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Tim March 2nd 11 12:41 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
This is when it was cheaper

http://www.joncouture.com/ArmLegGs.jpg

Now it's:

http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...-gasprices.htm

And tomorrow it'll probably be

http://media.photobucket.com/image/g.../gasprices.gif


HenryK[_2_] March 2nd 11 02:31 PM

Gas getting higher.
 


You know the saying..."big boat, small dick..."

Says something about you Mr alleged 40 foot twin diesels!

So we should dub Donny with his little boat, "Big dick Head" and Harry
with his big boat, "Little Pussy". Case closed.

HenryK[_2_] March 2nd 11 02:34 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On 3/2/2011 7:02 AM, BAR wrote:
In , says...
I'm sure any client who would use your services would also need a very
compliant CPA firm.
That is if you actually believe Harry's bull****.

Has he ever given you cause to doubt his word? Besides, Paul would vouch
for him.

Oh, if Paul is going to vouch for Harry's veracity then Harry must be an
ok guy.

By the way, who is Paul?


Paul is the little guy who sits on Harry's shoulder and whispers in his ear.

[email protected] March 2nd 11 06:11 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:56:05 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 21:25:27 -0800,
wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:23:17 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:32:59 -0800,
wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 15:56:32 -0500,
wrote:



If I was just picking low fruit I would point out Plume is a
facilitator of these evil corporations by litigating patents that
allow them monopoly power in the markets.

Except that your nit picking would be out of date. As I've said, I no
longer work for big companies.

So you just create small monopolies for guys who want to be big
companies?


So, you think we should abandon the patent process. I guess you need
to read up on why we have one.


I can argue either side of this.
I can take this side or the one you make below in your second response


Try getting some facts and get back.



Why is Avastin 130 bucks a pill when it costs pennies to produce?

Genetech has the patent on it.

Because there's no way to effectively negotiate a lower price.

... because of patent attorneys.


Nope. It's all about lack of ability to negotiate a better price,
e.g., like letting Medicare do it?


You can't negotiate with a monopoly, what is your leverage?

Lower your price or I will do without?


I guess the VA doesn't do that then.

http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/122105cdpm1.htm


jps March 2nd 11 07:38 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 08:41:00 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:29:11 -0800, jps wrote:

As was mentioned earlier in this thread, reserves are going up at the
same time price is going up. That's not supply and demand.

Of course it is. The reserves are created by people buying in
advance of actual need in expectation that supplies may be tighter at
a later date and/or prices higher. There is no big tank labeled
reserves. It is the sum total of inventory on hand.


That's a bunch of crap. Those markets are manipulated as are the
stock prices you hold so dear. Let's see how much you like 'em when
they take the next dump.


Let's see if I understand this. When asset prices are moving in a
direction that is favorable to you, it's because you are a shrewd
investor and money manager. When values move in an unfavorable
direction it is because you are being manipulated?

Thanks, think I've got it now.


You must be projecting or you're putting words in my mouth. I know
more about the equity markets than you'll ever know. Most of the
valuations are bogus and financial reports are manipulated to match
the analysts expectations. The books are prepared to support the
message, not reality.

It's a rigged game that favors those with the tools to predict and the
resources to manipulate.

You still think Wall Street is a safe gamble? You'd be better off in
a casino betting on craps. Smart people took their cash out of the
market in the late 1990s and never put it back in.

Maybe you'll be lucky enough to have a boat to live on when the next
dump takes you to naught.

jps March 2nd 11 09:20 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 15:22:29 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 11:38:55 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 08:41:00 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:29:11 -0800, jps wrote:

As was mentioned earlier in this thread, reserves are going up at the
same time price is going up. That's not supply and demand.

Of course it is. The reserves are created by people buying in
advance of actual need in expectation that supplies may be tighter at
a later date and/or prices higher. There is no big tank labeled
reserves. It is the sum total of inventory on hand.

That's a bunch of crap. Those markets are manipulated as are the
stock prices you hold so dear. Let's see how much you like 'em when
they take the next dump.

Let's see if I understand this. When asset prices are moving in a
direction that is favorable to you, it's because you are a shrewd
investor and money manager. When values move in an unfavorable
direction it is because you are being manipulated?

Thanks, think I've got it now.


You must be projecting or you're putting words in my mouth. I know
more about the equity markets than you'll ever know. Most of the
valuations are bogus and financial reports are manipulated to match
the analysts expectations. The books are prepared to support the
message, not reality.

It's a rigged game that favors those with the tools to predict and the
resources to manipulate.

You still think Wall Street is a safe gamble? You'd be better off in
a casino betting on craps. Smart people took their cash out of the
market in the late 1990s and never put it back in.

Maybe you'll be lucky enough to have a boat to live on when the next
dump takes you to naught.



I look at Wall Street like Jai Alai, You are never really sure what is
going on and you don't really understand the rules but if you can bet
with the smart money you can win.


That may be true but smart one day can be idiotic the next.

Lehman is out of busines. The game is rigged and Goldman has won, but
that doesn't mean that your Goldman broker is anymore on the inside or
working in your interests. They sold **** to their best customers in
hopes of keeping their bonus checks coming.

[email protected] March 2nd 11 10:02 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:18:08 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:11:52 -0800,
wrote:



Nope. It's all about lack of ability to negotiate a better price,
e.g., like letting Medicare do it?

You can't negotiate with a monopoly, what is your leverage?

Lower your price or I will do without?


I guess the VA doesn't do that then.

http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/122105cdpm1.htm

Who is stopping Medicare then?

Is it just that DVA is better than the bumbling bureaucracy at HHS?


Congress is stopping them. But, that can't be fixed, right?

Wayne.B March 3rd 11 01:54 AM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 11:38:55 -0800, jps wrote:

I know
more about the equity markets than you'll ever know.


That is highly unlikely but I'm not going to compare resumes with you
in this forum. Suffice it to say that I spent 40 years in the
industry. If that fails me, my youngest son is an ivy league MBA and
CFA.

Most of the
valuations are bogus and financial reports are manipulated to match
the analysts expectations.


Really? There are people who would pay you very well if your findings
are correct. Why not sell those companies short or buy put options?

The books are prepared to support the
message, not reality.


Perhaps you could cite some examples other than the outright frauds
like Enron, and the recent fiasco with mortgage backed securities.

It's a rigged game that favors those with the tools to predict and the
resources to manipulate.


If you don't have the know how to study, predict and analyze you are
definitely playing with half a deck. There's an old saying in poker
that if you look around the table and can't figure out who the patsy
is, it's probably you.

You still think Wall Street is a safe gamble? You'd be better off in
a casino betting on craps. Smart people took their cash out of the
market in the late 1990s and never put it back in.


Poor analogy. The market is not without risk but it is most
definitely not a casino. The casino always wins - it is a
mathematical certainty. The right way to think of the stock market is
as a collection of companies in which you can individually assume a
part ownership, or not. Would you want to own a piece of them all?
Most certainly not. My investment returns since the late 90s are very
substantial and there are many others who have done much better.

Maybe you'll be lucky enough to have a boat to live on when the next
dump takes you to naught.


Anyone who goes to naught in a crash is asleep at the wheel, and more
than likely, poorly invested prior.


Wayne.B March 3rd 11 02:06 AM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:20:54 -0800, jps wrote:

I look at Wall Street like Jai Alai, You are never really sure what is
going on and you don't really understand the rules but if you can bet
with the smart money you can win.


That may be true but smart one day can be idiotic the next.

Lehman is out of busines. The game is rigged and Goldman has won, but
that doesn't mean that your Goldman broker is anymore on the inside or
working in your interests. They sold **** to their best customers in
hopes of keeping their bonus checks coming.


If you think Goldman is a smart player, and they are, why not buy part
of the company?

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=GS&t=my

You could have almost tripled your money in 10 years with buy and
hold, much more if you'd traded around the dips.

On the left coast you've got Wells Fargo. They run a pretty good
operation also:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=WFC+Basic+Chart&t=my


TopBassDog March 3rd 11 04:47 AM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Mar 2, 1:38*pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 08:41:00 -0500, Wayne.B



wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:29:11 -0800, jps wrote:


As was mentioned earlier in this thread, reserves are going up at the
same time price is going up. *That's not supply and demand.


Of course it is. * The reserves are created by people buying in
advance of actual need in expectation that supplies may be tighter at
a later date and/or prices higher. * *There is no big tank labeled
reserves. *It is the sum total of inventory on hand.


That's a bunch of crap. *Those markets are manipulated as are the
stock prices you hold so dear. *Let's see how much you like 'em when
they take the next dump.


Let's see if I understand this. * When asset prices are moving in a
direction that is favorable to you, it's because you are a shrewd
investor and money manager. * When values move in an unfavorable
direction it is because you are being manipulated?


Thanks, think I've got it now.


You must be projecting or you're putting words in my mouth. *


He must be projecting, JPS. Because he can't stuff words in your
mouth. It's already crammed full from some other guy.


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