In article ,
says...

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:45:33 -0500, Harryk
wrote:

On 1/31/11 2:42 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Obamas EPA has ruled that refiners can be forced to produce 15%
ethanol fuel. Of course, this will destroy many existing engines,
Just try to find ethanol free fuel. Even at marinas it is not often
available. Not only will this destroy engines, it will kill people
whose boat fuel systems leak due to the ethanol, another case of WTF
for Obama.


Oh, puh-lease.

He's just whacked out because Obama is black.

Why do you keep bringing up race?

On 1/31/11 4:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:45:33 -0500,
wrote:

On 1/31/11 2:42 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Obamas EPA has ruled that refiners can be forced to produce 15%
ethanol fuel. Of course, this will destroy many existing engines,
Just try to find ethanol free fuel. Even at marinas it is not often
available. Not only will this destroy engines, it will kill people
whose boat fuel systems leak due to the ethanol, another case of WTF
for Obama.


Oh, puh-lease.


It is true that most manufacturers limit ethanol to 10% if you like
your warranty.


If the amount goes to 15%, the manufacturers will make the change, too.
They cannot demand you use gasoline that isn't generally available for
contemporary engines.

On 1/31/2011 4:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:45:33 -0500,
wrote:

On 1/31/11 2:42 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Obamas EPA has ruled that refiners can be forced to produce 15%
ethanol fuel. Of course, this will destroy many existing engines,
Just try to find ethanol free fuel. Even at marinas it is not often
available. Not only will this destroy engines, it will kill people
whose boat fuel systems leak due to the ethanol, another case of WTF
for Obama.


Oh, puh-lease.


It is true that most manufacturers limit ethanol to 10% if you like
your warranty.
The Saturn had first one injector, then another, then they replaced the
last two and yanked the fuel tank and entire system. They didn't offer a
reason at the time but later a mechanic said it was ethanol, which was
just getting into wide use at the time.
They were getting ready to replace the injectors etc for a second time
when it was replaced.
Some Snot nose know it all's that tout the ethanol industry line
really are funny.

In article , LilAbner
says...

On 1/31/2011 4:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:45:33 -0500,
wrote:

On 1/31/11 2:42 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Obamas EPA has ruled that refiners can be forced to produce 15%
ethanol fuel. Of course, this will destroy many existing engines,
Just try to find ethanol free fuel. Even at marinas it is not often
available. Not only will this destroy engines, it will kill people
whose boat fuel systems leak due to the ethanol, another case of WTF
for Obama.


Oh, puh-lease.


It is true that most manufacturers limit ethanol to 10% if you like
your warranty.
The Saturn had first one injector, then another, then they replaced the
last two and yanked the fuel tank and entire system. They didn't offer a
reason at the time but later a mechanic said it was ethanol, which was
just getting into wide use at the time.
They were getting ready to replace the injectors etc for a second time
when it was replaced.
Some Snot nose know it all's that tout the ethanol industry line
really are funny.

No, no. Harry says that ethanol is fine, so it's fine. End of story.

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:45:33 -0500, Harryk
wrote:

On 1/31/11 2:42 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Obamas EPA has ruled that refiners can be forced to produce 15%
ethanol fuel. Of course, this will destroy many existing engines,
Just try to find ethanol free fuel. Even at marinas it is not often
available. Not only will this destroy engines, it will kill people
whose boat fuel systems leak due to the ethanol, another case of WTF
for Obama.


Oh, puh-lease.


It is true that most manufacturers limit ethanol to 10% if you like
your warranty.

Well, because Harry is Harry, the manufacturers of Harry's engines gave
him special warranties.

On Jan 31, 1:42*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Obamas EPA has ruled that refiners can be forced to produce 15%
ethanol fuel. *Of course, this will destroy many existing engines,
Just try to find ethanol free fuel. *Even at marinas it is not often
available. *Not only will this destroy engines, it will kill people
whose boat fuel systems leak due to the ethanol, another case of WTF
for Obama.

Obama or not, I started a thread about this sometime ago and this does
concern me about the use of the new 15% blend ethanol in two cycle
engines. I have a sea horse 85 hp v-4 and a 115 hp v-4 as a spare. for
my pontoon boat, but that's beside the point at this venture. What I'm
concerned about is there are other uses for 2 cycle engines and in the
winter I use a variety of chainsaws. My local stations still sell the
straight petroleum and though watered down ( 87 octane) they do well
with the oil/fuel mixture. But even the best blends of 2 cycle oil
don't mix well with the ethanol, thus you can ruin a chainsaw or weed-
eater or older outboard rather quickly.

If the 15% blend does become standard, I'm not sure how the 2 stroke
companies will be dealing with it, but I guess we'll find out. the 4
cycle marine engines shouldn't have any problem with it though.

In article e3d53c58-65b4-46df-b3f6-5f93c1f9e291
@m16g2000prc.googlegroups.com, says...

Obamas EPA has ruled that refiners can be forced to produce 15%
ethanol fuel. Of course, this will destroy many existing engines,
Just try to find ethanol free fuel. Even at marinas it is not often
available. Not only will this destroy engines, it will kill people
whose boat fuel systems leak due to the ethanol, another case of WTF
for Obama.

Just what we need turning food into fuel. If you think Egypt was about
democracy you are wrong it was about food prices.

On 2/1/11 7:09 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlee3d53c58-65b4-46df-b3f6-5f93c1f9e291
@m16g2000prc.googlegroups.com, says...

Obamas EPA has ruled that refiners can be forced to produce 15%
ethanol fuel. Of course, this will destroy many existing engines,
Just try to find ethanol free fuel. Even at marinas it is not often
available. Not only will this destroy engines, it will kill people
whose boat fuel systems leak due to the ethanol, another case of WTF
for Obama.

Just what we need turning food into fuel. If you think Egypt was about
democracy you are wrong it was about food prices.


Read up on cellulosic ethanol, **** for brains.

On 2/1/11 12:09 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 07:21:36 -0500,
wrote:

On 2/1/11 7:09 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlee3d53c58-65b4-46df-b3f6-5f93c1f9e291
@m16g2000prc.googlegroups.com, says...

Obamas EPA has ruled that refiners can be forced to produce 15%
ethanol fuel. Of course, this will destroy many existing engines,
Just try to find ethanol free fuel. Even at marinas it is not often
available. Not only will this destroy engines, it will kill people
whose boat fuel systems leak due to the ethanol, another case of WTF
for Obama.

Just what we need turning food into fuel. If you think Egypt was about
democracy you are wrong it was about food prices.


Read up on cellulosic ethanol,

Unfortunately virtually all of the ethanol made here comes from corn.


That doesn't mean we're going to be forever stupid.

Harryk wrote:
On 2/1/11 12:09 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 07:21:36 -0500,
wrote:

On 2/1/11 7:09 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlee3d53c58-65b4-46df-b3f6-5f93c1f9e291
@m16g2000prc.googlegroups.com, says...

Obamas EPA has ruled that refiners can be forced to produce 15%
ethanol fuel. Of course, this will destroy many existing engines,
Just try to find ethanol free fuel. Even at marinas it is not often
available. Not only will this destroy engines, it will kill people
whose boat fuel systems leak due to the ethanol, another case of WTF
for Obama.

Just what we need turning food into fuel. If you think Egypt was about
democracy you are wrong it was about food prices.


Read up on cellulosic ethanol,

Unfortunately virtually all of the ethanol made here comes from corn.


That doesn't mean we're going to be forever stupid.
You are. That's obvious to a blind man.