In article ,
says...

On 1/5/11 7:33 AM, BAR wrote:


Some people believe everything in print. In my tenure at the USDA I saw
many people get promoted out. The were promoted to a grade that was
higher than their position which required them to get a position in
another agency at their new grade. This was the easiest and fastest way
to get them to out.

Also, incompetence was abundant and all you could do was send people to
classes to try and make them un-incompetent. This helped but it rarely
resolved the problem.

DePlume can believe that AlGore reduced the government rolls by 350,000
but what she isn't saying is that Bill Clinton increased them by 500,000
at the same time.


What percentage of your employer's business is done with federal, state,
and local governmental agencies, or other corporations whose main
business is with government or governmental agencies?

I don't know, why don't you ask my company.

On 1/5/11 3:47 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On 1/5/11 7:33 AM, BAR wrote:


Some people believe everything in print. In my tenure at the USDA I saw
many people get promoted out. The were promoted to a grade that was
higher than their position which required them to get a position in
another agency at their new grade. This was the easiest and fastest way
to get them to out.

Also, incompetence was abundant and all you could do was send people to
classes to try and make them un-incompetent. This helped but it rarely
resolved the problem.

DePlume can believe that AlGore reduced the government rolls by 350,000
but what she isn't saying is that Bill Clinton increased them by 500,000
at the same time.


What percentage of your employer's business is done with federal, state,
and local governmental agencies, or other corporations whose main
business is with government or governmental agencies?

I don't know, why don't you ask my company.



Sure...send me the name and phone number of the VP of Governmental
Relations.

My guess is the percentage is high, and that it is humorous when someone
working for a company sucking on as many governmental teats as possible
whines about the supplier of the milk.

In article ,
says...

"John H" wrote in message ...
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:31:25 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:20:37 -0500, Harryk
wrote:

It's hard, but not impossible, to believe you don't see the
"non-confrontational" aspects of your union-bashing post.

It's not necessarily bashing when the truth is spoken. On the other
hand it is certainly off topic, and to a certain extent, inflammatory.

Given all that, and in the interest of group harmony, discussions of
unions and government employees don't really belong here. We all know
how it ends up and there is very little new that hasn't already been
said in the past.

I'd rather talk about boats and boating - went for a nice little sail
yesterday on the Caloosahatchie River. Boat was a 24 ft Sonar class
which sails very well with 2 to 6 people aboard but 3 or 4 is close to
ideal. Weather was very nice - mid 70s with light to moderate winds.

http://www.getawaysailing.com/images2/sonar.jpg

http://www.nyss.com/NYSS/Jpeg/nyss-08.jpg

http://www.nyss.com/NYSS/Jpeg/nyss-09.jpg

On the other, other hand, one shouldn't have to fear retribution from Harry for
posting a true life experience.

I'm surprised you said nothing about this post:

"Wow... you're just a downer for everything. I guess creating 8000 jobs
and pumping $8B into the economy is the wrong thing. But, of course,
San Francisco is Pelosi country, so it must be a terrible idea."

...talk about inflammatory and political!!


Krause was banished from Maryland Shooters list for similar shenanigans.
http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=26680&page=4
It seems like he acts like an asshole wherever he posts.
Wouldn't it be a good idea if we just ignored him?

Harry ingratiates himself with the locals everywhere he goes. It's a
wonder he has ended up in a dumpster with a messed up shoe.

In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 1/5/11 3:47 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On 1/5/11 7:33 AM, BAR wrote:


Some people believe everything in print. In my tenure at the USDA I saw
many people get promoted out. The were promoted to a grade that was
higher than their position which required them to get a position in
another agency at their new grade. This was the easiest and fastest way
to get them to out.

Also, incompetence was abundant and all you could do was send people to
classes to try and make them un-incompetent. This helped but it rarely
resolved the problem.

DePlume can believe that AlGore reduced the government rolls by 350,000
but what she isn't saying is that Bill Clinton increased them by 500,000
at the same time.


What percentage of your employer's business is done with federal, state,
and local governmental agencies, or other corporations whose main
business is with government or governmental agencies?

I don't know, why don't you ask my company.



Sure...send me the name and phone number of the VP of Governmental
Relations.

My guess is the percentage is high, and that it is humorous when someone
working for a company sucking on as many governmental teats as possible
whines about the supplier of the milk.

You are a ****ing genius figure it out.

On 1/5/11 4:01 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...



Harry ingratiates himself with the locals everywhere he goes. It's a
wonder he has ended up in a dumpster with a messed up shoe.



There you go, Bert, enabling the Ziggy. I like your sentence
construction, too. Whatever it means.

On 1/5/11 4:03 PM, BAR wrote:
In articlerbmdnaW0RfaSR7nQnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 1/5/11 3:47 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On 1/5/11 7:33 AM, BAR wrote:


Some people believe everything in print. In my tenure at the USDA I saw
many people get promoted out. The were promoted to a grade that was
higher than their position which required them to get a position in
another agency at their new grade. This was the easiest and fastest way
to get them to out.

Also, incompetence was abundant and all you could do was send people to
classes to try and make them un-incompetent. This helped but it rarely
resolved the problem.

DePlume can believe that AlGore reduced the government rolls by 350,000
but what she isn't saying is that Bill Clinton increased them by 500,000
at the same time.


What percentage of your employer's business is done with federal, state,
and local governmental agencies, or other corporations whose main
business is with government or governmental agencies?

I don't know, why don't you ask my company.



Sure...send me the name and phone number of the VP of Governmental
Relations.

My guess is the percentage is high, and that it is humorous when someone
working for a company sucking on as many governmental teats as possible
whines about the supplier of the milk.

You are a ****ing genius figure it out.




A ****ing genius? Well, I'm competent in the bedroom, but no one has
called me that. Thanks.

On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:41:29 -0500, Ziggy®
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message ...
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:31:25 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:20:37 -0500, Harryk
wrote:

It's hard, but not impossible, to believe you don't see the
"non-confrontational" aspects of your union-bashing post.

It's not necessarily bashing when the truth is spoken. On the other
hand it is certainly off topic, and to a certain extent, inflammatory.

Given all that, and in the interest of group harmony, discussions of
unions and government employees don't really belong here. We all know
how it ends up and there is very little new that hasn't already been
said in the past.

I'd rather talk about boats and boating - went for a nice little sail
yesterday on the Caloosahatchie River. Boat was a 24 ft Sonar class
which sails very well with 2 to 6 people aboard but 3 or 4 is close to
ideal. Weather was very nice - mid 70s with light to moderate winds.

http://www.getawaysailing.com/images2/sonar.jpg

http://www.nyss.com/NYSS/Jpeg/nyss-08.jpg

http://www.nyss.com/NYSS/Jpeg/nyss-09.jpg

On the other, other hand, one shouldn't have to fear retribution from Harry for
posting a true life experience.

I'm surprised you said nothing about this post:

"Wow... you're just a downer for everything. I guess creating 8000 jobs
and pumping $8B into the economy is the wrong thing. But, of course,
San Francisco is Pelosi country, so it must be a terrible idea."

...talk about inflammatory and political!!


Krause was banished from Maryland Shooters list for similar shenanigans.
http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=26680&page=4
It seems like he acts like an asshole wherever he posts.
Wouldn't it be a good idea if we just ignored him?

Splitter's a pretty bright guy.

In article ,
says...

"John H" wrote in message ...
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:31:25 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:20:37 -0500, Harryk
wrote:

It's hard, but not impossible, to believe you don't see the
"non-confrontational" aspects of your union-bashing post.

It's not necessarily bashing when the truth is spoken. On the other
hand it is certainly off topic, and to a certain extent, inflammatory.

Given all that, and in the interest of group harmony, discussions of
unions and government employees don't really belong here. We all know
how it ends up and there is very little new that hasn't already been
said in the past.

I'd rather talk about boats and boating - went for a nice little sail
yesterday on the Caloosahatchie River. Boat was a 24 ft Sonar class
which sails very well with 2 to 6 people aboard but 3 or 4 is close to
ideal. Weather was very nice - mid 70s with light to moderate winds.

http://www.getawaysailing.com/images2/sonar.jpg

http://www.nyss.com/NYSS/Jpeg/nyss-08.jpg

http://www.nyss.com/NYSS/Jpeg/nyss-09.jpg

On the other, other hand, one shouldn't have to fear retribution from Harry for
posting a true life experience.

I'm surprised you said nothing about this post:

"Wow... you're just a downer for everything. I guess creating 8000 jobs
and pumping $8B into the economy is the wrong thing. But, of course,
San Francisco is Pelosi country, so it must be a terrible idea."

...talk about inflammatory and political!!


Krause was banished from Maryland Shooters list for similar shenanigans.
http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=26680&page=4
It seems like he acts like an asshole wherever he posts.
Wouldn't it be a good idea if we just ignored him?

Hey, that's not me. For one thing, you'll notice that the person over on
that gun board said he didn't like name calling. Everyone knows here
that every time someone finds a lie of mine, I instantly resort to name
calling.

On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:18:21 -0500, John H
wrote:

On the other, other hand, one shouldn't have to fear retribution from Harry for
posting a true life experience.

I'm surprised you said nothing about this post:

"Wow... you're just a downer for everything. I guess creating 8000 jobs
and pumping $8B into the economy is the wrong thing. But, of course,
San Francisco is Pelosi country, so it must be a terrible idea."

...talk about inflammatory and political!!

There's an important difference: It's called maturity, good
judgement, and emotional stability.

Please don't prove me wrong.

On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:18:25 -0500, Harryk
wrote:

On 1/5/11 2:07 PM, I am Tosk wrote:

Your post is irrelevant to the conversation. He never said he "wanted"
anything at all, he was arguing with you a definition, period. Your
tactics are strangely familiar...


Doing a bit of instigating on the side?

I mostly ignore him. I means what's the point...