On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:40:10 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:17:09 -0800, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:07:48 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:22:26 -0800, wrote:

You are again just finding cases where people lost their desks and it
goes into great detail explaining how they got relocated.

You claimed that federal workers don't get fired. I provided numerous
examples. Sorry if you can't handle it.

Go back and read my original note again. I said they can't get fired
as long as they show up for work and they don't get caught stealing.
You gave us one example of the PATA guys being fired for not showing
up at work.
It is a violation of the law that allows a federal union for the
members to strike. That is black letter law.
They should have all been fired. There may even be criminal penalties
attached.


The rest of your links only talked about the extraordinary lengths
they go to relocate people when their agency closes.

You also linked articles about the shutdowns and they all ended up
with everyone keeping their jobs.

I suppose you could say the Walkers got fired but they stole national
secrets.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...mcain-federal/

Exactly, you posted an article that said what I have been saying. A
few people got fired for coming in drunk and punching out the boss.
That is not a layoff, that is a criminal act.

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=35&sid=1995749

Losing their security clearance

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...-blowers_x.htm

Stealing and disclosing confidential information.

You seem to think that it's an uncommon private business practice to
not attempt to place workers in other jobs. Big companies do this all
the time. While it's more difficult to fire Fed employees, it's not
impossible. Please show us some numbers that support all the
"incompetence" of Fed workers. Seems to me they mostly do a good job.

Most federal employees do try to do a good job, the point is it is
hard to get rid of the ones who don't. The first article in this post
demonstrates that. Getting fired for being drunk and punching the boss
is not the same as just being lazy and not working. I agree that is a
fairly small percentage but seeing that lowers the morale of the rest
of the work force and lowers overall productivity.

Yes, it's hard. No, it's not impossible to fire a Fed employee.

It's just as high of a percentage in the corporate world. In fact, it
might even be worse there. Laziness typically lowers morale and
productivity, but that's not unique to Fed workers. Large companies
have the same problem.

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:40:10 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:17:09 -0800, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:07:48 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:22:26 -0800, wrote:

You are again just finding cases where people lost their desks and it
goes into great detail explaining how they got relocated.

You claimed that federal workers don't get fired. I provided numerous
examples. Sorry if you can't handle it.

Go back and read my original note again. I said they can't get fired
as long as they show up for work and they don't get caught stealing.
You gave us one example of the PATA guys being fired for not showing
up at work.
It is a violation of the law that allows a federal union for the
members to strike. That is black letter law.
They should have all been fired. There may even be criminal penalties
attached.


The rest of your links only talked about the extraordinary lengths
they go to relocate people when their agency closes.

You also linked articles about the shutdowns and they all ended up
with everyone keeping their jobs.

I suppose you could say the Walkers got fired but they stole national
secrets.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...mcain-federal/

Exactly, you posted an article that said what I have been saying. A
few people got fired for coming in drunk and punching out the boss.
That is not a layoff, that is a criminal act.

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=35&sid=1995749

Losing their security clearance

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...-blowers_x.htm

Stealing and disclosing confidential information.

You seem to think that it's an uncommon private business practice to
not attempt to place workers in other jobs. Big companies do this all
the time. While it's more difficult to fire Fed employees, it's not
impossible. Please show us some numbers that support all the
"incompetence" of Fed workers. Seems to me they mostly do a good job.

Most federal employees do try to do a good job, the point is it is
hard to get rid of the ones who don't. The first article in this post
demonstrates that. Getting fired for being drunk and punching the boss
is not the same as just being lazy and not working. I agree that is a
fairly small percentage but seeing that lowers the morale of the rest
of the work force and lowers overall productivity.

Yes, it's hard. No, it's not impossible to fire a Fed employee.

It's just as high of a percentage in the corporate world. In fact, it
might even be worse there. Laziness typically lowers morale and
productivity, but that's not unique to Fed workers. Large companies
have the same problem.

Damn straight! Just go ask Scotties former employers.

On 1/8/11 4:04 PM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:40:10 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:17:09 -0800, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:07:48 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:22:26 -0800, wrote:

You are again just finding cases where people lost their desks
and it
goes into great detail explaining how they got relocated.

You claimed that federal workers don't get fired. I provided numerous
examples. Sorry if you can't handle it.

Go back and read my original note again. I said they can't get fired
as long as they show up for work and they don't get caught stealing.
You gave us one example of the PATA guys being fired for not showing
up at work.
It is a violation of the law that allows a federal union for the
members to strike. That is black letter law.
They should have all been fired. There may even be criminal penalties
attached.


The rest of your links only talked about the extraordinary lengths
they go to relocate people when their agency closes.

You also linked articles about the shutdowns and they all ended up
with everyone keeping their jobs.

I suppose you could say the Walkers got fired but they stole national
secrets.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...mcain-federal/


Exactly, you posted an article that said what I have been saying. A
few people got fired for coming in drunk and punching out the boss.
That is not a layoff, that is a criminal act.

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=35&sid=1995749

Losing their security clearance

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...-blowers_x.htm


Stealing and disclosing confidential information.

You seem to think that it's an uncommon private business practice to
not attempt to place workers in other jobs. Big companies do this all
the time. While it's more difficult to fire Fed employees, it's not
impossible. Please show us some numbers that support all the
"incompetence" of Fed workers. Seems to me they mostly do a good job.

Most federal employees do try to do a good job, the point is it is
hard to get rid of the ones who don't. The first article in this post
demonstrates that. Getting fired for being drunk and punching the boss
is not the same as just being lazy and not working. I agree that is a
fairly small percentage but seeing that lowers the morale of the rest
of the work force and lowers overall productivity.

Yes, it's hard. No, it's not impossible to fire a Fed employee.

It's just as high of a percentage in the corporate world. In fact, it
might even be worse there. Laziness typically lowers morale and
productivity, but that's not unique to Fed workers. Large companies
have the same problem.

Damn straight! Just go ask Scotties former employers.


That must be some list.

Harryk wrote:
On 1/8/11 4:04 PM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:40:10 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:17:09 -0800, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:07:48 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:22:26 -0800, wrote:

You are again just finding cases where people lost their desks
and it
goes into great detail explaining how they got relocated.

You claimed that federal workers don't get fired. I provided
numerous
examples. Sorry if you can't handle it.

Go back and read my original note again. I said they can't get fired
as long as they show up for work and they don't get caught stealing.
You gave us one example of the PATA guys being fired for not showing
up at work.
It is a violation of the law that allows a federal union for the
members to strike. That is black letter law.
They should have all been fired. There may even be criminal
penalties
attached.


The rest of your links only talked about the extraordinary lengths
they go to relocate people when their agency closes.

You also linked articles about the shutdowns and they all ended up
with everyone keeping their jobs.

I suppose you could say the Walkers got fired but they stole
national
secrets.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...mcain-federal/



Exactly, you posted an article that said what I have been saying. A
few people got fired for coming in drunk and punching out the boss.
That is not a layoff, that is a criminal act.

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=35&sid=1995749

Losing their security clearance

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...-blowers_x.htm



Stealing and disclosing confidential information.

You seem to think that it's an uncommon private business practice to
not attempt to place workers in other jobs. Big companies do this all
the time. While it's more difficult to fire Fed employees, it's not
impossible. Please show us some numbers that support all the
"incompetence" of Fed workers. Seems to me they mostly do a good job.

Most federal employees do try to do a good job, the point is it is
hard to get rid of the ones who don't. The first article in this post
demonstrates that. Getting fired for being drunk and punching the boss
is not the same as just being lazy and not working. I agree that is a
fairly small percentage but seeing that lowers the morale of the rest
of the work force and lowers overall productivity.

Yes, it's hard. No, it's not impossible to fire a Fed employee.

It's just as high of a percentage in the corporate world. In fact, it
might even be worse there. Laziness typically lowers morale and
productivity, but that's not unique to Fed workers. Large companies
have the same problem.

Damn straight! Just go ask Scotties former employers.


That must be some list.
Must be. WAFA...

YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:40:10 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:17:09 -0800, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:07:48 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:22:26 -0800, wrote:

You are again just finding cases where people lost their desks
and it
goes into great detail explaining how they got relocated.

You claimed that federal workers don't get fired. I provided
numerous
examples. Sorry if you can't handle it.

Go back and read my original note again. I said they can't get fired
as long as they show up for work and they don't get caught stealing.
You gave us one example of the PATA guys being fired for not showing
up at work.
It is a violation of the law that allows a federal union for the
members to strike. That is black letter law.
They should have all been fired. There may even be criminal penalties
attached.


The rest of your links only talked about the extraordinary lengths
they go to relocate people when their agency closes.

You also linked articles about the shutdowns and they all ended up
with everyone keeping their jobs.

I suppose you could say the Walkers got fired but they stole national
secrets.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...mcain-federal/


Exactly, you posted an article that said what I have been saying. A
few people got fired for coming in drunk and punching out the boss.
That is not a layoff, that is a criminal act.

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=35&sid=1995749

Losing their security clearance

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...-blowers_x.htm


Stealing and disclosing confidential information.

You seem to think that it's an uncommon private business practice to
not attempt to place workers in other jobs. Big companies do this all
the time. While it's more difficult to fire Fed employees, it's not
impossible. Please show us some numbers that support all the
"incompetence" of Fed workers. Seems to me they mostly do a good job.

Most federal employees do try to do a good job, the point is it is
hard to get rid of the ones who don't. The first article in this post
demonstrates that. Getting fired for being drunk and punching the boss
is not the same as just being lazy and not working. I agree that is a
fairly small percentage but seeing that lowers the morale of the rest
of the work force and lowers overall productivity.

Yes, it's hard. No, it's not impossible to fire a Fed employee.

It's just as high of a percentage in the corporate world. In fact, it
might even be worse there. Laziness typically lowers morale and
productivity, but that's not unique to Fed workers. Large companies
have the same problem.

Damn straight! Just go ask Scotties former employers.
And you know that how?

In article ,
says...

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:40:10 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:17:09 -0800, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:07:48 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:22:26 -0800, wrote:

You are again just finding cases where people lost their desks and it
goes into great detail explaining how they got relocated.

You claimed that federal workers don't get fired. I provided numerous
examples. Sorry if you can't handle it.

Go back and read my original note again. I said they can't get fired
as long as they show up for work and they don't get caught stealing.
You gave us one example of the PATA guys being fired for not showing
up at work.
It is a violation of the law that allows a federal union for the
members to strike. That is black letter law.
They should have all been fired. There may even be criminal penalties
attached.


The rest of your links only talked about the extraordinary lengths
they go to relocate people when their agency closes.

You also linked articles about the shutdowns and they all ended up
with everyone keeping their jobs.

I suppose you could say the Walkers got fired but they stole national
secrets.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...mcain-federal/

Exactly, you posted an article that said what I have been saying. A
few people got fired for coming in drunk and punching out the boss.
That is not a layoff, that is a criminal act.

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=35&sid=1995749

Losing their security clearance

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...-blowers_x.htm

Stealing and disclosing confidential information.

You seem to think that it's an uncommon private business practice to
not attempt to place workers in other jobs. Big companies do this all
the time. While it's more difficult to fire Fed employees, it's not
impossible. Please show us some numbers that support all the
"incompetence" of Fed workers. Seems to me they mostly do a good job.

Most federal employees do try to do a good job, the point is it is
hard to get rid of the ones who don't. The first article in this post
demonstrates that. Getting fired for being drunk and punching the boss
is not the same as just being lazy and not working. I agree that is a
fairly small percentage but seeing that lowers the morale of the rest
of the work force and lowers overall productivity.

Yes, it's hard. No, it's not impossible to fire a Fed employee.

It's just as high of a percentage in the corporate world. In fact, it
might even be worse there. Laziness typically lowers morale and
productivity, but that's not unique to Fed workers. Large companies
have the same problem.

Damn straight! Just go ask Scotties former employers.

Another post from you with nothing in it but stupidity.

On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 10:30:06 -0500, Spoofer wrote:

In article ,
says...

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:40:10 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:17:09 -0800, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:07:48 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:22:26 -0800, wrote:

You are again just finding cases where people lost their desks and it
goes into great detail explaining how they got relocated.

You claimed that federal workers don't get fired. I provided numerous
examples. Sorry if you can't handle it.

Go back and read my original note again. I said they can't get fired
as long as they show up for work and they don't get caught stealing.
You gave us one example of the PATA guys being fired for not showing
up at work.
It is a violation of the law that allows a federal union for the
members to strike. That is black letter law.
They should have all been fired. There may even be criminal penalties
attached.


The rest of your links only talked about the extraordinary lengths
they go to relocate people when their agency closes.

You also linked articles about the shutdowns and they all ended up
with everyone keeping their jobs.

I suppose you could say the Walkers got fired but they stole national
secrets.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...mcain-federal/

Exactly, you posted an article that said what I have been saying. A
few people got fired for coming in drunk and punching out the boss.
That is not a layoff, that is a criminal act.

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=35&sid=1995749

Losing their security clearance

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...-blowers_x.htm

Stealing and disclosing confidential information.

You seem to think that it's an uncommon private business practice to
not attempt to place workers in other jobs. Big companies do this all
the time. While it's more difficult to fire Fed employees, it's not
impossible. Please show us some numbers that support all the
"incompetence" of Fed workers. Seems to me they mostly do a good job.

Most federal employees do try to do a good job, the point is it is
hard to get rid of the ones who don't. The first article in this post
demonstrates that. Getting fired for being drunk and punching the boss
is not the same as just being lazy and not working. I agree that is a
fairly small percentage but seeing that lowers the morale of the rest
of the work force and lowers overall productivity.

Yes, it's hard. No, it's not impossible to fire a Fed employee.

It's just as high of a percentage in the corporate world. In fact, it
might even be worse there. Laziness typically lowers morale and
productivity, but that's not unique to Fed workers. Large companies
have the same problem.

Damn straight! Just go ask Scotties former employers.

Another post from you with nothing in it but stupidity.

I suppose he meant to say 'Scotty's' and will probably say that 'Scotties' was
just a 'typo'.

Right.

He's filterable, BTW.

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 10:30:06 -0500, Spoofer wrote:

In article ,
says...

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:40:10 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:17:09 -0800, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:07:48 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:22:26 -0800, wrote:

You are again just finding cases where people lost their desks and
it
goes into great detail explaining how they got relocated.

You claimed that federal workers don't get fired. I provided
numerous
examples. Sorry if you can't handle it.

Go back and read my original note again. I said they can't get fired
as long as they show up for work and they don't get caught stealing.
You gave us one example of the PATA guys being fired for not showing
up at work.
It is a violation of the law that allows a federal union for the
members to strike. That is black letter law.
They should have all been fired. There may even be criminal
penalties
attached.


The rest of your links only talked about the extraordinary lengths
they go to relocate people when their agency closes.

You also linked articles about the shutdowns and they all ended up
with everyone keeping their jobs.

I suppose you could say the Walkers got fired but they stole
national
secrets.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...mcain-federal/

Exactly, you posted an article that said what I have been saying. A
few people got fired for coming in drunk and punching out the boss.
That is not a layoff, that is a criminal act.

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=35&sid=1995749

Losing their security clearance

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...-blowers_x.htm

Stealing and disclosing confidential information.

You seem to think that it's an uncommon private business practice to
not attempt to place workers in other jobs. Big companies do this all
the time. While it's more difficult to fire Fed employees, it's not
impossible. Please show us some numbers that support all the
"incompetence" of Fed workers. Seems to me they mostly do a good job.

Most federal employees do try to do a good job, the point is it is
hard to get rid of the ones who don't. The first article in this post
demonstrates that. Getting fired for being drunk and punching the boss
is not the same as just being lazy and not working. I agree that is a
fairly small percentage but seeing that lowers the morale of the rest
of the work force and lowers overall productivity.

Yes, it's hard. No, it's not impossible to fire a Fed employee.

It's just as high of a percentage in the corporate world. In fact, it
might even be worse there. Laziness typically lowers morale and
productivity, but that's not unique to Fed workers. Large companies
have the same problem.

Damn straight! Just go ask Scotties former employers.

Another post from you with nothing in it but stupidity.

I suppose he meant to say 'Scotty's' and will probably say that 'Scotties'
was
just a 'typo'.

Right.

He's filterable, BTW.

Hey... did you read that thread where the poster claimed the only people
interested in his sporty Chrysler/Dodge were 13 year old boys.
Same true for a yellow Mustang?

YukonBound wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 10:30:06 -0500, Spoofer wrote:

In article ,
says...

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:40:10 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:17:09 -0800, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:07:48 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:22:26 -0800, wrote:

You are again just finding cases where people lost their
desks and it
goes into great detail explaining how they got relocated.

You claimed that federal workers don't get fired. I provided
numerous
examples. Sorry if you can't handle it.

Go back and read my original note again. I said they can't get
fired
as long as they show up for work and they don't get caught
stealing.
You gave us one example of the PATA guys being fired for not
showing
up at work.
It is a violation of the law that allows a federal union for the
members to strike. That is black letter law.
They should have all been fired. There may even be criminal
penalties
attached.


The rest of your links only talked about the extraordinary lengths
they go to relocate people when their agency closes.

You also linked articles about the shutdowns and they all ended up
with everyone keeping their jobs.

I suppose you could say the Walkers got fired but they stole
national
secrets.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...mcain-federal/


Exactly, you posted an article that said what I have been saying. A
few people got fired for coming in drunk and punching out the boss.
That is not a layoff, that is a criminal act.

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=35&sid=1995749

Losing their security clearance

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...-blowers_x.htm


Stealing and disclosing confidential information.

You seem to think that it's an uncommon private business
practice to
not attempt to place workers in other jobs. Big companies do
this all
the time. While it's more difficult to fire Fed employees, it's not
impossible. Please show us some numbers that support all the
"incompetence" of Fed workers. Seems to me they mostly do a good
job.

Most federal employees do try to do a good job, the point is it is
hard to get rid of the ones who don't. The first article in this
post
demonstrates that. Getting fired for being drunk and punching the
boss
is not the same as just being lazy and not working. I agree that
is a
fairly small percentage but seeing that lowers the morale of the
rest
of the work force and lowers overall productivity.

Yes, it's hard. No, it's not impossible to fire a Fed employee.

It's just as high of a percentage in the corporate world. In
fact, it
might even be worse there. Laziness typically lowers morale and
productivity, but that's not unique to Fed workers. Large companies
have the same problem.

Damn straight! Just go ask Scotties former employers.

Another post from you with nothing in it but stupidity.

I suppose he meant to say 'Scotty's' and will probably say that
'Scotties' was
just a 'typo'.

Right.

He's filterable, BTW.

Hey... did you read that thread where the poster claimed the only
people interested in his sporty Chrysler/Dodge were 13 year old boys.
Same true for a yellow Mustang?
Your jealousy is painfully obvious, dummy.