On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 06:30:35 -0500, Harryk
wrote:

Doing nothing is better than doing the wrong thing. Ethanol still has
not proved it's value.


There are other agricultural alternatives to corn ethanol. If we come up
with something, I'd like it owned by the people instead of by big,
multi-national corporations. We need to move away from "corporate uber
alles."

You should buy some stock in some of those big, multi-national
corporations. It turns out that they are all owned by the people,
people just like us.

On 2/2/11 8:06 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 06:30:35 -0500,
wrote:

Doing nothing is better than doing the wrong thing. Ethanol still has
not proved it's value.


There are other agricultural alternatives to corn ethanol. If we come up
with something, I'd like it owned by the people instead of by big,
multi-national corporations. We need to move away from "corporate uber
alles."

You should buy some stock in some of those big, multi-national
corporations. It turns out that they are all owned by the people,
people just like us.



Right...small individual shareholders have the ability to control big,
multi-national corporations, and Hollywood starlets call me all the time
for dates.

Big, multi-national corporations...that's why everything is working out
so well. I prefer public ownership of the public's resources, the
public's highways, the public's schools, the public's hospitals, the
public's airports. et cetera.

When "the system" favors only the rich, when the middle and lower income
classes are regressing, when able-bodied, willing workers cannot find
decent, family supporting jobs, all because of the greed at the top,
it's time for serious, heavy duty change.

In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 2/2/11 8:06 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 06:30:35 -0500,
wrote:

Doing nothing is better than doing the wrong thing. Ethanol still has
not proved it's value.


There are other agricultural alternatives to corn ethanol. If we come up
with something, I'd like it owned by the people instead of by big,
multi-national corporations. We need to move away from "corporate uber
alles."

You should buy some stock in some of those big, multi-national
corporations. It turns out that they are all owned by the people,
people just like us.



Right...small individual shareholders have the ability to control big,
multi-national corporations, and Hollywood starlets call me all the time
for dates.

Big, multi-national corporations...that's why everything is working out
so well. I prefer public ownership of the public's resources, the
public's highways, the public's schools, the public's hospitals, the
public's airports. et cetera.

When "the system" favors only the rich, when the middle and lower income
classes are regressing, when able-bodied, willing workers cannot find
decent, family supporting jobs, all because of the greed at the top,
it's time for serious, heavy duty change.

You are an idiot.

On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 08:06:28 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 06:30:35 -0500, Harryk
wrote:

Doing nothing is better than doing the wrong thing. Ethanol still has
not proved it's value.


There are other agricultural alternatives to corn ethanol. If we come up
with something, I'd like it owned by the people instead of by big,
multi-national corporations. We need to move away from "corporate uber
alles."

You should buy some stock in some of those big, multi-national
corporations. It turns out that they are all owned by the people,
people just like us.

So, you think the small investor in a multinational has some actual
say in how the company is run and the ethics involved? It's only
recently that CEO pay has been on the table as needing non-binding
approval of the stockholders!

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 08:06:28 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 06:30:35 -0500, Harryk
wrote:

Doing nothing is better than doing the wrong thing. Ethanol still has
not proved it's value.


There are other agricultural alternatives to corn ethanol. If we come up
with something, I'd like it owned by the people instead of by big,
multi-national corporations. We need to move away from "corporate uber
alles."

You should buy some stock in some of those big, multi-national
corporations. It turns out that they are all owned by the people,
people just like us.

So, you think the small investor in a multinational has some actual
say in how the company is run and the ethics involved? It's only
recently that CEO pay has been on the table as needing non-binding
approval of the stockholders!

Yes. If enough choose not to keep stock with that company, then they
will lose in the end.

On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:38:39 -0800, wrote:

So, you think the small investor in a multinational has some actual
say in how the company is run and the ethics involved? It's only
recently that CEO pay has been on the table as needing non-binding
approval of the stockholders!

It doesn't really matter how much or how little say you have. If the
company is doing well, you share in the gains just like all of the
other owners. If it's not doing well you vote with your telephone and
sell the stock. Essentially you just fired the management.

On 2/2/11 5:12 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:38:39 -0800, wrote:

So, you think the small investor in a multinational has some actual
say in how the company is run and the ethics involved? It's only
recently that CEO pay has been on the table as needing non-binding
approval of the stockholders!

It doesn't really matter how much or how little say you have. If the
company is doing well, you share in the gains just like all of the
other owners. If it's not doing well you vote with your telephone and
sell the stock. Essentially you just fired the management.



Doing well only refers to one aspect of a corporation's performance,
typically. The problem is that corporations have become the actual
government in many countries, such as this one, and corporate actions
are destroying the middle class.

In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 2/2/11 5:12 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:38:39 -0800, wrote:

So, you think the small investor in a multinational has some actual
say in how the company is run and the ethics involved? It's only
recently that CEO pay has been on the table as needing non-binding
approval of the stockholders!

It doesn't really matter how much or how little say you have. If the
company is doing well, you share in the gains just like all of the
other owners. If it's not doing well you vote with your telephone and
sell the stock. Essentially you just fired the management.



Doing well only refers to one aspect of a corporation's performance,
typically. The problem is that corporations have become the actual
government in many countries, such as this one, and corporate actions
are destroying the middle class.

Businesses/corporations have always run the world. You really do need to
brush up on some history.

On 2/2/11 7:41 PM, BAR wrote:
In articleqaudnU5a7qnpStTQnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 2/2/11 5:12 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:38:39 -0800, wrote:

So, you think the small investor in a multinational has some actual
say in how the company is run and the ethics involved? It's only
recently that CEO pay has been on the table as needing non-binding
approval of the stockholders!

It doesn't really matter how much or how little say you have. If the
company is doing well, you share in the gains just like all of the
other owners. If it's not doing well you vote with your telephone and
sell the stock. Essentially you just fired the management.



Doing well only refers to one aspect of a corporation's performance,
typically. The problem is that corporations have become the actual
government in many countries, such as this one, and corporate actions
are destroying the middle class.

Businesses/corporations have always run the world. You really do need to
brush up on some history.




Slavery used to be "legal" in this country until we made it illegal.

We can change the negative impacts corporations have on society.

You're a real flatlander, eh?

In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
Doing well only refers to one aspect of a corporation's performance,
typically. The problem is that corporations have become the actual
government in many countries, such as this one, and corporate actions
are destroying the middle class.

Businesses/corporations have always run the world. You really do need to
brush up on some history.




Slavery used to be "legal" in this country until we made it illegal.

Slavery is still practiced around the world. Why am I not surprised that
you are not concerned with the condition of man outside the USA?

We can change the negative impacts corporations have on society.

Why would we want to devolve to an agrarian society? Why do you want to
return to the days of 18th century?

You're a real flatlander, eh?

You are an idiot.