On 24/03/2011 10:26 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 05:45:03 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:19:09 -0600,
wrote:

On 22/03/2011 5:57 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 17:43:10 -0600,
wrote:

Didn't big mouth THE Obama "In Debt We Trust!" also say he was going to
end the war? Oh well, just another liar politician with no brains, just
lies.


number of troops in iraq when bush was pres

150,000

number under obama

50,000

Well he just dumped a billion or more debt-dollars into Libya.

which comes out of DoD money already spent. and he's dumping the war
onto the french and norwegians.

let them run it.


This is just part of the stimulus package. Raytheon will have to
replace all of those fired Tomahawks and the sub contractors spread
out across the US. They may even get Boing/MD to build a few if they
still have a contract. That gets a few more congressional districts in
the action.

This "dumping it on the French" is a nice subterfuge politically in
the US but the French do not have that good a reputation in North
Africa. This could blow up in our face.
I am sure Qdaffy is already spinning this as the European
recolonization of Africa and if that catches hold, we could hit a
wall.
Politically, this is a lot more complicated than simply huddled masses
yearning to be free.
These dictators may have been nasty SOBs but they were our nasty SOBs
They pretty much agreed not to oppress anyone outside their borders,
sell the west cheap oil and leave Israel alone.
We really can't afford to lose any of those bargains.

Agreed, it is more complex, and much of it we have not been told.

My guess is this, Obama tried to talk to Gadafi like he did with Egypt.
But Gadafi told Obama to fly a kite. Obama has a wild ego so he would
immediately support his assassination. France, it is easy, just look at
the rich aristocracy in France, Total Oil and others for the answer. It
is about colonialization. France knows a new succession leader might
just do a Venezuela like takeover. Canada has interest there but UK and
Canda are just US/UN ftag alongs.

Saudi/Arab, it is a nice diversion to take attention off of the real
carnage to unarmed civilians n Yemen and Behrain. Further, Gadafi never
really fit in to the Arab oil racketeering cartels so Saudi view him as
a victim of convenience. Maybe adafi even told a Bin Laden family
member to take a hike.

So in the end it is more of politicial grudge war and deception. It
isn't about oil, Libya is less than 2%, Canada, Brazil and others can
make that up. It isn't about freedom, these are armed rebels with
al-Qaeda ties, hardly democracy.

Nope, this is a purely political war of politicians egos.

Our governments have become far too big for anyones good.

Canuck57 wrote:


My guess is this, Obama tried to talk to Gadafi like he did with Egypt.
But Gadafi told Obama to fly a kite. Obama has a wild ego so he would
immediately support his assassination. France, it is easy, just look at
the rich aristocracy in France, Total Oil and others for the answer. It
is about colonialization. France knows a new succession leader might
just do a Venezuela like takeover. Canada has interest there but UK and
Canda are just US/UN ftag alongs.

Saudi/Arab, it is a nice diversion to take attention off of the real
carnage to unarmed civilians n Yemen and Behrain. Further, Gadafi never
really fit in to the Arab oil racketeering cartels so Saudi view him as
a victim of convenience. Maybe adafi even told a Bin Laden family member
to take a hike.

So in the end it is more of politicial grudge war and deception. It
isn't about oil, Libya is less than 2%, Canada, Brazil and others can
make that up. It isn't about freedom, these are armed rebels with
al-Qaeda ties, hardly democracy.

Nope, this is a purely political war of politicians egos.

Our governments have become far too big for anyones good.


Your posts make you "sound" like a clone of Michelle Bachmann.

That's not a compliment.

In article ,
says...

Canuck57 wrote:


My guess is this, Obama tried to talk to Gadafi like he did with Egypt.
But Gadafi told Obama to fly a kite. Obama has a wild ego so he would
immediately support his assassination. France, it is easy, just look at
the rich aristocracy in France, Total Oil and others for the answer. It
is about colonialization. France knows a new succession leader might
just do a Venezuela like takeover. Canada has interest there but UK and
Canda are just US/UN ftag alongs.

Saudi/Arab, it is a nice diversion to take attention off of the real
carnage to unarmed civilians n Yemen and Behrain. Further, Gadafi never
really fit in to the Arab oil racketeering cartels so Saudi view him as
a victim of convenience. Maybe adafi even told a Bin Laden family member
to take a hike.

So in the end it is more of politicial grudge war and deception. It
isn't about oil, Libya is less than 2%, Canada, Brazil and others can
make that up. It isn't about freedom, these are armed rebels with
al-Qaeda ties, hardly democracy.

Nope, this is a purely political war of politicians egos.

Our governments have become far too big for anyones good.


Your posts make you "sound" like a clone of Michelle Bachmann.

That's not a compliment.

Who boy.. we are not surprised. You're typical tactic is to attack
whoever happens to be in the news cycle that day. Your opinions are
completely devoid of thought or integerity, nobody here cares who you
and the DNC attack today...

I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...
Canuck57 wrote:

My guess is this, Obama tried to talk to Gadafi like he did with Egypt.
But Gadafi told Obama to fly a kite. Obama has a wild ego so he would
immediately support his assassination. France, it is easy, just look at
the rich aristocracy in France, Total Oil and others for the answer. It
is about colonialization. France knows a new succession leader might
just do a Venezuela like takeover. Canada has interest there but UK and
Canda are just US/UN ftag alongs.

Saudi/Arab, it is a nice diversion to take attention off of the real
carnage to unarmed civilians n Yemen and Behrain. Further, Gadafi never
really fit in to the Arab oil racketeering cartels so Saudi view him as
a victim of convenience. Maybe adafi even told a Bin Laden family member
to take a hike.

So in the end it is more of politicial grudge war and deception. It
isn't about oil, Libya is less than 2%, Canada, Brazil and others can
make that up. It isn't about freedom, these are armed rebels with
al-Qaeda ties, hardly democracy.

Nope, this is a purely political war of politicians egos.

Our governments have become far too big for anyones good.

Your posts make you "sound" like a clone of Michelle Bachmann.

That's not a compliment.

Who boy.. we are not surprised. You're typical tactic is to attack
whoever happens to be in the news cycle that day. Your opinions are
completely devoid of thought or integerity, nobody here cares who you
and the DNC attack today...


It figures that the newsgroup moron, Scotty Ingersoll, would come to the
defense of the House of Representatives moron, Michele Bachmann.

Is Bachmann in the news cycle today? I'll have to go check...

On 24/03/2011 12:33 PM, Harryk wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...
Canuck57 wrote:

My guess is this, Obama tried to talk to Gadafi like he did with Egypt.
But Gadafi told Obama to fly a kite. Obama has a wild ego so he would
immediately support his assassination. France, it is easy, just look at
the rich aristocracy in France, Total Oil and others for the answer. It
is about colonialization. France knows a new succession leader might
just do a Venezuela like takeover. Canada has interest there but UK and
Canda are just US/UN ftag alongs.

Saudi/Arab, it is a nice diversion to take attention off of the real
carnage to unarmed civilians n Yemen and Behrain. Further, Gadafi never
really fit in to the Arab oil racketeering cartels so Saudi view him as
a victim of convenience. Maybe adafi even told a Bin Laden family
member
to take a hike.

So in the end it is more of politicial grudge war and deception. It
isn't about oil, Libya is less than 2%, Canada, Brazil and others can
make that up. It isn't about freedom, these are armed rebels with
al-Qaeda ties, hardly democracy.

Nope, this is a purely political war of politicians egos.

Our governments have become far too big for anyones good.

Your posts make you "sound" like a clone of Michelle Bachmann.

That's not a compliment.

Who boy.. we are not surprised. You're typical tactic is to attack
whoever happens to be in the news cycle that day. Your opinions are
completely devoid of thought or integerity, nobody here cares who you
and the DNC attack today...


It figures that the newsgroup moron, Scotty Ingersoll, would come to the
defense of the House of Representatives moron, Michele Bachmann.

Is Bachmann in the news cycle today? I'll have to go check...

You fleabagers want to criticize Michele Bachmann?

First, you might want to clean house of democratic deadwould like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyo3hIOwskI

I can only imagine just how stupid the constituants must be to vote for
this peace of work. Total emabarasement. If democrats were at all
serious, they would boot this trash out of their party. But then again,
lots of trash democrats would vote for him....

Proves democrats are stupid. As this guy is dumber than a mushroom.

On 24/03/2011 11:24 AM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:


My guess is this, Obama tried to talk to Gadafi like he did with Egypt.
But Gadafi told Obama to fly a kite. Obama has a wild ego so he would
immediately support his assassination. France, it is easy, just look at
the rich aristocracy in France, Total Oil and others for the answer. It
is about colonialization. France knows a new succession leader might
just do a Venezuela like takeover. Canada has interest there but UK and
Canda are just US/UN ftag alongs.

Saudi/Arab, it is a nice diversion to take attention off of the real
carnage to unarmed civilians n Yemen and Behrain. Further, Gadafi never
really fit in to the Arab oil racketeering cartels so Saudi view him as
a victim of convenience. Maybe adafi even told a Bin Laden family member
to take a hike.

So in the end it is more of politicial grudge war and deception. It
isn't about oil, Libya is less than 2%, Canada, Brazil and others can
make that up. It isn't about freedom, these are armed rebels with
al-Qaeda ties, hardly democracy.

Nope, this is a purely political war of politicians egos.

Our governments have become far too big for anyones good.


Your posts make you "sound" like a clone of Michelle Bachmann.

That's not a compliment.

Don't get her up here in Kanada. Will have to look her up on the web.

So how is Biden doing on moving for impeachment? And Ron Paul?

Sounds like Obama thinks he does not have to listen to congress. Maybe
congress needs to rub Obama nose into the constitution for a bit until
Obama understands democracy.

On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:56:51 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:



Agreed, it is more complex, and much of it we have not been told.

My guess is this, Obama tried to talk to Gadafi like he did with Egypt.
But Gadafi told Obama to fly a kite.

i hope. that way obama continues to be seen as he is. a man of peace


Obama has a wild ego so he would
immediately support his assassination. France, it is easy, just look at
the rich aristocracy in France, Total Oil and others for the answer. It
is about colonialization. France knows a new succession leader might
just do a Venezuela like takeover. Canada has interest there but UK and
Canda are just US/UN ftag alongs.

so you think all we have to do is to continue to support crazed
dictators and everything's gonna be alright

proof? well none.


Saudi/Arab, it is a nice diversion to take attention off of the real
carnage to unarmed civilians n Yemen and Behrain. Further, Gadafi never
really fit in to the Arab oil racketeering cartels so Saudi view him as
a victim of convenience. Maybe adafi even told a Bin Laden family
member to take a hike.

go ahead and live in your fantasy world. i suppose in your world,
japanese reactors never have partial meltdowns either




So in the end it is more of politicial grudge war and deception. It
isn't about oil, Libya is less than 2%, Canada, Brazil and others can
make that up. It isn't about freedom, these are armed rebels with
al-Qaeda ties, hardly democracy.

and you believe this because gaddhafi said it.

uh huh

On 24/03/2011 4:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:56:51 -0600,
wrote:



Agreed, it is more complex, and much of it we have not been told.

My guess is this, Obama tried to talk to Gadafi like he did with Egypt.
But Gadafi told Obama to fly a kite.

i hope. that way obama continues to be seen as he is. a man of peace

Obama is a war monger. Mumbarek was polite. Gadhafi probably told
Obama to f- himself. So Obama sends him a cruise missile in an
assassination attempt.

Obama has a wild ego so he would
immediately support his assassination. France, it is easy, just look at
the rich aristocracy in France, Total Oil and others for the answer. It
is about colonialization. France knows a new succession leader might
just do a Venezuela like takeover. Canada has interest there but UK and
Canda are just US/UN ftag alongs.

so you think all we have to do is to continue to support crazed
dictators and everything's gonna be alright

proof? well none.

The cruise missile says it all.

Saudi/Arab, it is a nice diversion to take attention off of the real
carnage to unarmed civilians n Yemen and Behrain. Further, Gadafi never
really fit in to the Arab oil racketeering cartels so Saudi view him as
a victim of convenience. Maybe adafi even told a Bin Laden family
member to take a hike.

go ahead and live in your fantasy world. i suppose in your world,
japanese reactors never have partial meltdowns either

You mean like Three Mile Island, the GE designed reactors in Japan, you
got 23 exactly like them in your back yard. Even more if you count
similar models. You might not want to be so smug.

So in the end it is more of politicial grudge war and deception. It
isn't about oil, Libya is less than 2%, Canada, Brazil and others can
make that up. It isn't about freedom, these are armed rebels with
al-Qaeda ties, hardly democracy.

and you believe this because gaddhafi said it.

uh huh

Nope, I follow the energy markets. I even have stocks in companies that
do business in Libya. Almost got there myself once back in the early
80's when I used to have to work for a living, but now invest.

In fact, I used this to add to my positions in some select buying
opportunities. Already made money too.

If it is about freedom and democracy, Yemen and Behrain would not be
ignored. They are actually worse shape. No, Obama, UN, France and
Saudi -- they want Gadafi out so they can keep it a nice subservient
colonial place and a little ego satisfaction.

On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:05:47 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 24/03/2011 4:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:56:51 -0600,
wrote:



Agreed, it is more complex, and much of it we have not been told.

My guess is this, Obama tried to talk to Gadafi like he did with Egypt.
But Gadafi told Obama to fly a kite.

i hope. that way obama continues to be seen as he is. a man of peace

Obama is a war monger.

now let's see....

number of wars started w/o UN approval:

bush: 1
obama: 0

yeah. but bush is white...


so you think all we have to do is to continue to support crazed
dictators and everything's gonna be alright

proof? well none.

The cruise missile says it all.

so you have no proof. yep. figured that.


Saudi/Arab, it is a nice diversion to take attention off of the real
carnage to unarmed civilians n Yemen and Behrain. Further, Gadafi never
really fit in to the Arab oil racketeering cartels so Saudi view him as
a victim of convenience. Maybe adafi even told a Bin Laden family
member to take a hike.

go ahead and live in your fantasy world. i suppose in your world,
japanese reactors never have partial meltdowns either

You mean like Three Mile Island, the GE designed reactors in Japan, you
got 23 exactly like them in your back yard. Even more if you count
similar models. You might not want to be so smug.

hey you're the rightie with the view that all blacks should be
domestics. not me


and you believe this because gaddhafi said it.

uh huh

Nope, I follow the energy markets.

gee. so do the taliban. they visited the US in 94 to discuss a
pipeline

would you have supported those nice gentlemen??


If it is about freedom and democracy, Yemen and Behrain would not be
ignored. They are actually worse shape. No, Obama, UN, France and
Saudi -- they want Gadafi out so they can keep it a nice subservient
colonial place and a little ego satisfaction.

whatever this means

we havent had relations with libya for over 25 years. your tin foil
hat needs a calendar