On Jan 14, 6:50*am, I am Tosk wrote:
In article 533afa7e-a48e-40c1-9125-3e0dc0ecea06
@u3g2000vbj.googlegroups.com, says...





On Jan 14, 6:15*am, "Jack." wrote:
On Jan 13, 11:44*pm, Tim wrote:

On Jan 13, 11:27*am, Harryk wrote:

On 1/13/11 12:23 PM, Gene wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:21:48 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

The more I read, the more I'm convincing myself that i dont' need a
refrigerator on my boat.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...ad.php?t=95807

for my purposes, it would be a draw in weight, *finances and energy.
A well insulated cooler and a couple of bags of ice available at any
port or marina would be a better benefit. and I'll drop back to one 8-
D and one automotive battery and go back with a smaller and lower
powered alternator for better efficiency due to less drag and flywheel
effect. still gotta have the microwave and coffee maker, though.

I'll get it figured out

I like simple.... a good cooler and ice... if I need to, there is a
local grocery store with dry ice! (I mix the two... dry ice will
freeze EVERYTHING.)

It seems to me that Tim would be a lot better off with a simple Honda or
Yamaha unit that produces the amount of 'lectricity he needs to run the
microwave, coffee maker, hot plate, et cetera, and with a good cooler
that could keep ice icy for a few days.

Well, a small generator is a neat concept but having one inboard in my
boat *would add to the clutter not counting the fumes etc. *At least
that's what I'm envisioning.

Yeah, constant noise (but they are quiet), refilling, carrying extra
fuel, fumes, tripping over it, extension cords. *Yuck.

A couple bags of ice seem like the ticket, unless you go with a real
fridge and permanent wiring.

Oh I'm still going with the battery/isolator/invertor but it's a
tosover refrigeration.

now concerning a portable generator...

Well, i suppose i could strap it onto the swim platform.... right next
to the extra jerry cans full of gas.

Well, we talked about this stuff yesterday and I know you won't be using
a generator, but for the benefit of anyone here who might be considering
it...

One word.. HONDA! Won't ride a red bike, but I wouldn't have a different
brand Generator for camping. For Tim, a 1500 watt Honda is smaller than
his Jerrycans, and a 10 year old can carry it around. But the real key
is quiet, you could sit on a Honda and have a normal phone conversation.
I have been a little as 15 feet from one and not heard it running at a
campsite. It's not even the muffler when you get your Db down to that
level, it's the mechanical noise, and Honda has that down better than
any other I have seen to date...

Just a reminder to those of you that are cozy in your Motorhomes. You
are not generally the one that has to listen to your generator all night
long, it's the family across the way in a tent that usually has to deal
with it... Me, I just make sure my headphones are charged up and listen
to tunes all night long instead.

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!

BTW, That was a joke about thee jerry cans... I'm adding an extra fuel
cell below the deck....

"I am Tosk" wrote in message ...
In article 533afa7e-a48e-40c1-9125-3e0dc0ecea06
@u3g2000vbj.googlegroups.com, says...

On Jan 14, 6:15 am, "Jack." wrote:
On Jan 13, 11:44 pm, Tim wrote:



On Jan 13, 11:27 am, Harryk wrote:

On 1/13/11 12:23 PM, Gene wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:21:48 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

The more I read, the more I'm convincing myself that i dont' need a
refrigerator on my boat.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...ad.php?t=95807

for my purposes, it would be a draw in weight, finances and energy.
A well insulated cooler and a couple of bags of ice available at any
port or marina would be a better benefit. and I'll drop back to one 8-
D and one automotive battery and go back with a smaller and lower
powered alternator for better efficiency due to less drag and flywheel
effect. still gotta have the microwave and coffee maker, though.

I'll get it figured out

I like simple.... a good cooler and ice... if I need to, there is a
local grocery store with dry ice! (I mix the two... dry ice will
freeze EVERYTHING.)

It seems to me that Tim would be a lot better off with a simple Honda or
Yamaha unit that produces the amount of 'lectricity he needs to run the
microwave, coffee maker, hot plate, et cetera, and with a good cooler
that could keep ice icy for a few days.

Well, a small generator is a neat concept but having one inboard in my
boat would add to the clutter not counting the fumes etc. At least
that's what I'm envisioning.

Yeah, constant noise (but they are quiet), refilling, carrying extra
fuel, fumes, tripping over it, extension cords. Yuck.

A couple bags of ice seem like the ticket, unless you go with a real
fridge and permanent wiring.

Oh I'm still going with the battery/isolator/invertor but it's a
tosover refrigeration.

now concerning a portable generator...

Well, i suppose i could strap it onto the swim platform.... right next
to the extra jerry cans full of gas.

Well, we talked about this stuff yesterday and I know you won't be using
a generator, but for the benefit of anyone here who might be considering
it...

One word.. HONDA! Won't ride a red bike, but I wouldn't have a different
brand Generator for camping. For Tim, a 1500 watt Honda is smaller than
his Jerrycans, and a 10 year old can carry it around. But the real key
is quiet, you could sit on a Honda and have a normal phone conversation.
I have been a little as 15 feet from one and not heard it running at a
campsite. It's not even the muffler when you get your Db down to that
level, it's the mechanical noise, and Honda has that down better than
any other I have seen to date...

Just a reminder to those of you that are cozy in your Motorhomes. You
are not generally the one that has to listen to your generator all night
long, it's the family across the way in a tent that usually has to deal
with it... Me, I just make sure my headphones are charged up and listen
to tunes all night long instead.

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!


There is nothing like a diesel generator to lull you to sleep after a hard day's play.

--
Ziggy®

On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:44:43 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Well, a small generator is a neat concept but having one inboard in my
boat would add to the clutter not counting the fumes etc. At least
that's what I'm envisioning.

With a big alternator, decent battery and an inverter, you won't need
a generator

On Jan 14, 9:27*am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:44:43 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Well, a small generator is a neat concept but having one inboard in my
boat *would add to the clutter not counting the fumes etc. *At least
that's what I'm envisioning.

With a big alternator, decent battery and an inverter, you won't need
a generator

my thoughts exactly.

however, I'm actually thinking of downsizing my power output to about
stock for my application. fixing up something capable of running a
consistent 60-70 amps with a heavy winding and dual rectifiers instead
of a 180 amp pounder. besides, my inverter wouldnt' be under a full
load anyhow. even if running a small microwave or coffee make rand a
fridge, it would only be monetarily. Of course when the load is on it
IS on but an 8-D is a lake full of amps, and also being new it should
recover quickly

My philosophy is that the lower powered unit can maintain a menial
rate of charge to fill one or even 2 8-D house bank batteries with a
minimal load on the belt or the engine, (BTW, it's a 305 chevy). only
thing is that it would take a bit longer to build the bank back to
full charge.

Now, running a 180 would probably be fine, except for my application;
on initial start up the unit would peak out about 215-235 amps which
at least momentarily would get the belt hot and also cause higher fuel
consumption due to accessive drag.

In your situation Wayne, yes, i'd agree that the higher amped unit,
the better because you have too many constants pulling power all the
time and at throttle, that Detroit probably doesn't really know it's
there anyhow.

I dunno. I'm still planning.

On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:53:38 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

In your situation Wayne, yes, i'd agree that the higher amped unit,
the better because you have too many constants pulling power all the
time and at throttle, that Detroit probably doesn't really know it's
there anyhow.

Believe it or not you can actually hear the 6-71 grunt for a split
second when I switch the bank of golf cart batteries online, no belt
slip however. We've put about 30 hours on the new Leece-Neville over
the last week and no issues so far.

If you get tired of horsing around those 8D batts you might consider a
pair or Trojan T-145s as a replacement. They also have better deep
cycle characteristics than most 8Ds.

On Jan 14, 9:50*am, I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...



On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:44:43 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Well, a small generator is a neat concept but having one inboard in my
boat *would add to the clutter not counting the fumes etc. *At least
that's what I'm envisioning.

With a big alternator, decent battery and an inverter, you won't need
a generator

I can see you sitting there puffing out your chest as you say that
Knowing Tim sent you a frekin' monster! * "Yep, this is a ..."

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!

And actually Scott, it failed sad to say. i believe ti would have
worked fine but even though it is a premium rectifier (more than a
proverbial 'buck forty-nine job') it crapped out.. Windings and rotor
still looked brand new, but the rectifier melted. and that IS rare for
that model unit. But crap does happen. I wish it had't have, though.

But Wayne has a big boy now...

On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:57:34 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:21:48 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

The more I read, the more I'm convincing myself that i dont' need a
refrigerator on my boat.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...ad.php?t=95807

for my purposes, it would be a draw in weight, finances and energy.
A well insulated cooler and a couple of bags of ice available at any
port or marina would be a better benefit. and I'll drop back to one 8-
D and one automotive battery and go back with a smaller and lower
powered alternator for better efficiency due to less drag and flywheel
effect. still gotta have the microwave and coffee maker, though.

I'll get it figured out

I like simple.... a good cooler and ice... if I need to, there is a
local grocery store with dry ice! (I mix the two... dry ice will
freeze EVERYTHING.)

There used to be a place where you could buy dry ice cubes, they were
very convenient...

Our local little Safeway sells dry ice now. Never bought any, but I see the
sign.