Gas getting higher.
 

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:44:56 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:24:46 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, jps wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.

I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.

Any time oil/gas prices go up, it becomes very popular to think that
there is some vast conspiracy behind it. Who's fault is it when
prices go the other way as they sometimes do? There are vast numbers
of middle men involved in the production, distribution, refining and
transportation of oil. If they think prices are going up in the near
future because of a posible shortage, they do the same thing that you
and I would do, and try to buy more right now. The only collusion
involved is supply and demand.

As was mentioned earlier in this thread, reserves are going up at the
same time price is going up. That's not supply and demand.

Gas getting higher.
 

On 2/28/11 12:01 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 07:52:11 -0500,
wrote:

On 2/28/11 7:45 AM, BAR wrote:
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.

I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.

Have you reald Welch's book.


Indeed, I've read Welch's The Politician, and also the Bluebook of the
John Birch Society. My mother got them for me as gag gifts while in high
school and after I was graduated. That right-wing lunatic, Koch, is a
prominent Bircher. My mom, a minor Republican functionary in New Haven,
said, "you'll get a laugh out of *this* craziness."

Oh, wait, you probably are referring to a different Welch.

Damn, Bertie the Bircher. Probably worships Pat Buchannan.


We all know that the Commies fluoridate our water in order to diminish
our precious bodily fluids.

Gas getting higher.
 

On 2/28/11 12:03 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:44:56 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:24:46 -0800, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.

I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.

Any time oil/gas prices go up, it becomes very popular to think that
there is some vast conspiracy behind it. Who's fault is it when
prices go the other way as they sometimes do? There are vast numbers
of middle men involved in the production, distribution, refining and
transportation of oil. If they think prices are going up in the near
future because of a posible shortage, they do the same thing that you
and I would do, and try to buy more right now. The only collusion
involved is supply and demand.

As was mentioned earlier in this thread, reserves are going up at the
same time price is going up. That's not supply and demand.


It's corporate collusion.

Gas getting higher.
 

On 2/28/2011 12:03 PM, jps wrote:

involved is supply and demand.
As was mentioned earlier in this thread, reserves are going up at the
same time price is going up. That's not supply and demand.
They got you by the gonads. You can't do anything about it. Oh wait.
there is something you can do. Take the bus.

Gas getting higher.
 

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:44:56 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:24:46 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, jps wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.

I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.

Any time oil/gas prices go up, it becomes very popular to think that
there is some vast conspiracy behind it. Who's fault is it when
prices go the other way as they sometimes do? There are vast numbers
of middle men involved in the production, distribution, refining and
transportation of oil. If they think prices are going up in the near
future because of a posible shortage, they do the same thing that you
and I would do, and try to buy more right now. The only collusion
involved is supply and demand.

Actually, it's pretty obvious there is a conspiracy. It isn't about
fixing prices though. It's about corps not giving a crap about this
country or its people. They attempt to rig the electoral process and
usually succeed.

Gas getting higher.
 

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 09:03:59 -0800, jps wrote:

Any time oil/gas prices go up, it becomes very popular to think that
there is some vast conspiracy behind it. Who's fault is it when
prices go the other way as they sometimes do? There are vast numbers
of middle men involved in the production, distribution, refining and
transportation of oil. If they think prices are going up in the near
future because of a posible shortage, they do the same thing that you
and I would do, and try to buy more right now. The only collusion
involved is supply and demand.

As was mentioned earlier in this thread, reserves are going up at the
same time price is going up. That's not supply and demand.

Of course it is. The reserves are created by people buying in
advance of actual need in expectation that supplies may be tighter at
a later date and/or prices higher. There is no big tank labeled
reserves. It is the sum total of inventory on hand.

Gas getting higher.
 

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:12:34 -0800, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:44:56 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:24:46 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, jps wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.

I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.

Any time oil/gas prices go up, it becomes very popular to think that
there is some vast conspiracy behind it. Who's fault is it when
prices go the other way as they sometimes do? There are vast numbers
of middle men involved in the production, distribution, refining and
transportation of oil. If they think prices are going up in the near
future because of a posible shortage, they do the same thing that you
and I would do, and try to buy more right now. The only collusion
involved is supply and demand.

Actually, it's pretty obvious there is a conspiracy. It isn't about
fixing prices though. It's about corps not giving a crap about this
country or its people. They attempt to rig the electoral process and
usually succeed.

You and Harry are too much with this corporate conspiracy nonsense.
Perhaps you can both go to Venezuela and help Chavez nationalize their
remaining industries.

Gas getting higher.
 

On 2/28/2011 2:12 PM, wrote:

volved is supply and demand.
Actually, it's pretty obvious there is a conspiracy. It isn't about
fixing prices though. It's about corps not giving a crap about this
country or its people. They attempt to rig the electoral process and
usually succeed.
Yup you're right. Obama is one of them. After 2 years, it's pretty obvious.

Gas getting higher.
 

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:16:04 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:12:34 -0800, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:44:56 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:24:46 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, jps wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.

I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.

Any time oil/gas prices go up, it becomes very popular to think that
there is some vast conspiracy behind it. Who's fault is it when
prices go the other way as they sometimes do? There are vast numbers
of middle men involved in the production, distribution, refining and
transportation of oil. If they think prices are going up in the near
future because of a posible shortage, they do the same thing that you
and I would do, and try to buy more right now. The only collusion
involved is supply and demand.

Actually, it's pretty obvious there is a conspiracy. It isn't about
fixing prices though. It's about corps not giving a crap about this
country or its people. They attempt to rig the electoral process and
usually succeed.

You and Harry are too much with this corporate conspiracy nonsense.
Perhaps you can both go to Venezuela and help Chavez nationalize their
remaining industries.

So you believe that corps have the best interest of the US in mind? I
thought they had the best interest of their shareholders and CEOs in
mind first.

Nobody is talking about nationalizing companies, but you'd rather
deflect any discussion about reasonable regulation.

Gas getting higher.
 

On 2/28/11 3:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:16:04 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:12:34 -0800, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:44:56 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:24:46 -0800, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.

I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.

Any time oil/gas prices go up, it becomes very popular to think that
there is some vast conspiracy behind it. Who's fault is it when
prices go the other way as they sometimes do? There are vast numbers
of middle men involved in the production, distribution, refining and
transportation of oil. If they think prices are going up in the near
future because of a posible shortage, they do the same thing that you
and I would do, and try to buy more right now. The only collusion
involved is supply and demand.

Actually, it's pretty obvious there is a conspiracy. It isn't about
fixing prices though. It's about corps not giving a crap about this
country or its people. They attempt to rig the electoral process and
usually succeed.

You and Harry are too much with this corporate conspiracy nonsense.
Perhaps you can both go to Venezuela and help Chavez nationalize their
remaining industries.

So you believe that corps have the best interest of the US in mind? I
thought they had the best interest of their shareholders and CEOs in
mind first.

Nobody is talking about nationalizing companies, but you'd rather
deflect any discussion about reasonable regulation.


It's corporations uber alles, nothing less. Wayne wants us to think
corporations don't talk to each other because there are virtually
unenforced regulations against doing so. He obviously spent his working
life working for a large corporation and is rationalizing it.