policy, destroy international relations and trust.
Help Al-Qaeda affiliates in Libya. I don't agree with it but do find him
consistent.
Any number of important world leaders and polls indicate just the
opposite, that since the Dunce left office, the esteem in which the USA
is held has risen. thanks to the Obama Administration.
Do you have any facts to support your assertion?


Listen to the news... no not Fox.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...82-503544.html


Why bother trying to educate a birther like bertie?

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 20:26:49 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:09:06 -0400, wrote:

In articlelPmdnWE_G_WoNA7QnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/03/2011 1:33 PM, John H wrote:
...that the liberals here probably don't want noticed:

"The fact is, close to five years after 9/11 and fifteen years after
the breakup
of the Soviet Union, the United States still lacks a coherent national
security
policy. Instead of guiding principles, we have what appear to be a
series of ad
hoc decisions, with dubious results. Why invade Iraq and not North
Korea or
Burma? Why intervene in Bosnia and not Darfur? ...Are we committed to
use force
wherever there?s a despotic regime that?s terrorizing its people?and
if so, how
long do we stay to ensure democracy takes root? ...Perhaps someone
inside the
White House has clear answers to these questions. But our allies - and
for that
matter our enemies-certainly don?t know what the answers are. More
important,
neither do the American people. Without a well-articulated strategy
that the
public supports and the world understands, America will lack the
legitimacy -
and ultimately the power - it needs to make the world safer than it is
today."

--Barack Obama. "The Audacity of Hope" (2006), page 302.




'We don?t get very hung up on this question of precedent. We don?t make
decisions about questions like intervention based on consistency or
precedent."

- Deputy National Security Adviser Denis McDonough, March 28, 2011
Obama has a foreign policy, destroy international relations and trust.
Help Al-Qaeda affiliates in Libya. I don't agree with it but do find him
consistent.
Any number of important world leaders and polls indicate just the
opposite, that since the Dunce left office, the esteem in which the USA
is held has risen. thanks to the Obama Administration.
Do you have any facts to support your assertion?


Listen to the news... no not Fox.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...82-503544.html


Why bother trying to educate a birther like bertie?

I'm an optimistic person. It is rather foolish in this case...

wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 20:26:49 -0400,
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:09:06 -0400, wrote:

In articlelPmdnWE_G_WoNA7QnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/03/2011 1:33 PM, John H wrote:
...that the liberals here probably don't want noticed:

"The fact is, close to five years after 9/11 and fifteen years after
the breakup
of the Soviet Union, the United States still lacks a coherent national
security
policy. Instead of guiding principles, we have what appear to be a
series of ad
hoc decisions, with dubious results. Why invade Iraq and not North
Korea or
Burma? Why intervene in Bosnia and not Darfur? ...Are we committed to
use force
wherever there?s a despotic regime that?s terrorizing its people?and
if so, how
long do we stay to ensure democracy takes root? ...Perhaps someone
inside the
White House has clear answers to these questions. But our allies - and
for that
matter our enemies-certainly don?t know what the answers are. More
important,
neither do the American people. Without a well-articulated strategy
that the
public supports and the world understands, America will lack the
legitimacy -
and ultimately the power - it needs to make the world safer than it is
today."

--Barack Obama. "The Audacity of Hope" (2006), page 302.




'We don?t get very hung up on this question of precedent. We don?t make
decisions about questions like intervention based on consistency or
precedent."

- Deputy National Security Adviser Denis McDonough, March 28, 2011
Obama has a foreign policy, destroy international relations and trust.
Help Al-Qaeda affiliates in Libya. I don't agree with it but do find him
consistent.
Any number of important world leaders and polls indicate just the
opposite, that since the Dunce left office, the esteem in which the USA
is held has risen. thanks to the Obama Administration.
Do you have any facts to support your assertion?

Listen to the news... no not Fox.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...82-503544.html

Why bother trying to educate a birther like bertie?

I'm an optimistic person. It is rather foolish in this case...


He's just another right-wing deadhead, no offense to G.D. fans.

On 30/03/2011 4:05 PM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/03/2011 1:33 PM, John H wrote:
...that the liberals here probably don't want noticed:

"The fact is, close to five years after 9/11 and fifteen years after
the breakup
of the Soviet Union, the United States still lacks a coherent national
security
policy. Instead of guiding principles, we have what appear to be a
series of ad
hoc decisions, with dubious results. Why invade Iraq and not North
Korea or
Burma? Why intervene in Bosnia and not Darfur? ...Are we committed to
use force
wherever there’s a despotic regime that’s terrorizing its people—and
if so, how
long do we stay to ensure democracy takes root? ...Perhaps someone
inside the
White House has clear answers to these questions. But our allies - and
for that
matter our enemies-certainly don’t know what the answers are. More
important,
neither do the American people. Without a well-articulated strategy
that the
public supports and the world understands, America will lack the
legitimacy -
and ultimately the power - it needs to make the world safer than it is
today."

--Barack Obama. "The Audacity of Hope" (2006), page 302.




'We don’t get very hung up on this question of precedent. We don’t make
decisions about questions like intervention based on consistency or
precedent."

- Deputy National Security Adviser Denis McDonough, March 28, 2011

Obama has a foreign policy, destroy international relations and trust.
Help Al-Qaeda affiliates in Libya. I don't agree with it but do find him
consistent.

Any number of important world leaders and polls indicate just the
opposite, that since the Dunce left office, the esteem in which the USA
is held has risen. thanks to the Obama Administration.

Funny, you would support Obama if he sprouted two horns and breathed fire.

Left usually can't justify their position.

On 30/03/2011 4:20 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:05:40 -0400,
wrote:

Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/03/2011 1:33 PM, John H wrote:
...that the liberals here probably don't want noticed:

"The fact is, close to five years after 9/11 and fifteen years after
the breakup
of the Soviet Union, the United States still lacks a coherent national
security
policy. Instead of guiding principles, we have what appear to be a
series of ad
hoc decisions, with dubious results. Why invade Iraq and not North
Korea or
Burma? Why intervene in Bosnia and not Darfur? ...Are we committed to
use force
wherever there’s a despotic regime that’s terrorizing its people—and
if so, how
long do we stay to ensure democracy takes root? ...Perhaps someone
inside the
White House has clear answers to these questions. But our allies - and
for that
matter our enemies-certainly don’t know what the answers are. More
important,
neither do the American people. Without a well-articulated strategy
that the
public supports and the world understands, America will lack the
legitimacy -
and ultimately the power - it needs to make the world safer than it is
today."

--Barack Obama. "The Audacity of Hope" (2006), page 302.




'We don’t get very hung up on this question of precedent. We don’t make
decisions about questions like intervention based on consistency or
precedent."

- Deputy National Security Adviser Denis McDonough, March 28, 2011

Obama has a foreign policy, destroy international relations and trust.
Help Al-Qaeda affiliates in Libya. I don't agree with it but do find him
consistent.

Any number of important world leaders and polls indicate just the
opposite, that since the Dunce left office, the esteem in which the USA
is held has risen. thanks to the Obama Administration.

Doesn't matter to Knuckles what anyone else thinks. They're all WRONG.

Truth is getting out. Rebel forces are tops, 1500 rag tag mostly you
males aspiring al Qaeda types.

Obama is backing the enemy!!! Priceless. Arrogant Obama screwed up
again and you lefties can't admit he screwed up.

On 30/03/2011 4:19 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:36:31 -0600,
wrote:

On 30/03/2011 1:33 PM, John H wrote:
...that the liberals here probably don't want noticed:

"The fact is, close to five years after 9/11 and fifteen years after the breakup
of the Soviet Union, the United States still lacks a coherent national security
policy. Instead of guiding principles, we have what appear to be a series of ad
hoc decisions, with dubious results. Why invade Iraq and not North Korea or
Burma? Why intervene in Bosnia and not Darfur? ...Are we committed to use force
wherever there’s a despotic regime that’s terrorizing its people—and if so, how
long do we stay to ensure democracy takes root? ...Perhaps someone inside the
White House has clear answers to these questions. But our allies - and for that
matter our enemies-certainly don’t know what the answers are. More important,
neither do the American people. Without a well-articulated strategy that the
public supports and the world understands, America will lack the legitimacy -
and ultimately the power - it needs to make the world safer than it is today."

--Barack Obama. "The Audacity of Hope" (2006), page 302.




'We don’t get very hung up on this question of precedent. We don’t make
decisions about questions like intervention based on consistency or precedent."

- Deputy National Security Adviser Denis McDonough, March 28, 2011

Obama has a foreign policy, destroy international relations and trust.
Help Al-Qaeda affiliates in Libya. I don't agree with it but do find
him consistent.

You're delusional? If you substitute Bush for Obama in your nonsense,
it would almost make sense.

Not at all. Bush went to Congress before making acts of war. Came back
with Democriter and Republican support. Further, Bush had provocation
-- Libya had no provocation pure and simple. Just probably told Obama to
shove it up his ass. Mubarack kissed Obama's ass but Qaddafi told Obma
where to stuff it.

Obama is fishing this war on political egos, back room deals and for
UN-France colonialism and money.

If Obama ever had to face a honest court devoid of political distortions
he would be tried for an assassination attempt and war without provocation.

Put a leash on Obama or better yet, impeach him.

On 3/30/2011 6:05 PM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/03/2011 1:33 PM, John H wrote:
...that the liberals here probably don't want noticed:

"The fact is, close to five years after 9/11 and fifteen years after
the breakup
of the Soviet Union, the United States still lacks a coherent national
security
policy. Instead of guiding principles, we have what appear to be a
series of ad
hoc decisions, with dubious results. Why invade Iraq and not North
Korea or
Burma? Why intervene in Bosnia and not Darfur? ...Are we committed to
use force
wherever there’s a despotic regime that’s terrorizing its people—and
if so, how
long do we stay to ensure democracy takes root? ...Perhaps someone
inside the
White House has clear answers to these questions. But our allies - and
for that
matter our enemies-certainly don’t know what the answers are. More
important,
neither do the American people. Without a well-articulated strategy
that the
public supports and the world understands, America will lack the
legitimacy -
and ultimately the power - it needs to make the world safer than it is
today."

--Barack Obama. "The Audacity of Hope" (2006), page 302.




'We don’t get very hung up on this question of precedent. We don’t make
decisions about questions like intervention based on consistency or
precedent."

- Deputy National Security Adviser Denis McDonough, March 28, 2011

Obama has a foreign policy, destroy international relations and trust.
Help Al-Qaeda affiliates in Libya. I don't agree with it but do find him
consistent.

Any number of important world leaders and polls indicate just the
opposite, that since the Dunce left office, the esteem in which the USA
is held has risen. thanks to the Obama Administration.


One year ago in your huffington post

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wajaha..._b_460900.html

And the news is even more grim today

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/...-Time-Low.html

Sorry Obama. You are on the way out.

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:34:36 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 30/03/2011 4:20 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:05:40 -0400,
wrote:

Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/03/2011 1:33 PM, John H wrote:
...that the liberals here probably don't want noticed:

"The fact is, close to five years after 9/11 and fifteen years after
the breakup
of the Soviet Union, the United States still lacks a coherent national
security
policy. Instead of guiding principles, we have what appear to be a
series of ad
hoc decisions, with dubious results. Why invade Iraq and not North
Korea or
Burma? Why intervene in Bosnia and not Darfur? ...Are we committed to
use force
wherever there’s a despotic regime that’s terrorizing its people—and
if so, how
long do we stay to ensure democracy takes root? ...Perhaps someone
inside the
White House has clear answers to these questions. But our allies - and
for that
matter our enemies-certainly don’t know what the answers are. More
important,
neither do the American people. Without a well-articulated strategy
that the
public supports and the world understands, America will lack the
legitimacy -
and ultimately the power - it needs to make the world safer than it is
today."

--Barack Obama. "The Audacity of Hope" (2006), page 302.




'We don’t get very hung up on this question of precedent. We don’t make
decisions about questions like intervention based on consistency or
precedent."

- Deputy National Security Adviser Denis McDonough, March 28, 2011

Obama has a foreign policy, destroy international relations and trust.
Help Al-Qaeda affiliates in Libya. I don't agree with it but do find him
consistent.

Any number of important world leaders and polls indicate just the
opposite, that since the Dunce left office, the esteem in which the USA
is held has risen. thanks to the Obama Administration.

Doesn't matter to Knuckles what anyone else thinks. They're all WRONG.

Truth is getting out. Rebel forces are tops, 1500 rag tag mostly you
males aspiring al Qaeda types.

Obama is backing the enemy!!! Priceless. Arrogant Obama screwed up
again and you lefties can't admit he screwed up.

The truth has already gotten out... you're an idiot.