On 1/8/11 4:04 PM, YukonBound wrote:


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On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:40:10 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:17:09 -0800, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:07:48 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:22:26 -0800, wrote:

You are again just finding cases where people lost their desks
and it
goes into great detail explaining how they got relocated.

You claimed that federal workers don't get fired. I provided numerous
examples. Sorry if you can't handle it.

Go back and read my original note again. I said they can't get fired
as long as they show up for work and they don't get caught stealing.
You gave us one example of the PATA guys being fired for not showing
up at work.
It is a violation of the law that allows a federal union for the
members to strike. That is black letter law.
They should have all been fired. There may even be criminal penalties
attached.


The rest of your links only talked about the extraordinary lengths
they go to relocate people when their agency closes.

You also linked articles about the shutdowns and they all ended up
with everyone keeping their jobs.

I suppose you could say the Walkers got fired but they stole national
secrets.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...mcain-federal/


Exactly, you posted an article that said what I have been saying. A
few people got fired for coming in drunk and punching out the boss.
That is not a layoff, that is a criminal act.

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=35&sid=1995749

Losing their security clearance

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...-blowers_x.htm


Stealing and disclosing confidential information.

You seem to think that it's an uncommon private business practice to
not attempt to place workers in other jobs. Big companies do this all
the time. While it's more difficult to fire Fed employees, it's not
impossible. Please show us some numbers that support all the
"incompetence" of Fed workers. Seems to me they mostly do a good job.

Most federal employees do try to do a good job, the point is it is
hard to get rid of the ones who don't. The first article in this post
demonstrates that. Getting fired for being drunk and punching the boss
is not the same as just being lazy and not working. I agree that is a
fairly small percentage but seeing that lowers the morale of the rest
of the work force and lowers overall productivity.

Yes, it's hard. No, it's not impossible to fire a Fed employee.

It's just as high of a percentage in the corporate world. In fact, it
might even be worse there. Laziness typically lowers morale and
productivity, but that's not unique to Fed workers. Large companies
have the same problem.

Damn straight! Just go ask Scotties former employers.


That must be some list.