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I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
I know the weather is bad for most of you and I know how much "cabin
fever" can make me "on edge" too. So, all you flamers, GO OUTSIDE, even if it is ice fishing. Go skiing or snowshoeing, but get outside for a couple of hours. Then come back and we'll talk boats. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On 1/16/11 1:20 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
I know the weather is bad for most of you and I know how much "cabin fever" can make me "on edge" too. So, all you flamers, GO OUTSIDE, even if it is ice fishing. Go skiing or snowshoeing, but get outside for a couple of hours. Then come back and we'll talk boats. I just fired up my new gas grill for the first time...out on my new deck. I checked it for leaks, following the directions in the manual. No leaks. (Whew!) Turned on the burners, let it heat up. If it isn't too cold this evening, I'll cook dinner on it. That's all outdoor activity. :) The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You are far more adventurous in your caving and boating than I am, by the way. I hope I don't read of your accidental demise some day. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On 1/16/11 1:32 PM, Gene wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:26:51 -0500, wrote: On 1/16/11 1:20 PM, Frogwatch wrote: I know the weather is bad for most of you and I know how much "cabin fever" can make me "on edge" too. So, all you flamers, GO OUTSIDE, even if it is ice fishing. Go skiing or snowshoeing, but get outside for a couple of hours. Then come back and we'll talk boats. I just fired up my new gas grill for the first time...out on my new deck. I checked it for leaks, following the directions in the manual. No leaks. (Whew!) Turned on the burners, let it heat up. If it isn't too cold this evening, I'll cook dinner on it. That's all outdoor activity. :) The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You are far more adventurous in your caving and boating than I am, by the way. I hope I don't read of your accidental demise some day. Don't be a pussy..... the colder it is, the better a grill seems to do....! (Smoker, too....) Yeah...I can stay warm standing next to the grill! |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On Jan 16, 1:26*pm, Harryk wrote:
The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You should always open the valve all the way on an LP tank. They are designed with a "back-seat", which seals the valve stem when openend. If you partially open it, gas can leak from the stem. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On Jan 16, 1:20*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
I know the weather is bad for most of you and I know how much "cabin fever" can make me "on edge" too. *So, all you flamers, GO OUTSIDE, even if it is ice fishing. *Go skiing or snowshoeing, but get outside for a couple of hours. *Then come back and we'll talk boats. Heh... good advice. I'm out in my shop, practicing MIG welding 18 ga. steel sheet. After I get a handle on it, I'll be welding in some patches on my old car. Fortunately, nothing I'm working on will be visible when it's completed. I can squirt wire and stick metal together, but it's not particularly pretty. A welder friend of mine says that's why God made grinders. :- |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On Jan 16, 1:47*pm, Harryk wrote:
On 1/16/11 1:32 PM, Gene wrote: On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:26:51 -0500, wrote: On 1/16/11 1:20 PM, Frogwatch wrote: I know the weather is bad for most of you and I know how much "cabin fever" can make me "on edge" too. *So, all you flamers, GO OUTSIDE, even if it is ice fishing. *Go skiing or snowshoeing, but get outside for a couple of hours. *Then come back and we'll talk boats. I just fired up my new gas grill for the first time...out on my new deck. I checked it for leaks, following the directions in the manual. No leaks. (Whew!) Turned on the burners, let it heat up. If it isn't too cold this evening, I'll cook dinner on it. That's all outdoor activity. *:) The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You are far more adventurous in your caving and boating than I am, by the way. I hope I don't read of your accidental demise some day. Don't be a pussy..... the colder it is, the better a grill seems to do....! *(Smoker, too....) Yeah...I can stay warm standing next to the grill! I have one of those Magma propane grills on my boat but am terrified of propane leaks so I store the canisters outside. Although I oil the threads and seals, the salt air affects them still so they sometimes will not seal themselves once used. So, I took one of them off the grill and found it hissing away venting propane. What do I do with it? We are at Great Sale Cay with no place to dispose of it and it sure isn't staying aboard the boat. I do not like to keep the grill on the stern when it is choppy. Feeling very guilty, I heave it as far away as I can from the boat, problem solved........or so I think. An hour or so later as the tide runs out and it is almost dark, I hear "THUNK, THUNK, THUNK" and look overboard. It has returned on the tide bonking against the hull. JEEZUS, the canister from hell. We retrieve it with the net and hurl it in the direction of the flowing tide. Fortunately, it did not return again. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... I know the weather is bad for most of you and I know how much "cabin fever" can make me "on edge" too. So, all you flamers, GO OUTSIDE, even if it is ice fishing. Go skiing or snowshoeing, but get outside for a couple of hours. Then come back and we'll talk boats. ======= I've been working on my old Morgan 24. Got all the old rotted teak off and have sanded about 30% in preparation for painting. Bought a gallon of epoxy primer (man has that crap gotten expensive!) to go along with the 3 quart kits of Interlux Interthane plus I had on the shelf. Gelcoat is very bad shape and that's why I went with the epoxy primer. Got a couple new Beckson opening ports for the v-berth and will install after the paint dries. Decks and house will be Hatteras Off White and the hull a dark green (have picked out a paint yet for this, probably go with Brightside). Replacing the old teak with "Azek" fake lumber. About one 20th the cost of teak, easy to work with and no sanding and varnishing later. I've made the new hand rails and the look pretty good. All outside stuff and you're right, being stuck inside makes people mean as snakes. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On Jan 16, 2:14*pm, "MMC" wrote:
"Frogwatch" *wrote in message ... I know the weather is bad for most of you and I know how much "cabin fever" can make me "on edge" too. *So, all you flamers, GO OUTSIDE, even if it is ice fishing. *Go skiing or snowshoeing, but get outside for a couple of hours. *Then come back and we'll talk boats. ======= I've been working on my old Morgan 24. Got all the old rotted teak off and have sanded about 30% in preparation for painting. Bought a gallon of epoxy primer (man has that crap gotten expensive!) to go along with the 3 quart kits of Interlux Interthane plus I had on the shelf. Gelcoat is very bad shape and that's why I went with the epoxy primer. Got a couple new Beckson opening ports for the v-berth and will install after the paint dries. Decks and house will be Hatteras Off White and the hull a dark green (have picked out a paint yet for this, probably go with Brightside). Replacing the old teak with "Azek" fake lumber. About one 20th the cost of teak, easy to work with and no sanding and varnishing later. I've made the new hand rails and the look pretty good. All outside stuff and you're right, being stuck inside makes people mean as snakes. Getting older does produce improved judgement even if it is only a form of natural selection against those with poor judgement, consequently, I find myself less likely to do stuff I would have not hesitated to do when younger. For example, we found a cave near Hole in the Wall that looked really interesting but had an awful crawling passage with a floor of knife-like coral. Looking at it, I said “No effin way I’m crawlin down that passage” and I hear two of the guys jokingly make “Meow” noises behind me. I reply, “I’m 54, you guys are 40, knock yourselves out doing it”. They did it and it went nowhere. I have found that these days I no longer do extreme stuff but am very happy to use caving as simply an excuse to go places I would otherwise never visit even when I do little caving. For example, Hole in the Wall is really stunning and wandering around on its cliffs looking for sea caves is breathtaking and I refused to enter any of them. Without some excuse to go there, I never would have seen this stuff. Getting older gives me a license to wimp out and not feel bad about it. For MMC: Sounds like a fun winter project. A Morgan is a good old boat. I believe I have had problems with one of my home built boats I epoxied when it was too cold so make sure you heat your area. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On Jan 16, 12:32*pm, Gene wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:26:51 -0500, Harryk wrote: On 1/16/11 1:20 PM, Frogwatch wrote: I know the weather is bad for most of you and I know how much "cabin fever" can make me "on edge" too. *So, all you flamers, GO OUTSIDE, even if it is ice fishing. *Go skiing or snowshoeing, but get outside for a couple of hours. *Then come back and we'll talk boats. I just fired up my new gas grill for the first time...out on my new deck.. I checked it for leaks, following the directions in the manual. No leaks. (Whew!) Turned on the burners, let it heat up. If it isn't too cold this evening, I'll cook dinner on it. That's all outdoor activity. *:) The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You are far more adventurous in your caving and boating than I am, by the way. I hope I don't read of your accidental demise some day. Don't be a pussy..... the colder it is, the better a grill seems to do....! *(Smoker, too....) Seems odd, doesn't it? But it's true! Fort Agent 6.00 Build 1186 |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On Jan 16, 1:11*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jan 16, 1:47*pm, Harryk wrote: On 1/16/11 1:32 PM, Gene wrote: On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:26:51 -0500, wrote: On 1/16/11 1:20 PM, Frogwatch wrote: I know the weather is bad for most of you and I know how much "cabin fever" can make me "on edge" too. *So, all you flamers, GO OUTSIDE, even if it is ice fishing. *Go skiing or snowshoeing, but get outside for a couple of hours. *Then come back and we'll talk boats. I just fired up my new gas grill for the first time...out on my new deck. I checked it for leaks, following the directions in the manual. No leaks. (Whew!) Turned on the burners, let it heat up. If it isn't too cold this evening, I'll cook dinner on it. That's all outdoor activity. *:) The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You are far more adventurous in your caving and boating than I am, by the way. I hope I don't read of your accidental demise some day. Don't be a pussy..... the colder it is, the better a grill seems to do....! *(Smoker, too....) Yeah...I can stay warm standing next to the grill! I have one of those Magma propane grills on my boat but am terrified of propane leaks so I store the canisters outside. *Although I oil the threads and seals, the salt air affects them still so they sometimes will not seal themselves once used. *So, I took one of them off the grill and found it hissing away venting propane. *What do I do with it? *We are at Great Sale Cay with no place to dispose of it and it sure isn't staying aboard the boat. *I do not like to keep the grill on the stern when it is choppy. *Feeling very guilty, I heave it as far away as I can from the boat, problem solved........or so I think. An hour or so later as the tide runs out and it is almost dark, I hear "THUNK, THUNK, THUNK" and look overboard. *It has returned on the tide bonking against the hull. *JEEZUS, the canister from hell. We retrieve it with the net and hurl it in the direction of the flowing tide. Fortunately, it did not return again. Maybe Wayne will snag it with a prop! |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On Jan 16, 1:14*pm, "MMC" wrote:
"Frogwatch" *wrote in message ... I know the weather is bad for most of you and I know how much "cabin fever" can make me "on edge" too. *So, all you flamers, GO OUTSIDE, even if it is ice fishing. *Go skiing or snowshoeing, but get outside for a couple of hours. *Then come back and we'll talk boats. ======= I've been working on my old Morgan 24. Got all the old rotted teak off and have sanded about 30% in preparation for painting. Bought a gallon of epoxy primer (man has that crap gotten expensive!) to go along with the 3 quart kits of Interlux Interthane plus I had on the shelf. Gelcoat is very bad shape and that's why I went with the epoxy primer. Got a couple new Beckson opening ports for the v-berth and will install after the paint dries. Decks and house will be Hatteras Off White and the hull a dark green (have picked out a paint yet for this, probably go with Brightside). Replacing the old teak with "Azek" fake lumber. About one 20th the cost of teak, easy to work with and no sanding and varnishing later. I've made the new hand rails and the look pretty good. All outside stuff and you're right, being stuck inside makes people mean as snakes. That's one reason I've been cutting firewood. running a chainsaw, weed- eater or push lawnmower is good therapy for me. Beats knocking somebody up the side of the head... |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 16, 1:14 pm, "MMC" wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... I know the weather is bad for most of you and I know how much "cabin fever" can make me "on edge" too. So, all you flamers, GO OUTSIDE, even if it is ice fishing. Go skiing or snowshoeing, but get outside for a couple of hours. Then come back and we'll talk boats. ======= I've been working on my old Morgan 24. Got all the old rotted teak off and have sanded about 30% in preparation for painting. Bought a gallon of epoxy primer (man has that crap gotten expensive!) to go along with the 3 quart kits of Interlux Interthane plus I had on the shelf. Gelcoat is very bad shape and that's why I went with the epoxy primer. Got a couple new Beckson opening ports for the v-berth and will install after the paint dries. Decks and house will be Hatteras Off White and the hull a dark green (have picked out a paint yet for this, probably go with Brightside). Replacing the old teak with "Azek" fake lumber. About one 20th the cost of teak, easy to work with and no sanding and varnishing later. I've made the new hand rails and the look pretty good. All outside stuff and you're right, being stuck inside makes people mean as snakes. That's one reason I've been cutting firewood. running a chainsaw, weed- eater or push lawnmower is good therapy for me. Beats knocking somebody up the side of the head... Yeah but... there are half a dozen or so posters here who really need your head knocking services. It would be for their own good so it could qualify as a charitable service. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On 1/16/11 2:03 PM, Jack. wrote:
On Jan 16, 1:26 pm, wrote: The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You should always open the valve all the way on an LP tank. They are designed with a "back-seat", which seals the valve stem when openend. If you partially open it, gas can leak from the stem. Aha...thanks. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Jan 16, 2:14 pm, "MMC" wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... I know the weather is bad for most of you and I know how much "cabin fever" can make me "on edge" too. So, all you flamers, GO OUTSIDE, even if it is ice fishing. Go skiing or snowshoeing, but get outside for a couple of hours. Then come back and we'll talk boats. ======= I've been working on my old Morgan 24. Got all the old rotted teak off and have sanded about 30% in preparation for painting. Bought a gallon of epoxy primer (man has that crap gotten expensive!) to go along with the 3 quart kits of Interlux Interthane plus I had on the shelf. Gelcoat is very bad shape and that's why I went with the epoxy primer. Got a couple new Beckson opening ports for the v-berth and will install after the paint dries. Decks and house will be Hatteras Off White and the hull a dark green (have picked out a paint yet for this, probably go with Brightside). Replacing the old teak with "Azek" fake lumber. About one 20th the cost of teak, easy to work with and no sanding and varnishing later. I've made the new hand rails and the look pretty good. All outside stuff and you're right, being stuck inside makes people mean as snakes. Getting older does produce improved judgement even if it is only a form of natural selection against those with poor judgement, consequently, I find myself less likely to do stuff I would have not hesitated to do when younger. For example, we found a cave near Hole in the Wall that looked really interesting but had an awful crawling passage with a floor of knife-like coral. Looking at it, I said “No effin way I’m crawlin down that passage” and I hear two of the guys jokingly make “Meow” noises behind me. I reply, “I’m 54, you guys are 40, knock yourselves out doing it”. They did it and it went nowhere. I have found that these days I no longer do extreme stuff but am very happy to use caving as simply an excuse to go places I would otherwise never visit even when I do little caving. For example, Hole in the Wall is really stunning and wandering around on its cliffs looking for sea caves is breathtaking and I refused to enter any of them. Without some excuse to go there, I never would have seen this stuff. Getting older gives me a license to wimp out and not feel bad about it. For MMC: Sounds like a fun winter project. A Morgan is a good old boat. I believe I have had problems with one of my home built boats I epoxied when it was too cold so make sure you heat your area. ========= I'm finding other things to do when it's colder than about 60! Today would have been a perfect day for painting if I had been ready. Yeah, I like my old 1967 Morgan. Got it for $1k, fully rigged and included 96 6hp Johnson because it looked like crap and the center board didn't work. I'll get the centerboard sorted out if I have the time when I get it hauled to paint. I know what you mean about not taking the risk we did when younger. Everything seems to take longer to heal than it used to. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 16, 1:14 pm, "MMC" wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... I know the weather is bad for most of you and I know how much "cabin fever" can make me "on edge" too. So, all you flamers, GO OUTSIDE, even if it is ice fishing. Go skiing or snowshoeing, but get outside for a couple of hours. Then come back and we'll talk boats. ======= I've been working on my old Morgan 24. Got all the old rotted teak off and have sanded about 30% in preparation for painting. Bought a gallon of epoxy primer (man has that crap gotten expensive!) to go along with the 3 quart kits of Interlux Interthane plus I had on the shelf. Gelcoat is very bad shape and that's why I went with the epoxy primer. Got a couple new Beckson opening ports for the v-berth and will install after the paint dries. Decks and house will be Hatteras Off White and the hull a dark green (have picked out a paint yet for this, probably go with Brightside). Replacing the old teak with "Azek" fake lumber. About one 20th the cost of teak, easy to work with and no sanding and varnishing later. I've made the new hand rails and the look pretty good. All outside stuff and you're right, being stuck inside makes people mean as snakes. That's one reason I've been cutting firewood. running a chainsaw, weed- eater or push lawnmower is good therapy for me. Beats knocking somebody up the side of the head... ===== You got that right Tim! |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 16, 1:14 pm, "MMC" wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... I know the weather is bad for most of you and I know how much "cabin fever" can make me "on edge" too. So, all you flamers, GO OUTSIDE, even if it is ice fishing. Go skiing or snowshoeing, but get outside for a couple of hours. Then come back and we'll talk boats. ======= I've been working on my old Morgan 24. Got all the old rotted teak off and have sanded about 30% in preparation for painting. Bought a gallon of epoxy primer (man has that crap gotten expensive!) to go along with the 3 quart kits of Interlux Interthane plus I had on the shelf. Gelcoat is very bad shape and that's why I went with the epoxy primer. Got a couple new Beckson opening ports for the v-berth and will install after the paint dries. Decks and house will be Hatteras Off White and the hull a dark green (have picked out a paint yet for this, probably go with Brightside). Replacing the old teak with "Azek" fake lumber. About one 20th the cost of teak, easy to work with and no sanding and varnishing later. I've made the new hand rails and the look pretty good. All outside stuff and you're right, being stuck inside makes people mean as snakes. That's one reason I've been cutting firewood. running a chainsaw, weed- eater or push lawnmower is good therapy for me. Beats knocking somebody up the side of the head... ===== Why knock someone up the side of the head when with a chainsaw, you could entirely remove that offending head? |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On 1/16/11 1:47 PM, Harryk wrote:
On 1/16/11 1:32 PM, Gene wrote: On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:26:51 -0500, wrote: On 1/16/11 1:20 PM, Frogwatch wrote: I know the weather is bad for most of you and I know how much "cabin fever" can make me "on edge" too. So, all you flamers, GO OUTSIDE, even if it is ice fishing. Go skiing or snowshoeing, but get outside for a couple of hours. Then come back and we'll talk boats. I just fired up my new gas grill for the first time...out on my new deck. I checked it for leaks, following the directions in the manual. No leaks. (Whew!) Turned on the burners, let it heat up. If it isn't too cold this evening, I'll cook dinner on it. That's all outdoor activity. :) The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You are far more adventurous in your caving and boating than I am, by the way. I hope I don't read of your accidental demise some day. Don't be a pussy..... the colder it is, the better a grill seems to do....! (Smoker, too....) Yeah...I can stay warm standing next to the grill! OK...I started up the grill again...dang...no explosions (yet). I don't think I'll stand next to it, though, until I put the beouf on. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
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I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:20:18 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote: I know the weather is bad for most of you and I know how much "cabin fever" can make me "on edge" too. So, all you flamers, GO OUTSIDE, even if it is ice fishing. Go skiing or snowshoeing, but get outside for a couple of hours. Then come back and we'll talk boats. Golf works also. Got in my 18 holes today, but it was chilly. Toes didn't like it. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:47:10 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Jan 16, 1:14*pm, "MMC" wrote: "Frogwatch" *wrote in message ... I know the weather is bad for most of you and I know how much "cabin fever" can make me "on edge" too. *So, all you flamers, GO OUTSIDE, even if it is ice fishing. *Go skiing or snowshoeing, but get outside for a couple of hours. *Then come back and we'll talk boats. ======= I've been working on my old Morgan 24. Got all the old rotted teak off and have sanded about 30% in preparation for painting. Bought a gallon of epoxy primer (man has that crap gotten expensive!) to go along with the 3 quart kits of Interlux Interthane plus I had on the shelf. Gelcoat is very bad shape and that's why I went with the epoxy primer. Got a couple new Beckson opening ports for the v-berth and will install after the paint dries. Decks and house will be Hatteras Off White and the hull a dark green (have picked out a paint yet for this, probably go with Brightside). Replacing the old teak with "Azek" fake lumber. About one 20th the cost of teak, easy to work with and no sanding and varnishing later. I've made the new hand rails and the look pretty good. All outside stuff and you're right, being stuck inside makes people mean as snakes. That's one reason I've been cutting firewood. running a chainsaw, weed- eater or push lawnmower is good therapy for me. Beats knocking somebody up the side of the head... Doesn't beat blowing things up. Damn, I miss that. |
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I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
"YukonBound" wrote in message
... "Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 16, 1:14 pm, "MMC" wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... I know the weather is bad for most of you and I know how much "cabin fever" can make me "on edge" too. So, all you flamers, GO OUTSIDE, even if it is ice fishing. Go skiing or snowshoeing, but get outside for a couple of hours. Then come back and we'll talk boats. ======= I've been working on my old Morgan 24. Got all the old rotted teak off and have sanded about 30% in preparation for painting. Bought a gallon of epoxy primer (man has that crap gotten expensive!) to go along with the 3 quart kits of Interlux Interthane plus I had on the shelf. Gelcoat is very bad shape and that's why I went with the epoxy primer. Got a couple new Beckson opening ports for the v-berth and will install after the paint dries. Decks and house will be Hatteras Off White and the hull a dark green (have picked out a paint yet for this, probably go with Brightside). Replacing the old teak with "Azek" fake lumber. About one 20th the cost of teak, easy to work with and no sanding and varnishing later. I've made the new hand rails and the look pretty good. All outside stuff and you're right, being stuck inside makes people mean as snakes. That's one reason I've been cutting firewood. running a chainsaw, weed- eater or push lawnmower is good therapy for me. Beats knocking somebody up the side of the head... Yeah but... there are half a dozen or so posters here who really need your head knocking services. It would be for their own good so it could qualify as a charitable service. Reply: Asshole! |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On 1/17/11 6:39 PM, Califbill wrote:
"I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article cee50221-872b-450d-a446-9c59166b96d2@ 29g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 16, 1:26 pm, Harryk wrote: The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You should always open the valve all the way on an LP tank. They are designed with a "back-seat", which seals the valve stem when openend. If you partially open it, gas can leak from the stem. Wow, I did not know that.. I never seat anything unless I need to. Arrgh! I guess I'll have to check "the google," since we have conflicting information here. Maybe I'll just send an email to Weber. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On 1/17/11 6:55 PM, Harryk wrote:
On 1/17/11 6:39 PM, Califbill wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article cee50221-872b-450d-a446-9c59166b96d2@ 29g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 16, 1:26 pm, Harryk wrote: The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You should always open the valve all the way on an LP tank. They are designed with a "back-seat", which seals the valve stem when openend. If you partially open it, gas can leak from the stem. Wow, I did not know that.. I never seat anything unless I need to. Arrgh! I guess I'll have to check "the google," since we have conflicting information here. Maybe I'll just send an email to Weber. This site says to open the valve all the way. I emailed weber and will post its answer: http://www.ehow.com/how_7429091_ligh...ll-safely.html |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On Jan 17, 6:39*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"I am Tosk" *wrote in l-september.org... In article cee50221-872b-450d-a446-9c59166b96d2@ 29g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 16, 1:26 pm, Harryk wrote: The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You should always open the valve all the way on an LP tank. *They are designed with a "back-seat", which seals the valve stem when openend. If you partially open it, gas can leak from the stem. Wow, I did not know that.. I never seat anything unless I need to. -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Reply: TOTALLY WRONG!!!! *Crack the valve about 1/4 turn. *Same with all flammable gas cylinders. *O2, Argon etc. that are high pressure and inert have back seals. *You want to be able to turn the tank off quickly if there is a leak or fire. *Take any welding class and you will learn about gas safety. Propane is a lot safer than a lot of the flammable gas as it is a liquid under pressure and therefore is at a lot lower pressure in the tank. Acetylene is a higher pressure in the tank but is in solution in acetone (I think that is the liquid) as acetylene will self ignite explosively at a fairly low pressure. From the Weber website: Cart Based Models * Close the LP tank valve * Turn all burner control knobs to the OFF position * Open the grill lid * Turn the LP tank valve until it is completely open * Wait several seconds * Turn the front burner to the HI/Start position * Press the igniter until the burner is lit. * Turn remaining burners to High * Close the lid. * The grill should preheat to 500-550 degrees in 10-15 minutes As you point out, LP is not the same as acetylene. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
YukonBound wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 16, 1:14 pm, "MMC" wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... I know the weather is bad for most of you and I know how much "cabin fever" can make me "on edge" too. So, all you flamers, GO OUTSIDE, even if it is ice fishing. Go skiing or snowshoeing, but get outside for a couple of hours. Then come back and we'll talk boats. ======= I've been working on my old Morgan 24. Got all the old rotted teak off and have sanded about 30% in preparation for painting. Bought a gallon of epoxy primer (man has that crap gotten expensive!) to go along with the 3 quart kits of Interlux Interthane plus I had on the shelf. Gelcoat is very bad shape and that's why I went with the epoxy primer. Got a couple new Beckson opening ports for the v-berth and will install after the paint dries. Decks and house will be Hatteras Off White and the hull a dark green (have picked out a paint yet for this, probably go with Brightside). Replacing the old teak with "Azek" fake lumber. About one 20th the cost of teak, easy to work with and no sanding and varnishing later. I've made the new hand rails and the look pretty good. All outside stuff and you're right, being stuck inside makes people mean as snakes. That's one reason I've been cutting firewood. running a chainsaw, weed- eater or push lawnmower is good therapy for me. Beats knocking somebody up the side of the head... Yeah but... there are half a dozen or so posters here who really need your head knocking services. It would be for their own good so it could qualify as a charitable service. Nice, dummy. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On 1/17/11 7:16 PM, Jack. wrote:
On Jan 17, 6:39 pm, wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in l-september.org... In articlecee50221-872b-450d-a446-9c59166b96d2@ 29g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 16, 1:26 pm, wrote: The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You should always open the valve all the way on an LP tank. They are designed with a "back-seat", which seals the valve stem when openend. If you partially open it, gas can leak from the stem. Wow, I did not know that.. I never seat anything unless I need to. -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Reply: TOTALLY WRONG!!!! Crack the valve about 1/4 turn. Same with all flammable gas cylinders. O2, Argon etc. that are high pressure and inert have back seals. You want to be able to turn the tank off quickly if there is a leak or fire. Take any welding class and you will learn about gas safety. Propane is a lot safer than a lot of the flammable gas as it is a liquid under pressure and therefore is at a lot lower pressure in the tank. Acetylene is a higher pressure in the tank but is in solution in acetone (I think that is the liquid) as acetylene will self ignite explosively at a fairly low pressure. From the Weber website: Cart Based Models * Close the LP tank valve * Turn all burner control knobs to the OFF position * Open the grill lid * Turn the LP tank valve until it is completely open * Wait several seconds * Turn the front burner to the HI/Start position * Press the igniter until the burner is lit. * Turn remaining burners to High * Close the lid. * The grill should preheat to 500-550 degrees in 10-15 minutes As you point out, LP is not the same as acetylene. Those are the instructions on how to resolve a particular problem, not the directions for S.O.P. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
"Jack." wrote in message
... On Jan 17, 6:39 pm, "Califbill" wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in l-september.org... In article cee50221-872b-450d-a446-9c59166b96d2@ 29g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 16, 1:26 pm, Harryk wrote: The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You should always open the valve all the way on an LP tank. They are designed with a "back-seat", which seals the valve stem when openend. If you partially open it, gas can leak from the stem. Wow, I did not know that.. I never seat anything unless I need to. -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Reply: TOTALLY WRONG!!!! Crack the valve about 1/4 turn. Same with all flammable gas cylinders. O2, Argon etc. that are high pressure and inert have back seals. You want to be able to turn the tank off quickly if there is a leak or fire. Take any welding class and you will learn about gas safety. Propane is a lot safer than a lot of the flammable gas as it is a liquid under pressure and therefore is at a lot lower pressure in the tank. Acetylene is a higher pressure in the tank but is in solution in acetone (I think that is the liquid) as acetylene will self ignite explosively at a fairly low pressure. From the Weber website: Cart Based Models * Close the LP tank valve * Turn all burner control knobs to the OFF position * Open the grill lid * Turn the LP tank valve until it is completely open * Wait several seconds * Turn the front burner to the HI/Start position * Press the igniter until the burner is lit. * Turn remaining burners to High * Close the lid. * The grill should preheat to 500-550 degrees in 10-15 minutes As you point out, LP is not the same as acetylene. Reply: Is still a flammable gas. What happens if you get a bad hose, valve, etc. You want to turn it off quickly. Not making 10 turns on a valve that may be near the fire. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On Jan 17, 8:24*pm, Harryk wrote:
On 1/17/11 7:16 PM, Jack. wrote: On Jan 17, 6:39 pm, *wrote: "I am Tosk" *wrote in l-september.org... In articlecee50221-872b-450d-a446-9c59166b96d2@ 29g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 16, 1:26 pm, *wrote: The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You should always open the valve all the way on an LP tank. *They are designed with a "back-seat", which seals the valve stem when openend. If you partially open it, gas can leak from the stem. Wow, I did not know that.. I never seat anything unless I need to. -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Reply: TOTALLY WRONG!!!! *Crack the valve about 1/4 turn. *Same with all flammable gas cylinders. *O2, Argon etc. that are high pressure and inert have back seals. *You want to be able to turn the tank off quickly if there is a leak or fire. *Take any welding class and you will learn about gas safety.. Propane is a lot safer than a lot of the flammable gas as it is a liquid under pressure and therefore is at a lot lower pressure in the tank. Acetylene is a higher pressure in the tank but is in solution in acetone (I think that is the liquid) as acetylene will self ignite explosively at a fairly low pressure. *From the Weber website: Cart Based Models * Close the LP tank valve * Turn all burner control knobs to the OFF position * Open the grill lid * Turn the LP tank valve until it is completely open * Wait several seconds * Turn the front burner to the HI/Start position * Press the igniter until the burner is lit. * Turn remaining burners to High * Close the lid. * The grill should preheat to 500-550 degrees in 10-15 minutes As you point out, LP is not the same as acetylene. Those are the instructions on how to resolve a particular problem, not the directions for S.O.P. Do what you want. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On Jan 17, 10:24*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"Jack." *wrote in message ... On Jan 17, 6:39 pm, "Califbill" wrote: "I am Tosk" *wrote in l-september.org... In article cee50221-872b-450d-a446-9c59166b96d2@ 29g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 16, 1:26 pm, Harryk wrote: The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank.. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You should always open the valve all the way on an LP tank. *They are designed with a "back-seat", which seals the valve stem when openend. If you partially open it, gas can leak from the stem. Wow, I did not know that.. I never seat anything unless I need to. -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Reply: TOTALLY WRONG!!!! *Crack the valve about 1/4 turn. *Same with all flammable gas cylinders. *O2, Argon etc. that are high pressure and inert have back seals. *You want to be able to turn the tank off quickly if there is a leak or fire. *Take any welding class and you will learn about gas safety. Propane is a lot safer than a lot of the flammable gas as it is a liquid under pressure and therefore is at a lot lower pressure in the tank. Acetylene is a higher pressure in the tank but is in solution in acetone (I think that is the liquid) as acetylene will self ignite explosively at a fairly low pressure. From the Weber website: Cart Based Models * Close the LP tank valve * Turn all burner control knobs to the OFF position * Open the grill lid * Turn the LP tank valve until it is completely open * Wait several seconds * Turn the front burner to the HI/Start position * Press the igniter until the burner is lit. * Turn remaining burners to High * Close the lid. * The grill should preheat to 500-550 degrees in 10-15 minutes As you point out, LP is not the same as acetylene. Reply: Is still a flammable gas. *What happens if you get a bad hose, valve, etc. You want to turn it off quickly. *Not making 10 turns on a valve that may be near the fire. If you don't fully open and back-seat it, the fire may be at the valve stem itself. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On 1/18/11 6:58 AM, Jack. wrote:
On Jan 17, 8:24 pm, wrote: On 1/17/11 7:16 PM, Jack. wrote: On Jan 17, 6:39 pm, wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in l-september.org... In articlecee50221-872b-450d-a446-9c59166b96d2@ 29g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 16, 1:26 pm, wrote: The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You should always open the valve all the way on an LP tank. They are designed with a "back-seat", which seals the valve stem when openend. If you partially open it, gas can leak from the stem. Wow, I did not know that.. I never seat anything unless I need to. -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Reply: TOTALLY WRONG!!!! Crack the valve about 1/4 turn. Same with all flammable gas cylinders. O2, Argon etc. that are high pressure and inert have back seals. You want to be able to turn the tank off quickly if there is a leak or fire. Take any welding class and you will learn about gas safety. Propane is a lot safer than a lot of the flammable gas as it is a liquid under pressure and therefore is at a lot lower pressure in the tank. Acetylene is a higher pressure in the tank but is in solution in acetone (I think that is the liquid) as acetylene will self ignite explosively at a fairly low pressure. From the Weber website: Cart Based Models * Close the LP tank valve * Turn all burner control knobs to the OFF position * Open the grill lid * Turn the LP tank valve until it is completely open * Wait several seconds * Turn the front burner to the HI/Start position * Press the igniter until the burner is lit. * Turn remaining burners to High * Close the lid. * The grill should preheat to 500-550 degrees in 10-15 minutes As you point out, LP is not the same as acetylene. Those are the instructions on how to resolve a particular problem, not the directions for S.O.P. Do what you want. I emailed Weber and will post its answer here. I assume Weber will not offer up incorrect advice on something as critical as avoiding an explosion or out of control fire. What you posted, by the way, is what I did when I first fired up the grill. I assumed one opened the tank valve all the way. It makes sense to me, since the actual flow of gas to the grill is "regulated" by the burner controls. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:16:46 -0800 (PST), "Jack." wrote:
On Jan 17, 6:39*pm, "Califbill" wrote: "I am Tosk" *wrote in l-september.org... In article cee50221-872b-450d-a446-9c59166b96d2@ 29g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 16, 1:26 pm, Harryk wrote: The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You should always open the valve all the way on an LP tank. *They are designed with a "back-seat", which seals the valve stem when openend. If you partially open it, gas can leak from the stem. Wow, I did not know that.. I never seat anything unless I need to. -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Reply: TOTALLY WRONG!!!! *Crack the valve about 1/4 turn. *Same with all flammable gas cylinders. *O2, Argon etc. that are high pressure and inert have back seals. *You want to be able to turn the tank off quickly if there is a leak or fire. *Take any welding class and you will learn about gas safety. Propane is a lot safer than a lot of the flammable gas as it is a liquid under pressure and therefore is at a lot lower pressure in the tank. Acetylene is a higher pressure in the tank but is in solution in acetone (I think that is the liquid) as acetylene will self ignite explosively at a fairly low pressure. From the Weber website: Cart Based Models * Close the LP tank valve * Turn all burner control knobs to the OFF position * Open the grill lid * Turn the LP tank valve until it is completely open * Wait several seconds * Turn the front burner to the HI/Start position * Press the igniter until the burner is lit. * Turn remaining burners to High * Close the lid. * The grill should preheat to 500-550 degrees in 10-15 minutes As you point out, LP is not the same as acetylene. The Weber folks also add that when turning on the LP tank valve, one should do so very slowly so the regulator doesn't get overwhelmed. And, the 'several seconds' wait should be at least 30. That's what they told me when I couldn't get my grill to do more than just flutter for a while and then die. Their technique worked. Now, though, I just leave the LP valve open all the time. Oh, and buy something to protect the gas line from squirrels. They love that rubber. I've been using one of these for a few years now. Haven't had any problems after going through two hoses. http://www.accentshopping.com/product.asp?P_ID=149548 Takes a few minutes to install, but lasts forever. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 07:15:43 -0500, Harryk wrote:
On 1/18/11 6:58 AM, Jack. wrote: On Jan 17, 8:24 pm, wrote: On 1/17/11 7:16 PM, Jack. wrote: On Jan 17, 6:39 pm, wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in l-september.org... In articlecee50221-872b-450d-a446-9c59166b96d2@ 29g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 16, 1:26 pm, wrote: The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You should always open the valve all the way on an LP tank. They are designed with a "back-seat", which seals the valve stem when openend. If you partially open it, gas can leak from the stem. Wow, I did not know that.. I never seat anything unless I need to. -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Reply: TOTALLY WRONG!!!! Crack the valve about 1/4 turn. Same with all flammable gas cylinders. O2, Argon etc. that are high pressure and inert have back seals. You want to be able to turn the tank off quickly if there is a leak or fire. Take any welding class and you will learn about gas safety. Propane is a lot safer than a lot of the flammable gas as it is a liquid under pressure and therefore is at a lot lower pressure in the tank. Acetylene is a higher pressure in the tank but is in solution in acetone (I think that is the liquid) as acetylene will self ignite explosively at a fairly low pressure. From the Weber website: Cart Based Models * Close the LP tank valve * Turn all burner control knobs to the OFF position * Open the grill lid * Turn the LP tank valve until it is completely open * Wait several seconds * Turn the front burner to the HI/Start position * Press the igniter until the burner is lit. * Turn remaining burners to High * Close the lid. * The grill should preheat to 500-550 degrees in 10-15 minutes As you point out, LP is not the same as acetylene. Those are the instructions on how to resolve a particular problem, not the directions for S.O.P. Do what you want. I emailed Weber and will post its answer here. I assume Weber will not offer up incorrect advice on something as critical as avoiding an explosion or out of control fire. What you posted, by the way, is what I did when I first fired up the grill. I assumed one opened the tank valve all the way. It makes sense to me, since the actual flow of gas to the grill is "regulated" by the burner controls. It's regulated by the regulator, the aluminum thingee between the burner adjustment knob and the hose: http://tinyurl.com/6xqn9n9 |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
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@mypacks.net says... On 1/18/11 6:58 AM, Jack. wrote: On Jan 17, 8:24 pm, wrote: On 1/17/11 7:16 PM, Jack. wrote: On Jan 17, 6:39 pm, wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in l-september.org... In articlecee50221-872b-450d-a446-9c59166b96d2@ 29g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 16, 1:26 pm, wrote: The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You should always open the valve all the way on an LP tank. They are designed with a "back-seat", which seals the valve stem when openend. If you partially open it, gas can leak from the stem. Wow, I did not know that.. I never seat anything unless I need to. -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Reply: TOTALLY WRONG!!!! Crack the valve about 1/4 turn. Same with all flammable gas cylinders. O2, Argon etc. that are high pressure and inert have back seals. You want to be able to turn the tank off quickly if there is a leak or fire. Take any welding class and you will learn about gas safety. Propane is a lot safer than a lot of the flammable gas as it is a liquid under pressure and therefore is at a lot lower pressure in the tank. Acetylene is a higher pressure in the tank but is in solution in acetone (I think that is the liquid) as acetylene will self ignite explosively at a fairly low pressure. From the Weber website: Cart Based Models * Close the LP tank valve * Turn all burner control knobs to the OFF position * Open the grill lid * Turn the LP tank valve until it is completely open * Wait several seconds * Turn the front burner to the HI/Start position * Press the igniter until the burner is lit. * Turn remaining burners to High * Close the lid. * The grill should preheat to 500-550 degrees in 10-15 minutes As you point out, LP is not the same as acetylene. Those are the instructions on how to resolve a particular problem, not the directions for S.O.P. Do what you want. I emailed Weber and will post its answer here. I assume Weber will not offer up incorrect advice on something as critical as avoiding an explosion or out of control fire. What you posted, by the way, is what I did when I first fired up the grill. I assumed one opened the tank valve all the way. It makes sense to me, since the actual flow of gas to the grill is "regulated" by the burner controls. Trouble with that is, Weber doesn't manufacture the valves on the LPG tanks. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
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I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
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@mypacks.net says... On 1/17/11 6:39 PM, Califbill wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article cee50221-872b-450d-a446-9c59166b96d2@ 29g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 16, 1:26 pm, Harryk wrote: The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You should always open the valve all the way on an LP tank. They are designed with a "back-seat", which seals the valve stem when openend. If you partially open it, gas can leak from the stem. Wow, I did not know that.. I never seat anything unless I need to. Arrgh! I guess I'll have to check "the google," since we have conflicting information here. Maybe I'll just send an email to Weber. Again, the best to ask would be the company that actually makes the valve, and that's not Weber. |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
"John H" wrote in message ...
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 07:15:43 -0500, Harryk wrote: On 1/18/11 6:58 AM, Jack. wrote: On Jan 17, 8:24 pm, wrote: On 1/17/11 7:16 PM, Jack. wrote: On Jan 17, 6:39 pm, wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in l-september.org... In articlecee50221-872b-450d-a446-9c59166b96d2@ 29g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 16, 1:26 pm, wrote: The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You should always open the valve all the way on an LP tank. They are designed with a "back-seat", which seals the valve stem when openend. If you partially open it, gas can leak from the stem. Wow, I did not know that.. I never seat anything unless I need to. -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Reply: TOTALLY WRONG!!!! Crack the valve about 1/4 turn. Same with all flammable gas cylinders. O2, Argon etc. that are high pressure and inert have back seals. You want to be able to turn the tank off quickly if there is a leak or fire. Take any welding class and you will learn about gas safety. Propane is a lot safer than a lot of the flammable gas as it is a liquid under pressure and therefore is at a lot lower pressure in the tank. Acetylene is a higher pressure in the tank but is in solution in acetone (I think that is the liquid) as acetylene will self ignite explosively at a fairly low pressure. From the Weber website: Cart Based Models * Close the LP tank valve * Turn all burner control knobs to the OFF position * Open the grill lid * Turn the LP tank valve until it is completely open * Wait several seconds * Turn the front burner to the HI/Start position * Press the igniter until the burner is lit. * Turn remaining burners to High * Close the lid. * The grill should preheat to 500-550 degrees in 10-15 minutes As you point out, LP is not the same as acetylene. Those are the instructions on how to resolve a particular problem, not the directions for S.O.P. Do what you want. I emailed Weber and will post its answer here. I assume Weber will not offer up incorrect advice on something as critical as avoiding an explosion or out of control fire. What you posted, by the way, is what I did when I first fired up the grill. I assumed one opened the tank valve all the way. It makes sense to me, since the actual flow of gas to the grill is "regulated" by the burner controls. It's regulated by the regulator, the aluminum thingee between the burner adjustment knob and the hose: http://tinyurl.com/6xqn9n9 You're both right. -- Ziggy® |
I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
"Harryk" wrote in message m... On 1/18/11 6:58 AM, Jack. wrote: On Jan 17, 8:24 pm, wrote: On 1/17/11 7:16 PM, Jack. wrote: On Jan 17, 6:39 pm, wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in l-september.org... In articlecee50221-872b-450d-a446-9c59166b96d2@ 29g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 16, 1:26 pm, wrote: The manual is silent on how much you open the gas valve on the tank. I opened it all the way and then shut it off when the "test" was finished. You should always open the valve all the way on an LP tank. They are designed with a "back-seat", which seals the valve stem when openend. If you partially open it, gas can leak from the stem. Wow, I did not know that.. I never seat anything unless I need to. -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Reply: TOTALLY WRONG!!!! Crack the valve about 1/4 turn. Same with all flammable gas cylinders. O2, Argon etc. that are high pressure and inert have back seals. You want to be able to turn the tank off quickly if there is a leak or fire. Take any welding class and you will learn about gas safety. Propane is a lot safer than a lot of the flammable gas as it is a liquid under pressure and therefore is at a lot lower pressure in the tank. Acetylene is a higher pressure in the tank but is in solution in acetone (I think that is the liquid) as acetylene will self ignite explosively at a fairly low pressure. From the Weber website: Cart Based Models * Close the LP tank valve * Turn all burner control knobs to the OFF position * Open the grill lid * Turn the LP tank valve until it is completely open * Wait several seconds * Turn the front burner to the HI/Start position * Press the igniter until the burner is lit. * Turn remaining burners to High * Close the lid. * The grill should preheat to 500-550 degrees in 10-15 minutes As you point out, LP is not the same as acetylene. Those are the instructions on how to resolve a particular problem, not the directions for S.O.P. Do what you want. I emailed Weber and will post its answer here. I assume Weber will not offer up incorrect advice on something as critical as avoiding an explosion or out of control fire. What you posted, by the way, is what I did when I first fired up the grill. I assumed one opened the tank valve all the way. It makes sense to me, since the actual flow of gas to the grill is "regulated" by the burner controls. That's what I always do...open the tank valve all the way and close it tightly after using and things have cooled down. |
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I suspect "cabin fever" is to blame
"Califbill" wrote in message m... "YukonBound" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 16, 1:14 pm, "MMC" wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... I know the weather is bad for most of you and I know how much "cabin fever" can make me "on edge" too. So, all you flamers, GO OUTSIDE, even if it is ice fishing. Go skiing or snowshoeing, but get outside for a couple of hours. Then come back and we'll talk boats. ======= I've been working on my old Morgan 24. Got all the old rotted teak off and have sanded about 30% in preparation for painting. Bought a gallon of epoxy primer (man has that crap gotten expensive!) to go along with the 3 quart kits of Interlux Interthane plus I had on the shelf. Gelcoat is very bad shape and that's why I went with the epoxy primer. Got a couple new Beckson opening ports for the v-berth and will install after the paint dries. Decks and house will be Hatteras Off White and the hull a dark green (have picked out a paint yet for this, probably go with Brightside). Replacing the old teak with "Azek" fake lumber. About one 20th the cost of teak, easy to work with and no sanding and varnishing later. I've made the new hand rails and the look pretty good. All outside stuff and you're right, being stuck inside makes people mean as snakes. That's one reason I've been cutting firewood. running a chainsaw, weed- eater or push lawnmower is good therapy for me. Beats knocking somebody up the side of the head... Yeah but... there are half a dozen or so posters here who really need your head knocking services. It would be for their own good so it could qualify as a charitable service. Reply: Asshole! Ah, Kalif Swill awakens from another drunken stupor.............. |
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