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Tim February 27th 11 09:02 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
$3.38 in my local but from $3.05 a week ago.

I wonder if this summer if the "talk" will produce between 4 and 5 per
gallon. Sux for a river cruise, but We're still planning on going
anyhow.

lil abner February 27th 11 11:02 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On 2/27/2011 4:02 PM, Tim wrote:
$3.38 in my local but from $3.05 a week ago.

I wonder if this summer if the "talk" will produce between 4 and 5 per
gallon. Sux for a river cruise, but We're still planning on going
anyhow.

Washington says there was no inflation.
They have all the facts and politicians.

jps February 27th 11 11:16 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:02:29 -0500, Lil Abner wrote:

On 2/27/2011 4:02 PM, Tim wrote:
$3.38 in my local but from $3.05 a week ago.

I wonder if this summer if the "talk" will produce between 4 and 5 per
gallon. Sux for a river cruise, but We're still planning on going
anyhow.


Washington says there was no inflation.
They have all the facts and politicians.


You might consider that big oil has us bent over a barrel with a gas
spigot shoved up our collective arses, and they're going to take
advantage of it.

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Tim February 27th 11 11:19 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Feb 27, 5:02*pm, Lil Abner wrote:
On 2/27/2011 4:02 PM, Tim wrote: $3.38 in my local but from $3.05 a week ago.

I wonder if this summer if the "talk" will produce between 4 and 5 per
gallon. *Sux for a river cruise, but We're still planning on going
anyhow.


Washington says there was no inflation.
They have all the facts and politicians.


inflation goes with it. higher transportation and fuel= higher
everything else.

BAR[_2_] February 28th 11 12:06 AM

Gas getting higher.
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:02:29 -0500, Lil Abner wrote:

On 2/27/2011 4:02 PM, Tim wrote:
$3.38 in my local but from $3.05 a week ago.

I wonder if this summer if the "talk" will produce between 4 and 5 per
gallon. Sux for a river cruise, but We're still planning on going
anyhow.


Washington says there was no inflation.
They have all the facts and politicians.


You might consider that big oil has us bent over a barrel with a gas
spigot shoved up our collective arses, and they're going to take
advantage of it.

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.



Did you just learn that?

Wayne.B February 28th 11 12:50 AM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, jps wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.


Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.


[email protected] February 28th 11 02:10 AM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, jps wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.


Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.


It's also very satisfying to be a stakeholder in a gov't that does
something for people.

Tim February 28th 11 02:18 AM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Feb 27, 6:50*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, jps wrote:
Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.


Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. *On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? * Become a stockholder. * It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business. *


Yes it is. very satisfying. i don't have much sprawled out, but what
i have isn't bad.

better than money markets

Wayne.B February 28th 11 03:01 AM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:10:46 -0800, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, jps wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.


Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.


It's also very satisfying to be a stakeholder in a gov't that does
something for people.


Government should be the service provider of last resort for things
that no one else can do. Anything else is socialism.


Harryk February 28th 11 03:05 AM

Gas getting higher.
 
On 2/27/11 10:01 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:10:46 -0800, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.


It's also very satisfying to be a stakeholder in a gov't that does
something for people.


Government should be the service provider of last resort for things
that no one else can do. Anything else is socialism.


snerk


Corporatism uber alles.


*e#c February 28th 11 03:07 AM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Feb 27, 4:02*pm, Tim wrote:
$3.38 in my local but from $3.05 a week ago.

I wonder if this summer if the "talk" will produce between 4 and 5 per
gallon. *Sux for a river cruise, but We're still planning on going
anyhow.


We're already 4.50 a gallon....consider yourself lucky.

[email protected] February 28th 11 04:01 AM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 22:01:01 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:10:46 -0800, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, jps wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.


It's also very satisfying to be a stakeholder in a gov't that does
something for people.


Government should be the service provider of last resort for things
that no one else can do. Anything else is socialism.


For military, homeland security, police, fire, environmental
regulation, environmental disasters, mentally ill, poor people,
criminals.... All those things too?

Wayne.B February 28th 11 04:28 AM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:01:34 -0800, wrote:

Government should be the service provider of last resort for things
that no one else can do. Anything else is socialism.


For military, homeland security, police, fire, environmental
regulation, environmental disasters, mentally ill, poor people,
criminals.... All those things too?


You're suggesting that government should supply us with poor, mentally
ill criminals? Someone else seems to be doing a good job of that
already.


Wayne.B February 28th 11 04:39 AM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:28:03 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:01:34 -0800, wrote:

Government should be the service provider of last resort for things
that no one else can do. Anything else is socialism.


For military, homeland security, police, fire, environmental
regulation, environmental disasters, mentally ill, poor people,
criminals.... All those things too?


You're suggesting that government should supply us with poor, mentally
ill criminals? Someone else seems to be doing a good job of that
already.


And, I forgot to add, we should find that woman and stop her. :-)


[email protected] February 28th 11 04:47 AM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:39:12 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:28:03 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:01:34 -0800, wrote:

Government should be the service provider of last resort for things
that no one else can do. Anything else is socialism.

For military, homeland security, police, fire, environmental
regulation, environmental disasters, mentally ill, poor people,
criminals.... All those things too?


You're suggesting that government should supply us with poor, mentally
ill criminals? Someone else seems to be doing a good job of that
already.


And, I forgot to add, we should find that woman and stop her. :-)


I think you're suggesting it. :-)

jps February 28th 11 05:24 AM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, jps wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.


Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.


I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.

jps February 28th 11 05:26 AM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:28:03 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:01:34 -0800, wrote:

Government should be the service provider of last resort for things
that no one else can do. Anything else is socialism.


For military, homeland security, police, fire, environmental
regulation, environmental disasters, mentally ill, poor people,
criminals.... All those things too?


You're suggesting that government should supply us with poor, mentally
ill criminals? Someone else seems to be doing a good job of that
already.


You're deflecting. You know what she was saying.

TopBassDog February 28th 11 06:04 AM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Feb 27, 11:26*pm, jps wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:28:03 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:01:34 -0800, wrote:


Government should be the service provider of last resort for things
that no one else can do. * Anything else is socialism.


For military, homeland security, police, fire, environmental
regulation, environmental disasters, mentally ill, poor people,
criminals.... All those things too?


You're suggesting that government should supply us with poor, mentally
ill criminals? *Someone else seems to be doing a good job of that
already.


You're deflecting. *You know what she was saying.


He is playing her own game and to his misfortune, he is forced to
stoop very low to match wits with her.

[email protected] February 28th 11 06:15 AM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:26:33 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:28:03 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:01:34 -0800, wrote:

Government should be the service provider of last resort for things
that no one else can do. Anything else is socialism.

For military, homeland security, police, fire, environmental
regulation, environmental disasters, mentally ill, poor people,
criminals.... All those things too?


You're suggesting that government should supply us with poor, mentally
ill criminals? Someone else seems to be doing a good job of that
already.


You're deflecting. You know what she was saying.


Of course he knows... he just doesn't want to embarrass himself any
further, so he made a funny.

Wayne.B February 28th 11 10:44 AM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:24:46 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, jps wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.


Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.


I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.


Any time oil/gas prices go up, it becomes very popular to think that
there is some vast conspiracy behind it. Who's fault is it when
prices go the other way as they sometimes do? There are vast numbers
of middle men involved in the production, distribution, refining and
transportation of oil. If they think prices are going up in the near
future because of a posible shortage, they do the same thing that you
and I would do, and try to buy more right now. The only collusion
involved is supply and demand.


Harryk February 28th 11 10:48 AM

Gas getting higher.
 
On 2/28/11 5:44 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:24:46 -0800, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.


I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.


Any time oil/gas prices go up, it becomes very popular to think that
there is some vast conspiracy behind it. Who's fault is it when
prices go the other way as they sometimes do? There are vast numbers
of middle men involved in the production, distribution, refining and
transportation of oil. If they think prices are going up in the near
future because of a posible shortage, they do the same thing that you
and I would do, and try to buy more right now.


The only collusion
involved is supply and demand.


That last sentence is hilarious, Wayne.

TopBassDog February 28th 11 12:28 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Feb 27, 5:02*pm, Lil Abner wrote:
On 2/27/2011 4:02 PM, Tim wrote: $3.38 in my local but from $3.05 a week ago.

I wonder if this summer if the "talk" will produce between 4 and 5 per
gallon. *Sux for a river cruise, but We're still planning on going
anyhow.


Washington says there was no inflation.
They have all the facts and politicians.


That describes D'Plumes kind of crowd!

BAR[_2_] February 28th 11 12:45 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, jps wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.


Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.


I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.


Have you reald Welch's book.

Harryk February 28th 11 12:52 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On 2/28/11 7:45 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.


I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.


Have you reald Welch's book.



Indeed, I've read Welch's The Politician, and also the Bluebook of the
John Birch Society. My mother got them for me as gag gifts while in high
school and after I was graduated. That right-wing lunatic, Koch, is a
prominent Bircher. My mom, a minor Republican functionary in New Haven,
said, "you'll get a laugh out of *this* craziness."

Oh, wait, you probably are referring to a different Welch.


BAR[_2_] February 28th 11 01:03 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 2/28/11 7:45 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.

I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.


Have you reald Welch's book.



Indeed, I've read Welch's The Politician, and also the Bluebook of the
John Birch Society. My mother got them for me as gag gifts while in high
school and after I was graduated. That right-wing lunatic, Koch, is a
prominent Bircher. My mom, a minor Republican functionary in New Haven,
said, "you'll get a laugh out of *this* craziness."

Oh, wait, you probably are referring to a different Welch.


You have a problem with context.


Harryk February 28th 11 01:06 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On 2/28/11 8:03 AM, BAR wrote:
In article9o6dnSeZUqXmB_bQnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 2/28/11 7:45 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.

I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.

Have you reald Welch's book.



Indeed, I've read Welch's The Politician, and also the Bluebook of the
John Birch Society. My mother got them for me as gag gifts while in high
school and after I was graduated. That right-wing lunatic, Koch, is a
prominent Bircher. My mom, a minor Republican functionary in New Haven,
said, "you'll get a laugh out of *this* craziness."

Oh, wait, you probably are referring to a different Welch.


You have a problem with context.


I do? How so? You are a right-wing extremist. So was the Welch to whom I
referred. Seems a reasonable conclusion to me.


Wayne.B February 28th 11 02:42 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:48:22 -0500, Harryk
wrote:

The only collusion
involved is supply and demand.


That last sentence is hilarious, Wayne.


Simple things amuse simple people.


Harryk February 28th 11 02:50 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On 2/28/11 9:42 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:48:22 -0500,
wrote:

The only collusion
involved is supply and demand.


That last sentence is hilarious, Wayne.


Simple things amuse simple people.


That's what I thought about your "anything else is socialism" bull****.


HenryK[_2_] February 28th 11 03:00 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On 2/28/2011 7:52 AM, Harryk wrote:


Indeed, I've read Welch's The Politician, and also the Bluebook of the
John Birch Society. My mother got them for me as gag gifts while in
high school and after I was graduated. That right-wing lunatic, Koch,
is a prominent Bircher. My mom, a minor Republican functionary in New
Haven, said, "you'll get a laugh out of *this* craziness."

Oh, wait, you probably are referring to a different Welch.

She was a functionary. You must be so proud of her. Someday you might
become a functionary.

jps February 28th 11 05:01 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 07:52:11 -0500, Harryk
wrote:

On 2/28/11 7:45 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.

I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.


Have you reald Welch's book.



Indeed, I've read Welch's The Politician, and also the Bluebook of the
John Birch Society. My mother got them for me as gag gifts while in high
school and after I was graduated. That right-wing lunatic, Koch, is a
prominent Bircher. My mom, a minor Republican functionary in New Haven,
said, "you'll get a laugh out of *this* craziness."

Oh, wait, you probably are referring to a different Welch.


Damn, Bertie the Bircher. Probably worships Pat Buchannan.

jps February 28th 11 05:03 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:44:56 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:24:46 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, jps wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.


I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.


Any time oil/gas prices go up, it becomes very popular to think that
there is some vast conspiracy behind it. Who's fault is it when
prices go the other way as they sometimes do? There are vast numbers
of middle men involved in the production, distribution, refining and
transportation of oil. If they think prices are going up in the near
future because of a posible shortage, they do the same thing that you
and I would do, and try to buy more right now. The only collusion
involved is supply and demand.


As was mentioned earlier in this thread, reserves are going up at the
same time price is going up. That's not supply and demand.

Harryk February 28th 11 05:04 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On 2/28/11 12:01 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 07:52:11 -0500,
wrote:

On 2/28/11 7:45 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.

I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.

Have you reald Welch's book.



Indeed, I've read Welch's The Politician, and also the Bluebook of the
John Birch Society. My mother got them for me as gag gifts while in high
school and after I was graduated. That right-wing lunatic, Koch, is a
prominent Bircher. My mom, a minor Republican functionary in New Haven,
said, "you'll get a laugh out of *this* craziness."

Oh, wait, you probably are referring to a different Welch.


Damn, Bertie the Bircher. Probably worships Pat Buchannan.



We all know that the Commies fluoridate our water in order to diminish
our precious bodily fluids.

Harryk February 28th 11 05:05 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On 2/28/11 12:03 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:44:56 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:24:46 -0800, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.

I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.


Any time oil/gas prices go up, it becomes very popular to think that
there is some vast conspiracy behind it. Who's fault is it when
prices go the other way as they sometimes do? There are vast numbers
of middle men involved in the production, distribution, refining and
transportation of oil. If they think prices are going up in the near
future because of a posible shortage, they do the same thing that you
and I would do, and try to buy more right now. The only collusion
involved is supply and demand.


As was mentioned earlier in this thread, reserves are going up at the
same time price is going up. That's not supply and demand.



It's corporate collusion.

HenryK[_2_] February 28th 11 05:46 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On 2/28/2011 12:03 PM, jps wrote:

involved is supply and demand.
As was mentioned earlier in this thread, reserves are going up at the
same time price is going up. That's not supply and demand.

They got you by the gonads. You can't do anything about it. Oh wait.
there is something you can do. Take the bus.

[email protected] February 28th 11 07:12 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:44:56 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:24:46 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, jps wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.


I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.


Any time oil/gas prices go up, it becomes very popular to think that
there is some vast conspiracy behind it. Who's fault is it when
prices go the other way as they sometimes do? There are vast numbers
of middle men involved in the production, distribution, refining and
transportation of oil. If they think prices are going up in the near
future because of a posible shortage, they do the same thing that you
and I would do, and try to buy more right now. The only collusion
involved is supply and demand.


Actually, it's pretty obvious there is a conspiracy. It isn't about
fixing prices though. It's about corps not giving a crap about this
country or its people. They attempt to rig the electoral process and
usually succeed.

Wayne.B February 28th 11 08:12 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 09:03:59 -0800, jps wrote:

Any time oil/gas prices go up, it becomes very popular to think that
there is some vast conspiracy behind it. Who's fault is it when
prices go the other way as they sometimes do? There are vast numbers
of middle men involved in the production, distribution, refining and
transportation of oil. If they think prices are going up in the near
future because of a posible shortage, they do the same thing that you
and I would do, and try to buy more right now. The only collusion
involved is supply and demand.


As was mentioned earlier in this thread, reserves are going up at the
same time price is going up. That's not supply and demand.


Of course it is. The reserves are created by people buying in
advance of actual need in expectation that supplies may be tighter at
a later date and/or prices higher. There is no big tank labeled
reserves. It is the sum total of inventory on hand.


Wayne.B February 28th 11 08:16 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:12:34 -0800, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:44:56 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:24:46 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, jps wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.

I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.


Any time oil/gas prices go up, it becomes very popular to think that
there is some vast conspiracy behind it. Who's fault is it when
prices go the other way as they sometimes do? There are vast numbers
of middle men involved in the production, distribution, refining and
transportation of oil. If they think prices are going up in the near
future because of a posible shortage, they do the same thing that you
and I would do, and try to buy more right now. The only collusion
involved is supply and demand.


Actually, it's pretty obvious there is a conspiracy. It isn't about
fixing prices though. It's about corps not giving a crap about this
country or its people. They attempt to rig the electoral process and
usually succeed.


You and Harry are too much with this corporate conspiracy nonsense.
Perhaps you can both go to Venezuela and help Chavez nationalize their
remaining industries.


HenryK[_2_] February 28th 11 08:18 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On 2/28/2011 2:12 PM, wrote:

volved is supply and demand.
Actually, it's pretty obvious there is a conspiracy. It isn't about
fixing prices though. It's about corps not giving a crap about this
country or its people. They attempt to rig the electoral process and
usually succeed.

Yup you're right. Obama is one of them. After 2 years, it's pretty obvious.

[email protected] February 28th 11 08:35 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:16:04 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:12:34 -0800, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:44:56 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:24:46 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, jps wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.

I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.

Any time oil/gas prices go up, it becomes very popular to think that
there is some vast conspiracy behind it. Who's fault is it when
prices go the other way as they sometimes do? There are vast numbers
of middle men involved in the production, distribution, refining and
transportation of oil. If they think prices are going up in the near
future because of a posible shortage, they do the same thing that you
and I would do, and try to buy more right now. The only collusion
involved is supply and demand.


Actually, it's pretty obvious there is a conspiracy. It isn't about
fixing prices though. It's about corps not giving a crap about this
country or its people. They attempt to rig the electoral process and
usually succeed.


You and Harry are too much with this corporate conspiracy nonsense.
Perhaps you can both go to Venezuela and help Chavez nationalize their
remaining industries.


So you believe that corps have the best interest of the US in mind? I
thought they had the best interest of their shareholders and CEOs in
mind first.

Nobody is talking about nationalizing companies, but you'd rather
deflect any discussion about reasonable regulation.

Harryk February 28th 11 09:54 PM

Gas getting higher.
 
On 2/28/11 3:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:16:04 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:12:34 -0800,
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:44:56 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:24:46 -0800, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:50:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:16:48 -0800, wrote:

Corporations are beholden to their stockholders, not the customer.

Any business is a balancing act between customers, stockholders
(owners), and employees. On top of that, throw in the government,
general public, media and financial services just for good measure.

My advice? Become a stockholder. It's very satisfying to be a
stakeholder in a well run business.

I am a large stakeholder in my own corporation, and it's run very
efficiently. But it's not in the oil industry where competitors work
in collusion. I have competitors in what's called a free market.

Any time oil/gas prices go up, it becomes very popular to think that
there is some vast conspiracy behind it. Who's fault is it when
prices go the other way as they sometimes do? There are vast numbers
of middle men involved in the production, distribution, refining and
transportation of oil. If they think prices are going up in the near
future because of a posible shortage, they do the same thing that you
and I would do, and try to buy more right now. The only collusion
involved is supply and demand.

Actually, it's pretty obvious there is a conspiracy. It isn't about
fixing prices though. It's about corps not giving a crap about this
country or its people. They attempt to rig the electoral process and
usually succeed.


You and Harry are too much with this corporate conspiracy nonsense.
Perhaps you can both go to Venezuela and help Chavez nationalize their
remaining industries.


So you believe that corps have the best interest of the US in mind? I
thought they had the best interest of their shareholders and CEOs in
mind first.

Nobody is talking about nationalizing companies, but you'd rather
deflect any discussion about reasonable regulation.



It's corporations uber alles, nothing less. Wayne wants us to think
corporations don't talk to each other because there are virtually
unenforced regulations against doing so. He obviously spent his working
life working for a large corporation and is rationalizing it.




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