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OT- Absolutely amazing radio controlled B-29
On Jan 18, 6:08*am, "Jack." wrote:
On Jan 17, 9:21*pm, Tim wrote: On Jan 17, 8:12*am, "Jack." wrote: On Jan 16, 5:47*pm, Tim wrote: A B29 model powered by 4 chainsaw engines... Complete with a mid-air launch of an X1 rocket! * Here's where a lot of work pays off. http://users.skynet.be/fa926657/files/B29.wmv I've seen that thing fly twice, and watched him crash it once. *After the X1 landed, he spun the B29 down from way up high, where he'd been circling while the X1 did it's thing. *Then he flew down the runway doing slow rolls, and during one of the rolls the outer third of one of the wings folded up. *That was several years ago, and I understand it's been crashed and rebuilt more than once since. The original B29 was built by a guy who didn't get a chance to finish it before he passed away. *The family gave it to Mac Hodges, and he finished it and began flying it at RC events. BTW... those aren't exactly "chainsaw" motors. *They are purpose-built for RC aircraft use. *The current B29 has four DA-100 motors that are twin cylinder, 100cc and cost $1000 each. *Yes, with all the motors, radio gear, and airframe it's probably $6000 - 7000 in the air. *Just the props can be over $100 each. Here's the motor used: *http://www.desertaircraft.com/engine...hp?Page=DA-100 I passed on the info as I recieved it. Thanks for the correction. It was not meant in any mean-spirited way. * Deffinately understood. How would you know unless you were into R/C? *Besides, many R/C planes acrually *do* use converted chainsaw motors... they just aren't as light and powerful as something like the DA motor, but are a whole lot cheaper! *And gas&oil mix is far less expensive than the glow fuel that the traditional R/C motors use. no I haven't been into the model air plane stuff since I was a kid. Some where around either my brothers place or here, we've got a box of 04 cox and wen-mac engines left over for destroyed string fliers. we never could afford to get into RC |
OT- Absolutely amazing radio controlled B-29
On 1/18/11 8:38 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 18, 6:08 am, wrote: On Jan 17, 9:21 pm, wrote: On Jan 17, 8:12 am, wrote: On Jan 16, 5:47 pm, wrote: A B29 model powered by 4 chainsaw engines... Complete with a mid-air launch of an X1 rocket! Here's where a lot of work pays off. http://users.skynet.be/fa926657/files/B29.wmv I've seen that thing fly twice, and watched him crash it once. After the X1 landed, he spun the B29 down from way up high, where he'd been circling while the X1 did it's thing. Then he flew down the runway doing slow rolls, and during one of the rolls the outer third of one of the wings folded up. That was several years ago, and I understand it's been crashed and rebuilt more than once since. The original B29 was built by a guy who didn't get a chance to finish it before he passed away. The family gave it to Mac Hodges, and he finished it and began flying it at RC events. BTW... those aren't exactly "chainsaw" motors. They are purpose-built for RC aircraft use. The current B29 has four DA-100 motors that are twin cylinder, 100cc and cost $1000 each. Yes, with all the motors, radio gear, and airframe it's probably $6000 - 7000 in the air. Just the props can be over $100 each. Here's the motor used: http://www.desertaircraft.com/engine...hp?Page=DA-100 I passed on the info as I recieved it. Thanks for the correction. It was not meant in any mean-spirited way. Deffinately understood. How would you know unless you were into R/C? Besides, many R/C planes acrually *do* use converted chainsaw motors... they just aren't as light and powerful as something like the DA motor, but are a whole lot cheaper! And gas&oil mix is far less expensive than the glow fuel that the traditional R/C motors use. no I haven't been into the model air plane stuff since I was a kid. Some where around either my brothers place or here, we've got a box of 04 cox and wen-mac engines left over for destroyed string fliers. we never could afford to get into RC The one time I got my U-Control balsa and tissue model airplane in the air I got so dizzy I puked. This was when I was 12 or 13. Were there RC flying models in those days? I don't remember them. |
OT- Absolutely amazing radio controlled B-29
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 05:38:19 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Jan 18, 6:08*am, "Jack." wrote: On Jan 17, 9:21*pm, Tim wrote: On Jan 17, 8:12*am, "Jack." wrote: On Jan 16, 5:47*pm, Tim wrote: A B29 model powered by 4 chainsaw engines... Complete with a mid-air launch of an X1 rocket! * Here's where a lot of work pays off. http://users.skynet.be/fa926657/files/B29.wmv I've seen that thing fly twice, and watched him crash it once. *After the X1 landed, he spun the B29 down from way up high, where he'd been circling while the X1 did it's thing. *Then he flew down the runway doing slow rolls, and during one of the rolls the outer third of one of the wings folded up. *That was several years ago, and I understand it's been crashed and rebuilt more than once since. The original B29 was built by a guy who didn't get a chance to finish it before he passed away. *The family gave it to Mac Hodges, and he finished it and began flying it at RC events. BTW... those aren't exactly "chainsaw" motors. *They are purpose-built for RC aircraft use. *The current B29 has four DA-100 motors that are twin cylinder, 100cc and cost $1000 each. *Yes, with all the motors, radio gear, and airframe it's probably $6000 - 7000 in the air. *Just the props can be over $100 each. Here's the motor used: *http://www.desertaircraft.com/engine...hp?Page=DA-100 I passed on the info as I recieved it. Thanks for the correction. It was not meant in any mean-spirited way. * Deffinately understood. How would you know unless you were into R/C? *Besides, many R/C planes acrually *do* use converted chainsaw motors... they just aren't as light and powerful as something like the DA motor, but are a whole lot cheaper! *And gas&oil mix is far less expensive than the glow fuel that the traditional R/C motors use. no I haven't been into the model air plane stuff since I was a kid. Some where around either my brothers place or here, we've got a box of 04 cox and wen-mac engines left over for destroyed string fliers. we never could afford to get into RC I've thought about it, as I used to do a lot of u-control modelling. But a friend who is into it has had a rough time finding a place to fly around here. He's got to drive a long ways to find a place that allows RC flying. It used to be that almost all the military bases had an RC club. Don't know what happened to them. Nowadays, if it doesn't have a touch screen and show videos, the kids aren't much interested. I've got some n-gauge railroad stuff. Trying to get the grandkids interested. Nope. |
OT- Absolutely amazing radio controlled B-29
On Jan 18, 8:43*am, Harryk wrote:
On 1/18/11 8:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 18, 6:08 am, *wrote: On Jan 17, 9:21 pm, *wrote: On Jan 17, 8:12 am, *wrote: On Jan 16, 5:47 pm, *wrote: A B29 model powered by 4 chainsaw engines... Complete with a mid-air launch of an X1 rocket! * Here's where a lot of work pays off. http://users.skynet.be/fa926657/files/B29.wmv I've seen that thing fly twice, and watched him crash it once. *After the X1 landed, he spun the B29 down from way up high, where he'd been circling while the X1 did it's thing. *Then he flew down the runway doing slow rolls, and during one of the rolls the outer third of one of the wings folded up. *That was several years ago, and I understand it's been crashed and rebuilt more than once since. The original B29 was built by a guy who didn't get a chance to finish it before he passed away. *The family gave it to Mac Hodges, and he finished it and began flying it at RC events. BTW... those aren't exactly "chainsaw" motors. *They are purpose-built for RC aircraft use. *The current B29 has four DA-100 motors that are twin cylinder, 100cc and cost $1000 each. *Yes, with all the motors, radio gear, and airframe it's probably $6000 - 7000 in the air. *Just the props can be over $100 each. Here's the motor used: *http://www.desertaircraft.com/engine...hp?Page=DA-100 I passed on the info as I recieved it. Thanks for the correction. It was not meant in any mean-spirited way. Deffinately understood. How would you know unless you were into R/C? *Besides, many R/C planes acrually *do* use converted chainsaw motors... they just aren't as light and powerful as something like the DA motor, but are a whole lot cheaper! *And gas&oil mix is far less expensive than the glow fuel that the traditional R/C motors use. no I haven't been into the model air plane stuff since I was a kid. Some where around either my brothers place or here, we've got a box of 04 cox and wen-mac engines left over for destroyed string fliers. Don't through away those old motors. Some are collectable, although they aren't really worth much. we never could afford to get into RC The radio gear was expensive and finicky back then, but is amazingly cheap and bulletproof now. I was in the same boat as a kid. The one time I got my U-Control balsa and tissue model airplane in the air I got so dizzy I puked. This was when I was 12 or 13. Were there RC flying models in those days? I don't remember them. I flew a lot of U/C back in the day. I started with the little string line 0.049 Cox motor planes, and graduated up to stainless steel lines on 50" wingspan stunters with Fox and McCoy motors at just under 0.50 (yes, 1/2 cubic inch) motors. I still have a couple and fly them occasionally. The R/C guys just watch and shake their heads. :- There was R/C back in the timeframe I beleive you're talking about, but it was experimental and rare. Guys had to build their own transmitter and receiver equipment in the beginning, and the control was crude. It took the transistor becoming common and cheap in the '60s to have multi-channel, proportional control equipment, and it was very expensive. Now you can buy a nice 6 channel R/C transmitter and receiver with 4 control servos, rechargeable TX and RX batteries, and a charger for around $200. |
OT- Absolutely amazing radio controlled B-29
On Jan 18, 9:09*am, John H wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 05:38:19 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Jan 18, 6:08*am, "Jack." wrote: On Jan 17, 9:21*pm, Tim wrote: On Jan 17, 8:12*am, "Jack." wrote: On Jan 16, 5:47*pm, Tim wrote: A B29 model powered by 4 chainsaw engines... Complete with a mid-air launch of an X1 rocket! * Here's where a lot of work pays off. http://users.skynet.be/fa926657/files/B29.wmv I've seen that thing fly twice, and watched him crash it once. *After the X1 landed, he spun the B29 down from way up high, where he'd been circling while the X1 did it's thing. *Then he flew down the runway doing slow rolls, and during one of the rolls the outer third of one of the wings folded up. *That was several years ago, and I understand it's been crashed and rebuilt more than once since. The original B29 was built by a guy who didn't get a chance to finish it before he passed away. *The family gave it to Mac Hodges, and he finished it and began flying it at RC events. BTW... those aren't exactly "chainsaw" motors. *They are purpose-built for RC aircraft use. *The current B29 has four DA-100 motors that are twin cylinder, 100cc and cost $1000 each. *Yes, with all the motors, radio gear, and airframe it's probably $6000 - 7000 in the air. *Just the props can be over $100 each. Here's the motor used: *http://www.desertaircraft.com/engine...hp?Page=DA-100 I passed on the info as I recieved it. Thanks for the correction. It was not meant in any mean-spirited way. * Deffinately understood. How would you know unless you were into R/C? *Besides, many R/C planes acrually *do* use converted chainsaw motors... they just aren't as light and powerful as something like the DA motor, but are a whole lot cheaper! *And gas&oil mix is far less expensive than the glow fuel that the traditional R/C motors use. no I haven't been into the model air plane stuff since I was a kid. Some where around either my brothers place or here, we've got a box of 04 cox and wen-mac engines left over for destroyed string fliers. we never could afford to get into RC I've thought about it, as I used to do a lot of u-control modelling. But a friend who is into it has had a rough time finding a place to fly around here. He's got to drive a long ways to find a place that allows RC flying. It used to be that almost all the military bases had an RC club. Don't know what happened to them. Nowadays, if it doesn't have a touch screen and show videos, the kids aren't much interested. There are some really nice electric park flyers and slightly larger electric planes that can be flown in an open field or even a large parking lot. The new electric motors and speed controllers, along with the new battery technologies, have made the electric RC airplanes perform very well, and they are nearly silent. The biggest barrier to the big gas or glow fuel planes is noise. I'm a member of a club with 80 acres out in the country, and we can fly what we want, but we still always run mufflers on everything and are aware that flying sites can be taken away in a flash. It's an issue that everyone is dealing with. |
OT- Absolutely amazing radio controlled B-29
In article 57f4f614-43f7-4513-b2e3-
, says... On Jan 18, 9:09*am, John H wrote: On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 05:38:19 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Jan 18, 6:08*am, "Jack." wrote: On Jan 17, 9:21*pm, Tim wrote: On Jan 17, 8:12*am, "Jack." wrote: On Jan 16, 5:47*pm, Tim wrote: A B29 model powered by 4 chainsaw engines... Complete with a mid-air launch of an X1 rocket! * Here's where a lot of work pays off. http://users.skynet.be/fa926657/files/B29.wmv I've seen that thing fly twice, and watched him crash it once. *After the X1 landed, he spun the B29 down from way up high, where he'd been circling while the X1 did it's thing. *Then he flew down the runway doing slow rolls, and during one of the rolls the outer third of one of the wings folded up. *That was several years ago, and I understand it's been crashed and rebuilt more than once since. The original B29 was built by a guy who didn't get a chance to finish it before he passed away. *The family gave it to Mac Hodges, and he finished it and began flying it at RC events. BTW... those aren't exactly "chainsaw" motors. *They are purpose-built for RC aircraft use. *The current B29 has four DA-100 motors that are twin cylinder, 100cc and cost $1000 each. *Yes, with all the motors, radio gear, and airframe it's probably $6000 - 7000 in the air. *Just the props can be over $100 each. Here's the motor used: *http://www.desertaircraft.com/engine...hp?Page=DA-100 I passed on the info as I recieved it. Thanks for the correction. It was not meant in any mean-spirited way. * Deffinately understood. How would you know unless you were into R/C? *Besides, many R/C planes acrually *do* use converted chainsaw motors... they just aren't as light and powerful as something like the DA motor, but are a whole lot cheaper! *And gas&oil mix is far less expensive than the glow fuel that the traditional R/C motors use. no I haven't been into the model air plane stuff since I was a kid. Some where around either my brothers place or here, we've got a box of 04 cox and wen-mac engines left over for destroyed string fliers. we never could afford to get into RC I've thought about it, as I used to do a lot of u-control modelling. But a friend who is into it has had a rough time finding a place to fly around here. He's got to drive a long ways to find a place that allows RC flying. It used to be that almost all the military bases had an RC club. Don't know what happened to them. Nowadays, if it doesn't have a touch screen and show videos, the kids aren't much interested. There are some really nice electric park flyers and slightly larger electric planes that can be flown in an open field or even a large parking lot. The new electric motors and speed controllers, along with the new battery technologies, have made the electric RC airplanes perform very well, and they are nearly silent. The biggest barrier to the big gas or glow fuel planes is noise. I'm a member of a club with 80 acres out in the country, and we can fly what we want, but we still always run mufflers on everything and are aware that flying sites can be taken away in a flash. It's an issue that everyone is dealing with. I tried R/C planes and the one I had was electric. It's hard as hell for me to get the hang of the fact that when the plane is flying back to you, all of the controls are reversed with the exception of altitude control. |
OT- Absolutely amazing radio controlled B-29
On Jan 18, 12:33*pm, Spoofer wrote:
In article 57f4f614-43f7-4513-b2e3- , says... On Jan 18, 9:09*am, John H wrote: On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 05:38:19 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Jan 18, 6:08*am, "Jack." wrote: On Jan 17, 9:21*pm, Tim wrote: On Jan 17, 8:12*am, "Jack." wrote: On Jan 16, 5:47*pm, Tim wrote: A B29 model powered by 4 chainsaw engines... Complete with a mid-air launch of an X1 rocket! * Here's where a lot of work pays off. http://users.skynet.be/fa926657/files/B29.wmv I've seen that thing fly twice, and watched him crash it once. *After the X1 landed, he spun the B29 down from way up high, where he'd been circling while the X1 did it's thing. *Then he flew down the runway doing slow rolls, and during one of the rolls the outer third of one of the wings folded up. *That was several years ago, and I understand it's been crashed and rebuilt more than once since. The original B29 was built by a guy who didn't get a chance to finish it before he passed away. *The family gave it to Mac Hodges, and he finished it and began flying it at RC events. BTW... those aren't exactly "chainsaw" motors. *They are purpose-built for RC aircraft use. *The current B29 has four DA-100 motors that are twin cylinder, 100cc and cost $1000 each. *Yes, with all the motors, radio gear, and airframe it's probably $6000 - 7000 in the air.. *Just the props can be over $100 each. Here's the motor used: *http://www.desertaircraft.com/engine...hp?Page=DA-100 I passed on the info as I recieved it. Thanks for the correction. It was not meant in any mean-spirited way. * Deffinately understood. How would you know unless you were into R/C? *Besides, many R/C planes acrually *do* use converted chainsaw motors... they just aren't as light and powerful as something like the DA motor, but are a whole lot cheaper! *And gas&oil mix is far less expensive than the glow fuel that the traditional R/C motors use. no I haven't been into the model air plane stuff since I was a kid. Some where around either my brothers place or here, we've got a box of 04 cox and wen-mac engines left over for destroyed string fliers. we never could afford to get into RC I've thought about it, as I used to do a lot of u-control modelling. But a friend who is into it has had a rough time finding a place to fly around here. He's got to drive a long ways to find a place that allows RC flying. It used to be that almost all the military bases had an RC club. Don't know what happened to them. Nowadays, if it doesn't have a touch screen and show videos, the kids aren't much interested. There are some really nice electric park flyers and slightly larger electric planes that can be flown in an open field or even a large parking lot. *The new electric motors and speed controllers, along with the new battery technologies, have made the electric RC airplanes perform very well, and they are nearly silent. The biggest barrier to the big gas or glow fuel planes is noise. *I'm a member of a club with 80 acres out in the country, and we can fly what we want, but we still always run mufflers on everything and are aware that flying sites can be taken away in a flash. *It's an issue that everyone is dealing with. I tried R/C planes and the one I had was electric. It's hard as hell for me to get the hang of the fact that when the plane is flying back to you, all of the controls are reversed with the exception of altitude control. That is hard to adjust to. Lots of people, when learning, turn the TX so it's still oriented with the planes flight, them look back over their shoulder to see the plane. It's a crutch, but until you get it mastered, it does help. |
OT- Absolutely amazing radio controlled B-29
On Jan 18, 11:31*am, Spoofer wrote:
In article 14c0f104-3d19-4390-a395-452dc49299b4 @e4g2000vbg.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 18, 8:43*am, Harryk wrote: On 1/18/11 8:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 18, 6:08 am, *wrote: On Jan 17, 9:21 pm, *wrote: On Jan 17, 8:12 am, *wrote: On Jan 16, 5:47 pm, *wrote: A B29 model powered by 4 chainsaw engines... Complete with a mid-air launch of an X1 rocket! * Here's where a lot of work pays off.. http://users.skynet.be/fa926657/files/B29.wmv I've seen that thing fly twice, and watched him crash it once. *After the X1 landed, he spun the B29 down from way up high, where he'd been circling while the X1 did it's thing. *Then he flew down the runway doing slow rolls, and during one of the rolls the outer third of one of the wings folded up. *That was several years ago, and I understand it's been crashed and rebuilt more than once since. The original B29 was built by a guy who didn't get a chance to finish it before he passed away. *The family gave it to Mac Hodges, and he finished it and began flying it at RC events. BTW... those aren't exactly "chainsaw" motors. *They are purpose-built for RC aircraft use. *The current B29 has four DA-100 motors that are twin cylinder, 100cc and cost $1000 each. *Yes, with all the motors, radio gear, and airframe it's probably $6000 - 7000 in the air. *Just the props can be over $100 each. Here's the motor used: *http://www.desertaircraft.com/engine...hp?Page=DA-100 I passed on the info as I recieved it. Thanks for the correction. It was not meant in any mean-spirited way. Deffinately understood. How would you know unless you were into R/C? *Besides, many R/C planes acrually *do* use converted chainsaw motors... they just aren't as light and powerful as something like the DA motor, but are a whole lot cheaper! *And gas&oil mix is far less expensive than the glow fuel that the traditional R/C motors use. no I haven't been into the model air plane stuff since I was a kid. Some where around either my brothers place or here, we've got a box of 04 cox and wen-mac engines left over for destroyed string fliers. Don't through away those old motors. *Some are collectable, although they aren't really worth much. we never could afford to get into RC The radio gear was expensive and finicky back then, but is amazingly cheap and bulletproof now. *I was in the same boat as a kid. The one time I got my U-Control balsa and tissue model airplane in the air I got so dizzy I puked. This was when I was 12 or 13. Were there RC flying models in those days? I don't remember them. I flew a lot of U/C back in the day. *I started with the little string line 0.049 Cox motor planes, and graduated up to stainless steel lines on 50" wingspan stunters with Fox and McCoy motors at just under 0.50 (yes, 1/2 cubic inch) motors. *I still have a couple and fly them occasionally. *The R/C guys just watch and shake their heads. *:- There was R/C back in the timeframe I beleive you're talking about, but it was experimental and rare. *Guys had to build their own transmitter and receiver equipment in the beginning, and the control was crude. *It took the transistor becoming common and cheap in the '60s to have multi-channel, proportional control equipment, and it was very expensive. Now you can buy a nice 6 channel R/C transmitter and receiver with 4 control servos, rechargeable TX and RX batteries, and a charger for around $200. There were actually crude R/C planes in WW2. They used them for target practice in the Navy for one. Yes, My dad (Army) shot at a few with .50 cal. He said they were really hard to hit. He described it as a monoplane that took off from a skid (no landing gear) that was equiped with a single 2-cycle, twin opposing cylinder rnotor, yet it had two counter-rotating props. he also said that when it hit the ground it would come apart easily so it wouldn't sustain a lot of damage on impact and could be re- assembled fairly well on the spot and put back into practice. now if by chance you shot it up and it crashed, there were also spare parts to re-assemble it w/little effort. I looked around for pics of one, but you either had planes with the single prop, or you got pictures of the engine with dual fans. |
OT- Absolutely amazing radio controlled B-29
Jack. wrote:
On Jan 17, 9:21 pm, wrote: On Jan 17, 8:12 am, wrote: On Jan 16, 5:47 pm, wrote: A B29 model powered by 4 chainsaw engines... Complete with a mid-air launch of an X1 rocket! Here's where a lot of work pays off. http://users.skynet.be/fa926657/files/B29.wmv I've seen that thing fly twice, and watched him crash it once. After the X1 landed, he spun the B29 down from way up high, where he'd been circling while the X1 did it's thing. Then he flew down the runway doing slow rolls, and during one of the rolls the outer third of one of the wings folded up. That was several years ago, and I understand it's been crashed and rebuilt more than once since. The original B29 was built by a guy who didn't get a chance to finish it before he passed away. The family gave it to Mac Hodges, and he finished it and began flying it at RC events. BTW... those aren't exactly "chainsaw" motors. They are purpose-built for RC aircraft use. The current B29 has four DA-100 motors that are twin cylinder, 100cc and cost $1000 each. Yes, with all the motors, radio gear, and airframe it's probably $6000 - 7000 in the air. Just the props can be over $100 each. Here's the motor used: http://www.desertaircraft.com/engine...hp?Page=DA-100 I passed on the info as I recieved it. Thanks for the correction. It was not meant in any mean-spirited way. How would you know unless you were into R/C? Besides, many R/C planes acrually *do* use converted chainsaw motors... they just aren't as light and powerful as something like the DA motor, but are a whole lot cheaper! And gas&oil mix is far less expensive than the glow fuel that the traditional R/C motors use. I made a boat powered with a weed eater motor when I was a kid. It was a lot of fun! |
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